Re: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Alayne, Yes, you are on the list of registered voters who supplied their legal name and email address before the deadline. We are taking on trust that all legal names supplied correspond to the users of the email accounts. Note the following rule: "85. Error or Omission in Giving Notice. No error or omission in giving notice of any Annual or General meeting or any adjourned meeting of the members shall invalidate any resolution passed or any proceedings taken at that meeting" My working assumption - without your legal talent, so please advise if I have misinterpreted this - is that this means we can proceed with the meeting and vote on Thursday 6th April 2023 as planned. I am also interested in whether you interpret "shall" to be epistemic in the first person, and deontic in the second and third person, and how that affects your interpretation of the by-laws? The topic of dissolution has been aired at the past few club meetings, but I would be willing to propose to the board that we push out the deadline for the vote, if this would help resolve your problems. Thank you for your invaluable contributions. On 02/04/2023 17:41, ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca wrote: If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Alayne, I don't believe we've met - nice to meet you! Have you attended an OCLUG meeting in the past year? Although you make some valid points, the fact that I have no idea who you are (probably an issue on my end as I'm a new member), and the fact you started off your emails with: "If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation." Makes me really question whether I want to side with you on anything. This is just me being completely honest. Personally, I think everyone involved with the administration of the OCLUG, and those who are actively attending meetings, are doing the best they can with the knowledge and resources that they have. They've been really helpful and supportive. Yep, you should hear a big kissing sound, and that's deserved. For the record, I am on the side of letting the OCLUG pass away gracefully, and using the AED on OCUUG. What do you think about that? Sincerely, Katie From: ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca Sent: 02 April 2023 17:41 To: linux@linux-ottawa.org Subject: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: > The motion is as follows: > > We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation > number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer > of > residual money to the National Capital Freenet. > > Procedure: > > All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name > before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email > from > secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting > will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th > meeting, or wait > for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
