Re: Keeping the lights on (was Re: [linux] Result of the OCLUG motion to dissolve) (fwd)

2023-04-10 Thread Alex Pilon
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> > their low-end offering has more disk space than Luna Node
> > (20GB vs 15GB) but half the RAM (512MB vs 1GB).

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:16:50PM -0400, Brett Delmage wrote:
> This is more than enough RAM to run
> * Mailman
> * BIND authoritative / caching DNS server
> * Postfix mail server
> * Apache web server
> * opendkim

Are these numbers with or without the overhead of

- Dovecot
- OpenDMARC or SPF policy agent
- Rspamd or Spamassassin
- Munin, Prometheus/Thanos, Statsd, etc.

Any of these particularly variable load? Or ever run out of control? I don't
have historical data for my instance, or the human memory.

I'm also on Postfix and OpenDKIM, and it's been rock-solid. I do not run Apache
or Mailman, just static content over optimised (but non QUIC/HTTP/3) NGINX.

> with room to spare. I have run these services on a 256 MB server when VPSs
> were more expensive.
>
> # free -m
>totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem: 481 143  89   1 248 325
> Swap:   1023 397 626

This is typical load, right? Ever run close to the limit on systemctl restart
of services after a pacman/apt/apk/dnf/zypper/etc. upgrade? Or due to the
package manager itself?

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Re: Keeping the lights on (was Re: [linux] Result of the OCLUG motion to dissolve) (fwd)

2023-04-10 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 12:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
Brett Delmage  wrote:

> This is more than enough RAM to run
> * Mailman
> * BIND authoritative / caching DNS server
> * Postfix mail server
> * Apache web server
> * opendkim

I'd take the extra 512MB of RAM over the extra 5GB of disk, but YMMV.

> The CACloud VPS also comes with 1 GB of swap, which extends the RAM
> nicely. In my experience many VPS do not come with any swap. Casual
> comparisons of VPS may not be valid.

With Luna Node, you can install whatever OS you want from an ISO image,
so if you want to configure swap, you can.

> CACloud's SSD VPSs are located at 151 Front, providing excellent
> latency for Ottawa and Canada in general.

Luna Node's Toronto data centre is in the Cogent Data Center at 245
Consumers Rd in North York.

My ping latency to my Luna Node box via Teksavvy DSL is a pretty constant
13ms.  My latency to my OVH box is a pretty constant 18ms.
My latency to www.canadianhosting.com is likewise a pretty constant
18ms.  So *shrug* no idea if it's just because Teksavvy happens to have
a better route to Luna Node, or what.

> CACloud has been completely hassle-free to control or have set up
> full mail server ports, and PTR records, both ipv4 and ipv6.

Luna Node too.  They also have a nice API (which is unlikely to be of
much use unless you're setting up / managing dozens of VPSes.)

Regards,

Dianne.

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Re: Keeping the lights on (was Re: [linux] Result of the OCLUG motion to dissolve) (fwd)

2023-04-10 Thread Brett Delmage

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Dianne Skoll wrote:


There's also Canadian Web Hosting - not just located in Canada but
Canadian-owned, from $7 CDN / month:
https://www.canadianwebhosting.com/vps


Interesting. I am still paying $5/month, maybe because I am grandfathered.


their low-end offering has more disk space than Luna Node
(20GB vs 15GB) but half the RAM (512MB vs 1GB).


This is more than enough RAM to run
* Mailman
* BIND authoritative / caching DNS server
* Postfix mail server
* Apache web server
* opendkim

with room to spare. I have run these services on a 256 MB server when VPSs were 
more expensive.


# free -m
   totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   available
Mem: 481 143  89   1 248 325
Swap:   1023 397 626


The CACloud VPS also comes with 1 GB of swap, which extends the RAM 
nicely. In my experience many VPS do not come with any swap. Casual 
comparisons of VPS may not be valid.


CACloud's SSD VPSs are located at 151 Front, providing excellent latency for 
Ottawa and Canada in general.


CACloud's service has been consistently and remarkably _excellent_ over 15 
years for me. I don't know how they do it when charging so little. Maybe 
because I treat support persons with respect and appreciation.


CACloud has been completely hassle-free to control or have set up full mail 
server ports, and PTR records, both ipv4 and ipv6.


---

Are there official minutes of the general meeting, including the list of 
atendees, quorum call, and votes on all resolutions? Will thay be posted here?


Brett


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