Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Dante Catalfamo]

Unfortunately something has come up and I won't be able to make it
tonight.

When do you think the next time we'd be able to organize an in-person
pub meetup?

Dante

On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 19:38 -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 2022-11-02 19:27, Dante Catalfamo wrote:
> > So is there going to be a meeting at the wellington royal oak
> > tomorrow?
> > If that's the case, who is going to be attending?
> 
> I will and I've had a private message from another who will meet me
> there beforehand.  I'm guessing they will also stay and certain they
> have the tech to join the jitsi meeting.
> 
> > On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 22:06 -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > > On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > > No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be
> > > > on
> > > > jitsi
> > > > only.
> > > 
> > > Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.?? I'll suggest the
> > > Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people
> > > in
> > > the
> > > west end.?? (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but
> > > I'm
> > > east
> > > of parliament...)
> > > 
> > > > That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together
> > > > with
> > > > others,
> > > > then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi
> > > > meeting.
> > > 
> > > I won't have any mobile device with me.
> > > 
> > > > The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> > > > 
> > > > Tug
> > > > 
> > > > On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> > > > > I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> > > > > /Dmitriy
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  Hi Richard,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > this!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  Sincerely,
> > > > > >  Katie
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  *From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> > > > > >  *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> > > > > >  *To:* Tug Williams 
> > > > > >  *Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> > > > > >  linux@linux-ottawa.org??;
> > > > > > Jean-
> > > > > > Francois
> > > > > >  Messier 
> > > > > >  *Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> > > > > >  Attention : courriel externe | external email
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > > > >  > Katie,
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > I'd be interested to know what you're referring to,
> > > > > > as I'm
> > > > > > not
> > > > > >  a CentOS
> > > > > >  > person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to
> > > > > > hear on
> > > > > >  Thursday :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  As an employee of the organization responsible for
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > disto, I may
> > > > > >  have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a
> > > > > > bit
> > > > > > messy...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  > I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr
> > > > > > Chen's
> > > > > > talk.
> > > > > >  I have
> > > > > >  > written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a
> > > > > > talk".
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the
> > > > > > talk)
> > > > > > relate to
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > - open data formats (I have opinions)
> > > > > >  > - data security (I have questions)
> > > > > >  > - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and
> > > > > > questions)
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation
> > > > > > into
> > > > > >  Mastodon as an
> > > > > >  > open source replacement for Twitter, which could
> > > > > > lead to
> > > > > > an
> > > > > >  interesting
> > > > > >  > discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > didn't
> > > > > >  get as far as
> > > > > >  > successfully installing a server.
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > So if there is interest, I think we have enough
> > > > > > material
> > > > > > for a
> > > > > >  few jitsi
> > > > > >  > based discussions on Thursday.
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Tug
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > > > > >  > >Hi Jean-Francois,
> > > > > >  > >
> > > > > >  > >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I
> > > > > > regret
> > > > > > missing
> > > > > >  last
> > > > > >  > >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home
> > > > > > automation are
> > > > > > really
> > > > > >  > 

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Katherine Mcmillan]

I also expect it to be a small group, and I’m okay with that (I’ve written this 
five different ways, and that’s the least euphemistic sounding, sorry, I tried).

Anyway, I plan on doing a rapid test beforehand. Richard, between your trip to 
Ireland, and mine to Europe recently, I'm thinking our risk of recent exposure 
- on the planes or one of the airports - is fairly high (the masking 
requirement on planes was already dropped when I came back - I still chose to 
wear a mask). But I think we're both also vaccinated.

So, yes, risk understood and acknowledged.

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 2:10:11 PM
To: James 
Cc: Brett Delmage ; linux@linux-ottawa.org 

Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-03 17:26, James wrote:
> Nov. 2, 2022 13:31:49 Richard Guy Briggs :
> >> Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> >> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
> >
> > I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
> > ?? https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
>
> Cases are not evenly spread out in the region.
> Congregate living places have always been worse.

Yup, and I'm not particularly concerned about what I expected to be a
small gathering in a pub given a strong penchant in this group to remain
online.  Particularly after being in some very crowded pubs in Dublin a
month and a half ago.

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-03 17:26, James wrote:
> Nov. 2, 2022 13:31:49 Richard Guy Briggs :
> >> Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> >> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
> > 
> > I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
> > ?? https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
> 
> Cases are not evenly spread out in the region.
> Congregate living places have always been worse.

Yup, and I'm not particularly concerned about what I expected to be a
small gathering in a pub given a strong penchant in this group to remain
online.  Particularly after being in some very crowded pubs in Dublin a
month and a half ago.

  slainte mhath, RGB
--
Richard Guy Briggs   --  ~\-- ~\ 
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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[James]

Nov. 2, 2022 13:31:49 Richard Guy Briggs :
> 
> 
>> Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
> 
> I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
>     https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
> 
Cases are not evenly spread out in the region.
Congregate living places have always been worse.


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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Hi Richard,

So for the record: some people will be meeting at the Royal Oak on Wellington 
(1217 Wellington Street West) at 7pm tomorrow, and they will connect to the 
Jitsi instance.

Thank you,
Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 19:38
To: Dante Catalfamo 
Cc: Tug Williams ; Dmitriy Korovkin 
; Ian E. Gorman ; Katherine Mcmillan 
; linux@linux-ottawa.org ; 
Jean-Francois Messier 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 19:27, Dante Catalfamo wrote:
> So is there going to be a meeting at the wellington royal oak tomorrow?
> If that's the case, who is going to be attending?

I will and I've had a private message from another who will meet me
there beforehand.  I'm guessing they will also stay and certain they
have the tech to join the jitsi meeting.

> On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 22:06 -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on
> > > jitsi
> > > only.
> >
> > Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.?? I'll suggest the
> > Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in
> > the
> > west end.?? (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm
> > east
> > of parliament...)
> >
> > > That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with
> > > others,
> > > then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi
> > > meeting.
> >
> > I won't have any mobile device with me.
> >
> > > The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> > >
> > > Tug
> > >
> > > On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> > > > I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> > > > /Dmitriy
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Hi Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > >  I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on
> > > > > this!
> > > > >
> > > > >  Sincerely,
> > > > >  Katie
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > >  *From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> > > > >  *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> > > > >  *To:* Tug Williams 
> > > > >  *Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> > > > >  linux@linux-ottawa.org??; Jean-
> > > > > Francois
> > > > >  Messier 
> > > > >  *Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> > > > >  Attention : courriel externe | external email
> > > > >
> > > > >  On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > > >  > Katie,
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm
> > > > > not
> > > > >  a CentOS
> > > > >  > person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
> > > > >  Thursday :)
> > > > >
> > > > >  As an employee of the organization responsible for that
> > > > > disto, I may
> > > > >  have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit
> > > > > messy...
> > > > >
> > > > >  > I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's
> > > > > talk.
> > > > >  I have
> > > > >  > written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk)
> > > > > relate to
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > - open data formats (I have opinions)
> > > > >  > - data security (I have questions)
> > > > >  > - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Unrelatedley - I also did some i

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-02 19:27, Dante Catalfamo wrote:
> So is there going to be a meeting at the wellington royal oak tomorrow?
> If that's the case, who is going to be attending?

I will and I've had a private message from another who will meet me
there beforehand.  I'm guessing they will also stay and certain they
have the tech to join the jitsi meeting.

> On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 22:06 -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on
> > > jitsi
> > > only.
> > 
> > Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.?? I'll suggest the
> > Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in
> > the
> > west end.?? (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm
> > east
> > of parliament...)
> > 
> > > That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with
> > > others,
> > > then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi
> > > meeting.
> > 
> > I won't have any mobile device with me.
> > 
> > > The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> > > 
> > > Tug
> > > 
> > > On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> > > > I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> > > > /Dmitriy
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Hi Richard,
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on
> > > > > this!
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Sincerely,
> > > > >  Katie
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > >  *From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> > > > >  *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> > > > >  *To:* Tug Williams 
> > > > >  *Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> > > > >  linux@linux-ottawa.org??; Jean-
> > > > > Francois
> > > > >  Messier 
> > > > >  *Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> > > > >  Attention : courriel externe | external email
> > > > > 
> > > > >  On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > > >  > Katie,
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm
> > > > > not
> > > > >  a CentOS
> > > > >  > person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
> > > > >  Thursday :)
> > > > > 
> > > > >  As an employee of the organization responsible for that
> > > > > disto, I may
> > > > >  have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit
> > > > > messy...
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's
> > > > > talk.
> > > > >  I have
> > > > >  > written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk)
> > > > > relate to
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > - open data formats (I have opinions)
> > > > >  > - data security (I have questions)
> > > > >  > - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into
> > > > >  Mastodon as an
> > > > >  > open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to
> > > > > an
> > > > >  interesting
> > > > >  > discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I
> > > > > didn't
> > > > >  get as far as
> > > > >  > successfully installing a server.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > So if there is interest, I think we have enough material
> > > > > for a
> > > > >  few jitsi
> > > > >  > based discussions on Thursday.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Tug
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > > > >  > >Hi Jean-Francois,
> > > > >  > >
> > > > >  > >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret
> > > > > missing
> > > > >  last
> > > > >  > >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are
> > > > > really
> > > > >  > >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> > > > >  > >
> > > > >  > >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around
> > > > > the
> > > > >  changes to
> > > > >  > >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work -
> > > > > I'd
> > > > >  like to know
> > > > >  > >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be
> > > > >  happy to explain
> > > > >  > >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> > > > >  > >
> > > > >  > >Sincerely,
> > > > >  > >Katie
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >---
> > > > > -
> > > > >  > >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier 

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Dante Catalfamo]

So is there going to be a meeting at the wellington royal oak tomorrow?
If that's the case, who is going to be attending?

On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 22:06 -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> > No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on
> > jitsi
> > only.
> 
> Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
> Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in
> the
> west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm
> east
> of parliament...)
> 
> > That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with
> > others,
> > then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi
> > meeting.
> 
> I won't have any mobile device with me.
> 
> > The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> > 
> > Tug
> > 
> > On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> > > I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> > > /Dmitriy
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >    Hi Richard,
> > > > 
> > > >    I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on
> > > > this!
> > > > 
> > > >    Sincerely,
> > > >    Katie
> > > > 
> > > >    
> > > > 
> > > >    *From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> > > >    *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> > > >    *To:* Tug Williams 
> > > >    *Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> > > >    linux@linux-ottawa.org ; Jean-
> > > > Francois
> > > >    Messier 
> > > >    *Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> > > >    Attention : courriel externe | external email
> > > > 
> > > >    On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > >    > Katie,
> > > >    >
> > > >    > I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm
> > > > not
> > > >    a CentOS
> > > >    > person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
> > > >    Thursday :)
> > > > 
> > > >    As an employee of the organization responsible for that
> > > > disto, I may
> > > >    have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit
> > > > messy...
> > > > 
> > > >    > I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's
> > > > talk.
> > > >    I have
> > > >    > written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    > My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk)
> > > > relate to
> > > >    >
> > > >    > - open data formats (I have opinions)
> > > >    > - data security (I have questions)
> > > >    > - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    > Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into
> > > >    Mastodon as an
> > > >    > open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to
> > > > an
> > > >    interesting
> > > >    > discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I
> > > > didn't
> > > >    get as far as
> > > >    > successfully installing a server.
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    > So if there is interest, I think we have enough material
> > > > for a
> > > >    few jitsi
> > > >    > based discussions on Thursday.
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    > Tug
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    >
> > > >    > On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > > >    > >Hi Jean-Francois,
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret
> > > > missing
> > > >    last
> > > >    > >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are
> > > > really
> > > >    > >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around
> > > > the
> > > >    changes to
> > > >    > >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work -
> > > > I'd
> > > >    like to know
> > > >    > >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be
> > > >    happy to explain
> > > >    > >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >Sincerely,
> > > >    > >Katie
> > > >    >
> > > >    >---
> > > > -
> > > >    > >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier 
> > > >    > >*Sent:* 01 November 2022 11:45
> > > >    > >*To:* linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> > > >    > >*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> > > >    > >*Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> > > >    > >Yeah, actually, this is not tonight, but Thursday night.
> > > > I stand
> > > >    > >corrected.
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >On 2022-11-01T11:36:26.000-04:00, Jean-Francois Messier
> > > >    
> > > >    > >wrote:
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >?? Do we have any topic, location, hours for tonight
> > > > meeting ?
> > > >    > >
> > > >    > >?? Thanks :-)
> > > >    > 

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

If it's Gentoo, I am all ears.
/Dmitriy

On Wed, 2 Nov, 2022 at 3:27 PM, Tug Williams  
wrote:
Yes there will, once it is clear what the topics will be... I have 
some (partially prepared) back up plans, to add to a CentOS 
discussion. Worst case, I can always share my Joy of Gentoo, which 
would fit into a "distro" theme...


If anyone else has a topic they'd like to talk about, then let me 
know, and I'll give you priority :)


I will clarify tomorrow, but there will be an online meeting, and 
hopefully RGB will be able to connect and join his remote friends.


Tug

On 02/11/2022 15:10, Ian wrote:

Hi all,

Ian MacWilliam here.  Here being Perth.  I really appreciate the 
ability to remotely join in without having to drive in and try to 
find parking, the building, the room, etc.  It's been a long time 
since any of my kids attended Ottawa U and much has changed, not to 
mention Ottawa construction (or the price of gas).


So, will the linux-ottawa.org website be updated with a meeting 
announcement and jitsi link?


Thanks,

Ian M.

P.S.  While you are not on your smart phone, I suggest reading 
something by Jaron Lanier.  He is very interesting. 
http://www.jaronlanier.com/




On 2022-11-02 14:43, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

On 2022-11-02 18:39, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Hm..seems pretty smart to me.
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but 
that's probably a conversation better had at a user group 
meeting.
I am aware of it.  I may be in the market around retirement when 
travel

is likely to become a more serious occupation.


-Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be 
factually correct)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Richard - you don't even have a pager?
No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT 
west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool 
to be

able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", 
and by
the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone 
needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in 
the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my 
initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" 
in

public.

I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see 
those things, they remind me of better days (of course, 
they're usually on doctors).


-Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
To: Brett Delmage 
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be 
factually correct)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...


Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".

"In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have 
perfectly valuable
and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully 
wearing masks, as

has been established the past two years.
They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers 
Conference

and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.

But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without 
concern and
action to involve virtual participants who may be the most 
isolated, is

exclusionary at the least, IMO.
*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having 
someone

with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.


Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608 

I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two 
years:

 https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the 
risk to

other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

   slainte mhath, RGB

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Tug Williams]

Yes there will, once it is clear what the topics will be... I have some 
(partially prepared) back up plans, to add to a CentOS discussion. Worst 
case, I can always share my Joy of Gentoo, which would fit into a 
"distro" theme...


If anyone else has a topic they'd like to talk about, then let me know, 
and I'll give you priority :)


I will clarify tomorrow, but there will be an online meeting, and 
hopefully RGB will be able to connect and join his remote friends.


Tug

On 02/11/2022 15:10, Ian wrote:

Hi all,

Ian MacWilliam here.  Here being Perth.  I really appreciate the 
ability to remotely join in without having to drive in and try to find 
parking, the building, the room, etc.  It's been a long time since any 
of my kids attended Ottawa U and much has changed, not to mention 
Ottawa construction (or the price of gas).


So, will the linux-ottawa.org website be updated with a meeting 
announcement and jitsi link?


Thanks,

Ian M.

P.S.  While you are not on your smart phone, I suggest reading 
something by Jaron Lanier.  He is very interesting. 
http://www.jaronlanier.com/




On 2022-11-02 14:43, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

On 2022-11-02 18:39, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Hm..seems pretty smart to me.
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but 
that's probably a conversation better had at a user group meeting.

I am aware of it.  I may be in the market around retirement when travel
is likely to become a more serious occupation.


-Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually 
correct)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Richard - you don't even have a pager?

No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool to be
able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", 
and by

the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" in
public.

I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see 
those things, they remind me of better days (of course, they're 
usually on doctors).


-Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
To: Brett Delmage 
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually 
correct)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...


Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".

"In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly 
valuable
and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing 
masks, as

has been established the past two years.
They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers 
Conference

and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.

But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without 
concern and
action to involve virtual participants who may be the most 
isolated, is

exclusionary at the least, IMO.

*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.


Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608 


I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
 https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the 
risk to

other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

   slainte mhath, RGB

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   slainte mhath, RGB
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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Ian]

Hi all,

Ian MacWilliam here.  Here being Perth.  I really appreciate the ability 
to remotely join in without having to drive in and try to find parking, 
the building, the room, etc.  It's been a long time since any of my kids 
attended Ottawa U and much has changed, not to mention Ottawa 
construction (or the price of gas).


So, will the linux-ottawa.org website be updated with a meeting 
announcement and jitsi link?


Thanks,

Ian M.

P.S.  While you are not on your smart phone, I suggest reading something 
by Jaron Lanier.  He is very interesting. http://www.jaronlanier.com/




On 2022-11-02 14:43, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

On 2022-11-02 18:39, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Hm..seems pretty smart to me.
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but that's probably 
a conversation better had at a user group meeting.

I am aware of it.  I may be in the market around retirement when travel
is likely to become a more serious occupation.


-Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Richard - you don't even have a pager?

No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool to be
able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", and by
the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" in
public.


I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see those things, 
they remind me of better days (of course, they're usually on doctors).

-Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
To: Brett Delmage 
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...


Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".


"In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly valuable
and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, as
has been established the past two years.

They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.


But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
exclusionary at the least, IMO.

*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.


Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608

I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
 https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

   slainte mhath, RGB

   slainte mhath, RGB

   slainte mhath, RGB
--
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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-02 18:39, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hm..seems pretty smart to me.
> Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but that's 
> probably a conversation better had at a user group meeting.

I am aware of it.  I may be in the market around retirement when travel
is likely to become a more serious occupation.

> -Katie
> 
> From: Richard Guy Briggs 
> Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
> To: Katherine Mcmillan 
> Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
> Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)
> 
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > Richard - you don't even have a pager?
> 
> No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT west on
> Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool to be
> able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
> consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", and by
> the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone needed
> to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in the
> mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my initial
> decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" in
> public.
> 
> > I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see those 
> > things, they remind me of better days (of course, they're usually on 
> > doctors).
> >
> > -Katie
> >
> > ________
> > From: Richard Guy Briggs 
> > Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
> > To: Brett Delmage 
> > Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> > Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)
> >
> > Attention : courriel externe | external email
> >
> > On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > > >The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
> > > >type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?
> >
> > "yes".
> >
> > > "In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly 
> > > valuable
> > > and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, 
> > > as
> > > has been established the past two years.
> >
> > They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
> > and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
> > demonstrated that very clearly.
> >
> > > But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
> > > action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
> > > exclusionary at the least, IMO.
> >
> > *I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
> > with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.
> >
> > > Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
> >
> > I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
> > https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
> >
> > Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
> > taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
> > other household members.
> >
> > I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
> > public archives and national library...).
> >
> >   slainte mhath, RGB
> 
>   slainte mhath, RGB

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Hm..seems pretty smart to me.

Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but that's probably 
a conversation better had at a user group meeting.

-Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Richard - you don't even have a pager?

No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool to be
able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", and by
the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" in
public.

> I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see those things, 
> they remind me of better days (of course, they're usually on doctors).
>
> -Katie
>
> 
> From: Richard Guy Briggs 
> Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
> To: Brett Delmage 
> Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)
>
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
>
> On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > >The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
> > >type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
>
> ...
>
> > Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?
>
> "yes".
>
> > "In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly valuable
> > and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, as
> > has been established the past two years.
>
> They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
> and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
> demonstrated that very clearly.
>
> > But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
> > action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
> > exclusionary at the least, IMO.
>
> *I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
> with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.
>
> > Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
>
> I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
> https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
>
> Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
> taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
> other household members.
>
> I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
> public archives and national library...).
>
>   slainte mhath, RGB

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Richard - you don't even have a pager?

No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool to be
able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", and by
the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" in
public.

> I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see those things, 
> they remind me of better days (of course, they're usually on doctors).
> 
> -Katie
> 
> 
> From: Richard Guy Briggs 
> Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
> To: Brett Delmage 
> Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)
> 
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > >The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
> > >type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
> 
> ...
> 
> > Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?
> 
> "yes".
> 
> > "In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly valuable
> > and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, as
> > has been established the past two years.
> 
> They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
> and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
> demonstrated that very clearly.
> 
> > But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
> > action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
> > exclusionary at the least, IMO.
> 
> *I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
> with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.
> 
> > Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608
> 
> I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
> https://613covid.ca/wastewater/
> 
> Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
> taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
> other household members.
> 
> I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
> public archives and national library...).
> 
>   slainte mhath, RGB

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Richard - you don't even have a pager?

I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see those things, 
they remind me of better days (of course, they're usually on doctors).

-Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
To: Brett Delmage 
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> >The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
> >type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...

> Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".

> "In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly valuable
> and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, as
> has been established the past two years.

They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.

> But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
> action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
> exclusionary at the least, IMO.

*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.

> Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608

I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> >The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
> >type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...

> Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".

> "In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly valuable
> and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully wearing masks, as
> has been established the past two years.

They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers Conference
and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.

> But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without concern and
> action to involve virtual participants who may be the most isolated, is
> exclusionary at the least, IMO.

*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having someone
with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.

> Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608

I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two years:
https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the risk to
other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Brett Delmage]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:


The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.


They certainly are when a meeting is held in a location like a bar where 
concerned and vulnerable participants will be needlessly exposed to people 
taking their masks off to drink and eat (if they even care about their 
fellow participants and wear masks at all). In a bar participants will 
unnecessarily surrounded by other unknown people unrelated to OCLUG who 
may have been hostile to public health measures to prevent catching and 
spreading COVID.


Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have perfectly 
valuable and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully 
wearing masks, as has been established the past two years.


But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without 
concern and action to involve virtual participants who may be the most 
isolated, is exclusionary at the least, IMO.


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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-02 06:35, Tug Williams wrote:
> On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> >On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> >>No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi
> >>only.
> >Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
> >Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
> >west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
> >of parliament...)
> >
> >>That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with others,
> >>then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.
> >I won't have any mobile device with me.
> 
> RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
> a) you're leaving your phone at home? or

I don't have a mobile device.

> b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether
> there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? or

No idea.

> c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or

*I* can't join any online meeting because I don't have a mobile device.

> d) something else I have not been able to imagine?

I am hoping others are also craving some in-person interaction and will
join me at this venue.  I'll aim for 18:30.  If they happen to have a
mobile device and can join the jitsi meeting, then we will join the rest
online.

> Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your
> contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?

I will if someone else with a mobile device shows up and chooses to join
the jitsi discussion.

This follows the previous discussion ideas about alternating online and
in-person meetings.  I can't imagine that I'm the only one in this
position.  The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

> Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? This
> is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tug
> 
> >>The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> >>
> >>Tug
> >>
> >>On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> >>>I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> >>>/Dmitriy
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman  wrote:
> Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on this!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> 
>  
> *From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> *To:* Tug Williams 
> *Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> linux@linux-ottawa.org ; Jean-Francois
> Messier 
> *Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> > Katie,
> >
> > I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm not
> a CentOS
> > person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
> Thursday :)
> 
> As an employee of the organization responsible for that disto, I may
> have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit messy...
> 
> > I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's talk.
> I have
> > written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
> >
> >
> > My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk) relate to
> >
> > - open data formats (I have opinions)
> > - data security (I have questions)
> > - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
> >
> >
> > Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into
> Mastodon as an
> > open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to an
> interesting
> > discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I didn't
> get as far as
> > successfully installing a server.
> >
> >
> > So if there is interest, I think we have enough material for a
> few jitsi
> > based discussions on Thursday.
> >
> >
> > Tug
> >
> >
> >
> > On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > >Hi Jean-Francois,
> > >
> > >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret missing
> last
> > >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are really
> > >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> > >
> > >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around the
> changes to
> > >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work - I'd
> 

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Tug Williams]

On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:

No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi
only.

Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
of parliament...)


That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with others,
then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.

I won't have any mobile device with me.


RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
a) you're leaving your phone at home? or
b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether 
there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? or

c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or
d) something else I have not been able to imagine?

Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your 
contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?


Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? 
This is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.


Thanks

Tug





The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.

Tug

On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:

I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
/Dmitriy

On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman  wrote:

Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan 
wrote:

Hi Richard,

I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on this!

Sincerely,
Katie


*From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
*To:* Tug Williams 
*Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
linux@linux-ottawa.org ; Jean-Francois
Messier 
*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> Katie,
>
> I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm not
a CentOS
> person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
Thursday :)

As an employee of the organization responsible for that disto, I may
have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit messy...

> I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's talk.
I have
> written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
>
>
> My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk) relate to
>
> - open data formats (I have opinions)
> - data security (I have questions)
> - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
>
>
> Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into
Mastodon as an
> open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to an
interesting
> discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I didn't
get as far as
> successfully installing a server.
>
>
> So if there is interest, I think we have enough material for a
few jitsi
> based discussions on Thursday.
>
>
> Tug
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> >Hi Jean-Francois,
> >
> >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret missing
last
> >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are really
> >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> >
> >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around the
changes to
> >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work - I'd
like to know
> >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be
happy to explain
> >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Katie
>
>
> >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier 
> >*Sent:* 01 November 2022 11:45
> >*To:* linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> >*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> >*Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> >Yeah, actually, this is not tonight, but Thursday night. I stand
> >corrected.
> >
> >
> >On 2022-11-01T11:36:26.000-04:00, Jean-Francois Messier

> >wrote:
> >
> >?? Do we have any topic, location, hours for tonight meeting ?
> >
> >?? Thanks :-)
> >
> >?? JF Messier (j...@messier.ca >)
> >
> >

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi
> only.

Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
of parliament...)

> That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with others,
> then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.

I won't have any mobile device with me.

> The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> 
> Tug
> 
> On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> >I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
> >/Dmitriy
> >
> >On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman  wrote:
> >>Will the Thursday??meeting be entirely on Jitsi?
> >>
> >>On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan 
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi Richard,
> >>
> >>I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on this!
> >>
> >>Sincerely,
> >>Katie
> >>
> >>
> >>*From:* Richard Guy Briggs 
> >>*Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
> >>*To:* Tug Williams 
> >>*Cc:* Katherine Mcmillan ;
> >>linux@linux-ottawa.org ; Jean-Francois
> >>Messier 
> >>*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> >>Attention : courriel externe | external email
> >>
> >>On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> >>> Katie,
> >>>
> >>> I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm not
> >>a CentOS
> >>> person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on
> >>Thursday :)
> >>
> >>As an employee of the organization responsible for that disto, I may
> >>have some opinions about the subject...?? ;-) It was a bit messy...
> >>
> >>> I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's talk.
> >>I have
> >>> written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk) relate to
> >>>
> >>> - open data formats (I have opinions)
> >>> - data security (I have questions)
> >>> - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into
> >>Mastodon as an
> >>> open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to an
> >>interesting
> >>> discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I didn't
> >>get as far as
> >>> successfully installing a server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So if there is interest, I think we have enough material for a
> >>few jitsi
> >>> based discussions on Thursday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tug
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> >>> >Hi Jean-Francois,
> >>> >
> >>> >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret missing
> >>last
> >>> >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are really
> >>> >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> >>> >
> >>> >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around the
> >>changes to
> >>> >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work - I'd
> >>like to know
> >>> >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be
> >>happy to explain
> >>> >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> >>> >
> >>> >Sincerely,
> >>> >Katie
> >>>
> >>
> >> >
> >>> >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier 
> >>> >*Sent:* 01 November 2022 11:45
> >>> >*To:* linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> >>> >*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> >>> >*Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> >>> >Yeah, actually, this is not tonight, but Thursday night. I stand
> >>> >corrected.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >On 2022-11-01T11:36:26.000-04:00, Jean-Francois Messier
> >>
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >?? Do we have any topic, location, hours for tonight meeting ?
> >>> >
> >>> >?? Thanks :-)
> >>> >
> >>> >?? JF Messier (j...@messier.ca  >>>)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>?? slainte mhath, RGB
> >>
> >>Ian Earl Gorman | //www.gorman.ca/  |

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Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Hello all,

If anyone is interested in attending an in-person meeting - please consider 
responding to the OCBUG poll for an in-person/hybrid get-together in November: 
https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/aK18ELzd/vote

Personally, I think there is a lot of overlap in interest/topics between these 
user groups - but I also understand that some would rather focus on Linux 
distros or *BSD flavours.

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Tug Williams 
Sent: 01 November 2022 16:29
To: Dmitriy Korovkin ; Ian E. Gorman 
Cc: Katherine Mcmillan ; Richard Guy Briggs 
; linux@linux-ottawa.org ; 
Jean-Francois Messier 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi only.

That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with others, 
then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.

The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.

Tug

On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
/Dmitriy

On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman 
<mailto:iegor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Will the Thursday meeting be entirely on Jitsi?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan 
mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> wrote:
Hi Richard,

I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on this!

Sincerely,
Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
To: Tug Williams mailto:tug.willi...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>>; 
linux@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> 
mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>>; Jean-Francois Messier 
mailto:j...@messier.ca>>
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting tonight

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> Katie,
>
> I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm not a CentOS
> person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on Thursday :)

As an employee of the organization responsible for that disto, I may
have some opinions about the subject...  ;-)It was a bit messy...

> I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's talk. I have
> written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
>
>
> My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk) relate to
>
> - open data formats (I have opinions)
> - data security (I have questions)
> - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
>
>
> Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into Mastodon as an
> open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to an interesting
> discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I didn't get as far as
> successfully installing a server.
>
>
> So if there is interest, I think we have enough material for a few jitsi
> based discussions on Thursday.
>
>
> Tug
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> >Hi Jean-Francois,
> >
> >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret missing last
> >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are really
> >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> >
> >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around the changes to
> >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work - I'd like to know
> >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be happy to explain
> >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Katie
> >
> >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier mailto:j...@messier.ca>>
> >*Sent:* 01 November 2022 11:45
> >*To:* linux@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> 
> >mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>>
> >*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> >*Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> >Yeah, actually, this is not tonight, but Thursday night. I stand
> >corrected.
> >
> >
> >On 2022-11-01T11:36:26.000-04:00, Jean-Francois Messier 
> >mailto:j...@messier.ca>>
> >wrote:
> >
> >Do we have any topic, location, hours for tonight meeting ?
> >
> >Thanks :-)
> >
> >JF Messier (j...@messier.ca<mailto:j...@messier.ca> 
> > <mailto:j...@messier.ca>)
> >
> >

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