VDI?
Is anyone currently using or know of a virtual desktop infrastructure solution that runs on Linux on z Systems? I've looked at a few options out there, eyeOS, Virtual Bridges, etc. but if they were supported at one time I can't tell if they still are or not. I called one of the vendors to ask this question and the sales team could not come up with an answer for me. Go figure. Any help would be appreciated! Kevin [http://www.mysiriuszone.com/images/events/Sirius-Logo-trans.gif] Kevin Gates | Linux Solutions Specialist Office: 480.471.8276 | Mobile: 480.734.1034 | kevin.ga...@siriuscom.commailto:kevin.ga...@siriuscom.com Sirius Computer Solutions | www.siriuscom.comhttp://www.siriuscom.com 7008 E Gold Dust Ave Suite 226 Paradise Valley, AZ 85253 This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. This message may be viewed by parties at Sirius Computer Solutions other than those named in the message header. This message does not contain an official representation of Sirius Computer Solutions. If you have received this communication in error, notify Sirius Computer Solutions immediately and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. Sirius Computer Solutionshttp://www.siriuscom.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Oracle Licensing
Hello Alan, Oracle licensing is core based and an IFL is one core. If you have 18 IFLs, but only 3 in the LPAR that hosts Oracle you need only pay for 3 licenses. You do not have to have any `dummy' Oracle servers running in other LPARS, the number of VMs does not matter, etc. You only pay for the number of IFLs that are assigned to the LPAR where Oracle is running, that's it. (If you are familiar with CPU Pooling and how it can be used to lower IBM software charges it does not apply for Oracle.) The main difference between Oracle licensing and distributed is the multiplier used to determine the cost. For example, with some Intel processors you have a .75 multiplier. So, if Oracle Enterprise Database has a base cost of $10,000 the per core charge for the Intel processors would be $7,500. IFLs have a 1.0 multiplier so the cost per IFL would be $10,000. Although our per core charge is more than on the distributed side customers still save a good amount of money because they use much fewer cores. Hope this helps, Kevin [http://www.mysiriuszone.com/images/events/Sirius-Logo-trans.gif] Kevin Gates | Linux Solutions Specialist Office: 480.471.8276 | Mobile: 480.734.1034 | kevin.ga...@siriuscom.commailto:kevin.ga...@siriuscom.com Sirius Computer Solutions | www.siriuscom.comhttp://www.siriuscom.com 7008 E Gold Dust Ave Suite 226 Paradise Valley, AZ 85253 This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. This message may be viewed by parties at Sirius Computer Solutions other than those named in the message header. This message does not contain an official representation of Sirius Computer Solutions. If you have received this communication in error, notify Sirius Computer Solutions immediately and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. Sirius Computer Solutionshttp://www.siriuscom.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Samba Print Config Problem - Insufficient access rights to connect
Dave, A shot in the dark Do you have sufficient rights for the print spool? I've seen this kind of problem occur if there are not. Ex-techie now marketing guy trying to help. ;) - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic14604.jpg) Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Dave MYERS [EMAIL PROTECTED] omTo Sent by: Linux on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Samba Print Config Problem - Insufficient access rights to 03/24/2004 11:31 connect AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I am getting this error on a new Samba (SLES8) printer config... (first time we're trying samba at this account) When trying to connect to the linux574 printer You do not sufficient access rights to your machine to connect to the selected printer I think I have file permissions set correctly also. ANY IDEAS?? My smb.conf: [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba write list = @ntadmin root itnry create mask = 0600 guest ok = Yes printable = Yes browseable = No [print$] comment = Printer Drivers path = /var/lib/samba/drivers write list = @ntadmin root force group = ntadmin create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 [linux574] comment = IBM InfoPrint 1352 path = /var/spool/samba guest account = itnry write list = @ntadmin root itnry read only = No create mask = 0600 guest ok = Yes printable = Yes printer name = linux574 Dave Myers Denver Solutions Group Senior Systems Engineer Office Phone: (303) 996-7112 Cellular Phone: (303) 619-0782 Home Office: (303) 948-0027 Fax: (303) 706.1713 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 attachment: pic14604.jpg
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Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements
All, I spoke to Suse and they will be posting something to the forum later today. However, I will say at this point that the LPAR based pricing post is incorrect. Straight from Suse's mouth, the pricing will remain CPU based for the mainframe. So, if you have 4 LPARS all running off the same CPU, you pay for Suse one time. With pSeries and iSeries, you pay for a box with x number of CPUs. In my past post the example was up to 8. They don't care how many instances you run. The confusion might be coming from their support pricing structure. That is based on the number of instances. 1 - 5, 6- 10,etc. I hope this clears most of the fog. Suse should be posting to the list sometime today also. - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic03929.jpg) PLEASE NOTE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION! Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mine.netcc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/17/2003 10:26 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 18:05, Alan Cox wrote: Wouldn't this depend on the price per instance and the number of instances, as well as the availability of both options ? Well, I believe that there are few (note: I'm *not* saying no) good reasons to run Linux/390 in any context other than VM. And, so, no, because if you're using Linux/390 in a cost-effective manner you're almost certainly in a situation where you're using multiple instances per CPU. I suppose in theory the per-instance price could be low enough that this wasn't a problem, but then, how do you ensure license compliance? One of the great things about VM is the ease with which you can set up and then destroy instances. How do you enforce a per-instance license in that scenario, anyway? Adam attachment: pic03929.jpg
Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements
I am a Suse Premier Channel Partner and resell their software everyday. The term server means one physical box. I have copied the following from the Suse pricebook for 2004 to help clarify: Enterprise Server 8 for IBM iSeries, incl. 1 year Maintenance Program for 1 server (up to 8 CPUs each) and Installationkit , International (German,English) So you can see that when you purchase SLES8 you can have as many instances as you can run on an up to 8 way box with no additional charge. Hope this helps, - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic03434.jpg) PLEASE NOTE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION! Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et cc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/16/2003 01:52 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port This interesting little tidbit showed up today. It says that the per-CPU licensing for SLES8 on iSeries and pSeries is being changed to per-install. (The announcement also uses the term per-server install.) Perhaps someone from IBM could comment on this. Does this mean that if someone uses the hypervisor to create (for example) 10 Linux LPARs, they would be charged for 10 licenses, when they might have been charged much less on a per-CPU basis? It's rather vague, and I don't want to spread misinformation if I can avoid it. Thanks, Mark Post -Original Message- From: IBM iSource [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements Software _ 203342 Prices restructured: SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 for iSeries and pSeries (5.1KB) http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=203-342 attachment: pic03434.jpg
Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements
I just happened to be on the phone with Suse when this came through. The pricebook for 2004 does not yet contain pricing for s/390 or zSeries. I asked if any change was anticipated and the answer was no, that the person was 98% sure it was remaining the same as it is today. So, that is what Suse has to say. My take is that Suse cannot possibly change the pricing structure for s/390 or zSeries. It would make no sense to do so as the increased cost through paying for each instance of Linux would make zLinux highly cost prohibitive in most cases. Like I told the Suse rep, if the model were to change they would see zLinux sales evaporate. Hope this helps, - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic30452.jpg) PLEASE NOTE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION! Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mine.netcc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/16/2003 03:51 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 16:43, Kevin Gates wrote: Enterprise Server 8 for IBM iSeries, incl. 1 year Maintenance Program for 1 server (up to 8 CPUs each) and Installationkit , International (German,English) So you can see that when you purchase SLES8 you can have as many instances as you can run on an up to 8 way box with no additional charge. Well, on an iSeries; is it the same for zSeries, though? Adam attachment: pic30452.jpg
Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements
The current model is a per processor charge on the zSeries. You can run as many instances off of a single processor on the box without having to purchase extra copies of Linux. So, if you have a single IFL you purchase one copy of SLES and run as many instances as you want. If you have 2 IFLs, you have to purchase 2 copies of SLES. - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic13031.jpg) PLEASE NOTE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION! Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mine.netcc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/16/2003 05:05 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 17:56, Mark Post wrote: Kevin, I think Adam was hoping for the same change for zSeries as the i/pSeries: one license charge for one physical box, not one license charge per instance. Even so, I don't see how SUSE could make that change either, given the relatively small number of processors used for Linux/390 workload. Well, I can see how SuSE could sanely do either a per-box or per-processor charge. A per-instance charge on zSeries would, however, destroy their Linux/zSeries business. Adam attachment: pic13031.jpg
Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements
Hmmm...there is confusion here, so I sent this thread to Suse and asked them to clear it up here on the list server. I am a big Suse fan and would hate for the wrong message being sent out. (Including from me.) Again, as I understand it, you can have Suse installed on a box with up to x CPUs and run as many instances of Linux as you can on that box. Here is an out-take from the Suse 2004 price list (which does not yet contain zSeries pricing, BTW) I work with Suse on a daily basis and I have not been told of a shift to LPAR based pricing similar to Red Hat's. (Of course if they have, I'l feel real stoopid!) Enterprise Server 8 for IBM pSeries, evaluation version, incl. 3 months Maintenance Program for 1 server (up to 8 CPUs each) and Installationkit ,International (German, English) This is confusing wording, but from what I understand there is no per LPAR charge. Now far be it for lil' ol' me to disagree with Jim. :) Hence, I sent the thread to Suse and told them they should get up on the list server post haste and clear the fog. I expect they should sometime tomorrow. - Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic09905.jpg) PLEASE NOTE NEW CONTACT INFORMATION! Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 480-471-8276 fax 480-452-1470 cell 480-734-1034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et cc: Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 12/16/2003 05:37 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Jim, Ouch. That's definitely not what I wanted to hear. Sigh. While that will give a break to people who want to assign multiple CPUs to an LPAR, it will punish those that want to assign fractional CPUs to an LPAR. Oh well. I guess that means _only_ CPU-intensive stuff on i/pSeries will be my recommendation from here on out. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: IBM iSource -- U.S. Announcements This interesting little tidbit showed up today. It says that the per-CPU licensing for SLES8 on iSeries and pSeries is being changed to per-install. (The announcement also uses the term per-server install.) Perhaps someone from IBM could comment on this. Does this mean that if someone uses the hypervisor to create (for example) 10 Linux LPARs, they would be charged for 10 licenses, when they might have been charged much less on a per-CPU basis? It's rather vague, and I don't want to spread misinformation if I can avoid it. Mark: Reading this announcement, I can understand the confusion. What it means is that SuSE SLES on iSeries and pSeries is now priced per LPAR. This is consistent with Red Hat RHEL which is also priced per LPAR on iSeries and pSeries. Both SLES and RHEL continue to be priced per processor on zSeries. Note that RHEL is priced per image on Intel and AMD servers so if you were running VMware with 4 RHEL images you would need 4 RHEL licenses. I don't know how SuSE charges in a VMware environment. Jim attachment: pic09905.jpg
Traveling and On Client Site - No Access to email
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Re: Showdown looms for SCO-IBM?
From IBM: From: Bob Samson Vice President, Systems Sales IBM Systems Group IBM Will Continue to Ship, Support and Develop AIX -- the Industry's Fastest Growing UNIX Operating System As you know, The SCO Group (formerly Caldera) filed a lawsuit claiming IBM improperly contributed licensed intellectual property to Linux. In addition, The SCO Group sent IBM a letter purporting to terminate IBM's license for the UNIX code used in the AIX operating system on June 13, 2003. However, IBM's agreement says that our license is irrevocable, perpetual, and fully paid up. We will continue to ship, support and develop AIX as our strategic UNIX operating system. For IBM, AIX represents years of innovation, hundreds of millions of dollars in investment and many key IBM patents. As we continue to vigorously defend ourselves against The SCO Group's allegations, it's important for you to reinforce our commitment to AIX with your customers. To help you understand The SCO Group's allegations and explain our position to your customers, we have created a brief, one-page QA with pertinent information. While it's primarily for your education, this document can also be shared with your customers. In addition, we encourage you to work closely with your local legal counsel to help respond to customer concerns. If, after going through this process, a sales opportunity remains at risk due to customer concerns or questions about The SCO Group lawsuit, please send the details directly to me at my Bob Samson Flash/Somers/IBM id. My team will get you the assistance you need promptly. Cheers, Kevin (Embedded image moved to file: pic28600.jpg) Kevin Gates DSG Linux Solutions Specialist __ office 770-682-7678 fax 678-530-1007 cell 404-759-4449 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsgroup.com Lionel Dyck Lionel.B.Dyck@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KP.ORG cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Showdown looms for SCO-IBM? on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 06/13/2003 10:17 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port More information on what may be in the future: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-1016706.html Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck attachment: pic28600.jpg
Re: Thoughts on DB2...
We are working with 2 clients and implementing DB/2 UDB on zLinux. As I understand it, what DB/2 UDB on zLinux is the equivalent of DB/2 EE (called Enterprise Server Edition?). It does not support partitions and has a 100 gig limit for 7.x and a 150 gig limit in 8.x. This will change at the `beginning of next year' when both partitioning and larger data sizes will be supported. I think this is what was called the triple E version. I'm not clear on the names, but am on what IBM is saying is coming down the pipe! I hope this helps! Cheers, Kevin Kevin Gates Linux Solutions Specialist Denver Solutions Group Office - 770-682-7678 Cell - 404-759-4449 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Hrbek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dware.comcc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: Re: Thoughts on DB2... 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 04/03/2003 05:00 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Dave To All, There is one draw back to this for now is that DB2 UDB on Linux/390 does not support partitioning. This was our stumbling block. In version 8 of DB2 UDB it is still the same code set only difference would have to enable licensing. At least this is my take on it. IBM also has not given a concrete answer as of why this version does not support partitioning on Linux/390. I am still looking for some technical answers. If anyone knows I would appreciate a reply. Thanks Rob Hrbek Ace Hardware Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Thoughts on DB2... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:34:18 -0500 Subject: Thoughts on DB2... All, On our traditional mainframe system, we are running a z/800-001 that is maxed out on CPU. We are trying to figure out ways to relieve this without buying another GP engine, and pay the big software costs. What I'm wondering is would it be possible, and if so, how smart would it be to try and move our DB2 workload to a Linux/390 server, and then have all the traditional mainframe apps access it remotely? Is this a path worth looking at? The reason I ask, is that and IFL bundled with z/VM is pretty cheap, and and I could utilize hipersockets. Waddya all think? Dave __ Dave Jousma Lead Systems Administrator - Information Technology Spartan Stores, Inc. PO Box 8700 Grand Rapids, MI 49518 (616) 878-2883 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cost of ISV product
David, If you think that your test is not *widely* used by IBM, IBM partners, vendors, developers, integrators, grocery baggers, etc. etc etc you need to tap into this place we call reality. :) Too late to try to reel that one in, I'm afraid. Cheers, Kevin David Boyes dboyes@sinenom To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ine.net cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Cost of ISV product on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 09/23/2002 07:35 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port I'd be interested in knowing who's doing that, especially without discussing it with me first. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cost of ISV product [...] I even had one vendor reference David Boyes's test of 40k servers on a machine as justification of their pricing, boy are the hype meters going off! phil
Intel Architecture Emulated with Linux/390?
Greetings Everyone, As I am investigating vendor support for Linux/390, I have run into a question I cannot answer. Vendors want to know if Linux/390 emulates Intel architecture. Apparently, when programming in C, they have to write the application to the specific architecture and that it will not work on non-Intel based systems. Is this an issue which can be resolved as part of a recompile? Cheers, Kevin
