Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Thanks. I've always been a little fuzzy on that whole 21 business, as I use it so rarely. |-+ | | McKown, John | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | insctr.com | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/06/2003 03:20 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --| James, That doesn't work. Why? First, the shell redirects STDERR to *the current STDOUT destination*, you then redirect STDOUT. Try: tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt 21 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of what it's archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it 21 /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and nothing in the file. What did I not remember?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
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The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows,
but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not
text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system,
not ASCII.
Mark Post
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On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On
Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get
it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it
up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows.
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Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Jim, You can use the pax command to do the conversion on the USS side. Mark Post -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux? |-+ | | McKown, John | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | insctr.com | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/06/2003 03:20 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --- ---| James, That doesn't work. Why? First, the shell redirects STDERR to *the current STDOUT destination*, you then redirect STDOUT. Try: tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt 21 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of what it's archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it 21 /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and nothing in the file. What did I not remember?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
I didn't realize that. Well how about doing the wget to get the entire directory structure from MVS. You now have a directory structure in EBCDIC. Do something like: mkdir /waga mkdir /waga/ebcdic mkdir /waga/ascii cd /waga/ebcdic wget ... for i in $(find . -name '*');do iconv -f IBM1047 -t ISO-8859-1 $i -o ../ascii/$i cd /waga rm -r ebcdic -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
I did a small test of mget from z/OS Unix to Windows 2000 using the command line, and text mode seems to work for me. -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Greetings; wget should work. The pages are served in ASCII by the server else they would be gibberish to any ascii machine receiving them. And, yes, I just tried it. Works great and quickly. One problem you might encounter is when the pages use SSI or pages are generated by cgi programs. Then wget will get the results that are sent, not the source to the commands or programs that greated them. However, you can point wget directly at the subject script and get it that way ... usually. I have yet to identify the specific cases where this does not work! Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 10:23 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
That's if you access them via HTTP. Not FTP, which is what was being discussed, for the very reason you mention. CGI, JSP, etc. files wanted, but not accessible via HTTP. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Dennis Wicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run Greetings; wget should work. The pages are served in ASCII by the server else they would be gibberish to any ascii machine receiving them. And, yes, I just tried it. Works great and quickly. One problem you might encounter is when the pages use SSI or pages are generated by cgi programs. Then wget will get the results that are sent, not the source to the commands or programs that greated them. However, you can point wget directly at the subject script and get it that way ... usually. I have yet to identify the specific cases where this does not work! Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 10:23 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Well Crap. What about some obtusely complex command line thing that would extend the tarball by file type and convert known text formats using iconv and piping it through tar or what not ? Or am I making it to complex theoretically? |-+ | | Post, Mark K | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | m | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/07/2003 10:23 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --| The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
How does pax know what to convert and what to keep? |-+ | | John Rowland | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | c.com | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/07/2003 10:27 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --| You can use the pax command on USS to translate the text files while creating a tar file. For example: pax -wvf mypax.tar -ofrom=ibm-1047,to=iso8859-1 files Then FTP the mypax.tar file to the PC and use something like WinZip to expand the files out of the tar/pax. ~ John Rowland Fischer International Systems Corporation www.fischerinternational.com 239 436 2751 - snip of mail headers that were in here --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list X-HDT-HopCount: 1 The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux? TEXT.RTF Description: RTF file
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:11, James Melin wrote: Well Crap. What about some obtusely complex command line thing that would extend the tarball by file type and convert known text formats using iconv and piping it through tar or what not ? Or am I making it to complex theoretically? I think you're making it too complex. Your ftp server will do text files in ASCII mode, right? So, get ncftp (I'm sure there's a cygwin port, so you can install it under Windows too), and do something like ncftp site cd /directory ascii get -R tree Or, for that matter, I'm sure there are Windows-native FTP interfaces that both let you set ASCII mode and slurp a whole tree at a time. Adam
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Good question, for which I have no good answer. If you have a mixture of text and binary files, I don't know what would happen to the binary files. Mark Post -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run How does pax know what to convert and what to keep? |-+ | | John Rowland | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | c.com | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/07/2003 10:27 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --- ---| You can use the pax command on USS to translate the text files while creating a tar file. For example: pax -wvf mypax.tar -ofrom=ibm-1047,to=iso8859-1 files Then FTP the mypax.tar file to the PC and use something like WinZip to expand the files out of the tar/pax. ~ John Rowland Fischer International Systems Corporation www.fischerinternational.com 239 436 2751 - snip of mail headers that were in here --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list X-HDT-HopCount: 1 The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole thing but the I realized the text based files will be EBCDIC, so that's kinda useless. What is the easiest way to bring this USS installed directory structure into windows so we can used the developer's favorite (gack) tool to redeploy this to z/Linux?
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Greetings; I guess I missed the ftp requirement in the post I replied to. Is ftp a requirement? If not can you use NFS on USS? NFS would solve a lot of problems. All you would need to do is export the file system, then mount it (Map Network Drive in Windows-speak) on your desktop. Then all the copying is quickly performed with the drag-and-drop GUI operation that all Windows users know and love! BTW, Re: the subject line. I think that would be brain fault as in memory fault, page fault and processor fault. While some of our Far Eastern friends might pronounce it that way, I doubt they would write it that way. Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 11:12 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port That's if you access them via HTTP. Not FTP, which is what was being discussed, for the very reason you mention. CGI, JSP, etc. files wanted, but not accessible via HTTP. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Dennis Wicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run Greetings; wget should work. The pages are served in ASCII by the server else they would be gibberish to any ascii machine receiving them. And, yes, I just tried it. Works great and quickly. One problem you might encounter is when the pages use SSI or pages are generated by cgi programs. Then wget will get the results that are sent, not the source to the commands or programs that greated them. However, you can point wget directly at the subject script and get it that way ... usually. I have yet to identify the specific cases where this does not work! Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 10:23 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to get the tar file to Windows. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run Actually, it occurs to me that this will do exactly what I wanted it to do, but not what I need it to do Specifically, I need to manually re-import the file system structure of a web site built on OS/390 Unix system services to which the developer destroyed his 'frontpage' source. The import website thing only follows links and he has some JavaScript built menus and crap, and cannot get the whole thing back properly. We want to re-deploy this to z/Linux (minor changes to scripts required) I had looked into having FTP recursively navigate a directory structure and re-created it on his desktop but I can't seem to see how to do that. So I was going to just tar the whole
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
If you have a mixture of text and binary files, I don't
know what would happen to the binary files.
A long time ago I wrote a script to run on USS and unpax based on file
extension.
It's kludgy I know, but it seemed to work:
# cat /usr/local/bin/ext
function usage
{
echo Usage: `basename $0` [-v] archive
echo where 'archive' is a tar/pax file
echo -v - verbose mode
echo
echo Extract files from archive as text and re-extract binary files
with suffixes:
echo .ico .bmp .jpg .gif .Z .gz .tzg .class
exit
}
paxFlags=-rf
if [ $# -eq 0 -o $# -gt 2 ]; then
usage
elif [ $# = 2 ]; then
if [ $1 = -v ]; then
paxFlags=-rvf
fi
shift
fi
# first extract with conversion
if [ $paxFlags = -rvf ]; then
echo extracting with -o to=IBM-1047,from=ISO8859-1 flag ...
echo --
fi
pax $paxFlags $1 -o to=IBM-1047,from=ISO8859-1
# capture the names of all binary files
binaryFiles=`pax -f $1 | awk
'/.ico$|.bmp$|.jpg$|.gif$|.Z$|.gz$|.tgz$|.class$/ {print $0}'`
# re-extract binary files with no conversion
if [ $binaryFiles ]; then
if [ $paxFlags = -rvf ]; then
echo re-extracting the following in binary ...
echo -
echo $binaryFiles
fi
else
echo No binary files found
fi
pax -rf $1 $binaryFiles 2/dev/null
You might modify it to go in the opposite direction.
-Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
Setting up NFS might be easier than doing what I'm trying to do. |-+ | | Dennis Wicks | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 11/07/2003 02:13 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run | --| Greetings; I guess I missed the ftp requirement in the post I replied to. Is ftp a requirement? If not can you use NFS on USS? NFS would solve a lot of problems. All you would need to do is export the file system, then mount it (Map Network Drive in Windows-speak) on your desktop. Then all the copying is quickly performed with the drag-and-drop GUI operation that all Windows users know and love! BTW, Re: the subject line. I think that would be brain fault as in memory fault, page fault and processor fault. While some of our Far Eastern friends might pronounce it that way, I doubt they would write it that way. Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 11:12 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port That's if you access them via HTTP. Not FTP, which is what was being discussed, for the very reason you mention. CGI, JSP, etc. files wanted, but not accessible via HTTP. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Dennis Wicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run Greetings; wget should work. The pages are served in ASCII by the server else they would be gibberish to any ascii machine receiving them. And, yes, I just tried it. Works great and quickly. One problem you might encounter is when the pages use SSI or pages are generated by cgi programs. Then wget will get the results that are sent, not the source to the commands or programs that greated them. However, you can point wget directly at the subject script and get it that way ... usually. I have yet to identify the specific cases where this does not work! Good Luck! Dennis Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after on 390 Porta command is run [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 11/07/2003 10:23 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port The wget command is one of my favorites, and it is available for Windows, but from my reading of the man page, wget only does binary transfers, not text/ASCII ones. So, Jim would wind up with EBCDIC on his Linux/390 system, not ASCII. Mark Post -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run On z/Linux, use the wget command. It will do recursive ftp gets. On Windows, you are on your own grin. Of course, you could use wget to get it to Linux (converting to ASCII), then use zip or tar on Linux to bundle it up, then ftp to
Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run
James, That doesn't work. Why? First, the shell redirects STDERR to *the current STDOUT destination*, you then redirect STDOUT. Try: tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt 21 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of what it's archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it 21 /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and nothing in the file. What did I not remember?
