Re: Location of ELKS Archive?

2000-04-27 Thread Alistair Riddoch

On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:57:47PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
  Does this mean ELKS has TCP/IP networking with PPP and/or SLIP?
 
 Nope. Thats a totally seperate project

I have had a few replies along these lines, but networking is as Alan says,
a completely different project. It is also something I know very little about
and don't have the time to embark on anything this unfamiliar to me.

If someone with networking knowledge was prepared to get this rolling I am
sure I could contribute.

Al



Re: Location of ELKS Archive?

2000-04-27 Thread Alistair Riddoch

On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 01:12:36PM +0200, Christian Theil Have wrote:
 Alistair Riddoch wrote:
 
  On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:57:47PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Does this mean ELKS has TCP/IP networking with PPP and/or SLIP?
  
   Nope. Thats a totally seperate project
 
  I have had a few replies along these lines, but networking is as Alan says,
  a completely different project. It is also something I know very little about
  and don't have the time to embark on anything this unfamiliar to me.
 
  If someone with networking knowledge was prepared to get this rolling I am
  sure I could contribute.
 
 Excuse me, but I am a bit confused! I thought  there was some sort of
 TCP/IP implementation
 project going on???  Is there a separate site and/or mailing list for this
 project.  Is there some one who is responsible coordinating for this? I'm sorry
 about all my clueless questions here, but I
 i'd really like to know
 

There was some effort started a while ago, but I think that seeing as we have
not heard anything in a very long time, it is safe to assume that the effort
has stalled.

Al



Re: Location of ELKS Archive?

2000-04-27 Thread Blaz Antonic

   If someone with networking knowledge was prepared to get this rolling I am
   sure I could contribute.
 
 Excuse me, but I am a bit confused! I thought  there was some sort of
 TCP/IP implementation
 project going on???  Is there a separate site and/or mailing list for this
 project.  Is there some one who is responsible coordinating for this? I'm sorry
 about all my clueless questions here, but I
 i'd really like to know

You have right to be confused :-) There is no (public) TCP/IP for ELKS
project and never was one. There were only few people claiming they
would do something but have vanished without a trace (or with some
excuse). People were enthusiastic about TCP stack but (IMO) noone got
anywhere near. No1 released their work so others could contribute so
that makes me think that they haven't achieved anything. But it is free
project, no1 was paying them so no1 can blame them for quitting.

I agree with them, ELKS in 2000 makes much less sense than it would in
1996 .. and that's the main reason some of them stopped from what i
know. Development of ELKS was similar to ln function .. it was
progressing quickly at he beginning but almost completely stopped later.
That's why i said the other day that ELKS (as a project) is dead. ELKS
(as source) is still avaliable to public and should remain that way.

bye, Ab




Re: Location of ELKS Archive?

2000-04-27 Thread Luke Farrar



On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Blaz Antonic wrote:

If someone with networking knowledge was prepared to get this rolling I am
sure I could contribute.
  
  Excuse me, but I am a bit confused! I thought  there was some sort of
  TCP/IP implementation
  project going on???  Is there a separate site and/or mailing list for this
  project.  Is there some one who is responsible coordinating for this? I'm sorry
  about all my clueless questions here, but I
  i'd really like to know


 You have right to be confused :-) There is no (public) TCP/IP for ELKS
 project and never was one. There were only few people claiming they
 would do something but have vanished without a trace (or with some
 excuse). 

Or both, like myself, for which I apologise.

The excuse was that due to problems at school (A-Level's, not getting
kicked out etc.) I didn't have time to do anything, and this stands for
another 2 months. At the time I wanted to help with networking stuff and
started on some stuff which was never released (didn't get very far, and
so your asumption that little was achived is correct).


 People were enthusiastic about TCP stack but (IMO) noone got
 anywhere near. 

Enthusiastic is right. I'm still enthusiastic about it, and I'd love to
help, but both then and now I just don't have the time.

I'm not going to make any promises of TCP/IP stacks and telnet clients,
but I really would like to help, and hopefully, when my exams are over, I
can help play with this stuff.

No1 released their work so others could contribute so
 that makes me think that they haven't achieved anything.

See above...

 I agree with them, ELKS in 2000 makes much less sense than it would in
 1996 .. and that's the main reason some of them stopped from what i
 know. Development of ELKS was similar to ln function .. it was
 progressing quickly at he beginning but almost completely stopped later.
 That's why i said the other day that ELKS (as a project) is dead. ELKS
 (as source) is still avaliable to public and should remain that way.

Put your hand up if you actually use ELKS.
Put your hand up if you've learnt from ELKS.

I know that I fall into the later of these two catagories, and I'm
guessing that most people do as well. As far as I am concerned ELKS is
just as useful as it was a couple of years ago.


Luke Farrar.





Re: A great project...

2000-04-27 Thread hcchin

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Harry Kalogiroy wrote:

 My opinion is that linux86 was and is a great project...

for me, is not just great project, I learn a lot from this mailing 
list too.