Re: Networking support
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Michal Margula wrote: > Hello! > > I have no idea if it was asked here before, because archive is not working > ;). So... I would like to try seting up network on elks 0.0.83, but there is > no any driver for network card. What shoudl I do about it? Is it possible to > put some code from Linux kernel into it? Or maybe anyboy has written a > driver for NE2000 compatible card? No one has yet added networking support for ELKS. JAkob
Re: some docs needed
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Gabor Lenart wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in ELKS developemnt and also my project U2X which is a unix > like system for 286. For this I would need some doc on very accurate > doc on programming i286 in pmode and some doc on MinixFS (ok, I know almost > everything by reading source from Linux and ELKS but I have some dark > spot and besides my work I have no time to solve the provblem myself). check out www.minix.org >From there are links to where you can buy books about Minix. Minix is now BSD-style licensed. Jakob
Re: embedded system without filesystem
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Pieter Grimmerink wrote: > > Should I give this a try, or would it be a waste of time, > because I can never mount a root filesystem? > > Or does anyone know of other embedded linux projects, > that work without a filesystem? > You could unpack a very small ROM files system or something into RAM. Jakob
Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Cristi wrote: > > That is what I was actualy reffering to. I see even the network adapter > drivers being implemented as kernel modules. of course if the kernel > load/unload module mechanism would take more than the actual driver the > solution is to have different kernels compiled for the particular hardware. > Probably the principial question is if ELKS will need runtime kernel > modules or not. I don't understand. What is a runtime kernel module? Jakob
RE: your mail
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregg C Levine wrote: > Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers > I just tried the first link http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html and my > browser returned a 404 error. I thus concluded that is probably no longer a > working site. I then tried the next one http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ and > found that one does indeed work. Just what exactly is being done with minix > given the existence of a large Linux user base, and a big group for the ELKS > projects? I wrote the first link, and made an error. Then Darran corrected me. Minix is older than linux, but Minix never was really Open Source until some month ago. Minix has or at least had quite a big user-base, nevertheless. Minix comes in both 16-bit and 32-bit versions. ELKS actually is not that much used. I would doubt that ELKS has any real _user_ that uses ELKS as a tool for something. (And I don't mean as tutoring tool or such.) Jakob
Re: your mail
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emilio Joel Macias Gomez wrote: > hello > i dont speak english very well but i do my best > i want use the ELKS in my 286 machine with one ethernet card ne2000 > and i don't know make this. > The ELKS work perfectly with the elkscmd but i need work with the network > and i don't have idea for make this. ELKS does not have support for TCP/IP yet. The plan is to implement it as a user space process, if I understand the developers right. You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try out Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html Minix supports NE2000, TCP/IP, several users and some memory protection on the 80286. Jakob
Re: Market space for a 16-bit linux product?
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Eli Liang wrote: > A question for linux-8086 list readers: > > With such OS vendors as QNX looking to become at least > partially open, do you think there is a space in the > embedded systems marketplace for an open source 16-bit > processor Linux variant (like ELKS) with TCP/IP protocol > stack? Could you ever imagine that it could grab a > significant share of this marketplace? > > After all, there exists MINIX and open-source 11Kb kernels Now when Minix is Open Source, minix code can get incorporated into ELKS and the reverse is also true. JAkob
RE: Linux for a really old computer
On Tue, 2 May 2000, Kalogirou Harilaos wrote: > The amstrad PC1640 has nothing to do this 286 and 386 , it is just an > 8086 based machine... The one we are talking about obviously has 20MB > harddisk... Try Minix on it. Minix got BSD-licensed a few weeks ago. Jakob
Re: X-Server
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, LORENTZ Istvan wrote: > > Hi! > > I just heard about the elks project; > > Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running > on 16 bit systems ? > I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. > Is it possible ? This is an old one, which after many, many postings about whether this is at all possible usually boils down to someone admitting [s]he has an old commercial X11 or X10 server for 80286 DOS or Windows (but not working on 8088 or 8086). regards, Jakob
Re: Some q's
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, William Price wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Thomas Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:32 AM > Subject: Some q's > > > > A few q's:- > > > > 1. A while back I remember someone talking about driving LCD's, Can Linux > > drive LCD's well? Where can I get some info on this? > > > > Yes,I have questions about this as well. I wish to someday run ELKS on my > Tandy HD 1000 > laptop (8086 based) and its screen is LCD. Is anyone working on this, or > does anyone have any knowledge about it? > William Price > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe we are discussing different things here. Biglinux boxes are by some people attached to LCD displays that use a serial interface. Your Tandy, in contrast, probably treats the display as any graphics card, for instance CGA compatible. (Or at least BIOS must handle text on it.) Thus, you can probably use ELKS right away. Boot it and see what happens. Jakob
Re: What this then ???
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Giles Russell wrote: > Allo Allo Allo, what all this then ??? > > CHM-BIOSerweiterungen für Debugger > > Can anyone translate this ?, give it some meaning ?? According to babelfish erweiterungen is extensions. CHM-BIOSextensions for Debugger I'm afraid you need to give some context... :-) (And I'm afraid I can't help anyway.) Regards, Jakob
Re: elkscmd
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: > Mario Frasca writes: > > a date without century is interpreted as 1970-2069. > > This is patented. It is not legal to use this algorithm to deal with y2k > issues. See this link for more info: > http://slashdot.org/articles/99/11/01/2047228.shtml ;-) Software patents don't make sense. This patent is extremely ridiculous. Where do you live Mario? Citizen where? That is probably patented only in the US. Not all states do allow software patents. (Sweden doesn't allow software patents. Software can only be patented in Sweden as a part of a physical mechanism or machine, not by itself. That algorithm can be used by others for any other purpose, as long as it is not in the machine or mechanism you have patented.) Jakob
