Re: elks

2000-05-02 Thread Full Turtle

--- "W.L. van der Poel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> for you guys to look up old XINU again. If somebody still wants a
> copy of XINU, please send me an email and I will see to it that
Hey, thank you, I have the book but I don't have the sources!

> With the still lowering prices of PC's it sounds a bit ridiculous
> to me to put so much effort in bringing Elks (or Linux) up on too
> small or too old-fashioned machines. And why use Elks nowadays on
Humm, I don't think so! I have a HP200LX 2MB RAM and it's dieing! It's needing
a heart (OS) transplant. I want a RDBMS running there. I want a X system
running there.
The problem is I'm not as good as programmer to write, alone, a operating
system for my palmtop. So I depend of good people to provide the start point,
concepts and tips to do that.
Those guys I've found here!

=
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Re: Re: elks

2000-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FullTurtle

>a heart (OS) transplant. I want a RDBMS running there. I want a X system
>running there.

I'm not sure I would want to run X on the HP200lx. Ok, I know it's a nice
palmtop (I have one) but I dont think it would be fast enough or have enough
system ram (you only get 640k) to run X unless you were willing to write
a cut down version.

There are probably better 32 bit palm tops around for doing this.

Veronica




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Re: Re: elks

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Stewart

>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >FullTurtle
> >a heart (OS) transplant. I want a RDBMS running there. I want a X system
> >running there.
>
>I'm not sure I would want to run X on the HP200lx. Ok, I know it's a nice
>palmtop (I have one) but I dont think it would be fast enough or have 
>enough
>system ram (you only get 640k) to run X unless you were willing to write
>a cut down version.
>
>There are probably better 32 bit palm tops around for doing this.
>
>Veronica

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Re: Linux for a really old computer

2000-05-02 Thread Alex Holden

On Tue, 2 May 2000, Jan Dobrucki wrote:
> I have a little problem. I got an Amstrad PC1640 HD20. Real old. I don't
> even know how much RAM it has. So tell me, any hope for porting Lunux to

The answer's in the question. It has 640KB of RAM and was sold with a 20MB
hard drive. I think the processor was an 8086 and it was one of those
"just about" PC compatible clones that were popular for a while. You've no
chance of getting Lunux [sic] to run on it, but there's a fair chance ELKS
will work.

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RE: Linux for a really old computer

2000-05-02 Thread Rod Boyce

IF memory serves (This is going back a long way) The Amstrad PC1640 was a
286 or 386.  I saw one in operation about 5 years running an accounting
package it was Very old then.  I think they originally had 720K floppy
disks.  I do not know about running elks on it as I haven't played with ELKs
much myself but I do know a bit about PC.

Regards,
Rod Boyce


-Original Message-
From:   Dan Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, 2 May 2000 18:51
To: Jan Dobrucki
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Linux for a really old computer

> Hi folks.

Hi.  Well, looks like there aren't any other folks out there
with an
answer, so why don't I take a shot at this one :)
> 
> I have a little problem. I got an Amstrad PC1640 HD20.
Real old.

Well, really old means a lot of different things to
different people.  I
thought the couple origional IBM PCs I had around were old
until I bought
a late 70s TRS-80 :)  *Anyway*, if it's something old enough
that it won't
run plain old Linux, but is new enough to be X86 / X88
based, you're in
the right place.

 I don't
> even know how much RAM it has. So tell me, any hope for
porting Lunux to
> it, or do I have to find myself a 386 with 4 MB of RAM?

What do you want in the end, exactly??  Elks and Linux
aren't really quite
the same, despite what the name implies.  Elks doesn't have
things like
networking that you may want, and due to the type of CPU
it's targeted
to, memory protection / security really isn't there either.
If you want a
more advanced Linux install, your 386 suggestion is a good
one.  If you
just want to have a little fun running the old machine, Elks
may work for
you.  I don't know for sure, but I have an Amstrad manual
around somewhere
for one of their Z80 based (8 bit) machines.  If you're
still lost, I
could see if it just happens to be the sam model.  Good
luck!

Dan



RE: Linux for a really old computer

2000-05-02 Thread Kalogirou Harilaos

The amstrad PC1640 has nothing to do this 286 and 386 ,  it is just an
8086 based machine... The one we are talking about obviously has 20MB
harddisk... 

HarKal






RE: Linux for a really old computer

2000-05-02 Thread Michael McConnell

On Tue, 2 May 2000, Kalogirou Harilaos wrote:

> The amstrad PC1640 has nothing to do this 286 and 386 ,  it is just an
> 8086 based machine... The one we are talking about obviously has 20MB
> harddisk... 

...and the floppy discs were 360K. (I had one until late last year, when 
I gave it away...)

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keyboard error?

2000-05-02 Thread Mauricio Etcheverry

Hello, I'm from Uruguay so my native language is spanish, forgiveme by the
bad english.
I have an IBM ps/2 8525 (an 8086 CPU). The booting of ELKS works well except
by some problems when trying to mount the hard disk  (I think it's toasted
because don't works even with DOS). But the real problem comes when the
Login prompt appears. I can't write noting. The keyboard is completly dead.
I have a PS/2 enhanced keyboard with 104 keys.


Please, helpme.

Mauricio.




ELKS and TCP/IP

2000-05-02 Thread Larry Howard Mittman


Is the TCP/IP project totally dead, or is someone still working on it? 
I have an AT&T PC6300 just waiting for me to install ELKS on it, but
without a TCP/IP stack, it is of limited use to me.  I **really**
want to put it back into service!!  Thanks - Larry
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Re: ELKS and TCP/IP

2000-05-02 Thread Ken Yap

>Is the TCP/IP project totally dead, or is someone still working on it?  I
>have an AT&T PC6300 just waiting for me to install ELKS on it, but
>without a TCP/IP stack, it is of limited use to me.  I **really** want to
>put it back into service!!  Thanks - Larry

AFAIK nobody's doing anything. I saw that Guy Lancaster's ucip stack
is out there and ported to a micro or two. Only does PPP though.
It appears to be derived from KA9Q, BSD and Linux code. I think the site
is http://www.ucos-ii.com/



Re: keyboard error?

2000-05-02 Thread Dan Olson

On Thu, 4 May 2000, Mauricio Etcheverry wrote:

> Hello, I'm from Uruguay so my native language is spanish, forgiveme by the
> bad english.
> I have an IBM ps/2 8525 (an 8086 CPU). The booting of ELKS works well except
> by some problems when trying to mount the hard disk  (I think it's toasted
> because don't works even with DOS). But the real problem comes when the
> Login prompt appears. I can't write noting. The keyboard is completly dead.
> I have a PS/2 enhanced keyboard with 104 keys.

I assume that the 8525 is the one otherwise knows as the Model 25, as I
think it's the only PS/2 with an 8086 in it.  I have one as well, and have
the same keyboard problem.  I believe that it is infact the keyboard, not
the OS hanging.  Anyway, I definetly haven't worked on this problem, and
the one other person that is/was on this list with a Model 25 I believe
was looking into the ... microchannel bus? (is that what they have?) to
try to figure out the problem.  I don't recall any solution being found,
though I may be wrong.  Sorry I don't have better news for you.

Dan