Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance

2019-08-05 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier

On 7/29/19 8:44 PM, Robin Gareus wrote:

On 7/29/19 8:21 PM, Stephan Bourgeois wrote:


Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled
with jack?


Given that jack is cross-platform and meterbridge is a X11 application
it's not very likely to be bundled with jack itself.

The main use-case for meterbridge is the dpm mode with many channels to
check input activity.

You may also want to have a look at
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/2012-June/032475.html
- the debian package applied this, but it never reached upstream, it's
likely not relevant after your re-work either.


A better candidate to be bundled with JACK would be 
https://github.com/njh/jackmeter (although I tend to prefer jack_capture 
/dev/null, b/c it does multiple channels). A simple command line meter 
for troubleshooting would be great. But ballistics are of secondary 
importance, this is more to check if it's alive. That also means it 
should go down to -100dB or so.


That said, a "signal present" indicator would help in all patchbay 
applications such as patchage and qjackctl (switchable of course to not 
waste resources when not needed).



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Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance

2019-07-29 Thread Will J Godfrey
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:21:39 -0700 (MST)
Stephan Bourgeois  wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I have been tinkering with Steve Harris' meterbridge 0.9.2 for jack.
>cf. https://github.com/stephanb2/jack-meterbridge
>
>1. Refactored global variables so that the code builds on Debian 9.2.
>2. Improved (?) the dpm IEC scale and ballistics.
>3. Changed the PPM ballistics to use Fons Adriaensen's JMeters algorithm.
>
>I do however have a deeper question: what is the point of jack meterbridge?
>Given that the broadcast and podcast industry has moved to EBU-R128 and
>Ebumeter offers EBU R-128 metering. JMeters offers "nostalgia" PPM and VU
>meters with correct ballistics, more options, better graphics. The only
>thing missing would be a 4x oversampling true peak meter.
>
>Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled
>with jack?
>
>Note that I am not a C engineer, my background is Java and Python. Please
>send code review comments and shout if you see anything horrific.
>
>Let me know your thoughts. 
>Cheers,
>Stephan.

I use it all the time. It is simple, clear and runs well in a standalone
environment. It also acts as a useful summing point. One's ears are the final
arbiter but this is very helpful.

I will check out your build as soon as I have some free time (whatever that is!)


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Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance

2019-07-29 Thread Robin Gareus
On 7/29/19 8:21 PM, Stephan Bourgeois wrote:

> Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled
> with jack?

Given that jack is cross-platform and meterbridge is a X11 application
it's not very likely to be bundled with jack itself.

The main use-case for meterbridge is the dpm mode with many channels to
check input activity.

You may also want to have a look at
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/2012-June/032475.html
- the debian package applied this, but it never reached upstream, it's
likely not relevant after your re-work either.

Cheers!
robin
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