Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:26:27AM +, Duncan wrote: Chris Samuel posted on Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:48:56 +1100 as excerpted: $ sudo smartctl --identify /dev/sdb | fgrep 'Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT' 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported $ If that command returns nothing then it's not reported as supported (and I've tested that). You can get the same info with hdparm -I. My puzzle now is that I have two SSD drives that report supporting NCQ TRIM (one confirmed via product info) but report only supporting SATA 3.0 not 3.1. My SATA 2.5 SSDs reported earlier, report support for it too, so it's apparently not SATA 3.1 limited. (Note that I'm simply grepping word 169, in the command below. Since word 169 is trim support...) sudo smartctl --identify /dev/sda | grep '^ 169' 169 - 0x0001 Data Set Management support 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported Either that or that feature bit simply indicates trim support, not NCQ trim support. Mmmh, so now I'm confused. See this: === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: INTEL SSDSC2BW180A3L Serial Number:CVCV215200XU180EGN LU WWN Device Id: 5 001517 bb28c5317 Firmware Version: LE1i User Capacity:180,045,766,656 bytes [180 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate:Solid State Device Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) Local Time is:Sat Mar 15 15:49:06 2014 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled polgara:/usr/src# smartctl --identify /dev/sda | grep '^ 169' 169 - 0x0001 Data Set Management support 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported This is a super old SSD from 3 years ago. Clearly it can't support synchronous dicard, right? Yet, deleting a kernel tree also takes 1.5 seconds: polgara:/usr/src# time rm -rf linux-3.14-rc5/ real0m1.441s user0m0.048s sys 0m1.352s So maybe it's not the data level, but just the value of 169? Either way, this SSD is more than 2 years old, maybe 3 actually. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: Mmmh, so now I'm confused. See this: === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: INTEL SSDSC2BW180A3L Serial Number:CVCV215200XU180EGN LU WWN Device Id: 5 001517 bb28c5317 Firmware Version: LE1i User Capacity:180,045,766,656 bytes [180 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate:Solid State Device Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) Local Time is:Sat Mar 15 15:49:06 2014 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled polgara:/usr/src# smartctl --identify /dev/sda | grep '^ 169' 169 - 0x0001 Data Set Management support 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported This is a super old SSD from 3 years ago. Clearly it can't support synchronous dicard, right? No. The first signs I saw they were appearing in the wild was 3rd quarter 2013. I'm pretty sure SAS SSDs always have had a queued trim command. So in the workloads that demanded it and with a budget, this wouldn't have ever been a problem. Yet, deleting a kernel tree also takes 1.5 seconds: polgara:/usr/src# time rm -rf linux-3.14-rc5/ real0m1.441s user0m0.048s sys 0m1.352s I don't know that this is a good test for two reasons. Does rm always call trim before the rm command completes? If trim is batched or delayed it could happen well after. Second, and more of a factor, the queue needs to have pending commands in them that an async trim command will have to wait for. The problem with non-queued trim is that it requires the queue to be empty. So you'd need a test or workload that causes that behavior to be a problem. And yet another factor with trim is that some SSDs immediately, aggressively start garbage collection and become slow to respond to anything. While others are smarter about doing this when the drive isn't as busy. Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:22:05PM -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: queued trim, not even a prototype. I went out and bought a 840 EVO this morning because the general lazyweb opinion seemed to indicate that this drive supports queued trim. Well, it doesn't. At least not in the 120GB version: # smartctl -l gplog,0x13 /dev/sda smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-rc6+] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net General Purpose Log 0x13 does not exist (override with '-T permissive' option) If there's a drive with a working queued trim implementation out there, I'd like to know about it... I tried that for you on my 840 EVO 1TB and go the same as you: legolas:/usr/src# smartctl -l gplog,0x13 /dev/sda smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-rc5-amd64-i915-preempt-20140216c] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org General Purpose Log 0x13 does not exist (override with '-T permissive' option) Now, back to the fact that it takes 1.5sec to delete a kernel tree with discard on, and it doesn't seem faster with discard off on either that drive or my very old intel SSD, I'm starting to think that this is kind of a non problem and/or that something else makes rm of a kernel tree take around 1.5sec Is is it much faster on an ssd for someone else? Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 04:25:05 PM Chris Samuel wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to use that knowledge to extend the smartctl's --identify functionality to report this? After reading the SATA 3.1 spec I believe that smartctl *can* indicate if a drive claims to support SATA 3.1 NCQ TRIM, thus: $ sudo smartctl --identify /dev/sdb | fgrep 'Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT' 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported $ If that command returns nothing then it's not reported as supported (and I've tested that). You can get the same info with hdparm -I. Of course, as Martin said, that doesn't necessarily mean the kernel is using that reported ability. My puzzle now is that I have two SSD drives that report supporting NCQ TRIM (one confirmed via product info) but report only supporting SATA 3.0 not 3.1. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:39:02 PM Chris Murphy wrote: smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. Both I'd say as I believe it's the controller that has to issue it to the drive, and the drive needs to understand it. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
Hi Marc, On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:17:50 PM Marc MERLIN wrote: I'm not sure I'm seeing this, which field is that? I *think* you want smartctl -i instead, and look for the field that says something like: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS, ACS-2 T13/2015-D revision 3 So if my understanding is correct that says it's just rev. 3.0 so TRIM for this is synchronous. Good luck! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
Marc MERLIN posted on Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:17:50 -0700 as excerpted: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:39:02PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:33:50AM +, Hugo Mills wrote: discard is, except on the very latest hardware, a synchronous command (it's a limitation of the SATA standard), and therefore results in very very poor performance. Interesting. How do I know if a given SSD will hang on discard? Is a Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSD latest hardware enough, or not? :) smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. I'm not sure I'm seeing this, which field is that? ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4c Your drive didn't report it, but here, I have SATA fields as well, in addition to the ATA fields: Here's the fields from my Corsair Neutron SSDs: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 6.0 Gb/s Here's the fields from my Seagate 500-gig 2.5-inch spinning rust: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s (More about that below.) Smartctl version here is 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841, according to the output. (I'm running gentoo/~amd64 FWIW so it's a local-build). You snipped that bit of your output so I can't compare. But it may also depend on whether smartctl auto-detected and used the ATA or the SCSI (or something else) command set and how your devices are actually connected, plus BIOS settings, etc. See the manpage documentation for the -d TYPE (--device=TYPE) option and the ATA/SCSI/SAT discussion rather further down the manpage for more. Here I have direct SATA connections with the BIOS set to AHCI mode and am thus using the kernel's AHCI drivers, since that's the most common SATA chipset standard these days, thus increasing portability given my monolithic kernel build. smartctl's -d test reports an original guess of scsi, changed to sat after detection. Of course connection via USB bridge or the like complicates things considerably. Meanwhile, SATA 2.5, 6 Gb/s on the SSDs, SATA 2.6, 3 Gb/s on the spinning rust? WTF? The SSDs have SATA 2.5 but 6 Gb/s while the spinning rust has a later 2.6 but only 3 Gb/s (tho of course on a mechanical drive the bus speed won't be the bottleneck)? Now I'm confused. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:07:54PM +, Duncan wrote: Marc MERLIN posted on Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:17:50 -0700 as excerpted: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:39:02PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:33:50AM +, Hugo Mills wrote: discard is, except on the very latest hardware, a synchronous command (it's a limitation of the SATA standard), and therefore results in very very poor performance. Interesting. How do I know if a given SSD will hang on discard? Is a Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSD latest hardware enough, or not? :) smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. I'm not sure I'm seeing this, which field is that? ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4c Your drive didn't report it, but here, I have SATA fields as well, in addition to the ATA fields: Here's the fields from my Corsair Neutron SSDs: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 6.0 Gb/s Here's the fields from my Seagate 500-gig 2.5-inch spinning rust: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s Ok, my smartmontools was too old. I got a newer one and now have proper output: Device Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1TB Serial Number:S1D9NEAD934600N LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 85009a8ff Firmware Version: EXT0BB0Q User Capacity:1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate:Solid State Device Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is:Fri Mar 14 10:49:39 2014 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled So I have Sata 3.1, that's great news, it means I can keep using discard without worrying about performance and hangs Thanks, Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
Marc == Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org writes: Marc, Marc So I have Sata 3.1, that's great news, it means I can keep using Marc discard without worrying about performance and hangs The fact that the drive reports compliance with a certain version of SATA does not in any way imply that it implements all commands defined in that specification. The location where queued TRIM support is reported is somewhat unusual. And last I looked hdparm -I had no infrastructure in place to report stuff contained in log pages. The kernel does look the right place to determine whether to issue the queued or unqueued variant or not. But the information isn't exported to userland. So right now I'm afraid we don't have a good way for a user to determine whether a device supports queued trims or not. I guess we could consider either adding an ATA-specific I don't suck flag in sysfs, add the missing code to hdparm, or both... -- Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:57:41 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: So right now I'm afraid we don't have a good way for a user to determine whether a device supports queued trims or not. Mount with discard, unpack kernel tree, sync, rm -rf tree. If it takes several seconds, you have sync discard, no? This changed somewhere around kernel 3.8.x; before that it used to be acceptably fast. Since then I only do batch trims, daily (server) or weekly (laptop). -h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:39:02PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:33:50AM +, Hugo Mills wrote: discard is, except on the very latest hardware, a synchronous command (it's a limitation of the SATA standard), and therefore results in very very poor performance. Interesting. How do I know if a given SSD will hang on discard? Is a Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSD latest hardware enough, or not? :) smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. I'm not sure I'm seeing this, which field is that? === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1TB Serial Number:S1D9NEAD934600N LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 85009a8ff Firmware Version: EXT0BB0Q User Capacity:1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4c Local Time is:Thu Mar 13 22:15:14 2014 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled After ATA Version for me. $ smartctl -a /dev/disk0 smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-apple-darwin12.3.0] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Samsung based SSDs Device Model: SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series Serial Number:S0Z4NEAC933856 LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 043584d30 Firmware Version: CXM03B1Q User Capacity:256,060,514,304 bytes [256 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate:Solid State Device Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-2 T13/2015-D revision 2 SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is:Fri Mar 14 15:37:07 2014 MDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled The Samsung hardware by and large is fairly well behaved with discard in my experience. But it does really depend a lot on the workload. I'd notice occasional random freezes for a couple of seconds when I had it enabled in OS X (totally different animal from the kernel up), nothing severe. But it was annoying enough I disabled it, and the problem went away. Apple doesn't enable trim by default on non-Apple SSD's still, so the idea that everyone else is doing this isn't true. The Windows implementation is rather complex, and also isn't always used contrary to what's been reported (on the everybody panic or get mad NOW type web sites). If you want to be conservative about it, I'd say just manually run fstrim when the system is idle. Do that once a week or two. Chron job it if you want. Chris Murphy-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:33:24 PM Chris Samuel wrote: I *think* you want smartctl -i instead, and look for the field that says something like: ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS, ACS-2 T13/2015-D revision 3 Late night, cut and pasted the wrong line of output, mine says: SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Of course that's what the drive is reporting it supports, I'm not sure whether that's the result of what has been negotiated between the controller and drive or purely what the drive supports. To get more information from smartctl you can use the --identify=wb option instead of -i and that should give you a lot more detail about what then drives claims to (and not to) support. On the version in Kubuntu 13.10 (6.1+svn3812-1) it only reports 3 things regarding TRIM for my drives. chris@quad:/tmp$ sudo smartctl --identify=wb -d sat /dev/sdb | egrep -i 'trim| discard' 69 14 1 Deterministic data after trim supported 69 5 0 Trimmed LBA range(s) returning zeroed data supported 169 0 1 Trim bit in DATA SET MANAGEMENT command supported I'm currently doing a git clone of their SVN repo to see if there's any new functionality that will gather any more information. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 08:46:09PM +, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:57:41 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: So right now I'm afraid we don't have a good way for a user to determine whether a device supports queued trims or not. Mount with discard, unpack kernel tree, sync, rm -rf tree. If it takes several seconds, you have sync discard, no? Mmmh, interesting point. legolas:/usr/src# time rm -rf linux-3.14-rc5 real0m1.584s user0m0.008s sys 0m1.524s I remounted my FS with remount,nodiscard, and the time was the same. This changed somewhere around kernel 3.8.x; before that it used to be acceptably fast. Since then I only do batch trims, daily (server) or weekly (laptop). I'm never really timed this before. Is it supposed to be faster than 1.5s on a fast SSD? Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:33:50AM +, Hugo Mills wrote: discard is, except on the very latest hardware, a synchronous command (it's a limitation of the SATA standard), and therefore results in very very poor performance. Interesting. How do I know if a given SSD will hang on discard? Is a Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSD latest hardware enough, or not? :) smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. Chris Murphy-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-btrfs in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: discard synchronous on most SSDs?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:39:02PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:33:50AM +, Hugo Mills wrote: discard is, except on the very latest hardware, a synchronous command (it's a limitation of the SATA standard), and therefore results in very very poor performance. Interesting. How do I know if a given SSD will hang on discard? Is a Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSD latest hardware enough, or not? :) smartctl -a or -x will tell you what SATA revision is in place. The queued trim support is in SATA Rev 3.1. I'm not certain if this requires only the drive to support that revision level, or both controller and drive. I'm not sure I'm seeing this, which field is that? === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1TB Serial Number:S1D9NEAD934600N LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 85009a8ff Firmware Version: EXT0BB0Q User Capacity:1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4c Local Time is:Thu Mar 13 22:15:14 2014 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection:(15000) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x53) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. No Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:( 250) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGSVALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 010-0 9 Power_On_Hours -O--CK 099 099 000-2219 12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 099 099 000-659 177 Wear_Leveling_Count PO--C- 099 099 000-3 179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot PO--C- 100 100 010-0 181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total -O--CK 100 100 010-0 182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total -O--CK 100 100 010-0 183 Runtime_Bad_Block PO--C- 100 100 010-0 187 Reported_Uncorrect -O--CK 100 100 000-0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel -O--CK 054 041 000-46 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered -O-RC- 200 200 000-0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count-OSRCK 100 100 000-0 235 Unknown_Attribute -O--C- 099 099 000-35 241 Total_LBAs_Written -O--CK 099 099 000-12186944165 ||_ K auto-keep |__ C event count ___ R error rate ||| S speed/performance ||_ O updated online |__ P prefailure warning -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe