Re: root backup-reformat-restore

2016-11-18 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:06:22AM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:
> On 18.11.2016 02:52, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:38:25AM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:
> >>The FAQ says that "the best solution for small devices (under about
> >>16 GB) is to reformat the FS with the --mixed option to mkfs.btrfs".
> >>
> >>OK. Does anyone have any good suggestions for doing that with an
> >>existing / partition (which has special files and whatnot)?
> >>
> >>I assume a backup-restore cycle is needed, but with which program(s)?
> >  - If you don't have (or don't care about) any snapshots, then
> > - if you can mount both the old and the new FS at the same time
> >- mv
> 
> It's the same partition, so I probably won't have the new FS there
> at the same time.
> 
> > - else, if you want to replace the old FS with the new
> >- tar to a file elsewhere, and untar later
> 
> Can tar really preserve all special files' attributes? (I have
> separate partitions for /boot and /home, but the rest is in /)

   Yes, I've used it for moving / to a different machine before. Take
a look through the options and pick all the ones that look like
they're dealing with attributes. :)

   Hugo.

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Re: root backup-reformat-restore

2016-11-17 Thread Marcus Sundman

On 18.11.2016 02:52, Hugo Mills wrote:

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:38:25AM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:

The FAQ says that "the best solution for small devices (under about
16 GB) is to reformat the FS with the --mixed option to mkfs.btrfs".

OK. Does anyone have any good suggestions for doing that with an
existing / partition (which has special files and whatnot)?

I assume a backup-restore cycle is needed, but with which program(s)?

  - If you don't have (or don't care about) any snapshots, then
 - if you can mount both the old and the new FS at the same time
- mv


It's the same partition, so I probably won't have the new FS there at 
the same time.



 - else, if you want to replace the old FS with the new
- tar to a file elsewhere, and untar later


Can tar really preserve all special files' attributes? (I have separate 
partitions for /boot and /home, but the rest is in /)


Thanks!
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Re: root backup-reformat-restore

2016-11-17 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:38:25AM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:
> The FAQ says that "the best solution for small devices (under about
> 16 GB) is to reformat the FS with the --mixed option to mkfs.btrfs".
> 
> OK. Does anyone have any good suggestions for doing that with an
> existing / partition (which has special files and whatnot)?
> 
> I assume a backup-restore cycle is needed, but with which program(s)?

 - If you don't have (or don't care about) any snapshots, then
- if you can mount both the old and the new FS at the same time
   - mv
- else, if you want to replace the old FS with the new
   - tar to a file elsewhere, and untar later
 - else, if you care about the snapshots
- if you don't care about continuing btrfs send/receive backups to
  somewhere else
  - btrfs send/receive with -c (*)
- if you want to continue using btrfs send -p incremental backups after
  the migration
   - cry, because you can't

(*) For subvols S1, S2, S3, ...: btrfs send S1; btrfs send -c S1 S2;
btrfs send -c S1 -c S2 S3; btrfs send -c S1 -c S2 -c S3 S4; etc...

   Hugo.

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root backup-reformat-restore

2016-11-17 Thread Marcus Sundman
The FAQ says that "the best solution for small devices (under about 16 
GB) is to reformat the FS with the --mixed option to mkfs.btrfs".


OK. Does anyone have any good suggestions for doing that with an 
existing / partition (which has special files and whatnot)?


I assume a backup-restore cycle is needed, but with which program(s)?

Thanks!

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