[linux-delhi] Anyone with a Mandrake CD?

2000-04-05 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Can anyone lend a copy of mandrake?  Or any other Distrib which will take
care of "fips" in the install process?  A cousin who is a Oracle DB wants to
try this at home.

Thanks,

-Original Message-
From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:26 AM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Change of address


Ignore this if you don't know me.

I'm leaving SGI (today is my last working day here).  Hopefully after
this I'll be able to devote more time to the Linux Community... I may
even start reading the messages on the list and responding to them :-)

Please direct any personal messages to:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

-- Raju





Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- More stuff

2000-03-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

VK,

Back again, as I plumb alternatives.  How critical is the fact that B.B.B.1
know client address?

You can use Squid's Web Accel mode on A.A.A.A, although this will give a
different looking URL for the client.

You can use the redir (also called tcp-redir) package as well; this runs out
of inetd.conf:

redir B.B.B.1 80 80

Enough options?  I assume that there will NOT be a webserver on A.A.A.A, of
course.

--
Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux delhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www


 Situation

 Router Machine:
 A.A.A.A  IP address of external NIC on eth0
 B.B.B.5 IP address of internal NIC on eth1

 I have a working internal to external ipchains setup by the following
 command:

 ipchains -A forward -s B.B.B.0/24 -i eth0 -j MASQ

 Problem

 I would like to "guide"  incoming www packets from the external network
 on eth0 to a http server on the internal network whose IP address is
 B.B.B.1.

 Any suggestions ??


 Krishnan







Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www

2000-03-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

VK,

You cheated ;-)  The whole idea is _not_ to have to maintain a miiror site.

-Original Message-
From: Krishnan Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sanjeev Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]; linux delhi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www




Thanks for the tips. I read through the. OK here is what Ive done
finally, as usual in a hurry.

I anyway wanted to give a scaled down version of my web and ftp to the
external network on eth0. So Ive decided to run a webserver and ftp
process on A.A.A.A itself.

Only collateral is that I'll have to maintain two websites, but since
the updates are not complicated and I need to putout "filtered" info on
A.A.A.A its probably better that I disallow all inward access beyond
A.A.A.A.

The A.A.A.A machine is a Pentium - 90 MHz 32 MB RAM. I had planned it
only as a "router". I'll upgrade it later then so that it handles the
web and ftp traffic better.

warm regards
Krishnan






Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www

2000-03-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

VK,

Try http://www.purplefrog.com/~thoth/netpipes/

The program to run on A.A.A.A is "faucet".  This will listen on eth0:80, and
send all packets to B.B.B.1:80

RPM's available, too.

--
Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux delhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www


 Situation

 Router Machine:
 A.A.A.A  IP address of external NIC on eth0
 B.B.B.5 IP address of internal NIC on eth1

 I have a working internal to external ipchains setup by the following
 command:

 ipchains -A forward -s B.B.B.0/24 -i eth0 -j MASQ

 Problem

 I would like to "guide"  incoming www packets from the external network
 on eth0 to a http server on the internal network whose IP address is
 B.B.B.1.

 Any suggestions ??


 Krishnan







Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www

2000-03-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

VK,

Try http://www.purplefrog.com/~thoth/netpipes/

The program to run on A.A.A.A is "faucet".  This will listen on eth0:80, and
send all packets to B.B.B.1:80

RPM's available, too.

--
Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux delhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www


 Situation

 Router Machine:
 A.A.A.A  IP address of external NIC on eth0
 B.B.B.5 IP address of internal NIC on eth1

 I have a working internal to external ipchains setup by the following
 command:

 ipchains -A forward -s B.B.B.0/24 -i eth0 -j MASQ

 Problem

 I would like to "guide"  incoming www packets from the external network
 on eth0 to a http server on the internal network whose IP address is
 B.B.B.1.

 Any suggestions ??


 Krishnan







Re: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www

2000-03-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

VK

Another program you can use is rinetd, simpler, though I remember not using
it simply because it had a 0.x version number.  But I believe the program is
much more robust, because it does only redirects.

http://www.boutell.com/rinetd/

This should work painlessly.

--
Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux delhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Ipchains- Guiding Incoming www


 Situation

 Router Machine:
 A.A.A.A  IP address of external NIC on eth0
 B.B.B.5 IP address of internal NIC on eth1

 I have a working internal to external ipchains setup by the following
 command:

 ipchains -A forward -s B.B.B.0/24 -i eth0 -j MASQ

 Problem

 I would like to "guide"  incoming www packets from the external network
 on eth0 to a http server on the internal network whose IP address is
 B.B.B.1.

 Any suggestions ??


 Krishnan







Re: [linux-delhi] Linux is Obsolete: Long live the Hurd

2000-03-22 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


- Original Message -
From: Sundeep Holani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello,

 - Original Message -
 From: "Sanjeev Gupta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Which is probably because an applications guy is more interested in
 bash, than he's in Linux. In a world where innovation brings progress, you
 dont want to stop new stuff just because it makes no difference at your
 level. Some day it just might. Moved from 200 MHz to 466 MHz recently, and
 looking at the performance difference it has made on my console, i'm
 regretting the 40,000 bucks. Doesnt mean that i'd want em to stop fighting
 the GHz race.

Sure.  I recently bought a machine, and bought a 433 Celeron.  I figure, I
am doing nothing more
with it than I was with a 486DX2.  Still, I agree that others need PIII's.

 He's talking sense, IMHO.. except that he's pushing minix as the
 masthead of the micro kernel architecture. The debate concerning
Monolithic
 Vs. Micro kernel is interesting, with availability and faster development
 being the only pros Linus could offer over the Microkernel architecture.
 Tanenbaum sounds pathetic defending minix, though. And, i know /nothing/
 about minix whatsoever, and am basing my opinion on what the rest of the
 world says about minix.

OK, so minix is the wrong example, after all, it _is_ 10 years old.  My
point was that I object to
"micrkernel" being the salvation of OSs, as I often hear from recently
converted guys (Babu - dig).

  Debian/Gnu/Hurd, as well as Debian/Gnu/Linux.  However, is
  the Hurd better?  I dont think so.  It is designed to solve a different
  class of problems.  It is designed to implement the "classroom" method
of
 OS
  design.

 I disagree, depending on whether my understanding of that phrase is
the
 same as yours.

It is, I was trying to be sarcastic.

 Linux /is/ a hack, HURD is researched theory being put into
 practice. So if perfectionism is what you mean by the class-room method of
 OS design, i want it. And even though its cost 8 years too many... wont
hurt
 not to write HURD off just yet. In theory, the HURD /design/ is better as
 Linus acknowledges often, so what is any body's problem if they manage to
 iron out the performance overheads, and figure out how they are going to
 manage the complications in the source code, both algorithmic( as in the
 controversial 'ugly' signal/message queues), and
 administrative (as in effectively managing the CVS tree).

8 years is not the problem, the issue I have is that I want to see an
implementation, NOW!!!  I ahve
waited long enough, dammit!

  RMS is right in wanting the Linux community to give credit to GNU, as
 debian
  does.

 I disagree. Maybe i should know better, but i have never seen RMS give
 Linux the credit it deserves for GNU's success.

Point.

And the way GNU's following
 the upside
 down model of development, which i only learnt from babu, and the way the
 HURD kernel gets delayed like no winduhs ever did, i wonder what GNU would
 be doing if it hadnt Linux. Sure isnt much fun releasing a GNU software
for
 SCO or Solaris. And it doesnt hurt to have a GNU/Linux, so long as RMS
 doesnt atleast mind giving Linux its due credit. And besides, is
everything
 GPL'ed going to be branded GNU? Did Raju write a GNU/Lynx-HOWTO ?? Dont we
 give GNU its due credit when we use 'g'cc and 'g'db and 'g'awk and the
whole
 lot of 'g' things?

See, we agree.  The hurd will be great, it will be manna from heaven, the
angels will sing, but the crucial word is _will_.

PS:  Is the list lying low, or is it just me?




[linux-delhi] Linux is Obsolete: Long live the Hurd

2000-03-19 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

This is meant to provoke a discussion, re: Babu's report yesterday on Hurd.
As such, assume I am a Linux fanatic who hates Hurd.

1New Mach Microkernel.  HA!!!.  I am not a CS graduate, but I clearly
remember working on OS implementations of Mach Microkernels in the late
eighties, probably 1988/89.  To an applications guy, this felt no different
from any other Unix OS.  The Mach itself is not new, although newer,
improved versions may be available.  I believe NeXT used a Mach microkernel
(1989?)

2Monolithic vs Microkernel.  I can say a lot, none of which has much
value, never having done kernel development myself.  I leave you to:

 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/appa.html

The complete text of the "war" between Linus and Tanenbaum on Micro vs
Monolithic.  For those who came in late, Tanenbaum is the "God" of OS
design, Networks, etc.  Linus is a guy who works for Transmeta, but did not
have a job at that time.  And what time was it?  1992.  Yes, 1992.

Read the debate.  Please.  If you need a shorter text, with only the
"relevent" parts in:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~perrone/oldsite/feud.html


The Hurd is good, and as a debian guy, I am working towards it.  Soon,
Debian will offer
Debian/Gnu/Hurd, as well as Debian/Gnu/Linux.  However, is
the Hurd better?  I dont think so.  It is designed to solve a different
class of problems.  It is designed to implement the "classroom" method of OS
design.  It is designed to give us a choice.  Ultimately, I think there is
no best.

RMS is right in wanting the Linux community to give credit to GNU, as debian
does.  On most other issues he raises, I personally find him to extreme for
my taste.  I am indebted to him for providing the (lonely) leadership during
the first dozen years of the FSF.  It however does him no credit if I cannot
disagree with him.

Feel free to flame.  To repeat, it does our leaders no credit to have sheep
as followers.

-- Ghane




Re: [linux-delhi] Re: [O.T.] RKA's point.

2000-03-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Hey, I want a fight with you, too. ;-)

- Original Message -
From: Rajkumar Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 11:38 AM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Re: [O.T.] RKA's point.


 a) Agreed!
 b) If the next meet is at Dilli Haat then I will treat Supreet (am I
right?)
 to a plate of momos and a mug of fruit beer [I love the combination].  If
you
 want something else I will still sponsor it -- just to show there is
really
 nothing personal in all this.
 RKA




Re: [linux-delhi] Venue??

2000-03-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

I beg your pardon?  What is the big deal about a elephant?  A lot like a
mouse, only the tail is shorter and the nose longer.


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Venue??



 whats the big deal bout BSD i installed it long back it is much like
 slackware execpt for fdisk which is weird




[linux-delhi] Re: Digest Mode

2000-03-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Yes, digest mode should be doable, but ...

In a digest you get much the same amount of traffic.  Plus think of all
those people who would quote a digest and say "Me too".

Why not ask people to filter mail based on subject into a folder, and read
the folder once a week?

- Original Message -
From: Ajit Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:03 PM


 dear linux-delhi community

 i notice that some of our subscribers are signing off due to too much
 traffic. is it possible to have two modes of subscription? one is the
 current one, and the other is subscription to a capsule or in digest
 form?  so the latter is generated only once a week and once receives
 only four emails a month. of course the disadvantage is that one loses
 the impromptu nature and the possibility of getting quick answers to
 queries.  but then people who need quick answers could choose to
 subscribe to mode 1 (the current one) and not to mode 2 (the digest).

 raj, comment?

 -ajit ranade




Re: [linux-delhi] Kernel patch-File level security

2000-03-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Mani,

I dont recall this, but what do you mean "file level security"?

Unix ships with this, (chmod).  Or are you looking for "attributes"?  The
ext2fs supports this (not the kernel, directly),

man chattr
man lsattr

Or are you looking for "capabilities"?  This is in development.  Discuss
next meet, maybe?


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:37 AM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Kernel patch-File level security


 Anybody knows where I can Find the kernel patch that will allow me to use
 file level security in Linux?
 Ghane mentioned that he knew of such a patch (at /dev/null).

 Ghane can you give the url where I can find this?

 Regards
 --MANI




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Re: [linux-delhi] Re:Suggestions for 19th meet

2000-03-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


I haven't taked to them yet, and may be out of town for some time.  Will
let you know tomorrow.



On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Yep wrote:

 Yes, Momentum at Chirag Delhi is perfect for most of us. But Pizza
 sponsoring? ;-)
 
 Jeff
 
 PS: What agendas are we going  to have for the meet? Are we going to have a
 demo of FreeBSD etc.?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:08 AM
  What's in Chirag Delhi? I think I am missing something here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sanjeev Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 10:57 AM
  Momentum?  Chirag Delhi?
 
 
 
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] Shell scripting

2000-03-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for i in `cat filename`
 do
 ..
 done
 
 will do

Oh no, it wont.  Remember, "filename" contains the output of "ls -l".
That's why he wants "cut".


Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  It is not the passing away of the ideals of our youth, 
but our youth itself



Re: [linux-delhi] Shell scripting

2000-03-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for i in `ls`
 do
 curl -T $i ftp://x.y.z.a./directory/$i
 done

AGH!!!

Most common mistake I have seen in shell programming.

Use 
for i in *

Why force a ls?


Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  It is not the passing away of the ideals of our youth, 
but our youth itself



[linux-delhi] Debian Added to Compaq Test Drive Program

2000-03-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta



The Compaq Testdrive program has recently added Debian's frozen GNU/Linux 
distribution, potato (aka, Debian 2.2) to the list of systems available 
for use. 

Compaq is now making testdrives available via the Internet for the Open 
Source community. This is a program that lets users world-wide get a 
shell account, free of charge, for development and testing purposes. 

By registering for a shell account at http://www.testdrive.compaq.com 
developers can evaluate the Debian distributions running on Compaq 
AlphaServers and ProLiant Servers.  Current Debian systems are: 
AlphaServer DS20 (ev6), AlphaServer XP1000a(ev6.7), and ProLiant 
5500 (x86 PIII). All systems have at least two (2) gigs of ram and as 
much as 100 gigs of "/home" storage courtesy of a network file system. 

The AlphaServers have the latest Compaq optimized FORTRAN compilers as 
well as the GNU tools installed. 
  
These machines provide an excellent means  for interested parties to 
try out the Debian distribution. In addition, they provide valuable 
uptime and stability statistics on newer hardware that can be used to 
isolate and correct potential problems on new architectures. These 
machines should not be used for benchmarking purposes as at any given 
time there are numerous users working on them. 

Debian whishes to thank all of the contributors of the system, especially 
Michael Waite (Compaq), and David Huggins-Daines, Christian Meder,
and Christopher C. Chimelis  (all of Debian) for their hard work in
configuring and administering these resources.
  
 About Debian: 
  
The Debian project is an organization of many users who volunteer their 
time and effort.  It's tasks include maintaining and updating Debian 
GNU/Linux which is a free distribution of the GNU/Linux operating system, 
and the development of the Debian GNU/Hurd operating system. 
  
Contact information: 

For more information about the Compaq Testdrive program, 
please visit the homepage at http://www.testdrive.compaq.com 

For further information, please send mail to the Debian Press Team 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit the Debian homepage at http://www.debian.org 




Re: [linux-delhi] [off topic] Internet over Cable !?!

2000-03-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


But with a Cable ISP, you use a PC.  You are probably confusing this with
WebTV

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 what I meant to ask was .. wont the text have to be much bigger in size ? How
 can the text from a webpage be "automatically" scaled so that it is readable on
 a TV screen ? I am assuming that u are reading text and not browsing just for
 graphics ;-)
 
 -Aditya
 
 
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 10:43:53 AM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Aditya Kumar/HSS)
 
 Subject:  Re: [linux-delhi] [off topic] Internet over Cable !?!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 where does the resolution of TV come from for the internet. Those two work
 independently . Though appropriate care is taken that the signals of one dont
 pollute the other.
 
 Cheers
 KRK
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Eurolink Systems LtdFax: +91(11) 6943732
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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux questions.

2000-03-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Ganesh M wrote:

   Can I get some 50 objective type questions on
 linux?

No.  Can I?  ;-)

   Mani, just recompiling the kernel will not solve the FTP
 problem.  Because the same problem I am facing with windows
 also.

This is not a filesystem problem, at all.  at all.  at all.

   The question again for your kind attention:-
 
   Why the FTP from sco is not functioning if the file is
 more than 17K?  But the FTP to sco is absolutely no problem.

Please check the "driver" for your network card.  Call me with more info.


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[linux-delhi] A Hub, please

2000-03-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Will the S(u|a)nd(ee|i)p who was organising Troika call me? 

Regards,


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Eurolink Systems LtdFax: +91(11) 6943732
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Re: [linux-delhi] Re:Suggestions for 19th meet

2000-03-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, ANMOL KHIRBAT wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Raj Mathur wrote:
  We'll carpool if necessary, though I must admit that having the meet
  at SGI looks a bit more remote today.  Alternate venues would be
  welcome.
 
 "Remote" as in "far away" ? 

No, "remote" as in "a mote again" ;-)


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Re: [linux-delhi] potato (debian question)

2000-03-06 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Ajit Ranade wrote:

 i have been trying to download potato (kernel 2.2 of debian) for the
 past three days. am getting closer to the end, asymptotically! some
 questions-
 
 (a) my machine says it needs to get 261 mb of archives and after
 unpacking 103 mb will be used. i thought usually after unpacking
 the size would be higher, not lower. how's that?

Download:   261
Unpack: 500+
Install new version:700
Uninstall old ver:  -550
Clean Downloaded:   -500+

Net increase103MB (balances.  declared)

 (b) machine says the following packages will be removed- timezones,
 xproc, lynx, python-net, slrn, libreadlineg2-dev,
 libstdc++2.9-dev, etc etc. why is it going to REMOVE lynx, slrn
 etc? it does not assure me that newer versions are going to be
 REPLACED. it just says it will remove. huh?

Check if lynx is selected in dselect

 (c) "apt-get -d dist-upgrade" which dowloads only the entire archive
 gets connection timed out several times. is that something to
 worry about?

No.  Normal.

 (d) potato/security, potato/non-us is not on the canonical sites. are
 these not ready yet? i need non-us for ssh, pgp and xpdf packages.

Will get back


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Re: [linux-delhi] memory size of emacs

2000-02-13 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Vardhan Varma wrote:

  one of the big excuse for not using emacs is it takes lot of memory.
   One of the excuse is, backspace key is generally bound to 
   help !!, and poor user in her humble request to delete a character
   is forced to see help instead (-;

See, this problem is self-limiting!

  One of the most popular vi clone vim uses a lot itself though it provides
   vim has become of a bloatware ( like emacs itself ...).
   there are thinner clones like elvis etc, ( which are also becomming
   bloatware. i think it boils to, a editors bloats till is can read
   mails ).

Said of all MIT software.  "A program expands till it includes a mail
reader".


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Re: [linux-delhi] LaTeX Q

2000-02-13 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Latex user here.  Rusty, but usedto be a heavy user 2 years ago.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 Any ppl who use LaTeX regularly? I got a couple of Q to ask, which I
 guess I should rather ask personally.
 
 - Sandip
 -- 
 Sandip Bhattacharya
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [linux-delhi] Procmail issue...

2000-02-08 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Ganesh,

I don't use procmail myself, but one way that I had helped Ganajyoti
(remember him?) set it up was to put a

:c

in each rule.  In case of a match, this makes a "copy", and falls through
to the next pattern as well.  The "catchall" account at the end will end
up getting a copy of all mail too.  If this works, I can dredge up a
work-around for this problem, too.


On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Ganesh M wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In my previous mail I missed something.  Sorry.  This is
 the corrected e-mail.
 
 I 'm using fetchmail and procmail to fetch e-mail from
 our pop3 server.  We have unlimited e-mail aliases in the
 pop3 server. Locally I 've created all the ids and managing
 with the procmail and fetchmail.
 
My only problem is, if an outsider send an e-mail to more
 than one person locally using TO or CC or BCC the second
 person is not getting the e-mail.  Is there any way to
 tackle the problem?
 
 I 'm using this syntax/option in procmail.
 
 :0
 * ^TOuser
 ! user
 
 
 
 TIA
 Ganesh
 
 
 


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RE: [linux-delhi] linux hosting on Indian servers

2000-02-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Because you are closer?  And you may be confusing bandwidth with latency.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could it because of Linux's Limitation with SMP?
 I heard that Linux on a single processor performs better than SMP's.
 
 MANI
 
 I have worked with linux servers (on high end machines with redundant
 T3 connections) located in USA, and found their speed to be significantly
 lower compared to P2s linux servers connected with 64 Kbps in
 India.
 Regards
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] Global environment variable

2000-02-04 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


vi /etc/profile

Will work unless people explicitly reset in their .profile

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, asif ansari wrote:

 Hi Everybody
 
 I want to assign a new PATH definition to every user
 existing in redhat linux 6.1( i.e. a global
 environment variable)
 
 If you know, please tell me.
 
 Thanks 
 
 Asif
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Re: [linux-delhi] checking multiple POP accounts

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


fetchmail?

On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Vipul Mathur wrote:

 Hi ppl
 
 I'm in the process of exterminating the Windoze virus from my PC. One of the
 reasons that its still there is that I use Outlook Express for checking
 multiple POP accounts. Is there some way I can do the same in Linux?
 
 All I really want is some way that I can check multiple POP accounts for
 mail. GUI interface is NOT a priority, plain ol' shell would do just fine
 ;-)
 
 Suggestions?
 
   Cheerio!
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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux for Leased Line Connection

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ganesh M wrote:

  Sounds good to me.  You can use the LRP (Linux Router Project) stuff
  to make a Linux Router for your connection.  You'll need a V.35 card
  in your Linux box to connect to the line driver.  You will also
 
 I hope the ISP, who is providing the leased line will give
 me this.  I 've no clue about these.

No, this will not be provided by the ISP.  I bought one in US last Oct for
$650.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux for Leased Line Connection

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ajit Ranade wrote:

 
Sounds good to me.  You can use the LRP (Linux Router
Project) stuff to make a Linux Router for your connection.
You'll need a V.35 card in your Linux box to connect to the
line driver.  You will also
 
  I hope the ISP, who is providing the leased line will give me
  this.  I 've no clue about these.
 
 SG No, this will not be provided by the ISP.  I bought one in US
 SG last Oct for $650.
 
 650 for the card? that sounds too high, or was it a typo?
 as i said in my earlier email, i thought a 486 linunx box router would
 be 15k rupees plus a cable which is rs232 serial on one side and v.35
 on the other; this one costs 2k rupees. the modem (tellabs or rad) is
 provided by vsnl.

Modem (actually a Rate Convertor or so) will be provided by ISP.  I am not
aware of a V.35 - RS.232 cable, as I see it, this will have to have
active components, the V.35 being sync, and RS/232 being async.  I may be
wrong here ...

 i may be wrong! maybe you need a cable which is v.35 on one side and
 something else on the other? or maybe it's best to have a machine with
 two ethernet cards (much less expensive than 650$) and plug in the
 v.35 cable into the ethernet port of one, and use the other card for
 the internal lan.

... but here I am not.  This gets worse.  A V.35 - 10baseT will not be a
cable, but a box. It has to do protocol conversions at multiple levels. 
Much like a EtherNet - Print Server. 

 i am out of my depth here. ghane help!

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Re: [linux-delhi] Firewall on Linux

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 I wonder how you can configure squid and wwwoffle on the same machine
 and get the best of both worldsboth of them require direct Net
 access, right?

direct?  As in non-IPmasq?  Or as in online?  wwwoffle is designed for
intermitently connected hosts.  Squid DEMANDS infrastructure in place.
Please note that squid is a high-end product, to get the most of it you
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Re: [linux-delhi] Firewall on Linux

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Sandip,

If you are connected to the Net at all times that you will browse, squid
alone is sufficient and ideal.

I am not yet clear what you are trying to mix and match in the feature
lists of squid  wwwoflle.  Just to confuse matters, apache has a decent
proxy as well, which allows URL re-writing: http://www.yourhost.com/ghane
-- http://www.ghane.com/welcome/

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
 
  direct?  As in non-IPmasq?  Or as in online?  wwwoffle is designed for
  intermitently connected hosts.  Squid DEMANDS infrastructure in place.
  Please note that squid is a high-end product, to get the most of it you
  have to give it resources:  lots of RAM, low latenccy network, etc
 
 I meant, supposed I want a cached proxy like wwwoffle, with the
 robustness of squid and the security too for my organisation. So how can
 I get them both working on the same machine. Assume that I am not using
 IP-masq for some weird reason.


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Re: [linux-delhi] leafnode Q

2000-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


No problem.  I have some 7 in my list, and some are specific ones:
forums.inprise.com  Inprise (Delphi/Interbase)
devforums.novell.comNovell (for NDS newsgroups)
starnews.sun.com(Staroffice)
newsgroups.intel.com(Intel, don't remember why)

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 Can I use leafnode, to get different newsgroups from multiple servers.
 From the docs it seems that you can at most have a supplemental news
 server. But what happens if this server has some newsgroups which the
 main server doesn't?
 
 - Sandip
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] M$ has done it again

2000-02-01 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


There used to be "hotmole".  Due to repeated changes in the structure of
the web pages Hotmail returns, the author was releasing a new copy every
week.  Around June last year, he gave up.

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Vardhan Varma wrote:

   There used to be a set of perl scripts floating around
 for downloading hotmail mails using wget, and delivering them
 to your $MAIL. Though i've never used it




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Re: [linux-delhi] RAS

2000-02-01 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


RAS, as in dial in and PPP?  mgetty works very well.

On Tue, 1 Feb 100, Atul Kumar wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is it possible to set up a RAS server on Linux? We run a RedHat 6.1 file server that 
we'd like to use for RAS. I can't find any documentation on it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Atul Kumar
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Re: [linux-delhi] M$ has done it again

2000-02-01 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, M.P Anand Babu wrote:

 There is no trick in this. If you want I can write POP3 interface to
 any web based email account.
 Outlook uses HTTP to connect to hotmail and not POP3. Try telnetting to
 port 80, It will work.
 The idea behind POP3 interface for a web based account is
 this
 
 POP3 Client   =  POP3 To HTTP Bridge  = HTTP Server(Hotmail)  = POP3
 Server (Hotmail)
 
 All you need to find is the HTTP equivalent requests for POP3 requests.

The critical word is "all".  I am not sure, looking at the proxy logs,
that this is trivial.  Especially as there seems to be 2 POST requests,
too.  Reverse engineering is an art.  If you, or other on the list, have
experience in this, this could be fascinating.  I would not, however,
categorize this as easy. 

 Finding this is also easy. Put a proxy server in between and trace the
 requests generated by webbrowser. That is all.
 
 But the problem is, Why should I spend time in helping M$ users to get
 their mails quickly
 --abnix

Because Sandip asks?  The idea is not to help or hurt MS, but help a
collegue.  I hate MS as much as the next guy, but ultimately, what works
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Re: [linux-delhi] Passive FTP mode

2000-01-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The other and usual way is that the client sends a PORT command and asks
 the server to initiate the data connection. 
 
 Its much simpler  for the firewall admin if you  use passive mode
 when behind a firewall coz it it wont require special arrangements on the
 firewall to allow inbound connections.

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Re: [linux-delhi] linux-delhi site, addendum

2000-01-24 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Raj Mathur wrote:

 The site looks fine on Lynx, so no issues there.  One more request,
 though.  Can we remove the funky moving Javascript from the status
 line?  I prefer to see what URL my mouse is pointing to, and the value 
 add of the moving letters is not worth losing that functionality, IMO.

ditto.  Please.


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Re: [linux-delhi] lpd problem

2000-01-21 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Neil wrote:

 well i just got a printer...actually i 2k my bros printer...

Bure kaam ka bura natija ;-)


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Re: [linux-delhi] Serial problems...

2000-01-21 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


cat /proc/interrupts
cat /proc/ioports

should give some idea of wether the port is known 

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 I seem to have have run into a problem after upgrading my motherboard.
 Setserial has been unable to detect my UART. The motherboard manual says
 that it's UART compatible  Not very specific. Is there any way to find
 out what is the port like?? I have tried fixing the serial port address/irq
 instead of letting it be at auto, but no help. I have even tried wvdialconf
 as suggested in the Modem-HOWTO, but it had been unable to detect the modem.
 When the computer is booted, the modem lights do flash, but then it settles
 down to a CTS signal. Minicom has not been able to connect to it. The
 motherboard is a VIA chipset one called the tomato board. It is model number
 TX-100 , a100mhz one...
 
 Any thing I missed up? Or do I chuck it up and go in for a different
 motherboard...
 
 - Sandip
 
 


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[linux-delhi] Any knows anything about Compaq Presario and Linux

2000-01-21 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

The Compaq Presario 100c at
http://www.compaq.com/india/showroom/desktophm/Presario100c.html

Any idea if the specs will run Linux?  What card, etc?  No info at India
site, and the US site has no 100c listed.




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Re: [linux-delhi] Any knows anything about Compaq Presario and Linux

2000-01-21 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


I found out it has a SIS 620 2X AGP card, shared memory.

Any ideas?


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 The most common problem which I have come across with regard to COmpaq
 machines
 and particularly presarios is that they come with a Win-Modem. There might
 be other problems also
 but this one was an oft-repeated one.
 HTH
  Khader
 
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 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject:  [linux-delhi] Any knows anything about Compaq Presario and Linux
 
 
 
 
 Folks,
 
 The Compaq Presario 100c at
 http://www.compaq.com/india/showroom/desktophm/Presario100c.html
 
 Any idea if the specs will run Linux?  What card, etc?  No info at India
 site, and the US site has no 100c listed.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] How do enable Newsgroup Access ?

2000-01-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Prashast,

Either www.deja.com , and read there.
Or you have to setup a news server (easy), and get a news feed (harder).



On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Prashast Kumar wrote:

 Dear All,
 
   I have an RH 6.1 server with Squid acting as a proxy + mail server for
 a small workgroup. Users want to access their favourite newsgroups. How
 do enable this ?
 
 -- 
 Prashast Kumar
 ICO
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Re: [linux-delhi] where can i find wwwofle??

2000-01-19 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


WWWOFFLE Home page
http://apps.freshmeat.net/homepage/889209573/
and at freshmeat
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/03/06/889209573.html

Current version in 2.5.  RPMs and .debs are available.


On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Neil wrote:

 hey ghane.. u just told me the s/w and now im havn a tuf time trying 2
 find the s/w... wwwofle is not available at linux.box... nor at
 linuxapps...nor at linuxpowered... where can i get it???
 
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] This month's meet

2000-01-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


1k was sufficient, and Sunil of Momentum was there to draw;-)

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Raj Mathur wrote:

 1K sounds reasonable, though it may be preferable to have them present 
 with a quick draw on the wallet :-)
 
 BTW, recent developments in office lead me to suspect that I might
 have to be in Mumbai on Sunday, and may consequently miss the meet.
 Carry on, folks.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- Raju
 
  "Sanjeev" == Sanjeev Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sanjeev Folk's, Re: Delhi Haat, Momentum is willing to sponsor
 Sanjeev eats.  What should I ask them for?  1k?  More?
 
 Sanjeev 

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Re: [linux-delhi] How did it go?

2000-01-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Raj,

There were 20 odd people, Suman, Leo, VK, and, of course, our "frame"d
Neil.  The entire thing was quite informal.  Junta talked squid, VSNL,
news feeds, telcom over copper, and Envision2000.

Chai and snacks courtsy the guys who don't know we are going to ask for
beer.

We need to do something about Envision.  There is a 200-seater that we
have to fill at DoE, and Troika has a 1L budget.  We have pushed them into
Linux, now we need to do something more than just an InstallFest.  Ideas,
please.

We need to move toward a more structured, presentation-oriented, session.
In Raju's absence, I have asked VK to talk, formally, on something.  Pai
will present "How to work with Postgress".  I will arrange Hardware, etc.
This is not to regiment the meet, but we need to move on from chai and
introductions.  Else we will gain 5 new users, and lose 5, each time.  The
step towards incorporating into Linux India should help, too.

Raju, you have the emails of people at the first Delhi Haat meet, last
year.  Perhaps some feedback from those who have dropped out would be
useful?

Please post back what you think about this.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Raj Mathur wrote:

 How'd the meet go?  Any earth-shaking (or even minor) items of
 interest?


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Re: [linux-delhi] Re: IE5 and net with linux

2000-01-12 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


There is a IE4 for Solaris.  HTH


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[linux-delhi] Please read this

2000-01-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Mails from bol.net.in _will_continue, till Raju unsubscribes the address.
Please stay calm, and do NOT post to the list (this is an exception, to
forestall others).

If anyone knows Raju's number, give him a call.  I persume he is not in
office.  Suman, do you have the password? 

Stay calm.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Sybase for Linux

2000-01-05 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Suman,

Just got a CD Writer, so will cut a dump of sybase-ase-11.0.3.3-1.i386.rpm
, if I can spare half-an-hour.  Please bug me tomorrow.


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Suman Saraf wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 I need a Sybase for Linux CD for a day or two. Can anyone spare it ? I
 have been ditched by a fellow who promised to lend me the CD :-(
 
 Iam at Hughes, Electronic City, Gurgaon, the closer the person the better
 :)
 
 Kishore/Raj : Do you have it ?
 
 Regards,
 Suman
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] Most linux-friendly in Noida/Delhi

2000-01-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Vardhan Varma wrote:

   we've VSNL,MTNL,Satyam,ETN, Net?? etc.,
   and some noida specific opto-something...

OPTO Network.  Their upstream is STP, Noida.  Very good access, fast
connects.  But they have IP masq running, so you can't run servers.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Module dependencies problem

1999-12-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Bring it along to the next LUG meet.  Things like these are hard to track
down remotely.

BTW, we have a sponsor for food etc for the next meet, Delhi Haat or
elsewhere.  Momentum (where we met last time) has offered.

On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Jal Khambata wrote:

 At every booting of Redhat6.1 Linux, I am either dropped to carry out fsck
 or run into problem at checking module dependencies which first says not in
 ELF file and then gives failures on several line before reaching logging
 menu. Even during logging, sometimes it refuses to recognise the logger,
 repeatedly asking log-in name.
 
 I have installed linux on my laptop which is already loaded with windows98.
 After several attempts, the linux starts working fine and hence I presume
 the problem is over until downed with the same problem again. What can be
 going wrong?
 
 Jal
 
 


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[linux-delhi] SETI@home

1999-12-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


A Windowmaker applet for SETI@home statistics:

http://freshmeat.net/news/1999/12/27/946334744.html

Disclaimer:  I don't run the SETI client, and I don't run WindowMaker.


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Re: [linux-delhi] problem with NFS

1999-12-28 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


rpcinfo -p "server_name" 

should yield a line with "nfs", else you have no nfs server running.

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, asif ansari wrote:

 Hi,
 I am facing a problem with NFS.
 On client side it gives an error
 RPC program not registered
 Using redhat 6.0.NFS is installed it shows entries
 in rpcinfo -p
 I have configured /etc/exports and /etc/fstab
 Its working on many M/c,giving problem on a particular
 host.
 Can anyone help.
 Regards.
 Asif.
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] Squid - squid.conf - inetd.conf

1999-12-24 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


On an inside machine:
telnet squid-host 3128 enter
GET / HTTP/1.0enterenter

Post back.

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 I have configured squid to be an HTTP proxy. 
 No caching, no http-acceleration or any other features.
 
 On the inside [the part of the network the world cannot see] I am using
 the default port that squid has specified 3128 to listen to requests.
 This is the deafult in the squid.conf file.
 
 I have inetd.conf listening on 3128 and squid to handle the request.
 This is the line
 squid   stream  tcp nowait.400nobody 
 /usr/local/squid-2.2.STABLE5/bin/squid
 
 
 When I set-up a client browser to use the proxy at 192.8.8.x and port
 3128. The client times out.
 
 Where am I fouling up?

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Re: [linux-delhi] Squid - Inetd

1999-12-23 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


What, what, what?

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 I've done changes the necessary changes to squid.conf. 
 It listens to requests from inside on port 3128
 I've added a line to inetd.conf to listen to 3128.


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Re: [linux-delhi] revisiting rh vs debian

1999-12-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Vardhan Varma wrote:

   When was the last we had a distro war,
   Let's do it once again.

Nyaaah.  That is so _common_.  This time lets have a war on SCSI vs IDE.
;-)


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Re: [linux-delhi] 19th MEET

1999-12-18 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Uh, what's that mean?  I can translate upto something like,
 
   Whoever speaks in Latin...

... seems profound
5 points, Rajesh.

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[linux-delhi] LUG Meet

1999-12-18 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

late breaking info: Momentum is arranging High Tea, too.  Yipee.  

Now to convince McDowell to sponsor Beer ;-)


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[linux-delhi] 19th MEET

1999-12-17 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Unless Raju overrides in 10mins, this is final.

Meet at 2pm, on Sunday 19th.
Address:
3rd Floor
Momentum India
546, Chirag Delhi (the village)
New Delhi -- 17
Tel :6435957, 6291568

Get to Nehru Place.  Head West.  Savitri Cinema.  Head West.  Before
flyover, pull left to run parallel to Outer Ring Road.  Cross major
North-South Road.  Large Park on left.  Keep left, turn when Park gets
over, park vehicle in Park.  In front of the gate is Momentum Office. 
There is a signboard.  This looks like a village (the location, not the
office). 

From Moolchand.  Head South.  After/under Chirag Delhi flyover, take first
left.  Large Park on left. ...

Kishore, if you have been there, please confirm directions.

Facilities: Some PCs.  Networking/UPS etc standard.  We'll try to get
refreshments out of them, as well.  Bring your laptop, if you have one.
We should be able to get some PCs to format at will.  Next time, a
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Re: [linux-delhi] Slackware 7.00 , anyone has it ??

1999-12-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Vardhan Varma wrote:

   Actually i'm looking for Non-Redhar, Kernel 2.2 , and
   i guess there are the only two ..

Debian 2.1.

   Gana, are you still there ??

Gana is in Bombay.  GT CDROM has a dealer in Delhi, they dont seem to be
contactable (at least I couldn't).  Their home page no longer seems to
have Delhi dealer's contact address.

http://www.gtcdrom.com


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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux delhi Site

1999-12-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Raju, stay cool.  Cool.  Please.  Just step back quitely, sit down, relax,
why dont you lie down for a minute, NO, RAJU, NO, PUT THAT DOWN, RAJU
NOO

Neil,
Frames are lovely, frames are great, frames light up my life.

Only problem is, that sites which use frame do not update the URL in the
"Location" field on my browser.  So when I do get to the page which
describes how to meet at users in Delhi, what is the URL I bookmark?  How
do I pass it on?  Frames break the "single URL" - "single view" -
"single document" relationship, that Tim established in prehistoric days.

Regards,

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Neil wrote:

 buddy u just cant declare : frames suck..
 just bcos a prehistoric browser-lynx cant open frames (properly too...
 the new lynx can open each frame separately)  doesnt mean a concept
 sucks..
 frames giv a site structure and a more logical solution 2 opening each
 link  after reloading a whole new page..
 
 
 --dont  critisize a concept  if u cant c the problems it solves..
 
 Raj Mathur wrote:
 
  Frames suck.  Just my $0.02 worth :-)


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Re: [linux-delhi] Frames - usability - Jakob Nielsen

1999-12-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Rajesh, sending HTML mail ;-)  And doing it the hard way, too, I see.

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 EMHis Top 10 donts [revised every few months] invariably mention
 _FRAMES_/EM



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[linux-delhi] This month's meet

1999-12-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Raju,

Momentum India, a Delhi based company, has offered a place, regularly.  It
is Chirag Delhi, under the fly-over.  Seating for 20-odd, and they will
lend a couple of (networked) PCs which we can format/reformat.  We can hit
them for a projector, food, drink, and babes, later ;-).

Momentum is a 6 year old company, which has been selling Linux Solutions
quietly for around a year.  About 40 clients.  Very quiet.  Does hardware
(PCs/Sun), MCSP, sells software, now doing Java stuff.

Please confirm if the list finds this location acceptable.

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 19th is the date of the next Linux-Delhi meet.  We're still looking
 for a venue with adequate space, computers, and a projector.


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Re: [linux-delhi] 486 as printserver

1999-11-29 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Ajit Ranade wrote:

 (a) is it ok to use the 486 for print logging (i.e. no y2k danger)? if
 not, what is the absolutely minimum amount that we need to spend
 to make it y2k compliant? (please don't ask me to upgrade the
 motherboard.) i thought that all the latter day linuxes have a
 phony patch which just replaces "00" with year "2000" and this
 should be good enough for what we need the printserver to do.

Ensure that you recycle the log on 31/12 night.  Start a new log on 1/1
morning.  Should work.  Remember 1/1/2000 is a Saturday, so you should
have time.

 (b) how is this print logging actually to be done? specifically we need
 "who fired the print job" and "how many bytes and pages were
 printed". also would be nice if some users can be barred from
 printing on this printer.

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Re: [linux-delhi] help!! can't configure printer on red hat 6.1

1999-11-29 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Is there a "/dev/lp?" ?

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Mohit Mehrora wrote:

 2.when sending a file for printing giving command ls
 /dev/lp0 or ls /dev/lp1 or ls /dev/lp2 ,it gives
 unknown device.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux installation successfull!

1999-11-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


You win.

-- Sanjeev "Aaj kal ke bache sigh" Gupta

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Shiv Jha Mathur wrote:

 Heh, sorry. Y'see, I don't know too many girls who use a computer.
 And I didn't want to say `kid' and make out that I'm a peer or
 something. :)
 
 A superhero?  Frankly, I don't think a superhero could do it either.
 
 -- Shiv "Glad you're not a superhero" JM
 
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 Sanjeev Sexist!!!  My `son' is actually my daughter. ;-}
 
 Sanjeev Anyone can make fun of Windows, but it takes a real
 Sanjeev superhero to make it do anything useful.
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] mailing from a modem line

1999-11-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Sorry, I don't exactly get your query.

If you need to post from Netscape Messanger, put in as "SMTP host", the
smtp host of the domain that is your return address.  In Delhim the VSNL
hosts also allow relaying, so you can try del2.vsnl.net.in as SMTP host.

HTH


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear All,
   I still don't seem to have got any replies to my query..so I'm asking it
 again..it is:
   How can one mail directly from his netscape mail composer, when the comp. is
 connected to the internet using a dial-up connection through a modem?
 What should I do to set up this mailing facility? (Currently, I use a free
 mailing facility like hotmail on the internet to send my mails!)
   
   I'll be glad if somebody cares to reply!!
 
 Regards,
 Arun.
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] Upgrade to RH 6.1 remotely

1999-11-20 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Raju,

I have done this with a Debian box.  The problem is at the moment that
telnetd (or equiv) is replaced.  You will lose your connection.  If all
goes well, the new telnetd starts, and you can login again and see what is
going on.

Estimate time that the upgrade will take.  Add 30 mins to it.  put in an
`at' job to reboot the machine after that much time.

Look at the dependancies.  If libc and friends are not being upgraded,,
first upgrade the network demons.  _Then_ run your upgrade scripts as you
wish.

Of course, I have never used RedHat, so all this may be irrelevant


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Anyone know if there's anyway to upgrade a RH 6.0 box to 6.1 in a
 system which is located 2500 km away and which I don't have console
 access to?
 
 -- Raju
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - Windows NT - nmblookup

1999-11-17 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 os level=65
 preferred master=no

Change 
os level = 10
preferred master = no

Place a Win95 machine in the same workgroup.  Restart smbd/mnbd.  Observe.

 I believe nmblookup is picking up info from /etc/hosts. Correct me if
 I'm wrong.

Nh.  I don't think so.  I could be wrong.


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Re: [linux-delhi] NIS and other assorted info..

1999-11-17 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Nikhil Datta wrote:

 
 I've setup a NIS/NFS server for my college intranet, with some linux
 workstations logging in. This is my first experiment with NIS/NFS, and I
 have a couple of problems.
 
 The whole setup is working fine, except :
 1) If a user changes his password on the client using yppasswd, it gives all
 the right signals (password changed on server etc.), but logging on from the
 node does not work with the new password. However, the password has actually
 been updated on the server ( ie. I can telnet in with the new password).
 restarting ypserv/ypbind etc does not help. So How do I get the server to
 update the maps on the clients ? (I believe yppush is only for slave
 servers).

Are you running nscd?  This will cache stuff.  I believe caching is done
directly by glibc2.1 as well.

 4) I want to disable the ability to get a root prompt via 'linux single'.
 (RH 6.1). HOWTO ?

add the word
restricted
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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - Observe - Zilch

1999-11-17 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Two more things:
On Linux
nmap `hostname`
see if 139 is open

On Windows in same workgroup
Start-Find-Computer-linux-name

Report

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 Nothing happening.
 
 Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
  Place a Win95 machine in the same workgroup.  Restart smbd/mnbd.  Observe.
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - Windows NT

1999-11-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Rajesh,

1 question:

Are you running nmbd / smbd through inetd or demon mode?


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 
 I've been through http://www.sfu.ca/~yzhang/linux/ and the Samba stuff
 over there.
 
 I am unable to get the Linux machine to show up on the Windows NT
 exploreer.
 
 Any help appreciated.
 TIA
 Rajesh
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - Windows NT - nmblookup

1999-11-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Add a Win95 machine to the same workgroup as the Linux box.  You don't
need to add a machine, just change the workgroup of the Win95, reboot,
wait 3 mins.

Send the values of
os level
preferred master

from smb.conf



On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 Yes it does.
 
 Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
  Does nmblookup `hostname` work on the Linux box?
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux installation successfull!

1999-11-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Show-off ;-)  

My two year old kid can crash Windows.  Is that close enough?

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Shiv Jha Mathur wrote:

 You don't. :)
 
 -- OldMonk^H^H^HShiv JM ;)
 
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  [snip]
 
 Abhijit how do we know you aren't oldmonk in disguise? 8)
 
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Re: [linux-delhi] Linux installation successfull!

1999-11-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


bow background="applause_and_cheers.au"
Yes!!! And no CISCO in the picture.  Just Linux talking to a V.35 Radio
line.
/bow

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Arrrey Bhai, Ghane ka e-mail phirse kaam kar raha hai!
 
 Dancing around the list
 
 :-)  Raju


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Re: [linux-delhi] Not connecting to Net-pppd problem

1999-11-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Add option
-pap -chap
to the pppd command line (on your machine)?

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jeffrey Yep wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was just wondering if anyone got an answer to the mystery why pppd expires
 suddenly after connecting to the net? I'll just repeat the problem for those
 who don't know abt it. I start kppp and dial to Vsnl. Everything is fine I
 give my username and password and the ~ comes and pppd starts and then it
 dies suddenly. Now the ppp-log file gives the following error:-
 
 Nov 11 20:38:14 host pppd[1436]: The remote system is required to
 authenticate itself but I
 Nov 11 20:38:14 host pppd[1436]: couldn't find any suitable secret
 (password) for it to use to do so.
 
 Please could someone find the answer to this. I can't figure it out. Also
 the ppp dialer in the Gnome Internet Menu doesn't dial only for reasons I
 don't know. Hoping to get a reply soon.
 
 Jeff
 
 


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[linux-delhi] Isn't IP Forwarding the default?

1999-10-22 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

I am switching from a CISCo box to Linux as a router, and the Linux box
refuses to forward packets!!

It masqurades, it proxies, it ..., but no forwarding.

/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward has "1" in it.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Re: IP Forwarding

1999-10-22 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

 If possible mail the routing table (don't need the exactIP addresses - can mask
 it). Also do a ifconfig and see whether it is giving any errors for any of the
 devices (highly unlikely).

eth0Local (192.168.x.y) card
eth1"valid" IP card (12.10.198.112/29) card, for mail servers, etc
ets0Card to talk to RF Modem, runs PPP

[ghane@earth:~ netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
12.10.199.610.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0  0 ets0
12.10.198.112   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U  1500 0  0 eth1
192.168.200.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U  1500 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 12.10.199.610.0.0.0 UG 1500 0  0 ets0


 Check /etc/sysconfig/network for the value of FORWARD_IPV4 - it should be "yes"
 or "true".

I think that is RedHat, I use Debian.  What does this parameter do in the
script?

 Also when we use Masquerading and proxy we usually disable IP forwarding - but
 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward seems to say something different who knows..

Yes.  However, I

/sbin/ipfwadm -F -e -p accept


 What are the IP addresses of each card and how did you set up the routing table
 ??? How did you test whether IP forwarding is working or not ???

I have a machine on the "outer" network (12.10.198.x), through which I am
pinging my ISP.  In case forwarding works, I will get a beep.  That setup
is OK, as I get a beep when I masq it.

 Mithun
 -
 Is your routing OK?  What do netstat and tcpdump say about packets
 received and sent?

12.10.198.115 is "earth", the linux box.  12.10.198.116 is a http-proxy
machine, told that its gateway is 12.10.198.115

earth# tcpdump -i eth1 host 12.10.198.116

Lots of packets, between 116 and the world.  What am I looking for?

-

Folks, after I sent the last mail, I realised that it was devoid of
content.  So here goes:

earth# uname -a
Linux earth 2.0.34 #19 Sun Oct 17 17:03:59 IST 1999 i586 unknown

self compiled kernal, contains lots of drivers.  Not especially designed
to be a lean, clean machine.

Thanks


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[linux-delhi] New Delhi reaches 100 at Linux Counter

1999-10-11 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

New Delhi has reached 100 registrations on the Linux Counter

http://counter.li.org/bycountry/IN::new_delhi.html

Top Cities in India:

119 Bangalore
119 Mumbai
100 New Delhi
61  Chennai
54  Pune
40  Calcutta

India is currently 135 in the Users/Population table.


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[linux-delhi] IBM DB2 CD

1999-09-24 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Has anyone got IBM DB2 (any version) for Linux?  Please?


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Re: [linux-delhi] how to move /var/spool/mail ?

1999-09-21 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Nikhil Datta wrote:

 *?% RH only makes a 256 MB /var partition by default - now I'm at 95%.
 How do I move my mail folders to another partition (place is there in
 /usr) without breaking things ? As mail starts bouncing, users will be
 yelling (any minute now.) 

Assuming mail is in /var/spool/mail
Assuming you want it in /usr/var/spool/mail
(/usr/spool/mail is a bad idea, may be linked /var/spool/mail)

stop sendmail
go single user
make dir /usr/var/spool/mail
cd /var/spool/mail
mv * /usr/var/spool/mail
cd ..
rmdir mail (rmdir, NOT rm -rf .  In case it says there are files still
there, these may be POP daemon files, move them too)
ln -s /usr/var/spool/mail /var/spool/mail

Please check syntax, I am typing this off the top of my head.  What I did
some 6 months back on a Solaris box was to make another partion, and mount
that as /var/mail


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[linux-delhi] Call for LUG coordinators

1999-09-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Raju in particular,

http://linux.com/lug/

Also, I may be able to convince my boss to allow out a SparcClassic with
Debian 2.2 pre-release.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Call for LUG coordinators

1999-09-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Of course, this message is never going to reach Ghane, since Eurolinks 
 e-mail system is s screwed up... do they use Winduhs, I wonder?

I heard that.  So there.

The problem is a faulty, now burnt, CISCO router.  Any one has a spare
they will rent out for a month?  Please?


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[linux-delhi] COMPAQ DROPS ALPHA NT DEVELOPMENT

1999-08-31 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

 
In a stunning move, Compaq recently gave the pink slip to over 100
developers working in the Redmond labs. These people worked on porting NT
to the Alpha platform. This means Compaq basically stopped support for NT
on Alpha, something that is hard to believe. 
 
It looks like Compaq is going to focus on Linux, Tru64 Unix, and Open VMS
for the Alpha platform. This creates a problem for MS.  What are they
going to do with the hundreds of Alpha boxes they are using to beta test
64-bit versions of Win2K? 
 
It looks like a small team is being requested to stay on until the
completion of Service Pack 6 for Windows NT 4.0.  The reason for the
pull-out is likely that there is a low percentage of NT-on-Alpha users.
Sunbelt Software's market analysis estimates that it is no more than 5-7%
of the total NT users, and mainly a high-end niche product. 
 
It was clear that Microsoft did not expect NT on Alpha to make them a lot
of money, but that it would allow them to show off NT on a large
architecture such as Microsoft's Scalability Day. With the release of the
new 8-way Intel based servers this might not be such a big issue anymore.
We will keep you up to date on the developments.  Background and history
at Win NT Magazine. Click your way to: 
http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7153Key=Alpha



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Re: [linux-delhi] ELF

1999-08-10 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Sundeep Holani wrote:
 Which brings us to the question  When is the meeting?? Academically
 speaking, the third sunday is the 15'th... but this 15'th being our dear
 15'th of August, maybe people would like to skip the normal rule. As far as
 the venue is concerned,

Aug 22, please?


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Re: [linux-delhi] ILUG delhi meet....

1999-08-05 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 Just the CD or documentation too??

Documentation?  What?  How?  Huh...


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Re: [linux-delhi] WINE problem

1999-08-05 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Unless WINE has changed very drastically recently, you _do_ need a MS
Windows licence (actually the media) to set up WINE.  Not all the base
DLLs have been re-engineered.

What DLLs does it complain about?

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Jeffrey Yep wrote:

 Hi,
 I posted this before but I didn't get any suggestions or solutions for it. I 
 want to run the setup.exe of a Windoze application on my pure Linux System 
 (P166 mhz) so that I can run this application through WINE on my Linux system. 
 But it can't find some DLL's and then the setup says it could not load the 
 resources needed. Can anybody help? Or do I have to install 
 Windoze!(Please no!) Waiting for some help.
 
 TIA,
 JEff
 
 


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Re: [linux-delhi] ILUG delhi meet....

1999-08-04 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Sundeep Holani wrote:

 And what about this month's meeting. Does DCE suit everyone?? Somebody
 hinted at an install fest in the June meet, could we have it this time?
 There are a lot of interested but uninitiated guys in DCE... and we'll never
 have a better newbie population for an Install fest. Any ideas?

Have a set of Debian 2.1 CDs, am willing to come over and install.  I also
have a old RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) CD, to give away.



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Re: [linux-delhi] Debian CD's

1999-07-28 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 BTW, anyone know the location of/have the Oracle for Linux CD's?

M K Pai has the Oracle CDs, currently not contactable on email.  I am not
comfortable with posting his telephone number, so those of you who know
him ...


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[linux-delhi] ESR speaks at Redmond

1999-06-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Illiad's view:

http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99jun/19990620.html



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Re: [linux-delhi] Fwd: FW: Do spare time for this...its our country after all!!

1999-06-04 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


Which is why I support Priyanka for PM.  ;-)

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Put your flame-protection on!
 SNIP 
 I reserve my comments about the actual facts stated in the message.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- Raju
 
  "Vivek" == vivek kukrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Vivek Guys ..dont flame me for this ,this is off topic ...but
 Vivek since the traffic on linux delhi is low theese days


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[linux-delhi] Re: [OT] Netscape proxy.pac format?

1999-05-11 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 11 May 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Anyone know the complete stuff that one can put in the Netscape
 proxy.pac file?  A URL would be fine.

Here's mine:
---
/* DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT!
1,1,-1,-1
1,.eurolink.stpn.soft.net



 * Proxy autoconfig file for Netscape Navigator
 * Generated by Netscape-Proxy/3.5
 * Generated on Wed Dec 02 17:13:55 1998

 *
 * DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT! DO NOT EDIT!
 *Any changes you make could be overwritten by the admin interface
 */
function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
{
// Direct connections to non-FQDN hosts
if (isPlainHostName(host)) {
return "DIRECT";
}

// Direct connections to local domain
if (dnsDomainIs(host, ".eurolink.stpn.soft.net")) {
return "DIRECT";
}

// Otherwise use proxy
return "PROXY nakul.eurolink.stpn.soft.net:8080";
}

---


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[linux-delhi] From the Debian Developers' list

1999-04-27 Thread Sanjeev Gupta




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-- Forwarded message --
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:08:06 +0200
From: Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Intent to package: GREED
Resent-Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:08:12 -
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcus Brinkmann  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 05:17:20PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
 vi because it's the one true editor, and emacs to keep the heretics
 quiet.

*laugh*

Am I the only one who things that anything beside ed is a waste of space...

No, ofcourse not. Way back, when usenet messages of 95 lines were still
marked with "(long)", I saved this essay about ed:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick J. LoPresti)
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (News system)
 Subject: The True Path (long)
 Date: 11 Jul 91 03:17:31 GMT
 Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs,alt.slack
 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
 Lines: 95

When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow.  They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'.  So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

Ed, man!  !man ed

ED(1)   UNIX Programmer's ManualED(1)

NAME
 ed - text editor

SYNOPSIS
 ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
 Ed is the standard text editor.
-

Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard.  Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair.  Just look:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  24 Oct 29  1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t  4 root 1310720 Jan  1  1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  5.89824e37 Oct 22  1990 /usr/bin/emacs

Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

golem ed

?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello? 
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?

---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

TEXT EDITOR.

When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.

Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

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Re: [linux-delhi] T Shirts for Linux-Delhi members

1999-03-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, vivek kukrety wrote:

 Guys ,
 
 I dont care whether u get the  T shirts from U . S. of A or timbaktoo
 as long as u get them for = $2   ;-) 
 
 FREE IS THE KEY   ;-)

I don't think the T-shirts can be free in that sense, but probably GPL?
So we can buy 1, and:
Incorporate into other work, such as bed covers
Share the shirt freely
Take photgraphs of it and pin them to our chests
Buy a Gana size (M) and extend to Raj Mathur size (XXL)
Start a mailing-list about it
Argue over which is better, the Red(hat) or the Slack(ware)
Boast of fantastic up-times (3 years without a wash, man)
have a distribution war (Mine has better security, no armholes) 
Talk over how to make them work with Microsoft Ties

In short, all the things we do to our Linux boxes.

--
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Re: [linux-delhi] Shameless plug for G T Enterprises

1999-03-18 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Well, I haven't got the first copy yet, so... let's hope it comes in
 by Sunday.

Will bring my copy along (March 99).  Will those who had borrowed last
month bring them for other guys?

 BTW, I need help with setting up the network at Mr Jain's residence on 
 Saturday evening.  All those who can provide resources by then
 (cables, computers, cards, software, etc) and/or a helping hand please 
 raise the self-same hand so that we can work out a program.

Will do.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba and MS

1999-03-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Raj Mathur wrote:

 This is an article about Origin200 servers from SGI, but I couldnt
 resist posting the excerpt under:
 
   http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,394079,00.html
 
In fact, after putting a Wandel  Goltermann Inc. Domino protocol
analyzer on the wire to decode some of the CIFS traffic, we found
that Samba supports some aspects of Microsoft Corp.'s CIFS protocol
better than Microsoft does.

Shameless plug here to tell us about SGI Servers ;-)


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[linux-delhi] Weather Application that sits on your desktop

1999-02-23 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks, especially Raj,

As promised.  However, after looking at it again after a lng time,
realised that isn't so great.


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 tkweather.tar.gz


Re: [linux-delhi] thrid meet , kuch to kary yaaron

1999-02-19 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Folks,

Please, we need to decide by today 4pm.

Raj, could you DECLARE the venue.  As you are the most active member (I
think), any one who disagrees with the venue can turn up there to complain
;-) 


On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Sudhir Gandotra wrote:

 good idea. Coffee House-CP [Mohan Singh Place - First floor] is a nice
 open, empty [sort of] place.
 Or Sanjeev Gupta's place - if it can accomodate all the people.
 
 Vardhan Varma wrote:
  
  proposals
  
  a. Place
  1.  Dilli Hat
  2.  Coffee House, CP
  
  b. Date / Time
  1. 20 Feb 99, 1 PM
  
  c. Meta - Agenda
  1. Programming, Programming and Programming
  
  d. Agenda
  1. About L2.2
  2. 
  
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Re: [linux-delhi] When is the next meeting ?

1999-02-18 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Suman_Saraf wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 When is the next ILUG Delhi meet ? Date/Time/Venue ?

Sunday?  Anytime?  My place?

Attractions:
Pepsi/Beer/snacks
Half a dozen issues of LJ to borrow
Debian 2.0 CD (and some other stuff too, but dated)
Easy to reach (I think) -- Old Rajinder Nagar

Disadvantages:
Me


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - smb.conf

1999-01-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 wins server = 192.8.8.1
 name resolve order = wins bcast
 
 Unable to start
 cannot have have WINS support = Yes and WINS server = 192.8.8.1

wins support = no

Unless you have subnet, or unix, non-samba machines, you dont need this.


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Re: [linux-delhi] Samba - smb.conf

1999-01-16 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Rajesh Thiharie wrote:

 I've already done [wins support = no]that and now the error is
 ERROR
 [1999/11/18 15:35:27, 0] libsmb/nmblib.c:send udp(754)
 Packet send failed to 192.8.8.255 (138)
 ERRNO = Invalid argument
 /ERROR


%^#$*^$

Time out.  Wait.  Back up.

I have _no_ idea what is going on now.  Is this with a distribution, or
have you rolled your own?  I think the latter.  Please recheck your
dependencies.


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