Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: default vs. default (e.g. exportfs)
>>> Andrew Beekhof schrieb am 12.08.2011 um 02:29 in >>> Nachricht : > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ulrich Windl > wrote: > Andrew Beekhof schrieb am 11.08.2011 um 07:57 in > Nachricht > > : > >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Ulrich Windl > >> wrote: > >> > Hi! > >> > > >> > I frequently see problems I don't understand: > >> > When configuring an exportfs resource using "crm" shell without > >> > explicitly > >> specifying operations or timeouts, I get warnings like these: > >> > WARNING: prm_nfs_v03: default timeout 20s for start is smaller than the > >> advised 40 > >> > > >> > I wonder: If the default is "40s", > >> > >> It is not the default. > >> It is the recommended minimum for that operation on that resource. > > > > OK, > > > > let's rephrase it: If there is an advertised minimum, and I do not specify > a timeout, why isn't hat advertised minimum used (as a default)? > > Because its only a recommendation > Because you may have configured it outside of the shell - with a tools > which doesn't know about the agent's metadata. > Because the metadata might be different on other machines in the cluster. Hi! Sorry, but I get more new questions than answers: The operation defaults an in the CIB, while the minimums are in the RA's metadata, right? So any configuration tool should have access to both data. Why shouldn't a tool have access to the RA's metadata? Also why should those metadata be different on individual nodes of one cluster? I'd consider it a bug if different nodes have different versions of the RA installed. Regards, Ulrich ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: default vs. default (e.g. exportfs)
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ulrich Windl wrote: Andrew Beekhof schrieb am 11.08.2011 um 07:57 in Nachricht > : >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Ulrich Windl >> wrote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > I frequently see problems I don't understand: >> > When configuring an exportfs resource using "crm" shell without explicitly >> specifying operations or timeouts, I get warnings like these: >> > WARNING: prm_nfs_v03: default timeout 20s for start is smaller than the >> advised 40 >> > >> > I wonder: If the default is "40s", >> >> It is not the default. >> It is the recommended minimum for that operation on that resource. > > OK, > > let's rephrase it: If there is an advertised minimum, and I do not specify a > timeout, why isn't hat advertised minimum used (as a default)? Because its only a recommendation Because you may have configured it outside of the shell - with a tools which doesn't know about the agent's metadata. Because the metadata might be different on other machines in the cluster. > > Ulrich > >> >> > and I specify none, why isn't that default used? >> > Is it because CRM has ist own defaults? >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ulrich >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Linux-HA mailing list >> > Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org >> > http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha >> > See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems >> > >> ___ >> Linux-HA mailing list >> Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org >> http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha >> See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems >> > > > > > ___ > Linux-HA mailing list > Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org > http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha > See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems > ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
[Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: default vs. default (e.g. exportfs)
>>> Andrew Beekhof schrieb am 11.08.2011 um 07:57 in >>> Nachricht : > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Ulrich Windl > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I frequently see problems I don't understand: > > When configuring an exportfs resource using "crm" shell without explicitly > specifying operations or timeouts, I get warnings like these: > > WARNING: prm_nfs_v03: default timeout 20s for start is smaller than the > advised 40 > > > > I wonder: If the default is "40s", > > It is not the default. > It is the recommended minimum for that operation on that resource. OK, let's rephrase it: If there is an advertised minimum, and I do not specify a timeout, why isn't hat advertised minimum used (as a default)? Ulrich > > > and I specify none, why isn't that default used? > > Is it because CRM has ist own defaults? > > > > Regards, > > Ulrich > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-HA mailing list > > Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org > > http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha > > See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems > > > ___ > Linux-HA mailing list > Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org > http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha > See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems > ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems