back-resolving by server apps
Hya'all Question regarding SuSE and possibly other/all distros: some server applications back-resolve the IP of the clients that connect to them. Is this done by the server application or by an OS facility? It happened to me with ssh2d server. Can this somehow be disabled? I have a friend who set up samba and ISDN dial-on-demand, also on SuSE. He complained that every connection to samba triggered an internet connection. Can this be related? thx. ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: back-resolving by server apps
Miki Shapiro wrote: some server applications back-resolve the IP of the clients that connect to them. Is this done by the server application or by an OS facility? It happened to me with ssh2d server. Can this somehow be disabled? I have a friend who set up samba and ISDN dial-on-demand, also on SuSE. He complained that every connection to samba triggered an internet connection. Can this be related? It is done by the application (although, philosophically, you may claim that by serving the app syscall, it is the kernel). Usually, it is possible to confiugure the app to avoid it. For example, you configure Apache to run about twice (!) faster, by the following directive: "HostnameLookups Off". Later, even if you need to resolve the whole log file / etc., it is still much faster than doing it on-the-fly. In addition, doing it later by a batch program, allows it to use caching. Regarding the specific configuration for ssh: RTFM. Nobody promises you that ssh has this option. If this is the case (no option for ssh), then Read The *** Source. Adding such an option is one of the simplest things to do (just wrap the func that reverse resolve the IPs, to do nothing if an environment variable is set. And don't forget to getenv() only once and save the result in a static variable). -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: back-resolving by server apps
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:53:59AM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote: Question regarding SuSE and possibly other/all distros: some server applications back-resolve the IP of the clients that connect to them. Is this done by the server application or by an OS facility? To add to Eli's reply, all servers which use tcpwrappers (either standalone or servers being run by inetd via /usr/sbin/tcpd) attempt to backresolve the IP, in order to match it against the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files. It happened to me with ssh2d server. SSHd (atleast the one shipped with OpenSSH) seems to support both tcpwrappers (if compiled with LIBWRAP) and resolving on it's own (ReverseMappingCheck option). I'm not sure whether tcpwrappers support can be disabled without recompilation. I have a friend who set up samba and ISDN dial-on-demand, also on SuSE. He complained that every connection to samba triggered an internet connection. Can this be related? It has something to do with subnet broadcasts SAMBA uses. See: http://milliways.stat.unipd.it/doc/isdn4k-utils-3.1/i4lfaq-16.html#ss16.9 (2nd result on Google for SAMBA triggers dialup) -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mkisofs and hebrew filenames
Hi IGLUers, I was wondering if anyone here has succeeded in burning CD-Rs with Hebrew filenames on them, that are readable on that other OS. Normally, mkisofs (with the -J option to create Joliet directories) barfs on Hebrew filenames. When adding the option '-jcharset cp862', the Windows Hebrew filenames are recognized OK, but they are reversed. This means it's not a charset problem, but probably a bidi problem. I suspect that the Joliet filenames somehow aren't processed by the Windows Bidi algorithm in the same way as 'regular' filenames. Does anyone have experience with this? Is hacking mkisofs to use a bidi algorithm for the filenames the correct way to solve this? Regards, Gavrie. -- Gavrie Philipson Netmor Applied Modeling Research Ltd. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
Nadav, I disagree with some of the 'excuses' you mentioned as reasons for downtime. However, there's one that actually made me mad: 3. Electrical failure - even in Netvision's very reliable server room, with its UPSs, etc., we've had one multi-hour blackout in the last year (caused, if I remember correctly, by some backhoe accident in the Haifa MATAM area, out of Netvision's control). even in Netvision's very reliable server room?! If an external power failure brings the Netvision server room down, I wouldn't call it very reliable! In fact, I wouldn't even call it remotely reliable. We had a very bad experience with Bezeq Int. with a similar problem (multiple power failures where their UPS didn't work as planned) which resulted in our very expensive hard drive being trashed. The worst part in this incident was that it took us weeks to trace the random crashes to the faulty hard drive. The moral of this story (for us) was to place a personal UPS as a backup to Bezeq Int's UPS backup, which performs an organized shutdown of the machine when the power is down for over 10 minutes. However, I think this is pathetic - a server room should provide 99.99% uptime, including electricity. Every medium sized colocation provider in the states provides this uptime, but when you talk to Netvision/Bezeq Int./Barak/Internet Gold about guaranteed uptime they scratch their heads looking totally puzzled. I guess it's all a matter of what the customers expect: If customers think that power failures are act of god that there's nothing to do against except pray, then there's no reason for Netvision to place reliable UPS services to keep the server farm up through the power failure. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PP: suggested acronym - STFE
PP = Political Post. i think we've seen in the past few years that RTFM is often a good solution to getting to know a subject, while STFE (Search The Fucking Engine) is often a very good solution to solving specific problems. i suggest then that using the STFE reply be considered a good advice, just like RTFM is. as past postings show, very often people could have found the solution to their problems using a 5-10 minute search on google (thus, the acronym variant of STFG comes to mind) or on dejanews (now groups.google.com). i'm using this opportunity to repeat my plea - please, please _please_ use a search engine before you post your question here. hardly anyone encounters problems that weren't encountered previously by other people, and very often, a search on google or google's groups would yield an answer in a few minutes, as was demonstrated here time and again. your problem is not unique. people had it before you, and will have it after you, and they already asked about it somewhere on the net. if you perform the search and fail to find a solution or answer in a reasonable time (e.g. 5 minutes or 10 minutes), then no one would hold that against you if you post the question to the list, _stating_ that you have searched google and failed to find a solution there. i know that using a search engine requiers some practice to learn to come up with proper keywords, but its a skill you own to yourself (and to the rest of us). beading you a prosperous STFE, -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
goldfish spamming
Hi, Has anyone else been spammed by a GoldFish add the past days ? --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPTP ADSL rpm
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Oded Arbel wrote: - I assumed the user name would be guest@ONetvision -any one care to correct me on this ?). you should be VERY VERY careful when you place an RPM that dials into a guest ADSL account - make SURE it is clearly very visible to anyone installing the RPM - or esle, they'll dial out, use it, and later find the horrific billing on their next phone bill. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, The sad fact is that Israeli ISPs do not know how to collocate equipment properly. The only world class collo in Israel is Med-1s facility at Tirat Ha Karmel, it's a atomic proof bunker as I heard, some 4000-5000 square meters, some gigantic UPSs, generators, etc etc. The equipment can be collocated there in cages, as it's know for people who collocated stuff in the US. Of course, 24hr access and such. --Ariel However, I think this is pathetic - a server room should provide 99.99% uptime, including electricity. Every medium sized colocation provider in the states provides this uptime, but when you talk to Netvision/Bezeq Int./Barak/Internet Gold about guaranteed uptime they scratch their heads looking totally puzzled. I guess it's all a matter of what the customers expect: If customers think that power failures are act of god that there's nothing to do against except pray, then there's no reason for Netvision to place reliable UPS services to keep the server farm up through the power failure. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
On Wed, May 16, 2001, Aviram Jenik wrote about Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server): Nadav, I disagree with some of the 'excuses' you mentioned as reasons for downtime. However, there's one that actually made me mad: Don't get mad :) I was just giving my own experiences. If you have others, or have other major reasons for downtime to talk about, please do so. And these are not excuses - these are things that actually caused my actual server to have downtime in the last few years. What don't you agree with? 3. Electrical failure - even in Netvision's very reliable server room, with its UPSs, etc., we've had one multi-hour blackout in the last year (caused, if I remember correctly, by some backhoe accident in the Haifa MATAM area, out of Netvision's control). even in Netvision's very reliable server room?! If an external power failure brings the Netvision server room down, I wouldn't call it very reliable! In fact, I wouldn't even call it remotely reliable. In the several years that Netvision hosted us, this was (as far as I can remember) the only unplanned blackout. There was one other planned blackout, when they switched buildings (they moved about 200 meters south) and the server had to be physically moved. I am not sure why during that blackout period their UPS or generators did not work - I assume the blackout was simply too long (it lasted many hours). We suffered no physical or other damage to our machine. Obviously, we've had many blackouts in Haifa in the last few years, and in all other cases Netvision's UPSs or generators worked well: our machine typically reaches about 6 months uptime before we reboot it for one reason or another. In any case, this server room is reliable enough for me, and I am very satisfied by it. The other reasons of downtime I stated caused us much more grief. But if you want, don't run your ICBM launch planner from such a room. By the way, I wasn't trying to debate whether Netvision is better or worse than any other ISP. I was emphasising the PC and Linux related issues. The moral of this story (for us) was to place a personal UPS as a backup to Bezeq Int's UPS backup, which performs an organized shutdown of the machine when the power is down for over 10 minutes. Yes, but that requires more space in the server room, and in the ISP world, space is money. I never felt the need for a personal UPS over there. However, I think this is pathetic - a server room should provide 99.99% uptime, including electricity. Every medium sized colocation provider in the Should it? Remember, 99.99% means 52 minute downtime a year. This is VERY HARD to achieve - especially for a growing ISP - you have to count planned and unplanned blackouts (e.g., when you upgrade your generators, electricity connection, building, etc.). Achieving 99.99% also for the Internet connectivity is probably completely impossible (when you have one physical location)! And in any case, because the availability of the software on our server was only around 99% (around 3 days of inavalibility each year, much of it due to overloading and cracking attempts), I don't need a 99.99% guarantee from the server room... If you were offered a 4-nines colocation facility for 10 times the price of a 3-nines colocation facility (redundant generators able to run for a long time cost a FORTUNE), would you take it? So, can you point us to a colocation company that guarantees 99.99% availability for a decent price? -- Nadav Har'El|Wednesday, May 16 2001, 23 Iyyar 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Early bird gets the worm, but the second http://nadav.harel.org.il |mouse gets the cheese. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: goldfish spamming
On Wed, May 16, 2001, Ariel Biener wrote about goldfish spamming: Has anyone else been spammed by a GoldFish add the past days ? I haven't got that spam, but Israeli spam has increased considerably lately. As usual, the Jewish Genious somehow seems to find addresses that other spammers never found, and they have better success at penetrating my filters (still less than 1%, but it's still annoying me ;))... Could you send me the spam please (with full headers)? Thanks. The most annoying Israeli spammer lately, from where I'm sitting, is fixfax.co.il. Another spammer, advertising some book about a conspiracy theory of Rabin's murder, had a virus (the Fix2001 W32 Worm) so the two spams I got from him were followed by two virus messages. As usual, I contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing about it (I'm not going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing ISPs again...). -- Nadav Har'El|Wednesday, May 16 2001, 24 Iyyar 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |It's fortunate I have back luck - http://nadav.harel.org.il |without it I would have no luck at all! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
The sad fact is that Israeli ISPs do not know how to collocate equipment properly. The only world class collo in Israel is Med-1s facility at Tirat Ha Karmel, it's a atomic proof bunker as I heard, some 4000-5000 square meters, some gigantic UPSs, generators, etc etc. The equipment can be collocated there in cages, as it's know for people who collocated stuff in the US. Of course, 24hr access and such. I think that people here do know how to handle this stuff properly... The problem is that most customers don't care that much, so 99.99% availability is not justified economically. The moment customers will start suing ISPs for unreasonable downtime, and refuse to sign contracts without proper uptime assurances from ISPs, Israeli ISPs will adjust themselves to reality and do what is needed. I was envolved in ordering Frame Relay line for our company a few years ago... And I remember perfectly well the funny stares I got when I asked about CIRs and traffic assurances and such... Haim. --Ariel However, I think this is pathetic - a server room should provide 99.99% uptime, including electricity. Every medium sized colocation provider in the states provides this uptime, but when you talk to Netvision/Bezeq Int./Barak/Internet Gold about guaranteed uptime they scratch their heads looking totally puzzled. I guess it's all a matter of what the customers expect: If customers think that power failures are act of god that there's nothing to do against except pray, then there's no reason for Netvision to place reliable UPS services to keep the server farm up through the power failure. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] Naming the lazy ISP? (was: Re: goldfish spamming)
The spamming issue is not specific to Linux, so I labelled it as OFFTOPIC. On Wed, 16 May 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: ... As usual, I contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing about it (I'm not going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing ISPs again...). I suffer from lots of Turkish spam, and I don't relish the idea of Israeli spam joining it. So...please publicize the ISP in question, humilitate them in public, get them to taste the upgradedbarbed version of Marc's Differential SCSI Cable on their tenderest spots of their skin real estate, and hopefully all Israeli ISPs will handle properly the spam mongers, and we'll be spared the evils of Israeli spam. --- Omer WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PP: suggested acronym - STFE
On Wed, 16 May 2001, guy keren wrote: PP = Political Post. i'm using this opportunity to repeat my plea - please, please _please_ use a search engine before you post your question here. hardly anyone encounters problems that weren't encountered previously by other people, and very often, a search on google or google's groups would yield an answer in a few minutes, as was demonstrated here time and again. your problem is not unique. people had it before you, and will have it after you, and they already asked about it somewhere on the net. i whole heartedly second guy's plea, and would like to suggest ana additional clause: if your problem was interesting, for reasonable values of interesting, write a short note to the list, detailing what was the problem, and what was the solution. such posts do wonderful things to the S2N ration on mailing lists, not to mention providing a hit for other people who will STFE in the future. also, speaking from personal experience, many times i've read a solution to a problem i've never encountered, (and thought i never will) only to encouter it in the not too distant future. beading you a prosperous STFE, second that. -- guy -- mulix http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
Don't get mad :) I was just giving my own experiences. If you have others, or have other major reasons for downtime to talk about, please do so. Please don't take this personally. Every sys admin has a right to define his/her own 'acceptable' downtime policy. Most people I know will settle for 95% uptime, and many corporates don't really need more than that for their public web servers. However, what I'm mad at is the ISPs inability to provide *me* with the level of quality that I want and need. Achieving 99.99% also for the Internet connectivity is probably completely impossible (when you have one physical location)! Nadav, I'm sorry to say, you are used to the Israeli standard of doing things. Let me tell you a little story that happened to a friend of mine (Gilad, sorry to steal your thunder); his company was hosting their servers at a colocation provider in the west coast. Not a huge one, by the way. That company sent my friend an e-mail one day that was something like: we are going to move our router two weeks from now at 14:00. This should not create any problems, since we have an alternative route that will keep your connection alive transparantely, but it means that for those 30 minutes your connection will only be through the backup router only, and we will not have redundancy. Please let us know if this time and date is inconvinient, and we will reschedule. I can't begin to count how many times our ISP changed network configurations by surprise which caused problems on the network (only for a few minutes, true. But why should that happen at all?), and these guys are warning him that for 30 minutes his network connection will still work, but through one route only, and it will not be redundant. Now that's what I call having a high standard. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkisofs and hebrew filenames
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:47:58PM +0300, Gavrie Philipson wrote: Hi IGLUers, I was wondering if anyone here has succeeded in burning CD-Rs with Hebrew filenames on them, that are readable on that other OS. Normally, mkisofs (with the -J option to create Joliet directories) barfs on Hebrew filenames. When adding the option '-jcharset cp862', the Windows Hebrew filenames are recognized OK, but they are reversed. This means it's not a charset problem, but probably a bidi problem. I suspect that the Joliet filenames somehow aren't processed by the Windows Bidi algorithm in the same way as 'regular' filenames. Does anyone have experience with this? Is hacking mkisofs to use a bidi algorithm for the filenames the correct way to solve this? Did you try 'iso8859-8' ? (I'd be suprised to see it work if the previous solution didn't, since both should just convert the thing into Unicode -- and the source shows no differences as well). Another possible thing might be that you'll need to include a zero-width Unicode symbol which means start bidi algorythm. POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING (hexadecimal 202C) should apparently do it. If that's indeed the solution, then I'd hope you'd choose the right way to patch mkisofs rather than including a bidi algorythm :) -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:22:57PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: The most annoying Israeli spammer lately, from where I'm sitting, is fixfax.co.il. Another spammer, advertising some book about a conspiracy theory of Rabin's murder, had a virus (the Fix2001 W32 Worm) so the two spams I got from him were followed by two virus messages. As usual, I contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing about it (I'm not going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing ISPs again...). Oh, I've got the FixFax thing too. Traced them, mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it bounced back (what a surprise!). Later on, I phoned 012.net and spent some 15 minutes explaining the person on the other side (probably support's supervisor) why spam is wrong. So, go to your Outlook Express menu and add a filter ... I was thinking ISOC should take care of the ISP education. Since ISPs are interested in IIX peering etc., maybe ISOC should force participating ISPs to have non-abuse-tolerant AUPs and active spam departments? I emailed ISOC about this, but all Hank Nussbacher told me was that there's also [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hey, that's the 3rd ISP in Israel, after NetVision and Zahav). I'm in no position to tell them what to do though :) -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network sniffing tools - Ethereal
Hello! Last week there was a discussion about network sniffing tools. One mentioned was ethereal, which is a nice alternative to the venerable tcpdump. I got it going OK, but it has a silly default of sampling ALL protocols. After labouriously switching them all off, but for those I wanted, I found next time around, that my setup was not saved anywhere. Does anyone know where Ethereal puts its configuration/setup files? Maybe hacking them might help. (I have searched for *ethereal* in /etc and /usr - nothing helpful.) Regards, Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another Windoze only site
Take a look at www.jobinfo.co.il using mozilla or konqueror. If anyone is interested, I can supply correspondence between this site and myself, the bottom line of which is, (1) What you see on accessing the site: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0005' Invalid procedure call or argument: 'mid' //global.asa, line 141 (2) The official response: Hi Daniel! Our site doesnt support linux's system Sorry to dissapoint you, Regards, (details of their customer service lady) Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: I was thinking ISOC should take care of the ISP education. Since ISPs are interested in IIX peering etc., maybe ISOC should force participating ISPs to have non-abuse-tolerant AUPs and active spam departments? I emailed ISOC about this, but all Hank Nussbacher told me was that there's also [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hey, that's the 3rd ISP in Israel, after NetVision and Zahav). Great idea! Ilya, can you suggest an E-mail address which can be used to CC someone in ISOC about Israeli spams? The idea is that once that person (or persons) frmo ISOC get loads of spam complaints, they'll start implementing the appropriate zero tolerance spam policy, using the power of IIX to enforce it. --- Omer There is no IGLU cabal. They didn't fight spam, so they drowned in it and ceased to exist. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPTP ADSL rpm
On Wed, 16 May 2001, guy keren wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Oded Arbel wrote: - I assumed the user name would be guest@ONetvision -any one care to correct me on this ?). you should be VERY VERY careful when you place an RPM that dials into a guest ADSL account - make SURE it is clearly very visible to anyone installing the RPM - or esle, they'll dial out, use it, and later find the horrific billing on their next phone bill. What precautions do you suggest I'll have ? I don't think that a click-through license (like Sun's JDK, for example) is a good ides. Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Windoze only site
Hi Daniel, I used jobinfo with Konqueror without any problem On Konqueror go to Window, Configure Konqueror, user-agent. You should set: jobinfo.co.il with MSIE and Windows (like MSIE 5.5 on Windows NT) Then close Konqueror, clean the cache (thats on Proxies and cache on the same configuration windows) and restart Konqueror. This should do the trick.. Good Luck, Hetz On Wednesday 16 May 2001 20:33, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Take a look at www.jobinfo.co.il using mozilla or konqueror. If anyone is interested, I can supply correspondence between this site and myself, the bottom line of which is, (1) What you see on accessing the site: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0005' Invalid procedure call or argument: 'mid' //global.asa, line 141 (2) The official response: Hi Daniel! Our site doesnt support linux's system Sorry to dissapoint you, Regards, (details of their customer service lady) Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPTP ADSL rpm
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Oded Arbel wrote: you should be VERY VERY careful when you place an RPM that dials into a guest ADSL account - make SURE it is clearly very visible to anyone installing the RPM - or esle, they'll dial out, use it, and later find the horrific billing on their next phone bill. What precautions do you suggest I'll have ? Idon't think that a click-through license (like Sun's JDK, for example) is a good ides. the precaution edpends on the configuration method. if the user modifies the config file by hand - make a comment IN CAPITAL LETTERS before and after each such guest entry, and have all entries commented out by default, so the user actually has to read that file to edit it. if the configuration is dne by a text script that asks questions in text mode, print a BIG WARNING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before asking the user which provider they wish to choose from, and better then this - just ask for their user name and place it there, and do NOT support the guest accounts (why support them at all, if the user surely wants to use their account, and not a guest account that costs MUCH MUCH MORE then that? if its a GUI - well, it isn't a GUI, is it? :) -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network sniffing tools - Ethereal
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Without too much thinking, strace -f ethereal , redirect the output with tee to a file as well, and then change the config. Look in the strace output file, and you'll see what files it accesses. --Ariel Hello! Last week there was a discussion about network sniffing tools. One mentioned was ethereal, which is a nice alternative to the venerable tcpdump. I got it going OK, but it has a silly default of sampling ALL protocols. After labouriously switching them all off, but for those I wanted, I found next time around, that my setup was not saved anywhere. Does anyone know where Ethereal puts its configuration/setup files? Maybe hacking them might help. (I have searched for *ethereal* in /etc and /usr - nothing helpful.) Regards, Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g.,run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network sniffing tools - Ethereal
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: I got it going OK, but it has a silly default of sampling ALL protocols. After labouriously switching them all off, but for those I wanted, I found next time around, that my setup was not saved anywhere. Does anyone know where Ethereal puts its configuration/setup files? Maybe hacking them might help. _this_ is not a question i would have expected from _you_... surely not right after the term STFE was coined? the answer to your question is, ofcourse, STFE. yes, that's right SFTE. and SFTE for another minute - that'll do the trick. an SFTE for 'ethereal config file location' on google immediatly yields a set of reuslts. except for #1 (which is samba) the next are quite relevant messages. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPTP ADSL rpm
On Wed, 16 May 2001, guy keren wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Oded Arbel wrote: you should be VERY VERY careful when you place an RPM that dials into a guest ADSL account - make SURE it is clearly very visible to anyone installing the RPM - or esle, they'll dial out, use it, and later find the horrific billing on their next phone bill. What precautions do you suggest I'll have ? Idon't think that a click-through license (like Sun's JDK, for example) is a good ides. the precaution edpends on the configuration method. if the user modifies the config file by hand - make a comment IN CAPITAL LETTERS before and after each such guest entry, and have all entries commented out by default, so the user actually has to read that file to edit it. Well, that kinds of beat the purpose of making a plug-n-play' package , doesn't it ? if the configuration is dne by a text script that asks questions in text mode, print a BIG WARNING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before asking the user which provider they wish to choose from, and better then this - just ask for their user name and place it there, and do NOT support the guest accounts (why support them at all, if the user surely wants to use their account, and not a guest account that costs MUCH MUCH MORE then that? The user sometimes want to use a guest account - for example, if their ISP sucks (like our does), and they want to see how fast another ISP is. I'll just make a configuration scripty tommorow. if its a GUI - well, it isn't a GUI, is it? :) no - it isn't. why ? want to write one :-) Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
insta-party, details (fwd)
Please read the attached letter below and see if you can help us in any way this is going to be a big installation party and hopefully the most colorfull one of them :-) I also hope we'll get to give around GPL flyers and DESS so anyway you feel like contruting is welcome especially by comming to there. btw how would ppl here feel about costumes?:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:45:28 +0200 From: Rafram Chaddad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: insta-party, details Hi Ely, Our insta-party will took place at 29/05/01, behind the city hall in kikar safra (Jerusalem). she should begin around 19:00, and going to be until the small hours of the night. what we need? 1. donations (for the night) of monitors, keyboards, mices. (Ely, i want do make a list of the monitors that will be availble). 2. installers (even basic one). we need something like 15-20 installers (there will be shifts, and the installers could rest between next to next in the shows there). Ely, if you think it's necessary to mantion the customs thing, go ahead. 3. configuration-man. something like 2-3. 4. the distro's: red hat 7.1 (powered by aduva), mandrake 8, yellow dog 2. this is it Ely, thanku very much for all your help. Rafram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Ariel Biener wrote: least (it's current version had almost a 2 years uptime). then i assume that the current machine isn't a 32-bit Linux machine, since its kernel's jiffies variable would have recycled after about 1.3 years, and as far as i understood, no one before tested what would happen in such a case. as far as i know, the jiffies variable's handling was changed to allow for much larger uptimes (at least as far as jiffies is concerned) or years. on the other hand, there is no 2.4 kernel based machine that had an uptime of anything close to 2 years, since this kernel's version did not yet exist so long ;) -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy I would be very disappointed if the max uptime is measured in years and this state of affairs is ignored by the kernel developers. I hope that this would become at least tenths of years on 64 bits architectures, even if there will be no deliberate attempt to fix it. IMHO this limitation is severe because it should have strong impact on machines that are located in remote areas, critical missions machines, embedded systems and consumer electronics. In short, I want to determine the machine behavior and not the other way around. -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 years? can't be linux (was: Re: web server)
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: Just consider the implications of sending such a machine on a long term mission into space, on an unmanned shuttle. --Ariel I would be very disappointed if the max uptime is measured in years and this state of affairs is ignored by the kernel developers. I hope that this would become at least tenths of years on 64 bits architectures, even if there will be no deliberate attempt to fix it. IMHO this limitation is severe because it should have strong impact on machines that are located in remote areas, critical missions machines, embedded systems and consumer electronics. In short, I want to determine the machine behavior and not the other way around. -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
1. ftp.tau.ac.il: Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il. I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have problems with that site can do that as well. 2. www.exploits.org Yet I have a new problem: www.exploits.org, which is a free software site that hosts a few projects. Can people, especially bezeqint users, try to traceroute it? The www.exploits.org admin told me that bezeqint is 18 hops away: 16 195.ATM8-0-0.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.129) 131.688 ms 132.167 ms 127.474 ms 17 Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222) 310.454 ms APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5) 320.504 ms Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222) 315.826 ms My traceroute doesn't get to it: [03:31:34 tmp]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute -m 22 www.exploits.org traceroute to gearbox.exploits.org (65.64.162.194), 22 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5) 44.597 ms 49.342 ms 42.185 ms 2 6000.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.30) 45.944 ms * 46.554 ms 3 212.179.59.195 (212.179.59.195) 48.240 ms 50.165 ms 43.660 ms 4 gw0.bezeqint.net (192.115.106.254) 49.798 ms 57.993 ms 53.749 ms 5 212.25.93.242 (212.25.93.242) 49.183 ms 50.081 ms 48.866 ms 6 500.Serial2-1-1.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (157.130.252.221) 221.040 ms 221.719 ms 223.256 ms 7 104.ATM3-0.XR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.138) 223.496 ms 218.933 ms 222.632 ms 8 195.at-1-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.26) 226.871 ms 226.725 ms 215.925 ms 9 0.so-2-1-0.XL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.137) 220.727 ms 217.705 ms 224.678 ms 10 POS6-0.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.24.97) 228.676 ms 220.195 ms 217.025 ms 11 137.39.52.78 (137.39.52.78) 220.622 ms 214.595 ms 222.427 ms 12 ord2-core2-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.38) 246.275 ms 243.931 ms 238.921 ms 13 ord2-core3-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.94) 240.643 ms 247.973 ms 240.796 ms 14 ord2-core4-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.98) 239.738 ms 250.413 ms 238.554 ms 15 dfw3-core1-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.69) 258.115 ms 259.307 ms 263.524 ms 16 dfw3-core2-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.122) 269.827 ms 268.158 ms 264.595 ms 17 sat1-core1-s3-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.52.117) 282.122 ms 281.064 ms 286.490 ms 18 206.181.162.90 (206.181.162.90) 281.510 ms 278.914 ms 287.304 ms 19 core1-fa0-0-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.228) 289.016 ms 281.032 ms 281.021 ms 20 rback1-fa2-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.70) 289.380 ms * 295.789 ms 21 * * * 22 * * * -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
Shaul Karl wrote: 2. www.exploits.org Yet I have a new problem: www.exploits.org, which is a free software site that hosts a few projects. Can people, especially bezeqint users, try to traceroute it? Through Aquanet: # traceroute www.exploits.org traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 192.117.252.25 @ eth0 traceroute to gearbox.exploits.org (65.64.162.194), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ip1 (192.117.252.17) 2.796 ms 2.769 ms 3.009 ms 2 aq-ElMar.aquanet.co.il (192.117.255.13) 27.107 ms 24.439 ms 23.294 ms 3 212.117.158.193 (212.117.158.193) 26.213 ms 26.655 ms 34.495 ms 4 212.199.26.2 (212.199.26.2) 25.836 ms 28.603 ms 27.379 ms 5 har1-serial4-0-0-8-0.London.cw.net (166.63.164.141) 209.823 ms 165.672 ms 148.406 ms 6 bcr2.London.cw.net (166.63.162.62) 112.234 ms 145.389 ms 196.109 ms 7 bcr2-so-0-3-0.Thamesside.cw.net (166.63.209.149) 148.912 ms 189.192 ms 192.397 ms 8 acr2-so-3-2-0.NewYorknyr.cw.net (166.63.209.146) 265.374 ms 245.228 ms 180.298 ms 9 acr2-loopback.Chicagochd.cw.net (208.172.2.62) 272.687 ms 189.856 ms 203.710 ms 10 core9.Chicago.cw.net (204.70.9.105) 216.090 ms 206.579 ms 190.179 ms 11 digex-peering-circuits.Chicago.cw.net (204.70.10.94) 222.045 ms 214.952 ms 234.451 ms 12 ord2-core1-s3-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.50.250) 294.399 ms ord2-core1-s3-8.atlas.icix.net (165.117.67.210) 277.287 ms ord2-core1-s3-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.50.250) 278.774 ms 13 ord2-core4-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.90) 243.739 ms 293.874 ms 301.231 ms 14 dfw3-core1-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.69) 302.105 ms 286.059 ms 229.424 ms 15 dfw3-core2-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.122) 297.405 ms 273.448 ms 249.309 ms 16 sat1-core1-s3-2.atlas.icix.net (165.117.51.250) 238.518 ms 251.290 ms 231.786 ms 17 206.181.162.110 (206.181.162.110) 235.918 ms 254.232 ms 265.303 ms 18 core1-fa1-0-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.244) 252.524 ms 277.756 ms 370.813 ms 19 rback1-fa2-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.70) 352.438 ms 367.748 ms 299.447 ms 20 gearbox.exploits.org (65.64.162.194) 252.410 ms 241.725 ms 248.059 ms -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:22:57PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
The most annoying Israeli spammer lately, from where I'm sitting, is
fixfax.co.il. Another spammer, advertising some book about a conspiracy
theory of Rabin's murder, had a virus (the Fix2001 W32 Worm) so the two
spams I got from him were followed by two virus messages. As usual, I
contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing about it (I'm not
going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing ISPs again...).
Oh, I've got the FixFax thing too. Traced them, mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and it bounced back (what a surprise!).
Later on, I phoned 012.net and spent some 15 minutes explaining the
person on the other side (probably support's supervisor) why spam is
wrong. So, go to your Outlook Express menu and add a filter ...
I was thinking ISOC should take care of the ISP education. Since ISPs
are interested in IIX peering etc., maybe ISOC should force
participating ISPs to have non-abuse-tolerant AUPs and active spam
departments? I emailed ISOC about this, but all Hank Nussbacher told
Hank is not the address, Doron Shikmoni is, IMHO.
- yba
me was that there's also [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hey, that's the 3rd ISP
in Israel, after NetVision and Zahav).
I'm in no position to tell them what to do though :)
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RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
Hello,
For me, this issue is a little more personal. I'm customer of FixFax
(was before they started their spamming), and because of their spam
want to move to different service, similar to theirs. FixFax's service
is ok, but I'm really enraged by their spamming (received several
spam e-mails already), and don't want my money to support such
company. What I look for is:
1. Full Linux support (fax received in format readable on Linux (like
standard TIFF), and e-mail message itself should be easily parsable by
script).
2. Prices comparable to FixFax.
3. 03 or 08 dialing zone.
If anyone knows something like that, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Haim.
P.S.: What saddens me is that spam works... I know two people who
subscribed to FixFax service as a result of their spam. I don't know
alternative services, and FixFax service is not bad, after all...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jonathan
Ben-Avraham
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:49 AM
To: Ilya Konstantinov
Cc: Israeli Linux Mailing List
Subject: Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:22:57PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
The most annoying Israeli spammer lately, from where
I'm sitting, is
fixfax.co.il. Another spammer, advertising some book
about a conspiracy
theory of Rabin's murder, had a virus (the Fix2001 W32
Worm) so the two
spams I got from him were followed by two virus
messages. As usual, I
contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing
about it (I'm not
going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing
ISPs again...).
Oh, I've got the FixFax thing too. Traced them, mailed
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
and it bounced back (what a surprise!).
Later on, I phoned 012.net and spent some 15 minutes
explaining the
person on the other side (probably support's supervisor)
why spam is
wrong. So, go to your Outlook Express menu and add a filter ...
I was thinking ISOC should take care of the ISP
education. Since ISPs
are interested in IIX peering etc., maybe ISOC should force
participating ISPs to have non-abuse-tolerant AUPs and active spam
departments? I emailed ISOC about this, but all Hank
Nussbacher told
Hank is not the address, Doron Shikmoni is, IMHO.
- yba
me was that there's also [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hey, that's the 3rd ISP
in Israel, after NetVision and Zahav).
I'm in no position to tell them what to do though :)
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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il: Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il. I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have problems with that site can do that as well. I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem. The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it. It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing to do with it: 'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11 Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net Address: 212.179.240.11 linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again' Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past? I'll call them again today. Regards, Yotam Rubin Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Windoze only site
Hi Hetz! I found Configure under Settings, and nothing that looked like user-agent. I'm using Konq V1.9.8 under KDE 2.0.1 straight out of the SuSE 7.1 box. Have I missed something? Thanks, Dan Feiglin Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi Daniel, I used jobinfo with Konqueror without any problem On Konqueror go to Window, Configure Konqueror, user-agent. You should set: jobinfo.co.il with MSIE and Windows (like MSIE 5.5 on Windows NT) Then close Konqueror, clean the cache (thats on Proxies and cache on the same configuration windows) and restart Konqueror. This should do the trick.. Good Luck, Hetz On Wednesday 16 May 2001 20:33, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Take a look at www.jobinfo.co.il using mozilla or konqueror. If anyone is interested, I can supply correspondence between this site and myself, the bottom line of which is, (1) What you see on accessing the site: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0005' Invalid procedure call or argument: 'mid' //global.asa, line 141 (2) The official response: Hi Daniel! Our site doesnt support linux's system Sorry to dissapoint you, Regards, (details of their customer service lady) Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Windoze only site
Hello Hetz, I found Configure under Settings, but nothing that looked like user-agent. I'm using Konq v1.9.8 under KDE 2.0.1 straight out of the SuSE 7.1 box. Have I missed something? Regards, Dan Feiglin Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi Daniel, I used jobinfo with Konqueror without any problem On Konqueror go to Window, Configure Konqueror, user-agent. You should set: jobinfo.co.il with MSIE and Windows (like MSIE 5.5 on Windows NT) Then close Konqueror, clean the cache (thats on Proxies and cache on the same configuration windows) and restart Konqueror. This should do the trick.. Good Luck, Hetz On Wednesday 16 May 2001 20:33, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Take a look at www.jobinfo.co.il using mozilla or konqueror. If anyone is interested, I can supply correspondence between this site and myself, the bottom line of which is, (1) What you see on accessing the site: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0005' Invalid procedure call or argument: 'mid' //global.asa, line 141 (2) The official response: Hi Daniel! Our site doesnt support linux's system Sorry to dissapoint you, Regards, (details of their customer service lady) Daniel Feiglin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
