Debian EMERGENCY WARNING
Hello my children, Those of you who use Debian and qmail - DO NOT UPGRADE LIBC BEYOUND libc6_2.3.1-5 It will kill qmail's ability to see errno correctly. Marc -- ---OFCNL This is MY list. This list belongs to ME! I will flame anyone I want. Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: get vesion update
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: kfir lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there a way to get updated automaticly, when a new version of a program i use emerge? Nothing really universal, as the programs that you normally use on a linux system are developed and maintained independently of each other. If you are interested in a particular program, look at its docs, find out who is developing/maintaining it, and if there is a mailing list or a web site (which may have such a mailing list). Subscribing to such a mailing list you will likely get announcements regarding availability of new versions, which is better than nothing. Some Linux distributions, notably Red Hat, have automatic update services for all the packages in their distro. If you are a Red Hat user check out Red Hat Network and the related up2date. Other distros may have similar services. I would not be surprised if a Debian user is writing to you at this very moment how to do it with apt-get and how that is the only true correct solution. That, btw, might just be right, I just don't know about it. ;-) i use www.linuxfromscratch.org ;) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions for RMS
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002, Amir Tal wrote about questions for RMS: we are preparing a list of questions that will be used in an interview we are interested in conducting with RMS in his upcoming visit. the chosen questions (and the answers, of course) will be translated and posted as an article at whatsup.org.il, for public viewing and debating. Here's another question I'd be interested in hearing Stallman's reply to: In several occasions you admitted having started your Free Software efforts as a reaction, or Iantithesis/I, to proprietary software (e.g., your famous printer software anecdote). In the years that have passed, have you noticed any serious flaws in the idea of free-software, flaws that prevent the world from abandoning proprietary software altogether in favor of free software? If so, what do you think a Isynthesis/I between the two approaches might, or should, look like? [note to the interviewer: if this question is chosen and is to be reworded, the words antithesis and synthesis must not be reworded, as they are a deliberate choice of words, referring to the Hegelian dialectic process] -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Dec 24 2002, 19 Tevet 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Communism is the equal distribution of http://nadav.harel.org.il |poverty. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
calendar
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Re: Best open source peer-to-peer network?
On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some marked leader among the open source peer-to-peer networks? The scale is in terms of reliability of the network, how it copes with firewalls, how can someone authenticate the content of the files etc. Also it has to be able to download file PARTS from multiple sources and combine them into one file I think the eDonkey2000 network answers those needs. I can't quantify the reliability of the network but it works reliably for me; a firewall would obviously limit you to downloading from / uploading to people who aren't behind firewalls themselves, but otherwise it works; the content is indexed by MD4 hashes and not file names / sizes so it's easy to authenticate. Of course it downloads parts from multiple sources. I can see two potential problems -- one, even though it's a peer-to-peer network, it does work with servers (which technically works very well but may not precisely fit your definition of peer-to-peer -- it's not like Gnutella in that sense), and two, there is an open-source client for Windows (http://emule.sf.net/), but I'm not sure that there is one for Linux. And even though you didn't ask -- I don't know about music, but it does have an insane amount of movies available, including lots of classics which are otherwise very hard to find. -- Alex Shnitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hectic.net/ UIN 188956 PGP 0xEC5D619D / E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best open source peer-to-peer network?
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 24 Dec: Is there some marked leader among the open source peer-to-peer networks? The scale is in terms of reliability of the network, how it copes with firewalls, how can someone authenticate the content of the files etc. Also it has to be able to download file PARTS from multiple sources and combine them into one file my personal preference these days in the Edonkey network, using the MLdonkey client (on nongnu.org). the files are hashed by MD4 and size and not by name, and there are several sites I trust like sharereactor.com that review the shared files and publish an MD4 that was tested to be authentic, and therefore the amount of false files injected is lowered if you use trusted sources. files are loaded from several places in parallel, and your half-downloaded files are shared with others even before all the chunks are there so efficiency is quite good. to add, there is a score system, where useful/fast/trusted peers are given priority when they try to download and so the net gets better the longer you use it and get trusted by others. the net is completely commercial free, has several OSS clients, and works (partially) behind firewalls. it's not entirely peer to peer yet, as some of the clients play as servers and you need to discover their IP addresses - a list or two are floating and changing addresses but are followed by dynamic DNS. the next generation eDonkey (google for OverNet) should make this obsolete. MLdonkey (written in Objective CAML -which is oddly a functional language) is a bit of a memory hog but much better than other linux clients. rumors say it's not as efficiant as windows' eMule, but YMMV. eMule is also GPL, it's actually hosted on sf.net, but no Linux port. -- Silver screen siren Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. msg24119/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Location of IBM Linux Haifa event
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 04:03:04PM +, Michael Sternberg wrote: Where IBM Linux seminar will be held ? In invitaion it says IBM laboratories in Haifa and on web page it's in Haifa University campus, Auditorium Both places are very close, yet there is still 30-40 minutes or so walking. Anybody does know the exact location ? Room L100 (Auditorium) of the HRL building, which is located in the Haifa University Campus. See http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/visitorinfo.html for details on how to get there, or contact me in private. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda The speed of light really is too slow nowdays. -- Alan Cox = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tracert
HI, You all probably know the upgrade patch to the ALCATEL speed touch home to PRO, Well . . . when I configured the modem to PPP I cant do a tracert . . . it's like no replay from any router besides the alcatel, why ???. All the other things work fine. Thank you. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions for RMS
Quoting Omer Zak, from the post of Tue, 24 Dec: Currently, the FSF has title to lots of GPLed software and encourages independent developers of GPLed software to assign title to it, because it has the resources to defend the copyright in court, if necessary. it also reserves the right to refuse to take the copyright of any random package, they take only packages they see worthy and legitimate and in their interest. Also, most of the GPLed software is released under Version 2 or any later version of the GPL. the point here is or, to say that you have a choice. the new version can't retroactively override anything in the older GPL. What will happen if: 1. Another gang succeeds RMS and his loyal supporters in FSF; and that gang is not as committed to the ideals of Free Software. Such a gang will eventually find a way to subvert the intentions of FSF in a way detrimental to the spirit of RMS and today's FSF and GPL. then all new versions of the software are potentially screwed. take the last-known-good version that was released as GPL before the takeover and continue developping it from there out of the new evil FSF's reach. the GPL protects that right. 2. What if someday the people controlling FSF release Version 5 of the GPL, which says that they (FSF) alone are allowed the rights; and other people have to pay royalties (e.g. to pay for court costs incurred by the need to defend GPL). then any software released under GPL 5 only should not be trusted. all software already released as GPL2 or later is just that. you choose, when you download the tarball, if you are recieving it under the terms of GPL 2, 3, 4 or 5 (I chose 2 for now :) and the new evil GPL doesn't bother you. 3. What if FSF is driven somehow to bankruptcy (even if due to no fault of its own) and its creditors take over all GPLed software assigned to it and re-release it under MS-like terms. they can't retroactively close the source of GPLed code. Kod meshukhrar lo yukhzar. they can only poison newer versions of the software. this is part of the viral nature of the GPL that MS hates so much - even if you get the copyright of a code and close it, the older versions are already out and about. -- Amazing escape artist Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. msg24122/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: More questions for RMS
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: 2. What if someday the people controlling FSF release Version 5 of the GPL, which says that they (FSF) alone are allowed the rights; and other people have to pay royalties (e.g. to pay for court costs incurred by the need to defend GPL). then any software released under GPL 5 only should not be trusted. all software already released as GPL2 or later is just that. you choose, when you download the tarball, if you are recieving it under the terms of GPL 2, 3, 4 or 5 (I chose 2 for now :) and the new evil GPL doesn't bother you. They can't limit rights already granted in version 5, but they actually CAN add a clause that allows additional rights (like the right to change and use it in closed-source modules) to those who pay them royalties. You can look at what TrollTech is doing as an example. Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) -- -=[ Random Fortune ]=- Death before dishonor. But neither before breakfast. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: calendar
On 2002-12-24, kfir lavi wrote: 2. i have used outlook calendar, and i'm searching for a tool that works in windows and linux, that will get my calendar from outlook. recommendations ? I don't know about your situation, but my employer uses M$exchange, so I am forced to connect to that. Luckily exchange does have a web interface, and it works with any java-enabled browser. so I can actually edit my appointments from linux/mozilla without being forced to use windows. my outlook looks like this: alias outlook='mozilla http://MYCOMPANY/exchange/exchange.asp' = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions for RMS
hey cool, an actual ON TOPIC thread on linux-il, I'm so excited :) Quoting Alon Altman, from the post of Tue, 24 Dec: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: 2. What if someday the people controlling FSF release Version 5 of the GPL, which says that they (FSF) alone are allowed the rights; and other people have to pay royalties (e.g. to pay for court costs incurred by the need to defend GPL). then any software released under GPL 5 only should not be trusted. all software already released as GPL2 or later is just that. you choose, when you download the tarball, if you are recieving it under the terms of GPL 2, 3, 4 or 5 (I chose 2 for now :) and the new evil GPL doesn't bother you. They can't limit rights already granted in version 5, but they actually CAN add a clause that allows additional rights (like the right to change and use it in closed-source modules) to those who pay them royalties. You can look at what TrollTech is doing as an example. if they own the copyright, they can do whatever the fsck they want with new versions, like release it under two licenses (which is basicly what GPL2 or later means). if GPL5 says you can withhold your patches and redist if gratis it's a really interesting question though. it violates the spirit of the old GPL as well as takes away freedoms. this absurd situation is possible in theory if the FSF Amuta rules lets anyone to overthrow and kick out the current heads of it. humm. scary thought. stop that! -- All in favor say, Awwight Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. msg24125/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: calendar
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, kfir lavi wrote: hi, 1. i use mozilla as my email client in windows. can i use my box from linuxtoo? Quite problematic. I think there is something in the mozilla FAQs about this. But maybe put all thw mail on an IMAP server? 2. i have used outlook calendar, and i'm searching for a tool that works in windows and linux, that will get my calendar from outlook. recommendations ? You can export the outlook calendar to an iCalendar file on a file or a remote URL. Many clients, like the mozilla calendar (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/) , evolution and kde's calendar can read the data from this file. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: calendar
Kroupware is very promising its founded by the German goverment and I hope it will be out in few months This server can make revolution as apache did in the past http://kroupware.kde.org -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://sites.canaan.co.il -- - Original Message - From: kfir lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: calendar hi, 1. i use mozilla as my email client in windows. can i use my box from linux too? 2. i have used outlook calendar, and i'm searching for a tool that works in windows and linux, that will get my calendar from outlook. recommendations ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian EMERGENCY WARNING
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Re: calendar
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, kfir lavi wrote: hi, 1. i use mozilla as my email client in windows. can i use my box from linuxtoo? Quite problematic. I think there is something in the mozilla FAQs about this. But maybe put all thw mail on an IMAP server? 2. i have used outlook calendar, and i'm searching for a tool that works in windows and linux, that will get my calendar from outlook. recommendations ? You can export the outlook calendar to an iCalendar file on a file or a remote URL. Many clients, like the mozilla calendar (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/) , evolution and kde's calendar can read the data from this file. outlook has just import for icalendar file. it has export to dBase Access Exel and regular files. what should i do? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: get vesion update
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 10:42:40AM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: kfir lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there a way to get updated automaticly, when a new version of a program i use emerge? i use www.linuxfromscratch.org ;) Maybe you should ask on its mailing lists? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: get version update
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 10:42:40AM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: kfir lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there a way to get updated automaticly, when a new version of a program i use emerge? i use www.linuxfromscratch.org ;) Maybe you should ask on its mailing lists? I forgot, for RPM-based distros there is also GRAB (http://rpm-grab.org), maybe there is a set of options that will allow you to run autoupdate through cron, resolving dependencies on the way. I'd consider it risky. Disclaimer: I have not used GRAB myself. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB printer problem
MDK 9.0 did a perfect job of detecting and installing my printer. But after a couple of days, the printer stopped working. The program I was printing from didn't give any indication that the printing was not successful. After trying to reinstall the printer and not succeeding, I went to the **extreme** of re-installing MDK. The installation only took a few minutes, since no packages had to be re-installed. And the printer started working again. But again, this lasted about 2 days and it stopped working again. I decided to try harder to find the reason and here's what I found using the CUPS WWW tool: Description: EPSON Stylus COLOR 670 Location: shlomo1 Printer State: processing, accepting jobs. Unable to open USB port device file /dev/usb/lp0: No such device Device URI: usb:/dev/usb/lp0 And here's what I found in /var/log/cups/error_log: I [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Job 22 queued on 'shlomo1_670_usb' by 'root'. I [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4233) for job 22. I [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4234) for job 22. I [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 4235) for job 22. E [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Unable to open USB port device file /dev/usb/lp0: No such device E [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] PID 4235 stopped with status 1! I [24/Dec/2002:18:34:55 +0200] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to debug to find out more. Since this seems to be a USB problem, I used usbview and the usb viewer (from the KDE control panel) and both seem to indicate that USB is working. The printer is correctly identified by both utilities. Also, my USB scanner works fine. BTW, I looked everywhere I could think of and couldn't find where to set loglevel to debug as the above error message suggests. So, I have two questions: 1 - can anyone suggest what the problem is? 2 - can anyone tell me where to set the loglevel in /var/log/cups/error_log? TIA -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome-terminal and hebrew in mutt
note I apologize if this e-mail was sent twice, my net connection dropped and I can't find out if it was after or before I pressed the Send button /note Hello Group ! Lately I received some hebrew messages in mutt mailer, and mutt, is being run with gnome-terminal that comes with the default RH8.0 installation. Now the problem, is that to see hebrew, I have to change the terminal's font and mutt's encoding... I have changed the encoding (in .muttrc) but had problems with the gnome-terminal Fonts/Profile dialog. It seems it doesn't support any iso8859-8 fonts... After googling a little bit, I found an interesting discussion in some debian mailing list and found that gnome-terminal (of gnome2) doesn't support Thai Chiniese neither. Also in the discussion I found they recommend another terminal : mlterm - Now does anybody have a better alternative ? Anyone ever succeded viewing hebrew/iso8859-8 messages through mutt ? I tried to save the file and open it with another hebrew-support-enabled-viewer but I only saw '?''s which seems to be the '?' symbol and not the can-not-read-hebrew one. Is there anyway to enable iso8859-8/iso10646-1 fonts in Gnome2 dialog ? These type of fonts are not even listed in the Gnome - Preferences - Font dialog... If there is no solution, but waiting for the next update of gnome, then, do you have any idea for a better terminal, which has the ability to change Fonts/Colors and other features of gnome-terminal (from Gnome2) that can be changed without any struggling ? TIA -- a href=http://www.rootshell.be/~eg;Eliran Gonen/a = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
latin keyboard layout - (now with my correct email address for iglu)
Note: I seem to have some trouble with my email filter, and this is my third attempt to send this message. Hope it works now. I apologize if all attempts went through. Hi, I am moving (closer to Israel) from the US to Switzerland and will need to use umlauted (for German) and accented (for French) characters. I have no desire to learn a radically new keyboard layout; Qwerty and Israeli is enough for me. I found a couple of keyboard layout images here: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/keyboards/latin.html and I played around with KDE's keyboard selector, but could not find what layout the web page's corresponds to. So... * Does anybody know of another keyboard layout that covers pretty much the same breadth of accented characters as the one on the web page above (I need umlauts and accents at the very least. All additional characters, such as copyright, trademark, ... are a boon), or * does anybody recognize which keyboard layout the web page displays and what setting I should use to replicate that under X? in the console? Finally, I was wondering about the model. I have my keyboard model set to generic 104 pc. However, my extra keyboard (primary keyboard is the laptop's builtin one, but I often use an external keyboard) has 107 keys, the 104 layout plus power, sleep and wake up keys, yet there is no 107 key layout. How do I make X recognize those keys exist (I will worry about mapping something to them later)? And I also notice that KDE insists that the left win key is a modifier. How do I change that key into a non modifier key? Thanks, Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde 3.1 RC5 menus
i've upgraded to RC5 a few days ago, and i noticed that in some of kde's applications there's a big mess in the menu's. some of the menu's in Kmail are titled no text!, and in konqueror, some menu's are duplicated. also, there are some duplicated toolbar buttons. does this have anything to do with the fact that the old qt packages were upgraded (current qt is 3.1.0), and if not, what am i missing ? i know for a fact that RC5 doesn't suppose to have those problems. tal. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flyvideo2000 TV card
Does anyone on the list have one of these? I made sure it's on the Linux Hardware compatibility list before buying it, but didn't realize that this card is not one of the bt848 etc cards. It has a Philips saa7130 chip. This chip is supported, but after Googling for over an hour, all I know is that it requires a kernel compilation, and even then, I'm not completely sure the card will work (althouh it is listed on the saa7130 development site). Before I get into compiling the kernel for this driver, I'd like to know if anyone has done it and/or succeeded in using this card. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flyvideo2000 TV card
Hi,
It should be supported by the bttv kernel driver.
Check out {Your Linux Source Tree}/Documetnation/video4linux/bttv/Cards -
It's there, with this exact chip. I suggest you'll read a bit about bttv.
I have no experience with this card (using FlyvideoII which is different
in many ways) though, so I cannot tell you that *I* made it work.
- Oren
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, shlomo solomon wrote:
Does anyone on the list have one of these? I made sure it's on the Linux
Hardware compatibility list before buying it, but didn't realize that this
card is not one of the bt848 etc cards. It has a Philips saa7130 chip. This
chip is supported, but after Googling for over an hour, all I know is that it
requires a kernel compilation, and even then, I'm not completely sure the
card will work (althouh it is listed on the saa7130 development site). Before
I get into compiling the kernel for this driver, I'd like to know if anyone
has done it and/or succeeded in using this card.
--
Shlomo Solomon
http://come.to/shlomo.solomon
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Re: Flyvideo2000 TV card
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, shlomo solomon wrote: Does anyone on the list have one of these? I made sure it's on the Linux Hardware compatibility list before buying it, but didn't realize that this card is not one of the bt848 etc cards. It has a Philips saa7130 chip. This chip is supported, but after Googling for over an hour, all I know is that it requires a kernel compilation, and even then, I'm not completely sure the card will work (althouh it is listed on the saa7130 development site). Before I get into compiling the kernel for this driver, I'd like to know if anyone has done it and/or succeeded in using this card. Yes, I've compiled the kernel and it works. I'm currently using version 0.1.6 of the driver (with the older v4l2 patches). I've tried the latest version (0.2.2), but sound didn't work correctly, and the system (PAL) was not detected correctly. With version 0.1.6, all works OK on my system except for these problems: - Video capture (with streamer) hangs the system, however capturing images seems to work OK. - The remote control does not work at all, and is not supported by Lirc (yet?). For reference, the driver's site is http://bytesex.org/saa7130 Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) -- -=[ Random Fortune ]=- Do you guys know what you're doing, or are you just hacking? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.1 RC5 menus
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:32, Michael Stolovitzsky wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:15, Amir Tal wrote: i've upgraded to RC5 a few days ago, and i noticed that in some of kde's applications there's a big mess in the menu's. some of the menu's in Kmail are titled no text!, and in konqueror, some menu's are duplicated. also, there are some duplicated toolbar buttons. does this have anything to do with the fact that the old qt packages were upgraded (current qt is 3.1.0), and if not, what am i missing ? i know for a fact that RC5 doesn't suppose to have those problems. tal. Nope, my guess would be the packaging system screwed up, specifying a wrong base name for KDE. this will be weird, since i know of at least 2 people that are using the same system as me (debian sid) and installed from the same source (using apt-get). so unless this is a system-specific bug, i have no idea what can be that cause for that... tal. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flyvideo2000 TV card
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Oren Held wrote:
Hi,
It should be supported by the bttv kernel driver.
Check out {Your Linux Source Tree}/Documetnation/video4linux/bttv/Cards -
It's there, with this exact chip. I suggest you'll read a bit about bttv.
I have no experience with this card (using FlyvideoII which is different
in many ways) though, so I cannot tell you that *I* made it work.
I own the card mentioned, and it's a totally different card also called
FlyVideo 2000, and has the saa7134 chipset. If you look in the cards list,
it's there. The bttv driver ONLY supports bttv.
Alon
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Re: get vesion update
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 08:42, kfir lavi wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: kfir lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there a way to get updated automaticly, when a new version of a program i use emerge? Nothing really universal, as the programs that you normally use on a linux system are developed and maintained independently of each other. If you are interested in a particular program, look at its docs, find out who is developing/maintaining it, and if there is a mailing list or a web site (which may have such a mailing list). Subscribing to such a mailing list you will likely get announcements regarding availability of new versions, which is better than nothing. Some Linux distributions, notably Red Hat, have automatic update services for all the packages in their distro. If you are a Red Hat user check out Red Hat Network and the related up2date. Other distros may have similar services. I would not be surprised if a Debian user is writing to you at this very moment how to do it with apt-get and how that is the only true correct solution. That, btw, might just be right, I just don't know about it. ;-) i use www.linuxfromscratch.org ;) How about registering for update notifications about the software you have installed on freshmeat ? You'll be notified via mail. You can also get software info (including version among the rest) as an xml file from freshmeat. From that, extracting version info and comparing to the version stored in a file (for example) is a simple script in you're preffered language. -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
