Mail RFC compliance (was RE: [JOB OFFER] MLM implementation)
-Original Message- From: Vadim Vygonets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoth Arik Baratz on Tue, Jul 01, 2003: Whoever you are PLEASE OH PLEASE make sure the envelope FROM is blank when they send system messages. Today they are sending me tons of messages, replying to the error message my server sends when the user does not exist. What kind of system messages? Some system messages are supposed to have a valid non-empty sender address, so the list admin can unsubscribe people who have their messages bounced. I'll send this to the list, because I think it has an educational value: Two servers - let's call them MITOS and VIDIUS. 1. MITOS sends mail to VIDIUS. MITOS fills in the MAIL FROM envelope field [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The RCPT TO field is an invalid user on the VIDIUS server. 2. VIDIUS sends a reply message to MITOS, saying the user is invalid. The MAIL FROM is blank, and the RCPT TO is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This behavior is dictated by RFC 2821 - which (to sum it up) says that a reply message must be sent, that it must be sent to the envelope sender, and it must be sent with a blank sender. 3. MITOS, in defiance of RFC 2821, answers to the address in the message's HEADERS. This behavior is expressly forbidden in the aforementioned RFC. The correct behavior is NOT to answer (automatically) any message with a blank MAIL FROM envelope field. 4. Since the address in the headers happens to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], again in compliance with the RFC, the message is received by VIDIUS, and goes to - you guessed it - my mailbox. So, instead of collecting the bounces and (*GASP*) unsubscribing invalid users or even silently discarding them, MITOS interprets parts of the message it has no business interpreting and disregards the RFC's explicit instructions to the contrary. There was another site that was causing this to happen, but I will not name it because a small talk with the sysadmin there resolved the matter in no-time. And yes, it's a popular Israeli site. Other culprits that does this frequently are vacation programs of sorts (a.k.a. 'Out of office reply'). Read the RFC, people! You will discover that instead of replying to the From: header field, it's the 'Return-Path:' header, and then only if it's non-empty. This header receives what was formerly the MAIL FROM envelope field. If it's automatic - it should reply to this. If it's manual - you can do whatever you want, because there's a human in the loop. The reader this message encounters not failing to understand is cursed. Aiee -- Arik = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli DMCA looming?
Hi, On June 30th, Globes Ha'erev (page 4) lists goals and deadlines which were set by the PM to the various government ministries. The following is one of the goals set for the Ministry of Justice: Improvement in protection of patents. Completion and application during 2004. Improvement of Israel's status in regard to money laundering and protection of intellectual property. Whatever it means, it should be followed very closely. Experience has shown that such laws are often kept from public scrutiny until it's too late. Please share any information you encounter on this matter. Also, I'll take this opportunity to urge people to join Hamakor. Hamakor is probably best equipped to represent certain aspects of the public interest in this matter, and wide membership will strenghten their position. Regards, Eran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli DMCA looming?
Quoting Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Improvement in protection of patents. Completion and application during 2004. Improvement of Israel's status in regard to money laundering and protection of intellectual property. .. Also, I'll take this opportunity to urge people to join Hamakor. Hamakor is probably best equipped to represent certain aspects of the public interest in this matter, and wide membership will strenghten their position. I'm pretty sure the intention of the above paragraph is to solve the problem of music piracy which is very serious in Israel. I'm not talking about file sharers but about all those counterfeit CD factories and counterfeit cds being available in broad daylight in respectable shopping malls. I'm not sure Hamakor will even be considered as a side in this issue, even though they may come up with a DMCA-style law that will affect both pirates, people who play legal music off their iPods (heh), and people who try to build a bloody driver for a new model of DVD player. If you come to the relevant committee now as a representative of free software, they'll just scrape their heads and not understand what you have to do with the issue. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux in israeli education system
I found few link in the new http://schoolforge.net and ofcourse in http://www.linuxforkids.org/ there seems to be a lot of opensource projects around too many for me to go over all of them. so if anyone is intersted Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli DMCA looming?
On 2003/07/02 16:42, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Improvement in protection of patents. Completion and application during 2004. Improvement of Israel's status in regard to money laundering and protection of intellectual property. I'm pretty sure the intention of the above paragraph is to solve the problem of music piracy which is very serious in Israel. I'm not talking about file sharers but about all those counterfeit CD factories and counterfeit cds being available in broad daylight in respectable shopping malls. Yes, CD factory busting is relevant to neither Hamakor nor this list (or is it? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3510183). But having observed certain patterns and interests, I am wary about revisions to IP laws. I thus called for alertness, not action. Eran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Streaming OGG
Hey, Thanks. Works just fine for me with Totem/Shoutcast though the web site renders quite poorly. btw this is the (heart warming) welcome message: Hello, Linux user! Virgin Radio is available in your favourite MP3 player (and Real) - the other stations are just in Real format. You can download a Linux version of Real Player from Real.com. You can also listen to our Windows streams with Crossover. By popular demand, we now also have two Ogg streams: thanks for asking for them, and please suggest suitable players to our web team. On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 22:58, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Just to add something to the web pages that support open standards, debate I would like to point to www.virginradio.co.uk. Not only does their website work with Mozilla. they have a listen live page that works with Linux. There are four different streams that are available, all of them are available in both windows media and real player format. The stream that is live from their radio station is also available in streaming OGG. That's right, real honest-to-goodness open standards. I'm impressed. Geoff. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone has filter files for Privoxy to block adult content?
Hello all, I am looking for Privoxy config files that will block adult sites, etc. I also need them to allow users to use webmail sites, etc, and I don't care much about the privacy features of Privoxy. I tried looking for them on the web, but then thought I'd ask the group for help. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Amit -- Amit Margalit = ..computer hardware progress is so fast. No other technology since civilization began has seen six orders of magnitude in performance-price gain in 30 years. - Fred Brooks, Jr. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:34:10PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: hmmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 Maybe this effect the Xkb ? locale -a|grep utf ar_IN.utf8 en_IN.utf8 fa_IR.utf8 hi_IN.utf8 ko_KR.utf8 mr_IN.utf8 se_NO.utf8 ta_IN.utf8 te_IN.utf8 ur_PK.utf8 vi_VN.utf8 Generate one. But use the name: he_IL.UTF-8. (utf8 vs. UTF-8 shouldn't make a difference, but then again, someone might actually rely on the charset part in the future) And I was going to add: A UTF-8 locale takes some extra space But then I tried to locate the locale files, I found none, ascept /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive I was not aware of this locale-archive before. I'm not sure the command 'locale -a' is aware of at now: $ locale -a C POSIX Yes, I do have proper he_IL (which is ISO-8859-8) , he_IL.UTF-8, en_US and en_US-UTF-8 , accoring to my /etc/locale.gen (debian-specific), and those locales seem fully-functional. -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple GLIBCs
Hi List Running Red Hat 7.3 requires me to recompile everything I want from Red Hat 9 (or that is avaliable to Red Hat) before I install it. I'm looking for a way to co-install GLIBC 2.3 with the existing GLIBC 2.1. Any opinions? Thanks, Isaac (Itzik) Aaron To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patents or copyright ? [was Re: Israeli DMCA looming?]
Actually, although there is a reference to IP in general, from all the types of IP (patents, trademarks, copyrights, trade-secrets, are those I'm aware of), only the first gets mentioned specificly. AFAIK, Patents are largely irrelevant to music-copying (a copyright issue), or to DMCA (again, mainly a copyright-aimed law) Patents, on the other hand, can (and often do) directly affect SW, and especially _new_ SW (as opposed with ripped copies of *.exe or *.wav ) So, any change w.r.t. patent-policy should interest HAMAKOR greatly. In fact, it should, IMHO, be very high on HAMAKOR's agenda. Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Improvement in protection of patents. Completion and application during 2004. Improvement of Israel's status in regard to money laundering and protection of intellectual property. I'm pretty sure the intention of the above paragraph is to solve the problem of music piracy which is very serious in Israel. I'm not talking about file sharers but about all those counterfeit CD factories and counterfeit cds being available in broad daylight in respectable shopping malls. -- -- regards +--- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. + http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/~guybar +--- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
