Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 01:28, Boaz Rymland wrote: Further more, don't get me wrong. I did not conclude my verdict on OSS security from this simple demonstration of a weak point. Not at all. Without going into details I think the opposite - I prefer openess over obscurity, taking in mind the price we have to pay for defending against OSS weak points such as the one demonstrated. Without saying whether that's a good demonstration or a bad demonstration, lets remember what the demonstration actually was. - Someone broke into an account authorized of making changes to the kernel source - They than changed a line of code in the kernel source using that account - This code was comitted to the source tree - This was rejected because of inproper procedure, and also because it looked suspicious (the comments weren't filled in) - It was stopped at that point; there was never a snapshot of the kernel with that code, not to mention an official release The analogy to a commercial company is: - Someone breaks into an account that has access to the product CVS tree - That attacker changes the source to insert a Trojan - The break-in is detected, the offending code removes - Nobody ever hears about it - this stays within the company. The security hole is found and plugged and none of the company's customers are aware of this (almost) breach The difference is, you will never hear of the latter case, since it is solved within the company. Therefore there is no way to assess whether these situations appear more on OS projects than on commercial projects. BTW, when I say never hear, I mean never hear officially. Rumours are always there, but nobody can be certain: http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/6E00L2000E.html -- - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?
Interesting message I got. Isn't that a demonstration of the *real* (no FUD) open source model security break points? Actually, you just pointed out one of Open Source scurity model greatest strenghts, no weaknesses. How come? Well, think about what happend here: someone managed to gain unlawfull access to a distribution point of Linux source code and altered the code to instroduce a back door. The fact the file changed was found out by an sanity check but the true nature of the change (being a backdoor) was understood when the altered code was inspected by the community. Now, what would have happend if this was a run of the mill closed source security firm? First of all, I seriously doubt it that the fact of the change would have been detected at all, but even if it were the sys admin discovering it would fix the technical problem and would never ever send it to the RD (which are another dept. which is hated by the IT team). The nature of the change would never be detected and the back door might never even corrected, assuming the sys admin fix woulb to ignore the error. In short - people breaking in and putting in back door happen in both open and closed source. But only in Open SOurce there's a real chance that someone would discover it. In closed source land it's always someone else's problem. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust (tm) http://www.codefidence.com Half of one of my eyes is already open. I'm going to make coffee now... -- Kathi 16:08:04 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?
Well, you certainly got a point there. One could claim that such source compromises are possible with closed source SW too and in such a case, indeed logical to assume, it is more difficulty finding, verifying and correcting the code AND, closing the security hole through which the intruder got in (not to mention finding it). Due to the nature of such organizations, they are naturally more confident in their security obtained from their closeness than prepared for such breaches. That sounds logical. Yet, one cannot claim that the openness of OSS is just and strictly an advantage. It's a different SW development approach that its structure has its inherited *possible* weaknesses. Identifying and arranging for such incidents in the structure of the development process is what makes this model safe, and indeed, this case is an example of such a preparation and successful execution. In terms of OSS public relations there are two important thigns here: A. indeed, the openness brings its own issues (not to say, problems) that needs to be admitted, not quickly silenced (but of course to supplemented with the complimenting answer - see B). Such breaches can be easily performed within close source organization, and must have already happened - *but surely not so easily admitted*. B. Yet, arranging for these issues makes the security of the OSS model at least as good, if not better, than closed source SW, exactly as demonstrated by this real world case and the letters in this thread demonstrated similar breaches within closed source organization and *their* consequences. In short - there is a weak point in the openness model. it is greatly acknowledged and treated hence achieving a better security model. Don't be impressed by the publicity it gets - you just dont hear of such cases in closed source organizations. My point of view, at least. Boaz. Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Interesting message I got. Isn't that a demonstration of the *real* (no FUD) open source model security break points? Actually, you just pointed out one of Open Source scurity model greatest strenghts, no weaknesses. How come? Well, think about what happend here: someone managed to gain unlawfull access to a distribution point of Linux source code and altered the code to instroduce a back door. The fact the file changed was found out by an sanity check but the true nature of the change (being a backdoor) was understood when the altered code was inspected by the community. Now, what would have happend if this was a run of the mill closed source security firm? First of all, I seriously doubt it that the fact of the change would have been detected at all, but even if it were the sys admin discovering it would fix the technical problem and would never ever send it to the RD (which are another dept. which is hated by the IT team). The nature of the change would never be detected and the back door might never even corrected, assuming the sys admin fix woulb to ignore the error. In short - people breaking in and putting in back door happen in both open and closed source. But only in Open SOurce there's a real chance that someone would discover it. In closed source land it's always someone else's problem. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:11, Boaz Rymland wrote: In short - there is a weak point in the openness model. it is greatly acknowledged and treated hence achieving a better security model. Don't be impressed by the publicity it gets - you just dont hear of such cases in closed source organizations. I wouldn't call it a weaknes in the openess model, maybe a weakness in the PR case of open source. The problem exists in both closed and open software, it's just that open source software cannot hide it. Therefore: a. It's visible. b. Open Source software put in place to handle the issue, as much as it can be handled. The interesting question (for me, at least) is: are we doing a good job of handling the problem? My feeling about the answer is that we are doing a terrible job, but it's still better then closed source software which are simply denying the problem exists and doing nothing, because they can get away with it. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust (tm) http://www.codefidence.com Half of one of my eyes is already open. I'm going to make coffee now... -- Kathi 16:08:04 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open office and formula
IIRC, the red '?' signify the fact that the formula you entered is not in the correct format. e.g. writing langle a rangl is incorrect because of the missing 'e' at the end of 'rangle' yuval. Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have downloaded Openoffice 1.1.0, and i'm writing in hebrew very good. When i export to pdf i see the hebrew and the english. My problem is here: When i try to insert a formula, i see all chars of the formula one on another, with a lot of red '?'. When i export the file to pdf, i don't see the formula at all. Tnx Kfir Lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Yuval Aviel. --- Interdisciplinary center for neural computation Hebrew University, Jerusalem Israel --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
protecting one's IP
Hi, The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to his application). Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in the level of protecting the code itself. Of course it is all done on linux (PPC or x86 version). Thanks, Ilan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: protecting one's IP
Just a though. Asking open source related people how to make code more closed is like asking a pagan to interpret a bible :-))) Anyway, everything can be hacked, reverse engineered or decrypted. The question is how much money are you willing to spend on protecting your information versus the importance of protection of such information. - Original Message - From: Ilan Finci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: protecting one's IP Hi, The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to his application). Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in the level of protecting the code itself. Of course it is all done on linux (PPC or x86 version). Thanks, Ilan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: protecting one's IP
Hi Ilan,
I think that you are asking the wrong list. The denizens of this list
spend most of their time working to ensure the oposite of what you want.
- yba
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote:
Hi,
The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential
clients to test.
The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given
API the client use to connect it to his application).
Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to
do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of
course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in
the level of protecting the code itself.
Of course it is all done on linux (PPC or x86 version).
Thanks,
Ilan
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Re: open office and formula
Yuval Aviel wrote: IIRC, the red '?' signify the fact that the formula you entered is not in the correct format. e.g. writing langle a rangl is incorrect because of the missing 'e' at the end of 'rangle' yuval. Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have downloaded Openoffice 1.1.0, and i'm writing in hebrew very good. When i export to pdf i see the hebrew and the english. My problem is here: When i try to insert a formula, i see all chars of the formula one on another, with a lot of red '?'. When i export the file to pdf, i don't see the formula at all. Tnx Kfir Lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] When i enter a correct fomula ( a cdot b ), its appearing in the pdf file but looks like gibrish. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: protecting one's IP
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to his application). Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in the level of protecting the code itself. This is off topic, as has already been said, but I must add that if the company tries to hide a patented algorithm, the best thing to do is to dissolve the company immediately. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake update mirrors in Israel?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 01:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 12 hours from request to an active mailing list+archive. Not too bad, I think. The full details are available on http://mirror.hamakor.org.il. The Better than **not bad** :-), but there's one small problem. If I read the details on http://mirror.hamakor.org.il correctly, as useful as the information is, it still doesn't answer Herouth's original question that started this thread, and that is where to find an up-to-date update site for Mandrake 9.1. I admit that until reading the thread, I hadn't noticed that recently, running Mandrake Update against the IGLU mirror doesn't update anything - how silly of me :-(. So to repeat Herouth's question: Any clues? Alternative mirrors that are actually up-to-date? I'm talking about security/bugfix mirrors, not the ISO or the net install. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.1) on LINUX Mandrake 9.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open office and formula
Kfir Lavi wrote: Yuval Aviel wrote: IIRC, the red '?' signify the fact that the formula you entered is not in the correct format. e.g. writing langle a rangl is incorrect because of the missing 'e' at the end of 'rangle' yuval. Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have downloaded Openoffice 1.1.0, and i'm writing in hebrew very good. When i export to pdf i see the hebrew and the english. My problem is here: When i try to insert a formula, i see all chars of the formula one on another, with a lot of red '?'. When i export the file to pdf, i don't see the formula at all. Tnx Kfir Lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] When i enter a correct fomula ( a cdot b ), its appearing in the pdf file but looks like gibrish. Works fine for me (RH9). yuval. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fedora
Hi, I am new to the list and was wondering if anyone has experience with getting hebrew up and running on fedora, and any tips if possible. Thanks Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kmail configuration question
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KDE translation team is looking for translators
Hi all! The subject says it all. If you want more details, fell free to visit: http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=2264mode=flatorder=0thold=0 There is also a post in the Penguin, and some other local forums. I hope this will bring new life to this project. -- diego, Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake update mirrors in Israel?
Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 01:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 12 hours from request to an active mailing list+archive. Not too bad, I think. The full details are available on http://mirror.hamakor.org.il. The Better than **not bad** :-), but there's one small problem. If I read the details on http://mirror.hamakor.org.il correctly, as useful as the information is, it still doesn't answer Herouth's original question that started this thread, and that is where to find an up-to-date update site for Mandrake 9.1. I admit that until reading the thread, I hadn't noticed that recently, running Mandrake Update against the IGLU mirror doesn't update anything - how silly of me :-(. So to repeat Herouth's question: Any clues? Alternative mirrors that are actually up-to-date? I'm talking about security/bugfix mirrors, not the ISO or the net install. Hmm - I could have sworn that, when I made the change, I also updated the site. The idea is this - for static information (for example - I'm looking for a Mandrake mirror, where can I find one?), you go to http://mirror.hamakor.org.il. For updates (I'm using a mandrake mirror from http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/, and I want to make sure that if it goes down, I get prior notice), you subscribe to the mirror-announce mailing list. In this case, neither announcement nor static site update worked too well. My appologies. The site has now been updated, and I'll also send a message to the list. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open office and formula
nop, I did nothing special. Kfir Lavi wrote: Yuval Aviel wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: Yuval Aviel wrote: IIRC, the red '?' signify the fact that the formula you entered is not in the correct format. e.g. writing langle a rangl is incorrect because of the missing 'e' at the end of 'rangle' yuval. Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have downloaded Openoffice 1.1.0, and i'm writing in hebrew very good. When i export to pdf i see the hebrew and the english. My problem is here: When i try to insert a formula, i see all chars of the formula one on another, with a lot of red '?'. When i export the file to pdf, i don't see the formula at all. Tnx Kfir Lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] When i enter a correct fomula ( a cdot b ), its appearing in the pdf file but looks like gibrish. Works fine for me (RH9). yuval. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] did you do pre config for formula and openoffice? -- Regards, Yuval Aviel. --- Interdisciplinary center for neural computation Hebrew University, Jerusalem Israel --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suggestion (was: Re: Instaparty - Thanks)
Hello Adir, Could you compile a checklist based upon your experience in the instaparty: List what you and the other organizers did, list what you overlooked, and list what you wish you'd have done earler. The checklist can later be put in one of the Israeli Linux Web sites for the benefit of all future instaparty organizers. --- Omer My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: Hi all, I would like to thank all the people who organized the instaparty. I believe that it was a great success and without you it wouldn't happen. I would also like to thank all the people who came to see what it is all about, and got impressed from the event. This time, we had been much more organized than last times, and this kind of organization helped us to give better service for the installees and the people who came to hear the lectures. Nevertheless, what makes me happier is that we still have alot to improve, yet it was a success. I believe that some mistakes that we did(naturally), will not return next time (and probably new mistakes will arrive ;). Last but not least - many thanks to all the sponsors who helped us. I hope to keep the cooperation with you also in the next instaparties. Best regards and good day. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in themessage body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MS-SBS FUD
I came across the following FUD article in the MS site: http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/mssmbiz.pdf What I found most striking is that MS chose not to include the people and resource scheduling as a part of their requirements. Exchange is the MS Killer Application, yet they chose not to include it. Note that I am not referring to Outlook compatibility. This can be achieved using the Bynari plug in. Free/Busy checking does not even need the plug in. The document is good reading, because it does highlight the perceived shortcomings of linux, and the tactics used by MS to magnify them. Gil -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A good Linux advocacy read
While I did not read the following in full, it does look like a good description of migration path from Windows to Linux: http://www.kbst.bund.de/Anlage303807/pdf_datei.pdf This is a valuable reference for Linux advocacy, as it highlight linux and OFSS primarily on technical merits. -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fedora
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:52:05PM +0200, Aaron wrote: Hi, I am new to the list and was wondering if anyone has experience with getting hebrew up and running on fedora, and any tips if possible. Thanks Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] First you might explain what you mean by getting Hebrew up. Are you referring to enabling all the typical application with Hebrew such as Openoffice, Web and mail? Are you referring to a specific application under Fedora? There should not be any significant differences between setting up Hebrew under Fedora and say, RedHat Linux 9. Most of what you can find on the Net that relates to RH9 will be true about its derivative; Fedora. I'm running both RH9 and Fedora at home on a number of boxes (some with Hebrew) so feel free to mail me off-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] with specifics if you feel like it. -- Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice Regards, Yoni Rabkin Katzenell pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GNOME print stuff
Hi Behdad, All I know is that last time ago (which is ages ago) they were starting to think about pango support. I have no idea if they have progressed with it. I can also tell you that in Fedora Core there is only the gnome-print package installed which is based on glib-1 without pango. So I guess that sources is really the place to look for it at this time. Let me guess that using my paps program (http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/freesw/paps) is not really an option... Regards, Dov On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 05:48:52PM -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi Dov and others, Got a technical question, can you briefly let me know where's GNOME's printing system standing with respect to Arabic and Hebrew? I see the test.utf8 file there in libgnomeprint sources, but have no luck on Arabic yet. Any references, ideas, ... Thanks a lot behdad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for Quantum HD for desparate data recovery
Yes, it was bound to happen. My web-server computer at the Weizmann Institute short-circuited and once the smoke cleared out, there was the 10G harddisk with the only copy of lots of data that I am dying to restore... I tried to connect the HD to another computer but it doesn't even spin up. As a desparate last act I have decided to try to find an identical drive and swap the control boards. (It has been done but I have no idea if it will succeed). So, does anyone have any idea of where I can find the following HD? Quantum Fireball CX, 3.5 series 10.2AT P/N CX10A011 Rev 02-B (Found on sticker above cable socket) If anyone has this disk in any of their old boxes I would be more than happy to replace it with a 80G brand new disk of their choice. Thanks in advance, Dov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: protecting one's IP
On Thursday 13 November 2003 16:03, Ilan Finci wrote: Hi, The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to his application). Is there a way to protect such executable/library, so it will be hard to do reverse engineering and find out what the algorithms we use? Of course, we protect ourself with patents, but we would like something in the level of protecting the code itself. Of course it is all done on linux (PPC or x86 version). So Ilan of Mobileye (I assume), here's a little lesson to you, while we're already talking about hiding stuff: If you want to hide the identity of your employer, it's not enough to avoid mentioning it in the *body* of your email and use an anonymous mail box as a reply address. At the very least, you need to also make sure the MTA (that's mail server for you) you're using to send the email is not configured to send the name of said employer as part of the message header. Let that be a lesson to you - no matter how smart you think you are in hiding stuff, somewhere out there is someone who even smarter then you or at least bored enough to crack the secret wide open :-) Cheers, Gilad Gilad. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOBOFFER] A PHP/MySQL person needed
Hi , i was asked to forward this message to this list. - Reut computer and communication is expending (www.reut.co.il). Our company is looking for an experienced PHP programmer with strong knowladge about using MySQL with PHP. Advatages: * knowladge of Linux admministration (Qmail, Apache) * Network Security issues (using iptables). * ASP knowladge and MSSQL. Location : In Nesher's IA (Haifa area) Please send CV to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Hi Reut computer and communication is expending (www.reut.co.il). Our company is looking for an experienced PHP programmer with strong knowladge about using MySQL with PHP. Advatages: * knowladge of Linux admministration (Qmail, Apache) *Network Security issues (using iptables). * ASP knowladge and MSSQL Location : In Nesher's IA (Haifa area) Please send CV to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux and SMP
On Monday 10 November 2003 22:26, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: Evening, Recently i discovered that my machine (a dual p3 450MHz with 256mb of ram) is very slow. top says that somewhat like 30% of cpu cycles are being used by the system level. That's a lot. What kind of activity is it doing at the moment? i suspect that it might be the SMP support which is compiled into the kernel, mainly because when compiled with no SMP it runs just about fine, Uhm, when compiled with no smp, it runs with just one CPU. I'm using kernel version 2.4.22 (stable, as for today). If anyone here has any idea of anything i could try (hey, i'm not the first one to use SMP in linux! ) i'd love to hear about it. You could give 2.6 a shot and report how it feels for you if you're up to it. Alternatively, a description of what exactly you're doing that causes the SMP kernel to behave worse than the UP kernel (is that really what happens?) and the output of 'vmstat 1' would be useful. If no one has anything to say, i'll probably profile the kernel, and submit a bug report.. (in the latest changlogs i couldnt find anything related to that problem). That will even better. I recommend oprofile, http://oprofile.sf.net Cheers, Muli Hi again, i seemed to take the advice of install 2.6 which i thought was the most reasonable one, and it totally solved the problems - now my system is fast and neat! :) -- Dan Fruehauf. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for Quantum HD for desparate data recovery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it was bound to happen. My web-server computer at the Weizmann Institute short-circuited and once the smoke cleared out, there was the 10G harddisk with the only copy of lots of data that I am dying to restore... I tried to connect the HD to another computer but it doesn't even spin up. As a desparate last act I have decided to try to find an identical drive and swap the control boards. (It has been done but I have no idea if it will succeed). So, does anyone have any idea of where I can find the following HD? Quantum Fireball CX, 3.5 series 10.2AT P/N CX10A011 Rev 02-B (Found on sticker above cable socket) If anyone has this disk in any of their old boxes I would be more than happy to replace it with a 80G brand new disk of their choice. Thanks in advance, Dov I have: 10.2AT P/N LB10A011 Rev 01-A It's yours, if you want it. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
