beosmax

[Aaron]

Hi all,

On a whim I downloaded the latest BeosMax and installed it. I was
wondering if anyone has an idea how I would connect it to my isp/cable
for internet access?


Thanks
Aaron

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Re: Linux power tools book?

[Aaron]

My best alsa resource has been Planet CCRMA and The demudi project.

Aaron
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 19:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Looking for documents (and possibly books) to help me understand the terms
> of the ALSA world I stumbled across "Linux Power Tools" book
> (*http://tinyurl.com/6xrng) which intrigued me.
> 
> Does anyone know this book? How up to date is it in relation
> to Debian Testting+/Suse/FC/RH?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Amos
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Re: anything but chown...

[Amir Tal]

Haggai Eran wrote:
Since fat doesn't support ownership the only thing you can do is change the 
uid or gid in the mount command
from man mount:
Mount options for vfat
..
  uid=value and gid=value
 Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the uid
 and gid of the current process.)
  umask=value
 Set  the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that are
 not present). The default is the umask of  the  current
 process.  The value is given in octal.
  dmask=value
 Set the umask applied to directories only.  The default
 is the umask of the  current  process.   The  value  is
 given in octal. Present since 2.5.43.
  fmask=value
 Set  the  umask  applied  to  regular  files only.  The
 default is the umask of the current process.  The value
 is given in octal. Present since 2.5.43.


On Monday 16 August 2004 02:02, Amir Tal wrote:
 

debian sid, 2.6.7-1-k7 .
got an external 250gb hard drive with fat32 filesystem (created in Linux
with fdisk), connected via usb2.
the mount command is :
mount -t vfat -o rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx
root can cd into the directory, create files, delete files, modify what
he created., and chmod existing files.
on the other hand, he cannot chown existing files, but he can modify
them (edit and save).
the files were copied to the disk using my computer at work, running
windows 2000 server. files mode
is set to "-rwxr--r--" .
what am i missing here ??
   

 

solved :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/14/2002/08/2/27353
scroll almost to the end to see the solution. if you're to lazy :
/dev/xxx /mnt/xxx vfat defaults,umask=000 1 0
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Re: anything but chown...

[Haggai Eran]

Since fat doesn't support ownership the only thing you can do is change the 
uid or gid in the mount command
from man mount:
Mount options for vfat
..
   uid=value and gid=value
  Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the uid
  and gid of the current process.)
   umask=value
  Set  the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that are
  not present). The default is the umask of  the  current
  process.  The value is given in octal.
   dmask=value
  Set the umask applied to directories only.  The default
  is the umask of the  current  process.   The  value  is
  given in octal. Present since 2.5.43.
   fmask=value
  Set  the  umask  applied  to  regular  files only.  The
  default is the umask of the current process.  The value
  is given in octal. Present since 2.5.43.




On Monday 16 August 2004 02:02, Amir Tal wrote:
> debian sid, 2.6.7-1-k7 .
> got an external 250gb hard drive with fat32 filesystem (created in Linux
> with fdisk), connected via usb2.
> the mount command is :
> mount -t vfat -o rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx
>
> root can cd into the directory, create files, delete files, modify what
> he created., and chmod existing files.
> on the other hand, he cannot chown existing files, but he can modify
> them (edit and save).
> the files were copied to the disk using my computer at work, running
> windows 2000 server. files mode
> is set to "-rwxr--r--" .
>
> what am i missing here ??

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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[Haggai Eran]

On Monday 16 August 2004 02:13, ik wrote:
> But it's not a bug... it's just keyboard reading... xuv gives you diffrent
> values from CTRL+A vs CTRL+Shin and so is in ALT+A,ALT+Shin etc... it's
> just telling program to ignore hebrew keyboard... But you will encounter
> this problem on every program that does not deal with this situation. Thats
> why the first tweak you can do is to control xmodmap...

It is definitely a bug. Perhaps it shouldn't be fixed in mozilla, but instead 
it maybe need to be fixed in X, or in the distribution, but you cannot expect 
every user to tweak there own xmodmap.

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Re: anything but chown...

[Amir Tal]

ik wrote:
Amir Tal wrote:
debian sid, 2.6.7-1-k7 .
got an external 250gb hard drive with fat32 filesystem (created in 
Linux with fdisk), connected via usb2.
the mount command is :
mount -t vfat -o rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx

root can cd into the directory, create files, delete files, modify 
what he created., and chmod existing files.
on the other hand, he cannot chown existing files, but he can modify 
them (edit and save).
the files were copied to the disk using my computer at work, running 
windows 2000 server. files mode
is set to "-rwxr--r--" .

what am i missing here ??
FAT no matter what version does not support owners :) only attributes 
like R, W, Hidden and Directory :)


Ido
in that case, how do you give access to those files to a regular user ? 
adding the user
to the "root" group wont help...
regular users don't have access to that dir (itself, one level above the 
files..)
the interesting thing is, that if i create the mount point AS a user, 
the ownership will change
back to root after i mount.
i wonder what will happen if i'll give my user uid 0...
august penguins all over again ? :)

tal.
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Re: anything but chown...

[ik]

Amir Tal wrote:
debian sid, 2.6.7-1-k7 .
got an external 250gb hard drive with fat32 filesystem (created in Linux 
with fdisk), connected via usb2.
the mount command is :
mount -t vfat -o rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx

root can cd into the directory, create files, delete files, modify what 
he created., and chmod existing files.
on the other hand, he cannot chown existing files, but he can modify 
them (edit and save).
the files were copied to the disk using my computer at work, running 
windows 2000 server. files mode
is set to "-rwxr--r--" .

what am i missing here ??
FAT no matter what version does not support owners :) only attributes like R, W, 
Hidden and Directory :)

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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[ik]

Haggai Eran wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 22:59, ik wrote:

I'm also running debian sid, some of the programs have this problems while
others not. Konsole (i checked it out afther you wrote) is not having it,
while Mozilla (every product of them) does have it, and so are many other
programs.. not all of them are GTK btw...

About mozilla, there is a bug report on that problem. It was reported on 
linmagazine:
http://linmagazine.co.il/node/view/3331
and they called everyone to go to mozilla's bugzilla and vote on this bug.
But it's not a bug... it's just keyboard reading... xuv gives you diffrent values from CTRL+A vs 
CTRL+Shin and so is in ALT+A,ALT+Shin etc... it's just telling program to ignore hebrew keyboard...
But you will encounter this problem on every program that does not deal with this situation.
Thats why the first tweak you can do is to control xmodmap...
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anything but chown...

[Amir Tal]

debian sid, 2.6.7-1-k7 .
got an external 250gb hard drive with fat32 filesystem (created in Linux 
with fdisk), connected via usb2.
the mount command is :
mount -t vfat -o rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx

root can cd into the directory, create files, delete files, modify what 
he created., and chmod existing files.
on the other hand, he cannot chown existing files, but he can modify 
them (edit and save).
the files were copied to the disk using my computer at work, running 
windows 2000 server. files mode
is set to "-rwxr--r--" .

what am i missing here ??
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Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)

[Oded Arbel]

On Thursday 12 August 2004 22:09, Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote:
> The newer Athlons have the same feature as P4 - they shutdown.  This is a
> feature of the processor

Intels don't shutdown, they throttle down until they can handle the hit. a P3 
should throttle down to about 200MHz w/o a heatsink and a fan (depending on 
the outside temp), I'm not sure how low a P4 would go.

> I still say buy Intel processors and Intel.
>
> The costs differential in a 2x SMP machine is immaterial relative to the
> cost of your time in support
> and systems integration - Intel is heads above AMD in that department.
>
> For data intensive stick with Intel mobos and for graphics intensive go for
> Giga-byte motherboards.

Unless you want 64 bit computing, which can offer a lot of performance 
headroom with some applications and several important percentile with almost 
anything. in which case AMD64 is basicly the only contender as the IA64 
architecture is much harder to get at decent prices and gives you zero 
backward compatibility.

Also for low-cost high-end graphics and audio I suggest you go with nForce (2 
or 3) which is only available for AMD processors.

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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[Haggai Eran]

On Sunday 15 August 2004 22:59, ik wrote:

> I'm also running debian sid, some of the programs have this problems while
> others not. Konsole (i checked it out afther you wrote) is not having it,
> while Mozilla (every product of them) does have it, and so are many other
> programs.. not all of them are GTK btw...

About mozilla, there is a bug report on that problem. It was reported on 
linmagazine:
http://linmagazine.co.il/node/view/3331
and they called everyone to go to mozilla's bugzilla and vote on this bug.

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Re: Linux power tools book?

[Pinchas Rosenfeld]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking for documents (and possibly books) to help me understand the 
terms
of the ALSA world I stumbled across "Linux Power Tools" book
(*http://tinyurl.com/6xrng) which intrigued me.

Does anyone know this book? How up to date is it in relation
to Debian Testting+/Suse/FC/RH?
Thanks,
--Amos
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Hi Amos,
I bought this book on the last August Penguin Day and I'm reading it now.
It looks very promising and has a lot of tips on how to handle various 
Linux topics.
It has 2 pages covering ALSA drivers.
According to the book, ALSA is included with kernel 2.4.x on Debian, RH 
and SuSE distros.
The book was sold to me by COMBOOKS Ltd. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[Boaz Rymland]

Oh, setting up hebrew was, and still is, a pain. It seems like only 
Tzafrir Cohen really knows how to do things right ;-) ...

Anyhow, I've recently managed to set up hebrew keyboard on my KDE, while 
retaining the Alt, Meta, whatever...  .
I used this guide - 
http://www.penguin.org.il/faq/downloads/hebrew_x/6.html and I have this 
command in my .xinitrc - "/bin/cat ~/.xmodmap | /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap -"
Note that the configuration depends also on your specifc keyboard, 
AFAIK. A tool which can also come in handy (for the tuning of keycodes) 
is "xev". Attached is my .xmodmap.

Good luck,
Boaz.
rlinuz wrote:
Hi,
When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. 

Fedora Core 2, KDE
Any idea?
-S.
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keycode   8 =
keycode   9 = Escape
keycode  10 = 1 exclam 1 exclam
keycode  11 = 2 at 2 at
keycode  12 = 3 numbersign 3 numbersign
keycode  13 = 4 dollar 4 dollar
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keycode  57 = n N hebrew_mem N
keycode  58 = m M hebrew_zade M
keycode  59 = comma less hebrew_taw less
keycode  60 = period greater hebrew_finalzade greater
keycode  61 = slash question period question
keycode  62 = Shift_R ISO_Next_Group
keycode  63 = KP_Multiply
!keycode  64 = Meta_L Alt_L
keycode  64 = Alt_L
!keycode  64 = Meta_L 
keycode  65 = space
keycode  66 = Control_L
keycode  67 = F1
keycode  68 = F2
keycode  69 = F3
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keycode  71 = F5
keycode  72 = F6
keycode  73 = F7
keycode  74 = F8
keycode  75 = F9
keycode  76 = F10
keycode  77 = Num_Lock Pointer_EnableKeys
keycode  78 = Scroll_Lock
keycode  79 = KP_Home KP_7
keycode  80 = KP_Up KP_8
keycode  81 = KP_Prior KP_9
keycode  82 = KP_Subtract
keycode  83 = KP_Left KP_4
keycode  84 = KP_Begin KP_5
keycode  85 = KP_Right KP_6
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keycode  87 = KP_End KP_1
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keycode 109 = Control_R
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keycode 111 = Sys_Req
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keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key
keycode 114 = Pause Break
!keycode 115 = Meta_L
!keycode 115 = Alt_L
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Re: Rdesktop 1.3.1 hebrew support doesnt

[Noam Meltzer]

Hi Danny,
My experience is mostly with citrix, but i have a little experience with 
rdesktop too.
As far as I remember, such a problem can be caused because of the key 
mapping in your window manager. (like mapping alt+shift to the language 
changing in KDE).
I would suggest that you will try to do a login to X with a window 
manager not configured for hebrew (try twm, for example) and than try to 
use rdesktop.

Noam
Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote:
Heah shachar - no problem for me. I'm an english speaker.
I've got rdesktop 1.3.1 latest version compiled on RH9,
working with Windows Terminal Services/W2k SP4 - Office 2K
Inside rdesktop - you can see hebrew Office docs BUT:
1. right alt shift doesnt work
2. right ctl shift does transfer to Hebrew BUT it also freezes the menu bar
in an ALT state;
i.e as if the menu is permanetly pressed down.
Seems to me this is a keybd map issue,  probably a trivial one,  just cant
seem to figure out where.
I've already ruled out locale and fonts, and bidi -since one can
type hebrew from right to left after hitting rt ctrl shift.
FWIW - the MS office apps work ok on the native server and with rdp
thanks
Danny Lieberman
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+972-8-970-1485(voice)
+972-54-471114(Cell)
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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[ik]

Haggai Eran wrote:
I'm running KDE on debian sid, and i don't have this problem. 
I'm also running debian sid, some of the programs have this problems while others not.
Konsole (i checked it out afther you wrote) is not having it, while Mozilla (every product of them) 
does have it, and so are many other programs.. not all of them are GTK btw...

I just tried in Konsole, and I was able to break (^C) and to stop (^Z) a 
program while using the hebrew keyboard layout.
Tell me more, how do you switch languages? Do you use the kde program (kxkb or 
something) or did you set up hebrew in XF86Config-4?

On Sunday 15 August 2004 21:30, rlinuz wrote:
Hi,
When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function.
Fedora Core 2, KDE
Any idea?
-S.
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Re: Call for Volunteers: Project Ben-Yehuda

[Nadav Har'El]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2004, Yosef Leibovich wrote about "Re: Call for Volunteers: Project 
Ben-Yehuda":
> I'm working currently of a similar project it is still in a pre-alpha
> nonfunctional stage, however I intend to finish it within a year or so.
> The project aims to provide an open-source sollution similar to takdin
> (takdinet.co.il) it will feature a web-interface you can use. No Niqud
> support for now but it is in my TODO list. If anyone plans anything do 
> contact me
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You have sparked my interest. What is it that you hope to do? A search
engine for Hebrew? A system for understanding the most likely reading
for each Hebrew word to facilitate correct searches (high precision
while keeping high recall?)
And what does "takdin" do that you are trying to emulate?

Thanks,
Nadav.

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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[amos]

ik wrote:
Three ways that i can think of:
1. configure xmodmap file :)
Is there a ready-made file floating anywere?
2. Change the defenetion of kde to make the same operations (it won't 
work on non QT programs thou)
3. Change the headers of x-server and recompile it :)
4. (Just experimented this): the "Alt Gr" key (at least on my simple
"Microsoft" keyboard it's between the space bar and the "Windows" key
on the right) seems to switch keyboards when it's pressed, so an
"Alt Gr"+"CTRL-C" copied a selected text to the copy buffer and
"Alt Gr"+"CTRL-V" pasted it, all this while in a "Hebrew keyboard".
Not quite the same as simple "CTRL-C" in any keyboard but still...
there might be more ways, but i can't think on any other way ...
Ido

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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[Haggai Eran]

I'm running KDE on debian sid, and i don't have this problem. 
I just tried in Konsole, and I was able to break (^C) and to stop (^Z) a 
program while using the hebrew keyboard layout.
Tell me more, how do you switch languages? Do you use the kde program (kxkb or 
something) or did you set up hebrew in XF86Config-4?


On Sunday 15 August 2004 21:30, rlinuz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
> CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function.
>
> Fedora Core 2, KDE
>
> Any idea?
>
> -S.
>
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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[ik]

rlinuz wrote:
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 21:53, ik wrote:
rlinuz wrote:
Hi,
When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. 

Fedora Core 2, KDE
Any idea?
-S.

I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTRL+A will CTRL + shin CTRL+Z 
will be ctrl+zyn etc..
Cheers,
Ido

Well :-) How do I 'fix' it? i.e. like Windows?
-S.

Three ways that i can think of:
1. configure xmodmap file :)
2. Change the defenetion of kde to make the same operations (it won't work on non QT 
programs thou)
3. Change the headers of x-server and recompile it :)
there might be more ways, but i can't think on any other way ...
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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[rlinuz]

On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 21:53, ik wrote:
> rlinuz wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
> > CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. 
> > 
> > Fedora Core 2, KDE
> > 
> > Any idea?
> > 
> > -S.
> > 
> > 
> I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTRL+A will CTRL + shin CTRL+Z will 
> be ctrl+zyn etc..
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ido

Well :-) How do I 'fix' it? i.e. like Windows?

-S.


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Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[ik]

rlinuz wrote:
Hi,
When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. 

Fedora Core 2, KDE
Any idea?
-S.

I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTRL+A will CTRL + shin CTRL+Z will 
be ctrl+zyn etc..
Cheers,
Ido
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CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

[rlinuz]

Hi,

When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e.
CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. 

Fedora Core 2, KDE

Any idea?

-S.


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Re: Call for Volunteers: Project Ben-Yehuda

[Yosef Leibovich]

I'm working currently of a similar project it is still in a pre-alpha
nonfunctional stage, however I intend to finish it within a year or so.
The project aims to provide an open-source sollution similar to takdin
(takdinet.co.il) it will feature a web-interface you can use. No Niqud
support for now but it is in my TODO list. If anyone plans anything do 
contact me
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Gaal Yahas wrote:
> Please distribute.
>
>
> Project Ben-Yehuda - Call for Volunteers
> 
>
> Project Ben-Yehuda  is seeking volunteers to help
> build the Internet's Hebrew literature library. Project Ben-Yehuda,
> inspired by the (originally English) Project Gutenberg, aims to make
> available online classic texts -- poetry, stories, novels, and essays --
> free of charge and for all who are interested.
>
> We are currently looking for computing help. We have several creative
> projects to work on; some are quite innovative (see below). If you are
> familiar with one or more of these technologies:
>
>  * Web UI design and programming
>  * Perl
>  * Databases
>  * Natural language processing (NLP)
>  * Search engines
>
> And are looking to participate in an Internet project with significant
> social impact, please read on.
>
>
> Our site today offers the works of such authors as Rachel, Eliezer
> Ben-Yehuda, and many others; we will make Bialik's work available soon,
> as copyright law permits. Texts are typed, proofread, edited and put
> online by human volunteers, and we are looking to streamline this 
process,
> as well as provide users with better tools for browsing, searching and
> displaying the texts.
>
> Some of the challenges facing us require state-of-the art solutions
> that can be yours to invent, develop, and deploy: Hebrew presents
> unique issues. For example, we envision a Hebrew search engine that is
> Nikkud-aware and does the Right Thing when the search string is (or 
isn't)
> given with Nikkud, when the target text has (or hasn't) Nikkud marks in
> it. There are other interesting problems to work on in data rendering
> and presentation; performance; cross-browser user interface; and more.
>
> We have already been approached by a sister project aiming to computerize
> Yiddish texts, and since several technological problems are similar,
> our plan is to develop a generic publishing solution that can work for
> either language.
>
> The Ben-Yehuda project consists only of volunteers. Over fifty people
> have contributed by typing in texts. Some have donated books. The
> Shenkar College of Engineering and Design has graciously donated hosting
> services. We have a small software team with clear preference for high
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Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE+ BDAY PARTY]Muli Ben-Yehuda and Orna Agmon on Latest Kernel Developments

[Ira Abramov]

Quoting Orna Agmon, from the post of Sat, 14 Aug:
> Next Monday (16/8/2004), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will once
> again meet 

Anyone from the center area (03 or 09) going? I'd love to come along
with or offer a ride (my boss pays for my gas :-) to someone that can
help me find my way in the Technion.

Please answer off list, thanks!

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Linux power tools book?

[amos]

Looking for documents (and possibly books) to help me understand the terms
of the ALSA world I stumbled across "Linux Power Tools" book
(*http://tinyurl.com/6xrng) which intrigued me.
Does anyone know this book? How up to date is it in relation
to Debian Testting+/Suse/FC/RH?
Thanks,
--Amos
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RE: Interesting AMD security vulnerability

[Rony Shapiro]

The only thing "special" here is that this appeared on Bruce Schneier's
Cryptogram newsletter that was published today. A well-written, often
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> To: Danny Lieberman (Barak)
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> Subject: Re: Interesting AMD security vulnerability
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 05:05:47PM +0200, Danny Lieberman 
> (Barak) wrote:
> 
> > Here's an interesting hardware security vulnerability.  
> Turns out that
> > it's possible to update the AMD K8 processor (Athlon64 or Opteron) 
> > microcode.  And, get this, there's no authentication check.  
> 
> I don't see what's special about AMD here? you can do ucode 
> updates on Intel CPUs as well. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Muli
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> 
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Re: Interesting AMD security vulnerability

[Muli Ben-Yehuda]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 05:05:47PM +0200, Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote:

> Here's an interesting hardware security vulnerability.  Turns out that 
> it's possible to update the AMD K8 processor (Athlon64 or Opteron) 
> microcode.  And, get this, there's no authentication check.  

I don't see what's special about AMD here? you can do ucode updates on
Intel CPUs as well. 

Cheers, 
Muli
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Re: Kernel handeling of memory leaks

[Muli Ben-Yehuda]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 05:25:37PM +0300, ik wrote:

> Does the kernel do something with the memory afther X amount of time, or 
> does it continue to stay until the reboot has done ?

As soon as your memory exits, all of the physical memory it was using
is released back to the system. Some of it might be retained in
caches, but those will be shrunk as soon as the memory is needed
elsewhere. 

> I'll appriciate any information about it, including pointed out to RTFM on 
> the subject.

http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html 

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Kernel handeling of memory leaks

[ik]

Hello list,
I'm wondering, when I have a memory leak in my program, and the program exists etc..
Does the kernel do something with the memory afther X amount of time, or does it continue to stay 
until the reboot has done ?

I'm asking this because i noticed that altho i made a big memory leak once (actully the program 
crush in runtime that was the cuse... some library problem) but afther half a day i noticed that the 
 memory in "free" command show that he used memory was droped altho i didn't made any execution of 
new things (unless 'free' is counted for..)

I'll appriciate any information about it, including pointed out to RTFM on the subject.
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Interesting AMD security vulnerability

[Danny Lieberman \(Barak\)]

Not to continue the AMD vs Intel flame wars 
but:
 
Here's an interesting hardware security vulnerability.  Turns out that 
it's possible to update the AMD K8 processor (Athlon64 or Opteron) 
microcode.  And, get this, there's no authentication check.  So 
it's possible that an attacker who has access to a machine can backdoor the 
CPU. 
7&Thread=1&entryID=35446&roomID=11> or 

Re: l2tpd anyone

[Shaul Karl]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:12:27AM +0300, Aaron wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I noticed there is a l2tpd debian package so installed it.
> Has anyone used it successfully for connecting to actcom cable or any
> other isp in israel?
> 
> If so could you share what you did.
> 


  I don't use cables.
I believe someone posted here a link to a nice pdf about cables and
Linux when the subject arose last time. You'll have to search the
archive.
  I hope this help.
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Re: ALSA + intel8x0 + 2.6.7 = very low volume

[amos]

Just a quick update -
I gave up on my intel8x0 chip (I read that even when it works it's not a 
big glick)
bought an SBLive! and after a few days of tweaking/googling and great 
help from the
alsa-user mailing list I got it working both with playback and recording.

In order to make Skype (and apparently also Kaffeine) find it I had to 
disable the
on-board intel8x0 chip via the bios - both those applications insist on 
using "card 0"
which always was the on-board chip no mater what I did (I think even 
when the
intel8x0 module was missing the single SBLive card appeared as "card 1").

Thanks for everyone's help.
--Amos
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Haggai Eran wrote:
You say you run kde. Do you have artsd running? Perhaps you need to 
change arts' volume too. You should use 'kmix' for that.
I also have intel8x0 based sound card on-board, and I noticed that 
both in arts and in esd volume, the master volume doesn't change 
anything and only PCM and PCM2 channels change it.

I don't see my reply to you but I checked this too. Both disabled
KDE sound system and made sure artsd is down.
Kmix seems to reflect the same settings controlled by alsamixer(/gui) -
everything possible is unmuted and on the max.
Thanks,
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Re: OT: MySQL question

[ik]

Eli Kara wrote:
firebird is developed under Unix, and have Unix,Linux,Windows,SunOS
(Solrais -> also a unix) ports that work the same way on all of them.

When I was commenting on the lack of Win32 support I was referring to 
PostgreSQL which is in beta for Win32 (running it under CYGWIN is not
nearly close to being as easy as a MySQL Win32 installation which setups
the libraries automatically).


Luckily it handles UNICODE and other encodings really well out of the
box, as opposed to MySQL :-)
firebird support many charset including unicode... And you can define each
(var)char field to have it's own charset...

Yes, I know :)

Now i like firebird because it's been a very long time out-there, you have
java, delphi,freepascal,c, c++, php, perl support for it, and it's was made
by people who worked with interbase and like it, and convinced Borland to
open interbase to community (version 6.1 of interbase was open, and
firebird is based on it). The database iteself is very fast and light (if
you want more functions inside an sql, you need to use an extention). The
licence give you ability to work in commercial enviorment (unlike MySQL),
and you can tweak it (if you understand what you are doing offcurse) per
record, table and database, witch make it very flexible, and strong soted.
It compete on the market of large amount of data (billions of records), you
can divide the database itself acording to the database size/amount of
records.. witch make it easier to backup your data... You can update the
database to new version with two console command only...
And thats for start :)
I never worked with PostgreSQL, althou i know it's very good... But i'm
also known to be un othordox with my proffesional choises... i usualy peak
the one that is good for my work rather then popular... usualy it prove
itself with the result and time spent on a project...
Ido

Firebird seems very nice. I have installed it but it still required me to pick
my brain about certain operations. The reason I was mentioning Win32 support 
at all was because I was recently looking for an SQL database that has native 
Win32 support and can store unicode characters (for hebrew support).

PostgreSQL would have been my choice were it not for the annoying installation 
along with CYGWIN. MySQL is more problematic as it has a *slight* license 
problem, so I limited myself to version 3.23.58 (which requires an explicit 
command line argument to start the server in a different encoding).

Firebird was nice but I was too annoyed by it's interface, sorry :)
In the end I think I'll either go with MySQL or FB, I haven't decided yet. It 
will also depend on the APIs available and how easy they are to use.

Ok, enough ranting..
Eli
If you need any help with FB you can email me (well everyone on this list :) ), i had some work to 
make it more hebrew sutable (like demaon that speaks hebrew ;)) but they added also a russion fork 
of the project and chainged everything (the version of 1.5x is uses also the russion fork), so for 
now the work i did was for nothing.. :(
Anyway.. again if you need help you can contact me about it :)

Cheers
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Re: OT: MySQL question

[Eli Kara]

>
> firebird is developed under Unix, and have Unix,Linux,Windows,SunOS
> (Solrais -> also a unix) ports that work the same way on all of them.
>

When I was commenting on the lack of Win32 support I was referring to 
PostgreSQL which is in beta for Win32 (running it under CYGWIN is not
nearly close to being as easy as a MySQL Win32 installation which setups
the libraries automatically).

> > Luckily it handles UNICODE and other encodings really well out of the
> > box, as opposed to MySQL :-)
>
> firebird support many charset including unicode... And you can define each
> (var)char field to have it's own charset...

Yes, I know :)

>
> Now i like firebird because it's been a very long time out-there, you have
> java, delphi,freepascal,c, c++, php, perl support for it, and it's was made
> by people who worked with interbase and like it, and convinced Borland to
> open interbase to community (version 6.1 of interbase was open, and
> firebird is based on it). The database iteself is very fast and light (if
> you want more functions inside an sql, you need to use an extention). The
> licence give you ability to work in commercial enviorment (unlike MySQL),
> and you can tweak it (if you understand what you are doing offcurse) per
> record, table and database, witch make it very flexible, and strong soted.
> It compete on the market of large amount of data (billions of records), you
> can divide the database itself acording to the database size/amount of
> records.. witch make it easier to backup your data... You can update the
> database to new version with two console command only...
>
> And thats for start :)
> I never worked with PostgreSQL, althou i know it's very good... But i'm
> also known to be un othordox with my proffesional choises... i usualy peak
> the one that is good for my work rather then popular... usualy it prove
> itself with the result and time spent on a project...
>
> Ido

Firebird seems very nice. I have installed it but it still required me to pick
my brain about certain operations. The reason I was mentioning Win32 support 
at all was because I was recently looking for an SQL database that has native 
Win32 support and can store unicode characters (for hebrew support).

PostgreSQL would have been my choice were it not for the annoying installation 
along with CYGWIN. MySQL is more problematic as it has a *slight* license 
problem, so I limited myself to version 3.23.58 (which requires an explicit 
command line argument to start the server in a different encoding).

Firebird was nice but I was too annoyed by it's interface, sorry :)

In the end I think I'll either go with MySQL or FB, I haven't decided yet. It 
will also depend on the APIs available and how easy they are to use.

Ok, enough ranting..

Eli

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viewer to ZPixmap files

[rami rosen]

Hello,
 Does anybody know about  a viewer linux  (like gimp) in which can show
ZPixmap files ?
(more specifically : show raw data of an Ximage , where this Ximage was
created using XCreateImage with ZPixmap as a parameter and we save the
raw data (the char* data member of the ximage) to a file  ?
regards,
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Re: OT: MySQL question

[ik]

Voguemaster wrote:

PostgresQL seems to have something like this, see:
http://www.sql.org/sql-database/postgresql/manual/arrays.html
(for those who need yet another reason to switch :-) )
Interbase/Firebird (firebird is open source based on interbase) also have arrays.
It's very fast ad very light, if you need extra things you can search an already made extentions or 
create your own...
Yes, PostgreSQL is a fine DB and there is every good reason to switch :-)
It only suffers from two main problems that I can see:
1. It's annoying to create a table with an auto-incremented field (i.e: 
serial int)
For some reason you have to issue 4 commands... go figure their design 
decision.

In Interbase you can impliment it as a trigger... you do not need to start massing 
things very much...
Also stored procedure increase your speed of making things and give you the result as 
it where a table.
2. It still lacks a native Win32 port (for those who need it). This is a 
big one
as it is currently only available for Unix/Linux.
firebird is developed under Unix, and have Unix,Linux,Windows,SunOS (Solrais -> also a unix) ports 
that work the same way on all of them.

Luckily it handles UNICODE and other encodings really well out of the box,
as opposed to MySQL :-)
firebird support many charset including unicode... And you can define each (var)char field to have 
it's own charset...
Eli

Now i like firebird because it's been a very long time out-there, you have java, 
delphi,freepascal,c, c++, php, perl support for it, and it's was made by people who worked with 
interbase and like it, and convinced Borland to open interbase to community (version 6.1 of 
interbase was open, and firebird is based on it). The database iteself is very fast and light (if 
you want more functions inside an sql, you need to use an extention). The licence give you ability 
to work in commercial enviorment (unlike MySQL), and you can tweak it (if you understand what you 
are doing offcurse) per record, table and database, witch make it very flexible, and strong soted.
It compete on the market of large amount of data (billions of records), you can divide the database 
itself acording to the database size/amount of records.. witch make it easier to backup your data...
You can update the database to new version with two console command only...

And thats for start :)
I never worked with PostgreSQL, althou i know it's very good... But i'm also known to be un othordox 
with my proffesional choises... i usualy peak the one that is good for my work rather then 
popular... usualy it prove itself with the result and time spent on a project...

Ido
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Fwd: [Gimp-developer] MA project: FS/OS Developer as a social Formation

[Shlomi Fish]

This is a very nice survey about the social aspects of Open-Source. If you are 
an open-source developer or activists, please take the time to fill it.

Best regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Subject: [Gimp-developer] MA project: FS/OS Developer as a social Formation
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 03:00
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

just got a nice email asking me to point the GIMP developers to this
online questionnaire:

  http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~egal/

It's a study on the social cohesion between developers and aims to
"grasp them as a social whole". I think we should all participate so
we can learn a bit about ourselves...


Sven
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Re: OT: MySQL question

[Shachar Shemesh]

Eli Kara wrote:
create table foo ( serial bar primary key, ...
   

That does NOT work on my PostgreSQL 7.4.3. What DOES work is:
(assuming you have table foo)
ALTER TABLE foo ADD COLUMN id int;// create an 'id' field, integer
CREATE SEQUENCE foo_id_seq;   // create an auto-incrementing seq.
ALTER TABLE foo ALTER COLUMN id SET DEFAULT nextval('foo_id_seq');
// set the default value of 'id' to be the next value in the sequence
UPDATE foo SET id = nextval('foo_id_seq');  // update existing 'id' column
Am I missing some simpler way ? I remember googling about this for quite some 
time and that is the solution I found.

Regards,
Eli
 

sun=# create table foo ( bar serial primary key );
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence "foo_bar_seq" for 
"serial" column "foo.bar"
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index 
"foo_pkey" for table "foo"
CREATE TABLE

Now, if you want to add a serial retroactively, then you will have to do 
what you mention. This has to do with the fact that you cannot add a 
column and set a default value to it in one go, and the "Serial" type is 
really just syntactic sugar to what you want to do.

Then again, this is just syntactic sugar to a rather uncommon operation. 
Is that really such a problem?

Shachar
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l2tpd anyone

[Aaron]

Hi all,

I noticed there is a l2tpd debian package so installed it.
Has anyone used it successfully for connecting to actcom cable or any
other isp in israel?

If so could you share what you did.

Thanks
Aaron

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Re: OT: MySQL question

[Eli Kara]

> create table foo ( serial bar primary key, ...
>

That does NOT work on my PostgreSQL 7.4.3. What DOES work is:
(assuming you have table foo)

ALTER TABLE foo ADD COLUMN id int;// create an 'id' field, integer
CREATE SEQUENCE foo_id_seq;   // create an auto-incrementing seq.
ALTER TABLE foo ALTER COLUMN id SET DEFAULT nextval('foo_id_seq');
// set the default value of 'id' to be the next value in the sequence
UPDATE foo SET id = nextval('foo_id_seq');  // update existing 'id' column

Am I missing some simpler way ? I remember googling about this for quite some 
time and that is the solution I found.

Regards,
Eli

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Re: Rdesktop 1.3.1 hebrew support?!

[Danny Lieberman \(Barak\)]

doh.
 
the answer was embarassingly simple
 
1. make sure you're using the latest version 1.3.1 
- you need the rdp5 support
2. you want your XF86Config file to 
specify:
 
Option XkbModel "pc102"
Option XkbLayout "he"
Option XkbVariant "nodeadkeys"
 
3. Make sure that hebrew input methods and Office 
Hebrew support (in the Microsoft Office Language settings)
are set on Windows 200x terminal 
server
New installations of IE may reset your hebrew 
definitions.
 
 
 
danny
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rami Addady 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 3:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Rdesktop 1.3.1 hebrew 
  support?
  
  Hello Danny,
   
  I'm using rdesktop v1.3 for some time and have 
  the same problem with the ALT key.
  Actually the ALT key behave like the Caps Lock 
  key, that mean the 1st press tern in on and the 2nd press tern it 
  off.
  I got use to it.
  Please inform me if you find any 
  solution
   
  Regards,
   
  Rami 
  Addadyhttp:/www.active.co.il/