RE: a server for fun and profit
and i'm wondering why u even posted something to the list if u then refuse to answer relevant questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Wed, July 06, 2005 6:08 PM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: a server for fun and profit Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2005, Gadi Evron wrote about Re: a server for fun and profit: .. * Why FreeBSD? Which version of FreeBSD? .. By publishing this info, you'll cut yourself many of those emails who will ask you the same questions over and over again.. I'll take my chances, thanks though. Perhaps you didn't notice, but this is a *Linux* mailing list, so don't be surprise if people wonder why you chose FreeBSD... :-) No, but I am starting to wonder why you keep insisting on answering everything, and always on-list. Gadi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. *** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a server for fun and profit
El-al, Netta wrote: and i'm wondering why u even posted something to the list if u then refuse to answer relevant questions... Hi. Because it is a bit off-topic, and I specifically requested replies to be made off-list. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a server for fun and profit
And I don't understand your urge to comment on everything. If you are not interested just delete the email, and carry on. Some people on this list seem to have too much free time. Have a great day, -- Imri Zvik PGP (2.6.3ia) Public Key: http://mariska.inter.net.il/~imriz/imriz.pgp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of El-al, Netta Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:02 PM To: Gadi Evron Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: RE: a server for fun and profit and i'm wondering why u even posted something to the list if u then refuse to answer relevant questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Wed, July 06, 2005 6:08 PM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: a server for fun and profit Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Jul 06, 2005, Gadi Evron wrote about Re: a server for fun and profit: .. * Why FreeBSD? Which version of FreeBSD? .. By publishing this info, you'll cut yourself many of those emails who will ask you the same questions over and over again.. I'll take my chances, thanks though. Perhaps you didn't notice, but this is a *Linux* mailing list, so don't be surprise if people wonder why you chose FreeBSD... :-) No, but I am starting to wonder why you keep insisting on answering everything, and always on-list. Gadi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. *** == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a server for fun and profit
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Imri Zvik wrote: To: El-al, Netta [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I don't understand your urge to comment on everything. come on, you know why - we fear there's a missionary amongst us, linux zealots, that's trying to convert us to his bsdish religion ;) we're just trying to protect our kids from being brain-washed by the others :P~~ -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Job Offer
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Re: threads in 2.6
Replying to myself ... On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 01:16:46PM +0300, didi wrote: Hi all, If a process creates threads, then the main thread dies, I can't see the other threads anymore with ps. I also do not see them with 'ls -l /proc'. If I do know the pid (tid actually), and do ls -l /proc/tid, I do see it. Is this intended, or a bug? In 2.4 I always see all of the threads. Tried on 2.6.12.2. I spent some more time on this and have some updates: It's a known bug. E.g. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0410.0/1589.html I tried to debug it. I have quite little experience with kernel programming, so after making a small change that did not work, I decided to try user-mode-linux for this. Under UML, a small test program I wrote crashes with SIGSEGV some time after calling clone. I am pretty sure it dies on the first context switch between the two threads, or something like that - not on a syscall (and I do not think that on a memory access of mine - to test I wrote trivial busy loops). The test program does work on real 2.6, with the behaviour described above. I thought this might be a bug in libpthreads, so tried to write it with direct calling of clone, and did not manage to make it work, I don't know why. Various versions of the test program can be found in http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi/threads. The solution I hope to find/write will cause a zombie process keep a working /proc/tgid/task subdir with subdirs of its threads, living ones still accessible as normal. I am pretty sure (without checking) that ps will magically start showing them without changes. I guess the bug can be solved somewhere around fs/proc/base.c - maybe in proc_task_lookup. I will try to make some changes, but this obviously takes much more time than with uml. If I see that it is too slow I might try XEN. I gave it a quick look and see there are problems with tls libs under xen, so it might not help me debug this. I hope I do not bother most people too much - I know it's offtopic, I know there are people here that might be interested in solving this, or at least that it's solved. -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: threads in 2.6
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 17:32 +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: [... war story about debugging kernel's innards was snipped ...] I hope I do not bother most people too much - I know it's offtopic, I know there are people here that might be interested in solving this, or at least that it's solved. I believe that this subject is on-topic, and it was interesting for someone, who does not have the time or patience to follow LKML, to have a glimpse into debugging kernel level stuff. --- Omer -- Jara Cimrman! He is one of the unsung geniuses--scientist, engineer, inventor and literary critic. My own blog is at http://www.livejournal.com/users/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: job offer:
O.K wrote: And what is a DAE ? Cause the job sounds like a sysadmin... DAE stands for 'Design Automation Engineer' as we do not really need a full time DAE nor a full time Sysadmin and as the jobs have a lot in common we decided to try to get a person who will do both. the idea in DAE is setting development enviroments automatic testing systems, using scripts, makefiles, etc. cheers, erez. - Original Message - From: Erez Doron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ilug linux-il@linux.org.il Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: job offer: hi we are looking for a full time DAE Requierments: Linux and windows system adminstration, Creating/Supporting develpment enviroment iptables, scripting, cygwin, cvs, makefiles etc ... please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: www.camero-tech.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: third generation modem
Hi Gadi, Mind giving some details about this modem? model name, number, if you know which chipset etc.. the more, the better. Thanks, Hetz On 7/6/05, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Does anyone have any experience with installing an Orange third generation modem on linux? Thanks, Gadi. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my new Palm Zire 72
I forgot to mention, in my previous message, that I did check the Palm on my kids' Win98 computer and was able to hotsync - so this is not a problem with the Palm. Also, since my LINUX box has no problem communicating with several other USB devices (scanner, printer, camera, mouse, disk-on-key), I don't see this as being a hardware problem. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.7.1 (KDE 3.2.3) on LINUX Mandrake 10.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend
strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - so here's the 1st one again. On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in a day or two and I'll let you know what happens - thanks. On thinking it over again, and after a few more of my own experiments, I can't see how my problem will be solved by re-booting. After all, that's not really the LINUX way, is it :-) I don't know what has changed, but with all the things I've tried, I'm now getting a /dev/pilot device when I plug in the Palm. But niether it or the /dev/ttyUSB* devices seem to be communicating with the Palm. Here's a bit of output. Notice that at first there's no /dev/pilot and I have USB 0, 1, 4 and 5. Don't ask where 2 and 3 disappered to - I have no answer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot ls: /dev/pilot: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 Now I plug in the Palm and look what **magically** happens. I get the /dev/pilot and USB 2 and 3 devices. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/pilot - /dev/ttyUSB3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB2 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB3 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 But when I try pilot-xfer on the 2 new devices (/dev/pilot is really just a link to /dev/ttyUSB3), nothing happens until I do Ctrl-Z. BTW, it doesn't look like a permission problem because solomon is the owner and has read and write permission on the relevant devices. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/pilot -l Listening to port: /dev/pilot Please press the HotSync button now... [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyUSB4 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB4 Please press the HotSync button now... Then I look at the devices again: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul 7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB2 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul 7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB3 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 And again after Hotsync times out - 2 and 3 are gone again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 Here's what syslog looks like (I've edited out irrelevant stuff - mostly TCP Rejects from the Firewall): Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 31 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB6: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB6 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB7: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB7 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 32 Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB2 Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB3 snip Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 32 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.7.1 (KDE 3.2.3) on LINUX Mandrake 10.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my new Palm Zire 72
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in a day or two and I'll let you know what happens - thanks. On thinking it over again, and after a few more of my own experiments, I can't see how my problem will be solved by re-booting. After all, that's not really the LINUX way, is it :-) I don't know what has changed, but with all the things I've tried, I'm now getting a /dev/pilot device when I plug in the Palm. But niether it or the /dev/ttyUSB* devices seem to be communicating with the Palm. Here's a bit of output. Notice that at first there's no /dev/pilot and I have USB 0, 1, 4 and 5. Don't ask where 2 and 3 disappered to - I have no answer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot ls: /dev/pilot: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 Now I plug in the Palm and look what **magically** happens. I get the /dev/pilot and USB 2 and 3 devices. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/pilot - /dev/ttyUSB3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB2 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul 7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB3 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 But when I try pilot-xfer on the 2 new devices (/dev/pilot is really just a link to /dev/ttyUSB3), nothing happens until I do Ctrl-Z. BTW, it doesn't look like a permission problem because solomon is the owner and has read and write permission on the relevant devices. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/pilot -l Listening to port: /dev/pilot Please press the HotSync button now... [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyUSB4 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB4 Please press the HotSync button now... Then I look at the devices again: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul 7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB2 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul 7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB3 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 And again after Hotsync times out - 2 and 3 are gone again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU* crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul 6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul 6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5 Here's what syslog looks like (I've edited out irrelevant stuff - mostly TCP Rejects from the Firewall): Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 31 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB6: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB6 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB7: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB7 Jul 7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 32 Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB2 Jul 7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB3 snip Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 32 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3 Jul 7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.7.1 (KDE 3.2.3) on LINUX Mandrake 10.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 12:02:12AM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - so here's the 1st one again. On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in a day or two and I'll let you know what happens - thanks. On thinking it over again, and after a few more of my own experiments, I can't see how my problem will be solved by re-booting. After all, that's not really the LINUX way, is it :-) Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if needed), then repeat the tests? -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend
On Friday 08 July 2005 00:38, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if needed), then repeat the tests? Sorry, I forgot to write that I tried that and was not able to remove the modules. I didn't try --force because the man page says this is dangerous. [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# rmmod visor ERROR: Module visor is in use [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# rmmod usbserial ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by visor [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# lsmod |grep visor visor 16144 4 usbserial 25384 10 visor usbcore 103172 10 usb-storage,visor,usbserial,quickcam,usbmouse,usbhid,usblp,ohci-hcd -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.7.1 (KDE 3.2.3) on LINUX Mandrake 10.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]