Hebrew stemming
Hi all, Does anybody know of a stemming library for Hebrew? Google can find several discussions on it, but I could not figure out if something came out of it yet or not. What other things one should consider when looking at a Hebrew search module? It seems that Google does very basic stemming + partial words match. Is there some form of public work on the subject? Thanks, -- Yuval Hager signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew stemming
Start with hspell.
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Does anybody know of a stemming library for Hebrew? Google can find several
discussions on it, but I could not figure out if something came out of it y
et
or not.
What other things one should consider when looking at a Hebrew search modul
e?
It seems that Google does very basic stemming + partial words match. Is the
re
some form of public work on the subject?
Thanks,
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Re: Hebrew stemming
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Start with hspell. - yba Thanks, I didn't know it does that. I can't seem to find the sources though. All links point to ivrix.org.il, which seems to be down. --yuval signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew stemming
Try contacting Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il.
- yba
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:53:03 +0200
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To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Subject: Re: Hebrew stemming
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Start with hspell.
- yba
Thanks, I didn't know it does that.
I can't seem to find the sources though. All links point to ivrix.org.il,
which seems to be down.
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data security
hi one day this week, i started my computer, it behaved very strange - i had a blank screen for about 2 minutes before i got the boot screen, then it continued to boot from ... network the reason was that the hard drive has died. it wasn't even recognized by the bios. the computer was 2 months old, so i replaced the hard drive. when a hard drive dies and it is under warrenty, we need give the old one when we want it replaced. usuallyon the hard drive we have some personal things - pictures, documents, or confidential data if it belonged to a company etc... assuming the data is backed up (backing-up is an issue for another thread), we are left with the possibility of someone retriving data from the damaged drive. and when the drive is damaged, we can't even access it to erase that info before replacing it with a new one. so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. but there are many problems with it. the practical problems are at least: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) that fully support crypto-fs out of the box, so if i use it, i will need to do manual changes every time i upgrade the system. 2. it is not really secured if the key is stored on disk. however if the key is not stored on disk, then the computer can not acces the data without human intervention, which is not good either when it comes to servers. and guys/girls, take my advice and back-up your data every short while. everybody thinks it will not happen to him. but it does. it is just a matter of time. erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew stemming
it would be helpful if you will continue your discussion here, thx alot!
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote:
Try contacting Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il.
- yba
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:53:03 +0200
From: Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Subject: Re: Hebrew stemming
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Start with hspell.
- yba
Thanks, I didn't know it does that.
I can't seem to find the sources though. All links point to ivrix.org.il,
which seems to be down.
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Re: data security
2009/2/4 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz Erez D wrote: so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. but there are many problems with it. the practical problems are at least: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) that fully support crypto-fs out of the box, so if i use it, i will need to do manual changes every time i upgrade the system. Debian does. The installer even offers to install it for you. And so does Ubuntu. 2. it is not really secured if the key is stored on disk. however if the key is not stored on disk, then the computer can not acces the data without human intervention, which is not good either when it comes to servers. What I do is to not encrypt everything (which is a good idea anyways). The root file system and all of the service directories are not encrypted, and only the data is. I also tweak the Debian startup sequence to not ask me for the encryption password during boot. This way, the system boots without a password (but does not contain any data), and I use a small script to perform the actual crypted file system mount later (by which time I can log into the machine from ssh). I didn't bother to use it yet (not quite relevant for my desktops) but I think current Ubuntu (8.10) also offers to encrypt only your home directory - so part of your login procedure is to provide the key to mount just the home directory of the particular user. That way you get the PC up, you don't get a performance hit from encryption of data you actually don't need to hide, your data is safe until you login (and then I think it's still accessible only to you), multiple users can share the computer, each with their own key. All this is implied from installing Ubuntu from scratch on my work desktop last week (finally switched from Debian). No actual experience (yet). Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
What about /etc/shadow and other sensitive files? so no encrypting your root filesystem is also an issue. What if you put the hard drive under a very strong magnetic field? - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz To: Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il,Erez D erez0...@gmail.com Date: 04-02-2009 13:02 Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, most of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is horrendously slow. Still, I do it if the data is sensitive (e.g. - all data and sources belonging to clients automatically goes there). I also keep certain important stuff there (my email client folder, my documents folder, browser history etc.) This is fairly easily achieved with symbolic links. Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. This configuration is more dangerous, no doubt, as it is entirely possible that I have missed something (do share if you think of anything). It works pretty well for me, however. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew stemming
I wrote a crude stemming library using hspell's dictionary a few years back.
I didn't put it to use eventually, but i still have the code, i can look it
up if anyone wants.
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it would be helpful if you will continue your discussion here, thx alot!
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
wrote:
Try contacting Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il.
- yba
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Yuval Hager wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:53:03 +0200
From: Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Subject: Re: Hebrew stemming
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Start with hspell.
- yba
Thanks, I didn't know it does that.
I can't seem to find the sources though. All links point to
ivrix.org.il,
which seems to be down.
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Re: data security
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com wrote: What about /etc/shadow and other sensitive files? so no encrypting your root filesystem is also an issue. What if you put the hard drive under a very strong magnetic field? and what if your laptop is stolen ... - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz To: Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il,Erez D erez0...@gmail.com Date: 04-02-2009 13:02 Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, most of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is horrendously slow. Still, I do it if the data is sensitive (e.g. - all data and sources belonging to clients automatically goes there). I also keep certain important stuff there (my email client folder, my documents folder, browser history etc.) This is fairly easily achieved with symbolic links. Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. This configuration is more dangerous, no doubt, as it is entirely possible that I have missed something (do share if you think of anything). It works pretty well for me, however. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
Orr Dunkelman wrote: The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. It is encrypted, but swap is hardly used on my machine. And I didn't say my machine was slow. I said that having my entire home dir encrypted made compilations slow. Besides that, knowing about speeds of encryption and hard drives, it seems that if you use good ciphers, there should be no real performance lose (I know that there is such, but I never figured out why). Maybe because both compilation and encryption are CPU bound? Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Orr Dunkelman wrote: The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. It is encrypted, but swap is hardly used on my machine. And I didn't say my machine was slow. I said that having my entire home dir encrypted made compilations slow. Besides that, knowing about speeds of encryption and hard drives, it seems that if you use good ciphers, there should be no real performance lose (I know that there is such, but I never figured out why). Maybe because both compilation and encryption are CPU bound? Shachar If you are really into that, work with VM and encrypt/decrypt the directory containing its files. ( Just an example, YMMV ) VM is pretty fast by now, even on desktop machines. Moish ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
He asked about what to do with his broken harddisk. - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Erez D erez0...@gmail.com To: Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: 04-02-2009 13:47 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com wrote: What about /etc/shadow and other sensitive files? so no encrypting your root filesystem is also an issue. What if you put the hard drive under a very strong magnetic field? and what if your laptop is stolen ... - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz To: Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il,Erez D erez0...@gmail.com Date: 04-02-2009 13:02 Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, most of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is horrendously slow. Still, I do it if the data is sensitive (e.g. - all data and sources belonging to clients automatically goes there). I also keep certain important stuff there (my email client folder, my documents folder, browser history etc.) This is fairly easily achieved with symbolic links. Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. This configuration is more dangerous, no doubt, as it is entirely possible that I have missed something (do share if you think of anything). It works pretty well for me, however. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
Erez D wrote: so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. but there are many problems with it. the practical problems are at least: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) that fully support crypto-fs out of the box, so if i use it, i will need to do manual changes every time i upgrade the system. Debian does. The installer even offers to install it for you. 2. it is not really secured if the key is stored on disk. however if the key is not stored on disk, then the computer can not acces the data without human intervention, which is not good either when it comes to servers. What I do is to not encrypt everything (which is a good idea anyways). The root file system and all of the service directories are not encrypted, and only the data is. I also tweak the Debian startup sequence to not ask me for the encryption password during boot. This way, the system boots without a password (but does not contain any data), and I use a small script to perform the actual crypted file system mount later (by which time I can log into the machine from ssh). Hope this helps. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, most of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is horrendously slow. Still, I do it if the data is sensitive (e.g. - all data and sources belonging to clients automatically goes there). I also keep certain important stuff there (my email client folder, my documents folder, browser history etc.) This is fairly easily achieved with symbolic links. Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. This configuration is more dangerous, no doubt, as it is entirely possible that I have missed something (do share if you think of anything). It works pretty well for me, however. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Meir Michanie wrote: He asked about what to do with his broken harddisk. - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Erez D erez0...@gmail.com To: Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: 04-02-2009 13:47 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com wrote: What about /etc/shadow and other sensitive files? so no encrypting your root filesystem is also an issue. What if you put the hard drive under a very strong magnetic field? and what if your laptop is stolen ... - Original Message - Subject: Re: data security From: Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz To: Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.com CC: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il,Erez D erez0...@gmail.com Date: 04-02-2009 13:02 Orr Dunkelman wrote: I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... On my laptop, most of the data is not encrypted. I discovered that compiling inside an encrypted partition is horrendously slow. Still, I do it if the data is sensitive (e.g. - all data and sources belonging to clients automatically goes there). I also keep certain important stuff there (my email client folder, my documents folder, browser history etc.) This is fairly easily achieved with symbolic links. Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. This configuration is more dangerous, no doubt, as it is entirely possible that I have missed something (do share if you think of anything). It works pretty well for me, however. Shachar Take an advice from them: http://www.willitblend.com/ or Locate road compactors http://www.iroads.co.il/MazInternet/General/Pages/HomePage.aspx or buy http://www.veritysystems.com/degaussers/hard-drive-degaussers.asp?sub_category=hdd Moish ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
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Re: data security
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: Also, keep in mind that some things are automatically generated but still sensitive. The most important examples are my bash history file ( .bash_history under your home directory) and the database for the locate command (/var/cache/locate). The former shows a history of the commands I type, and the later has a list of all files on the system, including those inside the encrypted directory. Well, there is no problem in changing the location of locate's database, right? generate /var/sensitive/cache as a third partition, and throw there whatever you need. The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. Besides that, knowing about speeds of encryption and hard drives, it seems that if you use good ciphers, there should be no real performance lose (I know that there is such, but I never figured out why). -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com a scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone - Charles Darwin. GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
This whole encryption thread reminded me of a recent xkcd: http://xkcd.com/538/ :-) --y On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Moish wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Orr Dunkelman wrote: The question is whether your swap partition is encrypted or not. In case it is not - you are probably writing too many secrets to the hard disk. If it is - well, then I can understand why the machine is slow. It is encrypted, but swap is hardly used on my machine. And I didn't say my machine was slow. I said that having my entire home dir encrypted made compilations slow. Besides that, knowing about speeds of encryption and hard drives, it seems that if you use good ciphers, there should be no real performance lose (I know that there is such, but I never figured out why). Maybe because both compilation and encryption are CPU bound? Shachar If you are really into that, work with VM and encrypt/decrypt the directory containing its files. ( Just an example, YMMV ) VM is pretty fast by now, even on desktop machines. Moish ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Yuval Hager [T] +972-77-341-4155 [...@] yu...@avramzon.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com wrote: I am using: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 15 2003 08:05:27) And I have a few unicode characters (unicode encoding 'bomb'/marker) at the beginning of the file that I want to remove. 000 bbef 3cbf 4421 434f 5954 4550 6820 6d74 I m referring to 0xbb, 0xef, 0x3c, 0xbf I would to remove them, but opening the file with vim doesn't show them - as they are markers it hides. Can anyone help me get rid of them? Any solution (not just using VIM) would be great. try this one: perl -i.bak -0777 -pe 's/^\xbb\xef\x3c\xbf//' file.txt it will also create a backup file with .bak extension seeperldoc perlrun Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Test Automation Tipshttp://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
2009/2/4 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: when a hard drive dies and it is under warrenty, we need give the old one when we want it replaced. usuallyon the hard drive we have some personal things - pictures, documents, or confidential data if it belonged to a company etc... assuming the data is backed up (backing-up is an issue for another thread), we are left with the possibility of someone retriving data from the damaged drive. and when the drive is damaged, we can't even access it to erase that info before replacing it with a new one. so i though of a solution - use a crypto FS. but there are many problems with it. the practical problems are at least: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... ) that fully support crypto-fs out of the box, so if i use it, i will need to do manual changes every time i upgrade the system. 2. it is not really secured if the key is stored on disk. however if the key is not stored on disk, then the computer can not acces the data without human intervention, which is not good either when it comes to servers. The solution is thus to have two partitions. One with the OS stuff and configuration, and one which is encrypted and contains your personal data. I guess that the configuration may still reveal some secrets (like which hosts are important enough to be in /etc/hosts), but it's better than nothing... -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com a scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone - Charles Darwin. GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 04:53:26PM +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: I am using: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 15 2003 08:05:27) And I have a few unicode characters (unicode encoding 'bomb'/marker) at the beginning of the file that I want to remove. 000 bbef 3cbf 4421 434f 5954 4550 6820 6d74 I m referring to 0xbb, 0xef, 0x3c, 0xbf I would to remove them, but opening the file with vim doesn't show them - as they are markers it hides. Can anyone help me get rid of them? Any solution (not just using VIM) would be great. You can use xxd. Basic stuff is trivial, google for 'vim xxd' for more. -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
Noam Rathaus wrote: I am using: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 15 2003 08:05:27) And I have a few unicode characters (unicode encoding 'bomb'/marker) at the beginning of the file that I want to remove. 000 bbef 3cbf 4421 434f 5954 4550 6820 6d74 I m referring to 0xbb, 0xef, 0x3c, 0xbf I would to remove them, but opening the file with vim doesn't show them - as they are markers it hides. Can anyone help me get rid of them? Any solution (not just using VIM) would be great. I would use khexedit, myself, or set the locale to C and open with vim. Just a technical note: It's BOM - Byte Order Mark. I've never heard of bomb (in the Unicode context). Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
Noam Rathaus wrote: I am using: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 15 2003 08:05:27) And I have a few unicode characters (unicode encoding 'bomb'/marker) at the beginning of the file that I want to remove. 000 bbef 3cbf 4421 434f 5954 4550 6820 6d74 I m referring to 0xbb, 0xef, 0x3c, 0xbf Supplementing my previous answer, your stated byte order is wrong. The order is 0xef 0xbb 0xbf. The first three bytes of the file are the BOM. The fourth byte, 0x3c, encodes a , and is not part of the meta-data. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: VIM removal of Unicode ('bomb')
Shachar, Not my invention :) do under vim :help bomb It states as you said that the name is BOM On Wednesday 04 February 2009 19:21:41 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Noam Rathaus wrote: I am using: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 15 2003 08:05:27) And I have a few unicode characters (unicode encoding 'bomb'/marker) at the beginning of the file that I want to remove. 000 bbef 3cbf 4421 434f 5954 4550 6820 6d74 I m referring to 0xbb, 0xef, 0x3c, 0xbf I would to remove them, but opening the file with vim doesn't show them - as they are markers it hides. Can anyone help me get rid of them? Any solution (not just using VIM) would be great. I would use khexedit, myself, or set the locale to C and open with vim. Just a technical note: It's BOM - Byte Order Mark. I've never heard of bomb (in the Unicode context). Shachar -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: data security
On Wednesday, 4 בFebruary 2009, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/4 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz Erez D wrote: 1. i do not know of a major linux distibution (i.e. redhat/ubuntu etc... Debian does. The installer even offers to install it for you. And so does Ubuntu. And Fedora also of course ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron No, You Can't Have My Rights, I'm Still Using Them ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
Right now I have a HOT modem and Netvision, which when it works... It also happens to be down as I write this and has been for almost 6 hours. I just left HOT after four years of suffering their constant outages (I had both internet and VOIP telephone). I went to, of all places, Bezeq and I've discovered that Bezeq has improved in the past few years. It is a few (less than ten) shekles more expensive, but so far the service had been terrific and they even included for me a 4-port wireless router built into the modem. I should also mention that the tech who came to my house has been a Bezeq tech for 14 years. It showed in the way he worked. HOT techs always look like they just graduated from Yossi's Technical Garden and when I ask them, they are usually in the field for less than a year. I understand that HOT is new and growing, but they just don't yet have the experience that Bezeq has. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
By the way: did anybody have any experience with UNetbootin? It is not needed for Ori (because the built-in solution of Ubuntu is enough for him), but I ask this question for generic cases, where there is no built-in solution. I have used it but the install failed due to a bug in Ubuntu, the install failed in the same manner when installed from CD. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:54:09 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I have a HOT modem and Netvision, which when it works... It also happens to be down as I write this and has been for almost 6 hours. I just left HOT after four years of suffering their constant outages (I had both internet and VOIP telephone). I went to, of all places, Bezeq and I've discovered that Bezeq has improved in the past few years. It is a few (less than ten) shekles more expensive, but so far the service had been terrific and they even included for me a 4-port wireless router built into the modem. I should also mention that the tech who came to my house has been a Bezeq tech for 14 years. It showed in the way he worked. HOT techs always look like they just graduated from Yossi's Technical Garden and when I ask them, they are usually in the field for less than a year. I understand that HOT is new and growing, but they just don't yet have the experience that Bezeq has. On the other hand, if you go that way, my neighbour who just went the internet way with bezeq and is over 70 has a terrible experience with them. i spent half an hour to convince the guy over the phone that the fact that the modem disconnects from bezeq every few minutes is not related to the fact that they forced her to connect to it wirelessly for some reason. They also sent half way across Haifa to replace it (not sure if she actually did it yet), when she travels by bus and we actually leave outside Haifa and 1.5km from the nearest bus station ... Hot, although the service quality is a bit shitty sent a tech over to my house about 5 times and replaced the modem at my house twice due to connection problems. they are all worthless, it mostly depends on what exactly you need from the at the time. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Bogofilter on a shared folder
Hi, We have a few shared folders in our Cyrus mail server. These shared folders do not have a real user behind them, rather more than one opens them (via Other Users option). As such no one filters their incoming emails for spam. Some background our setup, we use: 1) Postfix for SMTP 2) Procmail for processing of emails 3) Cyrus for IMAP (mail storage) I wondered if anyone has setup something of this sorts - I couldn't find a distinctive guide on the Internet on how to do it: 1) Bogofilter any incoming mail to this folder 2) Allow training (ham and spam) of this bogofilter via two folders that will include spam emails - or via forwarding as an attachment to two email addresses - whichever is better for bogofilter - I am not sure which Thank you for the attention. -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Another site for the list: http://e-services.clalit.org.il You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it references document.frames which is an IE only feature. On Monday 05 January 2009 15:27:09 you wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 14:04, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks. Website of Beitar Ilit bus company: http://www.illit-t.co.il/ http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm Looks ugly https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ A legitimate customer can not login. https://www.leumit.co.il -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. Beyond Security Finalist for the Red Herring 100 Global Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
It seems that the DoK solution is not good for me. The computer I am trying to install on is IBM ThinkPad X31 and it seems that it can't boot from DoK so although I have a working Ubuntu DoK I can not use it for my computer. Does anyone have any idea how can I install Ubuntu on this computer without a CD? The computer already has an old version of Debian running on it. -- Ori Idan On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: By the way: did anybody have any experience with UNetbootin? It is not needed for Ori (because the built-in solution of Ubuntu is enough for him), but I ask this question for generic cases, where there is no built-in solution. I have used it but the install failed due to a bug in Ubuntu, the install failed in the same manner when installed from CD. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:06:58AM +0200, Ori Idan wrote: It seems that the DoK solution is not good for me. The computer I am trying to install on is IBM ThinkPad X31 and it seems that it can't boot from DoK so although I have a working Ubuntu DoK I can not use it for my computer. Does anyone have any idea how can I install Ubuntu on this computer without a CD? The computer already has an old version of Debian running on it. Are you sure the DOK actually works? It may also be that the DOK does not work properly with the computer, I have had that problem, but that was a long time ago. Make sure it is directly connected to the computer, I have had trouble using a hub when booting from a DOK. I did a quick web search and found: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dpelleg/X31_freebsd.html For the purposes of installing, I think it is safe to assume it works the same with Linux as FreeBSD. The web page says: Straightforward, using an external USB CD-ROM. If you remember my post answering your question, I suggested that an external DVD drive would do. I repeat my offer, if you are in Jerusalem, you are welcome to come here with it. I have both a working Ubuntu DOK, and an external USB DVD drive. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:54:09AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I just left HOT after four years of suffering their constant outages (I had both internet and VOIP telephone). I went to, of all places, Bezeq and I've discovered that Bezeq has improved in the past few years. It is a few (less than ten) shekles more expensive, but so far the service had been terrific and they even included for me a 4-port wireless router built into the modem. I should also mention that the tech who came to my house has been a Bezeq tech for 14 years. It showed in the way he worked. HOT techs always look like they just graduated from Yossi's Technical Garden and when I ask them, they are usually in the field for less than a year. I understand that HOT is new and growing, but they just don't yet have the experience that Bezeq has. Thanks. When I finally called, a tech tested my modem and told me it was unreachable. The tech put me on hold and came back and told me it was a wide area outage. When it came back, he called me and we went through some diagnostics with my modem which had also become hosed. Since then (foo,foo,foo), it's working fine. I have the business class service because you could not get a decent upload speed without it when I upgraded last. I expect by now you can get better download and upload speeds with the regular service. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn Amichai Rotman requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: -- Baruch, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Amichai View invitation from Amichai Rotman http://www.linkedin.com/e/hPHQ5pBITDV0c2nfyoJb6QEoY8pMcABe1tM/blk/983015810_2/cBYMcjwRcj0Pe3ALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ -- Why might connecting with Amichai Rotman be a good idea? Have a question? Amichai Rotman's network will probably have an answer: You can use LinkedIn Answers to distribute your professional questions to Amichai Rotman and your extended network. You can get high-quality answers from experienced professionals. http://www.linkedin.com/e/ash/inv19_ayn/ -- (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
