ping problems
hi i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat, related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc). if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70) using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan interface but none come back. any idea ? erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ping problems
If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work? If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after a hang - is it released? an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is the MTU on the lan/wan? Also, use a tool like mtr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet loss along the route. 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: hi i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat, related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc). if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70) using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan interface but none come back. any idea ? erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Frank Lloyd Wright - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ping problems
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote: If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work? a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after a hang - is it released? an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is the MTU on the lan/wan? as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same size) also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are spread randomly but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail Also, use a tool like mtr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_%28My_traceroute%29to detect any packet loss along the route. mtr works from both router and lan there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target but it is the same for both router and lan. thanks, erez. 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: hi i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat, related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc). if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70) using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan interface but none come back. any idea ? erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Frank Lloyd Wright - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ping problems
Try netstat -s to checks for errors/drops on the WAN interface. Anything interesting? If a ping from the router always succeeds, and after some time fails from the lan AND during failure you see the packets go from the lan out to the wan but doesn't come back at all - it sounds like something is wrong with the outgoing ping request packet. Did you see any difference between a goog ping and bad ping packets? On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:05, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote: If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work? a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after a hang - is it released? an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is the MTU on the lan/wan? as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same size) also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are spread randomly but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail Also, use a tool like mtr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet loss along the route. mtr works from both router and lan there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target but it is the same for both router and lan. thanks, erez. 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: hi i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat, related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc). if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70) using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan interface but none come back. any idea ? erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Frank Lloyd Wright - TV is chewing gum for the eyes. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html -- Mitch Hedberg - My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mitch_hedberg.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Radio Kol Chai Under Linux
Hi. Anyone know how I can listen to Radio Kol Chai (www.93fm.co.il) under linux. Maybe a mms URL ? TIA. -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone
Shay Ohayon wrote: There is also a talk given by Gilad Ben-Yoseff (anyone know if the slides of the presentation are available somewhere?) and the documentation for development is pretty good. Slides and video of the lecture (thanbks to Yael Vaya and Crictor) are here: http://tuxology.net/lectures/google-android-open-source-phone-stack/ Hebrew support is fine, you just install the fonts and its there (gilad also has a post about this) and someone wrote an application called hebkeys that i havent tested but gives you a virtual keyboard on screen for hebrew typing. The fonts are on my blog http://firstpost.org/. Hebkeys, by Hezi Cohen, is here: http://code.snippets.co.il/hebkey and the latest pre-release version also supports the hardware keyboard of the G1. This makes me look into direction of Android G1. It is too young to have elaborated applications support, but it already has Actually, the application support for Android is remarkably good for something which is only commercially available for 6 months. For example, I just spotted today a Home screen widget that displays Haaretz news headlines (in Hebrew) in the Android application market today... My bottom line would be: if X is openess of the phone stack and Y is it's quality, then Android based phones have the highest X*Y ratio I know... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker CTO Codefidence Ltd. Web: http://codefidence.com Cell: +972-52-8260388 Tel: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax: +972-8-9316884 Email: gi...@codefidence.com Check out our Open Source technology and training blog - http://tuxology.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Internet Customer Service
Hi all, First, apologies to those on the other lists I'm posting this to. I'm so excited I had to tell everyone :) It appears that someone somewhere is listening to what we need, and doing something about it. This morning I had a local customer who is not technically inclined enough to set up their own VoIP router, so I went over there to do it for them. They are an older couple with an older PC and no real idea how it all works. Their adult son had set them up and is out of the country at the moment. So I went there, together we phoned their ISP, 012, to tell them we were installing a new router. The tech on their end said to set the router to Obtain IP address automatically, and call HOT with the confirmation number they gave us, in order to change to an account that doesn't need a dialer. We phoned HOT, gave them the confirmation number, and it just worked. This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and explain to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't imagine why anyone would need an account without a dialer. Then I had to wait a week for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on the phone with level after level of customer support and technicians to make sure it actually got done. Israel has entered the modern age! Yay! I realize this isn't directly linux-related, but it's certainly relevant to those of us not running windows and our ability to get what we need from the service providers who've locked us out in the past. --sambo ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Internet Customer Service
This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and explain to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't imagine why anyone would need an account without a dialer. Then I had to wait a week for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on the phone with level after level of customer support and technicians to make sure it actually got done. I also spent around 10 hours on the phone with HOT and barak, separately and together, about 3 years ago to get a dialer-less connection. I think their internal integration system simply sucked. Last year, moving to bezeqint, it only took 3 days, and a couple of hours on the phone. Good to know they continued to improve since then :) --y ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone
2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com This makes me look into direction of Android G1. http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=728197 Since it's arrival to Europe, several stores in zap started shipping the G2 (HTC Magic) which supposed to be exactly the same as G1 but with no keyboard and sexier look. It also seems like people found a way to root it: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting Anybody with G2 experiences to share around here? Shlomil. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
anybody using adsl with openwrt+kamikaze ?
if so, please send me your adsl config thanks, erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Internet Customer Service
Hi, I found that even with Bezeq Beinleumi, which were giving non dialer account, I needed to spend 3 days barking on Hot and them. Hope I will have your experience next time. Kfir On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM, sammy ominsky s...@avoidant.org wrote: Hi all, First, apologies to those on the other lists I'm posting this to. I'm so excited I had to tell everyone :) It appears that someone somewhere is listening to what we need, and doing something about it. This morning I had a local customer who is not technically inclined enough to set up their own VoIP router, so I went over there to do it for them. They are an older couple with an older PC and no real idea how it all works. Their adult son had set them up and is out of the country at the moment. So I went there, together we phoned their ISP, 012, to tell them we were installing a new router. The tech on their end said to set the router to Obtain IP address automatically, and call HOT with the confirmation number they gave us, in order to change to an account that doesn't need a dialer. We phoned HOT, gave them the confirmation number, and it just worked. This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and explain to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't imagine why anyone would need an account without a dialer. Then I had to wait a week for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on the phone with level after level of customer support and technicians to make sure it actually got done. Israel has entered the modern age! Yay! I realize this isn't directly linux-related, but it's certainly relevant to those of us not running windows and our ability to get what we need from the service providers who've locked us out in the past. --sambo ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Radio Kol Chai Under Linux
mplayer 'mms:// s3iwm.castup.net/995150001-52.wmv?ct=ILrg=BZaid=515tkn=20090527181206ts=0cu=7BC601D6-7C75-489E-AB05-AC51773E35F7 ' -- Arie 2009/5/27 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com Hi. Anyone know how I can listen to Radio Kol Chai (www.93fm.co.il) under linux. Maybe a mms URL ? TIA. -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is | aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone
Be careful how you phrase your messages, in some parts of the world to root means to bury, in others it means to f*** :) -Amos On 5/27/09, Shlomi Loubaton shlomis...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com This makes me look into direction of Android G1. http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=728197 Since it's arrival to Europe, several stores in zap started shipping the G2 (HTC Magic) which supposed to be exactly the same as G1 but with no keyboard and sexier look. It also seems like people found a way to root it: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting Anybody with G2 experiences to share around here? Shlomil. -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il