ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Erez D
hi

i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).

if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings
works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70)
using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
interface but none come back.

any idea ?
erez.
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Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Aviv Greenberg
If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?
If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
a hang - is it released?
an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
the MTU on the lan/wan?

Also, use a tool like mtr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet
loss along the route.

2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
 hi

 i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
 related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).

 if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
 however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings
 works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70)
 using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
 interface but none come back.

 any idea ?
 erez.

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Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Erez D
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?

a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead


 If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
 a hang - is it released?
 an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
 the MTU on the lan/wan?

as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same
size)
also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are
spread randomly
but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail



 Also, use a tool like mtr
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_%28My_traceroute%29to
  detect any packet
 loss along the route.

mtr works from both router and lan
there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target
but it is the same for both router and lan.

thanks,
erez.



 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
  hi
 
  i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
  related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).
 
  if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
  however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70
 pings
  works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first
 30-70)
  using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
  interface but none come back.
 
  any idea ?
  erez.
 
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Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Aviv Greenberg
Try netstat -s to checks for errors/drops on the WAN interface.
Anything interesting?

If a ping from the router always succeeds, and after some time fails
from the lan AND during failure you see the packets go from the lan
out to the wan but doesn't come back at all - it sounds like something
is wrong with the outgoing ping request packet.

Did you see any difference between a goog ping and bad ping packets?

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:05, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?

 a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead

 If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
 a hang - is it released?
 an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
 the MTU on the lan/wan?

 as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same
 size)
 also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are
 spread randomly
 but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail


 Also, use a tool like mtr
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet
 loss along the route.

 mtr works from both router and lan
 there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target
 but it is the same for both router and lan.

 thanks,
 erez.


 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
  hi
 
  i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
  related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).
 
  if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
  however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70
  pings
  works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first
  30-70)
  using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
  interface but none come back.
 
  any idea ?
  erez.
 
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Radio Kol Chai Under Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Aharon Schkolnik

Hi.

Anyone know how I can listen to Radio Kol Chai (www.93fm.co.il) under linux.

Maybe a mms URL ?

TIA.
 
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Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone

2009-05-27 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Shay Ohayon wrote:


There is also a talk given by Gilad Ben-Yoseff (anyone know if the
slides of the presentation are available somewhere?) and the
documentation for development is pretty good.
  

Slides and video of the lecture (thanbks to Yael Vaya and Crictor) are here:
http://tuxology.net/lectures/google-android-open-source-phone-stack/

Hebrew support is fine, you just install the fonts and its there
(gilad also has a post about this) and someone wrote an application
called hebkeys  that i havent tested but gives you a virtual
keyboard on screen for hebrew typing.
  


The fonts are on my blog http://firstpost.org/.

Hebkeys, by Hezi Cohen, is here: http://code.snippets.co.il/hebkey
and the latest pre-release version also supports the hardware keyboard 
of the G1.



This makes me look into direction of Android G1. It is too young to
have elaborated applications support, but it already has



Actually, the application support for Android is remarkably good for 
something which is only commercially available for 6 months. For 
example, I just spotted today a Home screen widget that displays Haaretz 
news headlines (in Hebrew) in the Android application market today...


My bottom line would be: if X is openess of the phone stack and Y is 
it's quality, then Android based phones have the highest X*Y ratio I know...


Gilad


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Internet Customer Service

2009-05-27 Thread sammy ominsky

Hi all,

First, apologies to those on the other lists I'm posting this to.  I'm  
so excited I had to tell everyone :)


It appears that someone somewhere is listening to what we need, and  
doing something about it.


This morning I had a local customer who is not technically inclined  
enough to set up their own VoIP router, so I went over there to do it  
for them.  They are an older couple with an older PC and no real idea  
how it all works. Their adult son had set them up and is out of the  
country at the moment.


So I went there, together we phoned their ISP, 012, to tell them we  
were installing a new router.  The tech on their end said to set the  
router to Obtain IP address automatically, and call HOT with the  
confirmation number they gave us, in order to change to an account  
that doesn't need a dialer.  We phoned HOT, gave them the confirmation  
number, and it just worked.


This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and  
explain to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't  
imagine why anyone would need an account without a dialer.  Then I had  
to wait a week for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on  
the phone with level after level of customer support and technicians  
to make sure it actually got done.


Israel has entered the modern age!  Yay!

I realize this isn't directly linux-related, but it's certainly  
relevant to those of us not running windows and our ability to get  
what we need from the service providers who've locked us out in the  
past.


--sambo

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Re: Internet Customer Service

2009-05-27 Thread Yuval Hager
 This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and
 explain to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't
 imagine why anyone would need an account without a dialer.  Then I had
 to wait a week for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on
 the phone with level after level of customer support and technicians
 to make sure it actually got done.


I also spent around 10 hours on the phone with HOT and barak, separately and 
together, about 3 years ago to get a dialer-less connection. I think their 
internal integration system simply sucked.
Last year, moving to bezeqint, it only took 3 days, and a couple of hours on 
the phone. Good to know they continued to improve since then :)

--y

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Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone

2009-05-27 Thread Shlomi Loubaton
2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com

 This makes me look into direction of Android G1.


http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=728197

Since it's arrival to Europe, several stores in zap started shipping the G2
(HTC Magic) which supposed to be exactly the same as G1 but with no keyboard
and sexier look. It also seems like people found a way to root it:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting

Anybody with G2 experiences to share around here?

Shlomil.
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anybody using adsl with openwrt+kamikaze ?

2009-05-27 Thread Erez D
if so, please send me your adsl config

thanks,
erez.
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Re: Internet Customer Service

2009-05-27 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi,
I found that even with Bezeq Beinleumi, which were giving non dialer
account, I needed to spend 3 days barking on Hot and them.
Hope I will have your experience next time.

Kfir

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM, sammy ominsky s...@avoidant.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 First, apologies to those on the other lists I'm posting this to.  I'm so
 excited I had to tell everyone :)

 It appears that someone somewhere is listening to what we need, and doing
 something about it.

 This morning I had a local customer who is not technically inclined enough
 to set up their own VoIP router, so I went over there to do it for them.
  They are an older couple with an older PC and no real idea how it all
 works. Their adult son had set them up and is out of the country at the
 moment.

 So I went there, together we phoned their ISP, 012, to tell them we were
 installing a new router.  The tech on their end said to set the router to
 Obtain IP address automatically, and call HOT with the confirmation number
 they gave us, in order to change to an account that doesn't need a dialer.
  We phoned HOT, gave them the confirmation number, and it just worked.

 This is a HUGE change from a few years ago, when I had to call and explain
 to the customer service rep what I wanted to do, who couldn't imagine why
 anyone would need an account without a dialer.  Then I had to wait a week
 for HOT to set up MPLS, and spend hours and hours on the phone with level
 after level of customer support and technicians to make sure it actually got
 done.

 Israel has entered the modern age!  Yay!

 I realize this isn't directly linux-related, but it's certainly relevant to
 those of us not running windows and our ability to get what we need from the
 service providers who've locked us out in the past.

 --sambo

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Re: Radio Kol Chai Under Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Arie Skliarouk
mplayer 'mms://
s3iwm.castup.net/995150001-52.wmv?ct=ILrg=BZaid=515tkn=20090527181206ts=0cu=7BC601D6-7C75-489E-AB05-AC51773E35F7
'

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2009/5/27 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com


 Hi.


 Anyone know how I can listen to Radio Kol Chai (www.93fm.co.il) under
 linux.


 Maybe a mms URL ?


 TIA.

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 and the laborers are lazy, and the reward |
 is great, and the Master of the house is | aschkol...@gmail.com
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Re: Perpetual quest for GNU smartphone

2009-05-27 Thread Amos Shapira
Be careful how you phrase your messages, in some parts of the world
to root means to bury, in others it means to f***

:)

-Amos

On 5/27/09, Shlomi Loubaton shlomis...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com

 This makes me look into direction of Android G1.


 http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=728197

 Since it's arrival to Europe, several stores in zap started shipping the G2
 (HTC Magic) which supposed to be exactly the same as G1 but with no keyboard
 and sexier look. It also seems like people found a way to root it:
 http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting

 Anybody with G2 experiences to share around here?

 Shlomil.


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Sent from my mobile device

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