Re: A simple question about hebrew in terminal

2009-06-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:32:34AM +0300, Dan Shimshoni wrote:
 Hello,
  I have support in hebrew on my Linux desktop (Fedora 10).
 I can switch to hebrew with the keyboard indicator and it works.
 
 Say I want to perform a simple operation in terminal: rename a file
 named a.txt to קובץ.txt
 
 
 I type:
 mv a.txt and then, when I type: ק and then ו and then ב and then
 ץ it shows:
  ץבוק
 
 I can of course write the letters in reverse order, but this is not
 comfortable to do it for each rename
 operation.

Why not use tab completion?

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Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi,

I am trying to get nmap to be a bit more friendly by wrapping it
inside a perl script that will cause it to spit out a status by
sending it a character:
==
#!/usr/bin/perl
use IPC::Open3;
use POSIX :sys_wait_h;
use FileHandle;

$| = 1;
my $nmap = /usr/bin/nmap;
my @ips = ('192.168.1.*');

my $cmdline =  $nmap $args -v -v -v -sT -p 1-65535 -oX - .(join ' ',@ips);
print cmdline: $cmdline\n;

my ($readfh, $writefh, $errorfh) = (FileHandle-new(),
FileHandle-new(), FileHandle-new());

my $pid = 0;

$pid = open3($writefh, $readfh, $errorfh, $cmdline) || die Can't open
pipe to $cmdline: $!\n;

while($readfh) {
 print $_;
 print $writefh A;
}

print STDERR done\n;

==

nmap will give out a progress if keyWasPressed is detected the code
for this is found inside nmap_tty.cc which basically does:
 if ((c = tty_getchar()) = 0) {

For some reason the above code doesn't do it, is it because its not
being sent via tty? if so is there a way to fool it?

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Re: Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Noam Rathaus
Gabor,

Those two are great packages, but they don't get a more frequent
progressbar than that which is spit out by Nmap, which is problematic
if you want to show it more interactively to the user.


BTW:
1) the first one has several bugs, for example it gets stuck as it
waits for the IO which never comes :D - but it is easy to fix... just
remove the $error join which is found in the Parser
2) the second one is synchronic only (doesn't support asynchronic),
which is problematic

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Gabor Szaboszab...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Noam Rathausno...@beyondsecurity.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to get nmap to be a bit more friendly by wrapping it
 inside a perl script that will cause it to spit out a status by
 sending it a character:

 I don't know much about nmap but have you looked at either of the
 following modules ?

 http://search.cpan.org/dist/Nmap-Scanner/
 http://search.cpan.org/dist/Nmap-Parser/

 Gabor
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Re: Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Noam!

A few comments on your Perl code.

On Thursday 25 June 2009 10:59:47 Noam Rathaus wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to get nmap to be a bit more friendly by wrapping it
 inside a perl script that will cause it to spit out a status by
 sending it a character:
 ==
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 use IPC::Open3;
 use POSIX :sys_wait_h;
 use FileHandle;


1. You should add use strict; and use warnings;. They prevent many common 
errors. 

2. The FileHandle module was largely superseded by IO::File, IO::Socket, etc. 
You should use them instead.


 $| = 1;
 my $nmap = /usr/bin/nmap;
 my @ips = ('192.168.1.*');

 my $cmdline =  $nmap $args -v -v -v -sT -p 1-65535 -oX - .(join '
 ',@ips); print cmdline: $cmdline\n;


Where is $args declared and defined?

Also consider using http://search.cpan.org/dist/String-ShellQuote/ .

 my ($readfh, $writefh, $errorfh) = (FileHandle-new(),
 FileHandle-new(), FileHandle-new());


This can be more elegantly written as map { IO::Handle-new() } (1 .. 3);

 my $pid = 0;

 $pid = open3($writefh, $readfh, $errorfh, $cmdline) || die Can't open
 pipe to $cmdline: $!\n;

 while($readfh) {
  print $_;
  print $writefh A;
 }


Perhaps read one character at a time here? (Or set $/ ?)

 print STDERR done\n;

 ==


Regards,

Shlomi Fish

 nmap will give out a progress if keyWasPressed is detected the code
 for this is found inside nmap_tty.cc which basically does:
  if ((c = tty_getchar()) = 0) {

 For some reason the above code doesn't do it, is it because its not
 being sent via tty? if so is there a way to fool it?

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Re: Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Noam Rathausno...@beyondsecurity.com wrote:
 Gabor,

 Those two are great packages, but they don't get a more frequent
 progressbar than that which is spit out by Nmap, which is problematic
 if you want to show it more interactively to the user.


 BTW:
 1) the first one has several bugs, for example it gets stuck as it
 waits for the IO which never comes :D - but it is easy to fix... just
 remove the $error join which is found in the Parser
 2) the second one is synchronic only (doesn't support asynchronic),
 which is problematic

Have you reported those bugs (feature request) ?

You know it is very easy to report a bug, just send an e-mail to

bug-Nmap-Scanner at rt.cpan.org
bug-Nmap-Parser at rt.cpan.org

with details of what you have encountered.

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Re: Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Noam Rathaus
Gabor,

I did - but these two packages appear to be left-ware, they haven't
been updated it quite a while.

Nmap-Scanner = October 29, 2006
Nmap-Parser =   07 Nov 2008

The first appears much more dead then the second one, which is a shame
as the first one is more comprehensive than the second one.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Gabor Szaboszab...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Noam Rathausno...@beyondsecurity.com 
 wrote:
 Gabor,

 Those two are great packages, but they don't get a more frequent
 progressbar than that which is spit out by Nmap, which is problematic
 if you want to show it more interactively to the user.


 BTW:
 1) the first one has several bugs, for example it gets stuck as it
 waits for the IO which never comes :D - but it is easy to fix... just
 remove the $error join which is found in the Parser
 2) the second one is synchronic only (doesn't support asynchronic),
 which is problematic

 Have you reported those bugs (feature request) ?

 You know it is very easy to report a bug, just send an e-mail to

 bug-Nmap-Scanner at rt.cpan.org
 bug-Nmap-Parser at rt.cpan.org

 with details of what you have encountered.

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Re: Nmap, tty and Perl

2009-06-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Noam Rathausno...@beyondsecurity.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to get nmap to be a bit more friendly by wrapping it
 inside a perl script that will cause it to spit out a status by
 sending it a character:

I don't know much about nmap but have you looked at either of the
following modules ?

http://search.cpan.org/dist/Nmap-Scanner/
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Nmap-Parser/

Gabor
http://www.perl.org.il/

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Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Ori Idan
I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
I have started rpcbind and nfs
From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the
directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
failed

I googled for guides on NFS on fedora and it seems I did everything fine and
it still does not work.
Does anyone have any idea?

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Dotan Shavit
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Ori Idan wrote:
 I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
 I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
 I have started rpcbind and nfs

 From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the

 directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
 failed

 I googled for guides on NFS on fedora and it seems I did everything fine
 and it still does not work.
 Does anyone have any idea?
FW ?

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Ori Idan
I have checked again and made sure firewall is disabled and still get the
same problem.

-- 
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Dotan Shavit do...@shavitos.com wrote:

 On Thursday 25 June 2009, Ori Idan wrote:
  I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
  I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
  I have started rpcbind and nfs
 
  From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the
 
  directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
  failed
 
  I googled for guides on NFS on fedora and it seems I did everything fine
  and it still does not work.
  Does anyone have any idea?
 FW ?

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread shimi
2009/6/25 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il

 I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
 I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
 I have started rpcbind and nfs
 From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the
 directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
 failed

 I googled for guides on NFS on fedora and it seems I did everything fine
 and it still does not work.
 Does anyone have any idea?

 --
 Ori Idan



Maybe dmesg output on both sides to see if there's anything interesting?

Of course, we assume that you checked that normal connectivity works (ping,
ssh, etc). Note that FW can be on both ends.

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Dotan Shavit
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Ori Idan wrote:
 I have checked again and made sure firewall is disabled and still get the
 same problem.
First try mounting from the same machine.
And... check the log files...

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Rami Rosen
Ori,

 1) can you post here the output of your mounting trial with verbose mode:
(mount -v) ?

(and the exact mount options you are using)

2) Also : can you post /etc/exports ?

Best Regards,
Rami Rosen

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Dotan Shavitdo...@shavitos.com wrote:
 On Thursday 25 June 2009, Ori Idan wrote:
 I have checked again and made sure firewall is disabled and still get the
 same problem.
 First try mounting from the same machine.
 And... check the log files...

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Noam Meltzer
Try to see that RPC is working properly  the shares are really exported:

from the server run:
rpcinfo -p 0 (shows RPC) - check for NFS entries
showmount -e 0 - check that you see the shares you expect

from the client run the same commands just with the IP address of the server
instead of 0

sometimes /var/log/messages on the server can be useful as well, for
instance when you have permissions problems because of bad DNS
configurations.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Rami Rosen rosenr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ori,

  1) can you post here the output of your mounting trial with verbose mode:
 (mount -v) ?

 (and the exact mount options you are using)

 2) Also : can you post /etc/exports ?

 Best Regards,
 Rami Rosen

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Dotan Shavitdo...@shavitos.com wrote:
  On Thursday 25 June 2009, Ori Idan wrote:
  I have checked again and made sure firewall is disabled and still get
 the
  same problem.
  First try mounting from the same machine.
  And... check the log files...
 
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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Valery Reznic



--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote:

 From: Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il
 Subject: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9
 To: IGLU Mailing list linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 2:27 PM
 I am trying to set an
 NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
 I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
 I have started rpcbind and nfs 
 From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried
 mounting the directory. After few seconds I got an error
 mount.nfs mount system call failed
 
 
 I googled for guides on NFS on fedora and it seems I did
 everything fine and it still does not work.
 Does anyone have any idea?
Has NFS server anything interesting in it's log files ?

Valery

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Re: Why is GNU/Linux so Bloated?

2009-06-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

On Thursday 11 June 2009 16:59:32 Shlomi Fish wrote:
 Hi all!

 Based on the gcc-4.4.0 (with -Os) / x86-Linux shared library sizes here:

 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fc-solve-discuss/message/998

 And the Visual C++/Win32 (also x86) .dll sizes here:

 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fc-solve-discuss/message/999

 My question is: why are the Visual C++ generated binaries so much smaller
 than the equivalent Linux ones? Any insights would be appreciated.


Replying to myself, I'd like to note that I recently fixed some build problems 
in the Freecell Solver distribution, and after I was through, MSVC now 
generates a larger .dll file, comparable in size to the gcc -Os one - i.e: 
40K-50K. I guess it previously wasn't built correctly.

Regards,

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Re: Why is GNU/Linux so Bloated?

2009-06-25 Thread Baruch Siach
Hi Shlomi,
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 04:20:00PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 Replying to myself, I'd like to note that I recently fixed some build 
 problems in the Freecell Solver distribution, and after I was through, MSVC 
 now generates a larger .dll file, comparable in size to the gcc -Os one - 
 i.e: 40K-50K. I guess it previously wasn't built correctly.

Care to elaborate on those build problems? What build option caused the binary 
size bloat?

baruch

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web based email/malling list tool

2009-06-25 Thread ik
Hello,

I'm looking for a FOSS based tool to manage multiple email groups with the
ability to send mass email to people who register for it (that is, not a
spam but rather something closer to a malling list).

The thing is, that it should contain support for generating using web based
app email  HTML and text based messages.

Does anyone here know of a good tool that does this sort of things ?

Please note that I have tried Dada and it contains a lot more then what I
need, and it's not that trivial to remove things from it.

Thanks,
Ido

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Re: Why is GNU/Linux so Bloated?

2009-06-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 25 June 2009 16:52:11 Baruch Siach wrote:
 Hi Shlomi,

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 04:20:00PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
  Replying to myself, I'd like to note that I recently fixed some build
  problems in the Freecell Solver distribution, and after I was through,
  MSVC now generates a larger .dll file, comparable in size to the gcc -Os
  one - i.e: 40K-50K. I guess it previously wasn't built correctly.

 Care to elaborate on those build problems? What build option caused the
 binary size bloat?


Actually, it is the other way around. Some build issues caused MSVC to 
generate much smaller (and probably mal-functioning) binaries. I fixed several 
problems now that caused it to fail in the 2.32.0 release. However, with a 
previous release, the build did not fail (but generated the small binaries). 
The NEWS file for 2.32.1 reads:

{
Version 2.32.1: (25-Jun-2009)
-

1. Added a #define BUILDING_DLL 1 so fcs_dllexport.h will work fine on
Microsoft Visual C++.

2. Normalised the DLLEXPORT modifiers.

3. Some fixes to the CMake build system: 
- CHECK_C_COMPILER_FLAG now uses a different variable for each flag,
since the variable was cached.
- tcmalloc is now truly optional.

4. Moved the declaration of the strncasecmp(a,b,c) macro for WIN32 systems
to before its first use.

5. All of this was done to fix many build/compilation problems.
}

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Oron Peled
On 25.06.2009 Ori Idan wrote:
 I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
 I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
 I have started rpcbind and nfs
 From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the
 directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
 failed

First let's test the network end-to-end. From the client:
  $ rpcinfo -t server 15
  program 15 version 1 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 2 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 3 ready and waiting
  $ rpcinfo -u server 15
  program 15 version 1 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 2 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 3 ready and waiting

Than repeat the test for the nfs protocol itself (use 13 instead
of 15).

These tests send a null request and test the result. If they pass:
 * No need to test connectivity or firewall.
 * No need to test rpcbind work OK.
 * No need to test that the service itself is OK.
 * Just config/permission problems.
If they fail, you now have a list of what to test...

One last note -- Fedora-9 is EOL in ~two weeks. Better plan your
upgrade/replacement path (I already upgraded all my hosts to F11)

Cheers,

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Re: A simple question about hebrew in terminal

2009-06-25 Thread Michael Vasiliev
Herouth Maoz wrote:
 Quoting Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com:

 and if you show it in a BiDi aware application (say, konqueror or 
 whatever file explorer you use), it will show properly.

 It is true that if I try to browse the contents of this directory with
 mozilla for example, it shows indeed :
 File:קובץ.a

 However, when I try to look at the contents of that directory using
 midnight commander, it shows garbage.
 something like: ץ???ק.a

 And it is important for me to view the contents of directories with
 hebrew file names properly with midnight commander as it is my daily
 file management app.

 seems that midnight commander has an encoding rather than BiDi issue.
 You should look for a way to set up its encoding, to be aware of UTF-8
 file names.

Not all MC versions with the the same version number are born equal.
Some distros such as RH went as far as writing their own patches to MC
for UTF-8 support and better looks.

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Re: Setting NFS server on Fedora Core 9

2009-06-25 Thread Ori Idan
It's all working now.
The problem was firewall only.

-- 
Ori Idan


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote:

 On 25.06.2009 Ori Idan wrote:
  I am trying to set an NFS server (for a local network) on fedora 9
  I have exported the directory in /etc/exports
  I have started rpcbind and nfs
  From another computer (in this case running Ubuntu) I tried mounting the
  directory. After few seconds I got an error mount.nfs mount system call
  failed

 First let's test the network end-to-end. From the client:
  $ rpcinfo -t server 15
  program 15 version 1 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 2 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 3 ready and waiting
  $ rpcinfo -u server 15
  program 15 version 1 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 2 ready and waiting
  program 15 version 3 ready and waiting

 Than repeat the test for the nfs protocol itself (use 13 instead
 of 15).

 These tests send a null request and test the result. If they pass:
  * No need to test connectivity or firewall.
  * No need to test rpcbind work OK.
  * No need to test that the service itself is OK.
  * Just config/permission problems.
 If they fail, you now have a list of what to test...

 One last note -- Fedora-9 is EOL in ~two weeks. Better plan your
 upgrade/replacement path (I already upgraded all my hosts to F11)

 Cheers,

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Fwd: XenServer is enterprise-ready and free.

2009-06-25 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi,

I just received a promotion for Free XenServer through
SearchEnterpriseLinux. Can someone explain to me what, if at all, is
the advantage of using it? Can it replace the CentOS 5 Dom0's I use
now and if so will it run my DomU's more efficiently? Or does it just
have a slicker management console?

Here is the beginning of the e-mail I received:

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Date: 2009/6/26
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