Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list
Hi all, The second article about BiDi programming, dubbed common pitfalls, has come up on the Lingnu web site[1]. Enjoy. As usual, comments welcome by email or at my blog (or here, if you think it is relevant, of course). After having spoken against spamming the list with announcements, I am going to live by what I preach. While the series is far from finished, I will not announce any further article in this series on this list. People who want to track when new articles are published are invited to do so by following my blog[2] (directly or through the planet[3]), or directly subscribe to the articles section via RSS[4] or Atom[5]. Enjoy, Shachar 1- http://www.lingnu.com/en/programming/60-bidi-aware-programming-2-pitfalls.html 2 - http://blog.shemesh.biz 3 - http://planet.hamakor.org.il 4 - http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=rss 5 - http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=atom -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list
2009/7/15 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Hi all, The second article about BiDi programming, dubbed common pitfalls, has come up on the Lingnu web site[1]. Enjoy. As usual, comments welcome by email or at my blog (or here, if you think it is relevant, of course). After having spoken against spamming the list with announcements, I am going to live by what I preach. While the series is far from finished, I will not announce any further article in this series on this list. People who want to track when new articles are published are invited to do so by following my blog[2] (directly or through the planet[3]), or directly subscribe to the articles section via RSS[4] or Atom[5]. Enjoy, Shachar 1- http://www.lingnu.com/en/programming/60-bidi-aware-programming-2-pitfalls.html 2 - http://blog.shemesh.biz 3 - http://planet.hamakor.org.il 4 - http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=rss 5 - http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=atom Thank you Shachar. As you are one of the dominant list members (in a good way) and since you exercise discretion in the announcements that you make, I for one welcome you as our local spam overlord and encourage you to post the announcements that you deem relevant to the list. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
inet_ntoa and segmentation fault
Today was the second time that I ran across this problem. Each time I run across it, I search Google, come back empty handed, and then have a second look, find the solution, and altogether waste too much time on a problem I have solved before. As a measure to prevent this, I am posting both problem and solution to this mailing list, that has a high Google juice, so that the next time, I will find my own solution. In other words, I am shamelessly using the list to archive my problems and solutions. The problem: The following code segfaults: printf(%s\n, inet_ntoa(addr) ); The cause: Failing to include the relevant header file. The solution: Add: #include arpa/inet.h Sorry for the noise. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Refactoring a mailing list policy to eliminate a special case (was: Re: Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list)
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 16:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: Thank you Shachar. As you are one of the dominant list members (in a good way) and since you exercise discretion in the announcements that you make, I for one welcome you as our local spam overlord and encourage you to post the announcements that you deem relevant to the list. Instead of making a special exception in behalf of Shachar Shemesh (and later also Gilad Ben-Yossef, Ram-On Agmon, Dov Grobgeld, Shlomi Fish, Lior Kaplan, . . .), I suggest that Shachar add a RSS feed which publishes links to the BiDi programming articles. This is why RSS was conceived in the first place. Then Shachar is to link to the RSS feed in his .signature and Linux-IL will be spam-free to the strictest definition of span. Last time I checked the articles, I found no link to a RSS feed specializing in those articles. --- Omer -- Linux Mint is insecure by design as it won't accept contributions (bug reports) from Israelis who choose to defend themselves against suicide bombers: http://eclelef.blogspot.com/2009/05/palestine_03.html My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list
Dotan Cohen wrote: Thank you Shachar. As you are one of the dominant list members (in a good way) and since you exercise discretion in the announcements that you make, I for one welcome you as our local spam overlord and encourage you to post the announcements that you deem relevant to the list. Hi Dotan, Thank you for your kind words, but I really think it would be better not to create first class and second class list citizens. I totally agree with Omer in that regard. As I'm planning on releasing an article every week (let's see what real life thinks of this one :-0), I think this really would be spamming. Anyone interested can subscribe to the RSS. Anyone not will not be bothered. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refactoring a mailing list policy to eliminate a special case (was: Re: Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list)
Omer Zak wrote: I suggest that Shachar add a RSS feed which publishes links to the BiDi programming articles. This is why RSS was conceived in the first place. Already did at the email that started this thread. If you missed it, it's http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=rss for RSS and http://www.lingnu.com/programming.feed?type=atom for atom (would anyone care to explain the difference between the two?). They are also published on the main articles page (http://www.lingnu.com/en/programming.html) in the standard way. At least on Firefox, all you have to do in order to get them is click the RSS logo at the address bar. Then Shachar is to link to the RSS feed in his .signature and Linux-IL will be spam-free to the strictest definition of span. It can be spam free by mere me not sending any more announcements (at least on this series). The signature idea is interesting, and I'll think of it, but, frankly, I'm in the process of moving all sorts of goodies into the Lingnu site (some new, some already published elsewhere), so I generally recommend checking it out once in a while anyways, and that already has a link in my signature :-) Last time I checked the articles, I found no link to a RSS feed specializing in those articles. It's published in the HTML meta tags, as per the standard. If your browser does not display them, then it's your browser's fault. Like I said, Firefox displays the RSS icon in the right corner of the address bar. Clicking it gives the actual URL, so you can subscribe Firefox to it, or copy it into your standard RSS reader. --- Omer Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Linux Mint
Following up to Omer's sig, does Linux Mint boycott or advocate a boycott of Israel? I read the postings he linked to and I can see that the founder asked for one, but is that still active? If so, it is illegal to donate money from the US and the sponsors should be reported to the appropriate authorities. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Second article about BiDi programming, and last announcement to this list
Thank you for your kind words, but I really think it would be better not to create first class and second class list citizens. I didn't really think of it that way, rather that some users (you, Shlomi, etc) are trustworthy enough to post announcements when you see fit. But I understand the point about not segregating the list into classes, and I agree with that. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Linux / Computer Books in Israel
I live and work in the Jerusalem area. Generally, when I want Linux and/or
other types of computer books (right now I'm learning Perl), I wait till we
have family coming from the US and force them to bring the books to me here.
I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in Israel.
Is there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of books, or
that can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or where I can
pick them up somewhere local in this part of the country?
I have ordered books through a previous employer from Amazon.co.uk, but I
remember it being much more expensive than getting them in the US. What are
your experiences. Thank you.
Shlomo
-
Shlomo Dubrowin
The Solution to the water crisis in Israel:
# According to WikiPedia, the Kinneret can hold
# 4 km^3, so FULL here is in cubit meters
FULL=4000
while [ $LEVEL -lt $FULL ]; do
cat /sea/med /sea/red |\
grep -vi salt |\
tee /sea/dead /lake/kinneret
LEVEL=`du -c /sea/dead /lake/kinneret | grep total | awk '{print $1}'`
done
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Re: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
Have you tried Combooks? I used to invite them to August Penguin to have a
discounted sale of FOSS software (organizers - you might wish to do this
again).
http://www.combooks.co.il/Combooks_Il2/
Orna.
2009/7/15 Shlomo Dubrowin dubrowin.l...@gmail.com
I live and work in the Jerusalem area. Generally, when I want Linux and/or
other types of computer books (right now I'm learning Perl), I wait till we
have family coming from the US and force them to bring the books to me here.
I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in Israel.
Is there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of books, or
that can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or where I can
pick them up somewhere local in this part of the country?
I have ordered books through a previous employer from Amazon.co.uk, but I
remember it being much more expensive than getting them in the US. What are
your experiences. Thank you.
Shlomo
-
Shlomo Dubrowin
The Solution to the water crisis in Israel:
# According to WikiPedia, the Kinneret can hold
# 4 km^3, so FULL here is in cubit meters
FULL=4000
while [ $LEVEL -lt $FULL ]; do
cat /sea/med /sea/red |\
grep -vi salt |\
tee /sea/dead /lake/kinneret
LEVEL=`du -c /sea/dead /lake/kinneret | grep total | awk '{print $1}'`
done
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Re: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
Actually, I considered recommending them too, but made a quick check before.
Ordering The Pragmatic Programmer and Pragmatic Thinking and Learning
from Amazon (+shipping) totals at $77, as opposed to $86 on Combooks. Always
compare :)
Aviv
2009/7/15 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com
Have you tried Combooks? I used to invite them to August Penguin to have a
discounted sale of FOSS software (organizers - you might wish to do this
again).
http://www.combooks.co.il/Combooks_Il2/
Orna.
2009/7/15 Shlomo Dubrowin dubrowin.l...@gmail.com
I live and work in the Jerusalem area. Generally, when I want Linux
and/or other types of computer books (right now I'm learning Perl), I wait
till we have family coming from the US and force them to bring the books to
me here.
I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in
Israel. Is there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of
books, or that can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or
where I can pick them up somewhere local in this part of the country?
I have ordered books through a previous employer from Amazon.co.uk, but I
remember it being much more expensive than getting them in the US. What are
your experiences. Thank you.
Shlomo
-
Shlomo Dubrowin
The Solution to the water crisis in Israel:
# According to WikiPedia, the Kinneret can hold
# 4 km^3, so FULL here is in cubit meters
FULL=4000
while [ $LEVEL -lt $FULL ]; do
cat /sea/med /sea/red |\
grep -vi salt |\
tee /sea/dead /lake/kinneret
LEVEL=`du -c /sea/dead /lake/kinneret | grep total | awk '{print $1}'`
done
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RE: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
I saw the same batch for $73.25 on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pragmatic-Thinking-and-Learning-Refactor-Your-Wetware_W0QQitemZ370225451300QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonfiction_Book?hash=item5633281124_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Pragmatic-Programmer-Hunt-Andrew-New-Book_W0QQitemZ270420258473QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Books_NonFictionBooks_NonFictionBooks_SM?hash=item3ef64daea9_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177_trkparms=%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On
Behalf Of Aviv Ben-Yosef
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:21 PM
To: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
Actually, I considered recommending them too, but made a quick check before.
Ordering The Pragmatic Programmer and Pragmatic Thinking and Learning from
Amazon (+shipping) totals at $77, as opposed to $86 on Combooks. Always compare
:)
Aviv
2009/7/15 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.commailto:ladyp...@gmail.com
Have you tried Combooks? I used to invite them to August Penguin to have a
discounted sale of FOSS software (organizers - you might wish to do this again).
http://www.combooks.co.il/Combooks_Il2/
Orna.
2009/7/15 Shlomo Dubrowin
dubrowin.l...@gmail.commailto:dubrowin.l...@gmail.com
I live and work in the Jerusalem area. Generally, when I want Linux and/or
other types of computer books (right now I'm learning Perl), I wait till we
have family coming from the US and force them to bring the books to me here.
I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in Israel. Is
there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of books, or that
can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or where I can pick
them up somewhere local in this part of the country?
I have ordered books through a previous employer from
Amazon.co.ukhttp://Amazon.co.uk, but I remember it being much more expensive
than getting them in the US. What are your experiences. Thank you.
Shlomo
-
Shlomo Dubrowin
The Solution to the water crisis in Israel:
# According to WikiPedia, the Kinneret can hold
# 4 km^3, so FULL here is in cubit meters
FULL=4000
while [ $LEVEL -lt $FULL ]; do
cat /sea/med /sea/red |\
grep -vi salt |\
tee /sea/dead /lake/kinneret
LEVEL=`du -c /sea/dead /lake/kinneret | grep total | awk '{print $1}'`
done
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Re: inet_ntoa and segmentation fault
Oron Peled wrote: On 15.07.2009 Shachar Shemesh wrote: The problem: The following code segfaults: printf(%s\n, inet_ntoa(addr) ); The cause: Failing to include the relevant header file. The solution: Add: #include arpa/inet.h Easier to catch during compile time: CFLAGS='-Wall -Werror' This would fail the build because of missing prototypes. You are, of course, right. The thing is, I usually use this function (not thread safe etc.) only in tiny test programs, where I don't care as much about warnings. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
On Wednesday 15 July 2009 03:00:09 pm Shlomo Dubrowin wrote: I live and work in the Jerusalem area. Generally, when I want Linux and/or other types of computer books (right now I'm learning Perl), I wait till we have family coming from the US and force them to bring the books to me here. I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in Israel. Is there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of books, or that can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or where I can pick them up somewhere local in this part of the country? Hi Shlomo, If you order your books as eBooks, they'll probably be the same price as in the US because there's no shipping. I sell Troubleshooting books rather than Linux books, but when someone orders an eBook from me, they get it just as fast as a US person and there's obviously no shipping charge -- I email it to them. Personally, I don't sell within countries that don't respect copyright laws (China et al) so all non US orders are accomplished by my sending the customer a Paypal request for payment, but I'd imagine most booksellers just treat everyone the same. I've ordered technical eBooks from these guys and was quite pleased: http://www.pragprog.com/ HTH STeveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: inet_ntoa and segmentation fault
On 15.07.2009 Shachar Shemesh wrote: The problem: The following code segfaults: printf(%s\n, inet_ntoa(addr) ); The cause: Failing to include the relevant header file. The solution: Add: #include arpa/inet.h Easier to catch during compile time: CFLAGS='-Wall -Werror' This would fail the build because of missing prototypes. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Linux lasts longer! -- Kim J. Brand k...@kimbrand.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux / Computer Books in Israel
I keep saying there must be a better way to get good books here in Israel. Is there a bookstore somewhere that already imports these kinds of books, or that can order them for me and deliver them to me via IL Post or where I can pick them up somewhere local in this part of the country? Hi Shlomo, I have found the site www.bookdepository.co.uk very reasonable for buying computer books. They have free worldwide shipping on all books. The two books you were looking for come to a total of $65.77. The benefit of buying from them (based in the UK) rather than the USA is that the shipping from England is much quicker (I would often receive books in under a week). Jason -- Jason Friedman Postdoctoral scholar Macquarie Centre for Cognitive Science Macquarie University, NSW 2109 Australia email: write.to.ja...@gmail.com web: http://curiousjason.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
