Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
2010/1/8 Ohad Levy : > I use it often, usually works well... the only problem for people which have > a lot of latency is that the nokia(or wlan) adds another ~100ms). Yes I know that it works for many. But personally when I tried to connect the E71 or any soft phone either to an Australian VoIP provider (PennyTel) or my own Asterisk box in the US (which someone else setup for me, I since then backed it up and stopped maintaining) it just didn't work. Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Beware of PayPal + request for advice
> And request for advice: do you know how I can transfer money to a > USA bank account (or PayPal account), and receive the money in Israel? > I don't have a USA bank account. I can't receive the money from > PayPal in US dollars - that's not an option. I want to pay minimal > fees. Do you have an idea? > Can you get a Paypal debit card? With that you can withdraw cash from Israeli ATMs. I do that all the time, but my Paypal is a US account. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Beware of PayPal + request for advice
I read few months ago when paypal started to work with israel as well, that there is a trick to transfer money via uk. I don't remember the details. Try to check in ynet, nrg, calcalist. Other option, maybe try to ask the post bank, if they transfer via western union. There is a fee at postal bank, but this option might not be available at all. My 2c ideas. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with PayPal - they advertise that you can withdraw > money to Israeli bank accounts for free. But the catch is - they > deposit to Israeli banks in Shekels, and they charge about 3.66% > exchange rate fee (undocumented). I got stuck with money in PayPal, > after I requested it to be sent there, and then I discovered the > exaggerated exchange rate fee. Be careful! [ > http://illuminea.com/israel/withdraw-paypal-to-israeli-bank-accounts/ > ]. And request for advice: do you know how I can transfer money to a > USA bank account (or PayPal account), and receive the money in Israel? > I don't have a USA bank account. I can't receive the money from > PayPal in US dollars - that's not an option. I want to pay minimal > fees. Do you have an idea? > > Thanks, > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
I use it often, usually works well... the only problem for people which have a lot of latency is that the nokia(or wlan) adds another ~100ms). Ohad On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > I have an E71 for over a year now and never managed to make a useful > phone call with it. > I find VoIP settings on it (and in general, VoIP terminology and > jargon) to be very confusing... > I tried also multiple soft phones to no avail... > > 2010/1/8 Ohad Levy : > > If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead. > > > > Ohad > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free > SIP > >> phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to > connect > >> to an ethernet network and work with asterisk. > >> > >> Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them. > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Geoff. > >> -- > >> geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM > >> Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com > >> New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or > >> understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the > situation. > >> i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the > Wikipedia. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
I have an E71 for over a year now and never managed to make a useful phone call with it. I find VoIP settings on it (and in general, VoIP terminology and jargon) to be very confusing... I tried also multiple soft phones to no avail... 2010/1/8 Ohad Levy : > If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead. > > Ohad > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free SIP >> phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to connect >> to an ethernet network and work with asterisk. >> >> Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Geoff. >> -- >> geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM >> Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com >> New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or >> understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. >> i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Beware of PayPal + request for advice
Hi, I have a problem with PayPal - they advertise that you can withdraw money to Israeli bank accounts for free. But the catch is - they deposit to Israeli banks in Shekels, and they charge about 3.66% exchange rate fee (undocumented). I got stuck with money in PayPal, after I requested it to be sent there, and then I discovered the exaggerated exchange rate fee. Be careful! [ http://illuminea.com/israel/withdraw-paypal-to-israeli-bank-accounts/ ]. And request for advice: do you know how I can transfer money to a USA bank account (or PayPal account), and receive the money in Israel? I don't have a USA bank account. I can't receive the money from PayPal in US dollars - that's not an option. I want to pay minimal fees. Do you have an idea? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
I think this is a great idea. That was something I wanted to do while begin W3C office manager in Israel. Unfortunately nothing of my ideas where done, because of ISOC-IL non cooperation. -- Ori Idan 2010/1/8 Amichai Rotman > Guys, > > wouldn't it be nice to have a web site that shows the state of > compatibility of each of the Israeli sites to standards and, consequently, > FOSS? > > Here is what should be on that site: > > 1) Top 5 or 10 "Unfriendly" sites right at the top of the first page - > Companies would kill NOT to be on that list > 2) Same as 1, but the opposite - the friendliest sites. > 3) A way to report sites - good an bad ones. > 4) Compatibility Progress report - so we can all know what needs to be done > to "force" the specific company to make the required changes. > 5. A contact list of all relevant departments of the commercial companies > and the companies that provide the hosting and design (say we find out a > specific web design company is resposable for the incompatibility by > choice?) > 6) Come up with a reward system, similar to the "Eichut Ha Sherut" seal. > 7) the site should be endorsed and monitored by ISOC and the W3. > 8) the site should be in Hebrew, very simple in design but with enough eye > candy to be attractive, by today's standards. > > I wish I knew how to make this happen. I don't mind helping out - gather > the information, contacting companies and such... > > .::. > > Amichai Rotman > > UIN#: 6401746 > Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] > Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] > > > > > PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > .::. > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:28, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > >> Nadav Har'El wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about "Small victories, but more >> work to be done": >> >> >> Today I got a letter from YNET that they are moving their videos to >> Flash from WMV to support Firefox and Linux users. >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm a bit curious - why do you consider changing from WMV to Flash important >> for Linux or Firefox users? >> >> Last time I checked, most Linux distributions could play neither WMV nor >> Flash movies out of the box, but software to do both is available for free. >> Software to play WMV is even available as free software (e.g., mplayer)? >> Or am I missing something? >> >> >> >> True, but... >> >> 1. Adobe has released a full spec for their flash format allowing a >> complete Free implementation. They also released the scripting engine as >> open source. >> 2. Adobe provides a proprietary flash player for Linux. >> 3. WMV (really the associated codecs, but the affect is the same ) is >> covered by numerous patents which are activly protected in the most brutal >> way, whereas the FLV format, as so much that it is patented (I don't know it >> is but I assume it is) is not, at the moment. >> >> Not a case of black and white by a long shot, but I would say flash is >> "brighter" then WMV. >> >> Gilad >> >> >> -- >> Gilad Ben-Yossef >> Chief Coffee Drinker >> >> Codefidence Ltd. >> The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) >> >> Web:http://codefidence.com >> Email: gi...@codefidence.com >> Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 >> Fax:+972-8-9316885 >> Mobile: +972-52-8260388 >> >> Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? >> A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu! >> >> >> > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
...and if you craft your dialplan correctly in asterisk, you can use the internal phone's contact list (dialing 9 for outbound dialing is lame). Highly recommended. On Friday 08 January 2010 10:38:03 Ohad Levy wrote: > If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead. > > Ohad > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson < > > geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free > > SIP phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to > > connect to an ethernet network and work with asterisk. > > > > Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Geoff. > > -- > > geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM > > Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com > > New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or > > understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the > > situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in > > the Wikipedia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
That is what I meant... .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:56, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Maybe in cooperation with ISOC-IL? > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Amichai Rotman > Date: 2010/1/8 > Subject: Re: Small victories, but more work to be done > To: Linux-IL > > > Guys, > > wouldn't it be nice to have a web site that shows the state of > compatibility of each of the Israeli sites to standards and, consequently, > FOSS? > > Here is what should be on that site: > > 1) Top 5 or 10 "Unfriendly" sites right at the top of the first page - > Companies would kill NOT to be on that list > 2) Same as 1, but the opposite - the friendliest sites. > 3) A way to report sites - good an bad ones. > 4) Compatibility Progress report - so we can all know what needs to be done > to "force" the specific company to make the required changes. > 5. A contact list of all relevant departments of the commercial companies > and the companies that provide the hosting and design (say we find out a > specific web design company is resposable for the incompatibility by > choice?) > 6) Come up with a reward system, similar to the "Eichut Ha Sherut" seal. > 7) the site should be endorsed and monitored by ISOC and the W3. > 8) the site should be in Hebrew, very simple in design but with enough eye > candy to be attractive, by today's standards. > > I wish I knew how to make this happen. I don't mind helping out - gather > the information, contacting companies and such... > > .::. > > Amichai Rotman > > UIN#: 6401746 > Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] > Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] > > > > > PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > .::. > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:28, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > >> Nadav Har'El wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about "Small victories, but more >> work to be done": >> >> >> Today I got a letter from YNET that they are moving their videos to >> Flash from WMV to support Firefox and Linux users. >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm a bit curious - why do you consider changing from WMV to Flash important >> for Linux or Firefox users? >> >> Last time I checked, most Linux distributions could play neither WMV nor >> Flash movies out of the box, but software to do both is available for free. >> Software to play WMV is even available as free software (e.g., mplayer)? >> Or am I missing something? >> >> >> >> True, but... >> >> 1. Adobe has released a full spec for their flash format allowing a >> complete Free implementation. They also released the scripting engine as >> open source. >> 2. Adobe provides a proprietary flash player for Linux. >> 3. WMV (really the associated codecs, but the affect is the same ) is >> covered by numerous patents which are activly protected in the most brutal >> way, whereas the FLV format, as so much that it is patented (I don't know it >> is but I assume it is) is not, at the moment. >> >> Not a case of black and white by a long shot, but I would say flash is >> "brighter" then WMV. >> >> Gilad >> >> >> -- >> Gilad Ben-Yossef >> Chief Coffee Drinker >> >> Codefidence Ltd. >> The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) >> >> Web:http://codefidence.com >> Email: gi...@codefidence.com >> Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 >> Fax:+972-8-9316885 >> Mobile: +972-52-8260388 >> >> Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? >> A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu! >> >> >> > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
Guys, wouldn't it be nice to have a web site that shows the state of compatibility of each of the Israeli sites to standards and, consequently, FOSS? Here is what should be on that site: 1) Top 5 or 10 "Unfriendly" sites right at the top of the first page - Companies would kill NOT to be on that list 2) Same as 1, but the opposite - the friendliest sites. 3) A way to report sites - good an bad ones. 4) Compatibility Progress report - so we can all know what needs to be done to "force" the specific company to make the required changes. 5. A contact list of all relevant departments of the commercial companies and the companies that provide the hosting and design (say we find out a specific web design company is resposable for the incompatibility by choice?) 6) Come up with a reward system, similar to the "Eichut Ha Sherut" seal. 7) the site should be endorsed and monitored by ISOC and the W3. 8) the site should be in Hebrew, very simple in design but with enough eye candy to be attractive, by today's standards. I wish I knew how to make this happen. I don't mind helping out - gather the information, contacting companies and such... .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:28, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about "Small victories, but more work > to be done": > > > Today I got a letter from YNET that they are moving their videos to > Flash from WMV to support Firefox and Linux users. > > > Hi, > > I'm a bit curious - why do you consider changing from WMV to Flash important > for Linux or Firefox users? > > Last time I checked, most Linux distributions could play neither WMV nor > Flash movies out of the box, but software to do both is available for free. > Software to play WMV is even available as free software (e.g., mplayer)? > Or am I missing something? > > > > True, but... > > 1. Adobe has released a full spec for their flash format allowing a > complete Free implementation. They also released the scripting engine as > open source. > 2. Adobe provides a proprietary flash player for Linux. > 3. WMV (really the associated codecs, but the affect is the same ) is > covered by numerous patents which are activly protected in the most brutal > way, whereas the FLV format, as so much that it is patented (I don't know it > is but I assume it is) is not, at the moment. > > Not a case of black and white by a long shot, but I would say flash is > "brighter" then WMV. > > Gilad > > > -- > Gilad Ben-Yossef > Chief Coffee Drinker > > Codefidence Ltd. > The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) > > Web:http://codefidence.com > Email: gi...@codefidence.com > Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 > Fax:+972-8-9316885 > Mobile: +972-52-8260388 > > Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? > A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu! > > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SIP provider questions.
Hi Rami! Please avoid sending HTML-only E-mails, either to Linux-IL or in general. As a result, I haven't read your message. Maybe the list administrator can block such E-mails from reaching the list at all. Regards, Shlomi Fish On Friday 08 Jan 2010 08:32:34 Rami Addady wrote: -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Why I Love Perl - http://shlom.in/joy-of-perl Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead. Ohad On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free SIP > phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to connect > to an ethernet network and work with asterisk. > > Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them. > > Thanks in advance, > > Geoff. > -- > geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM > Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com > New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or > understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. > i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. > > > > > > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Getting xy-coordinate from touch-pad?
While thinking about user interface ideas for the N900 which I'm about to buy, I thought of the idea of a "double click with motion". The idea is that you while double clicking move your finger in one of eight directions. This is actually more or less the same idea as the pie-menu, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_menu . On a canvas click-up-drag would e.g. allow zoom in and out, and click-left-drag might do panning. But since I'm still stuck with my laptop I thought that you could really do the same thing with the touch pad of as well, *if *there is some way of getting the actual x,y coordinate of the "click" (hard press) on the touchpad. So I wonder if this info is available in some driver or whether the touch pad's absolute xy-coordinate to the mouses relative xy-motion take place in the hardware? Thanks! Dov ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
