Re: [4SALE] Opteron machine
On Thursday 08 Jul 2010 07:20:01 Marc Volovic wrote: Opteron 148 2GB RAM 250GB disk ATI 2400 1,200 ILS Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com Marc, you deserve to be flogged with your own differential SCSI cable for starting a new thread by replying to an existing message instead of by sending a new message to the list. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Stop Using MSIE - http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/ God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: hebrew letters in non-unicode vfat
Thanks to everybody who responded. The solution was pretty simple: mount -o utf8=yes /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dok IMHO, the option needs to be on by default. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [4SALE] Opteron machine
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 07:20:01AM +0300, Marc Volovic wrote: Opteron 148 2GB RAM 250GB disk ATI 2400 1,200 ILS Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com Marc, You give very few details, but coming from you, I assume that all the hardware is linux-compatible. If this is so, I am interested in the machine. We live in Jerusalem, but we shall be in your neighbourhood (in Rehovot or/and Nes-Ziona) within the next two weeks. If you wish me to send the money before we meet, please indicate the modality. The simplest way would be to deposit it in your bank account, but I am open to any suggestion. Cheers, Avraham -- Please avoid sending Excel or Powerpoint attachments to this address. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [4SALE] Opteron machine
On 8 July 2010 19:29, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Marc, you deserve to be flogged with your own differential SCSI cable for starting a new thread by replying to an existing message instead of by sending a new message to the list. It appeared as a separate thread to my on gmail (and I think gmail is pretty good at picking up threads). I've also looked through the headers and can't see anything that suggests that his message is part of an existing thread. --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [4SALE] Opteron machine
On Thursday 08 Jul 2010 13:21:40 Amos Shapira wrote:
On 8 July 2010 19:29, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:
Marc, you deserve to be flogged with your own differential SCSI cable for
starting a new thread by replying to an existing message instead of by
sending
a new message to the list.
It appeared as a separate thread to my on gmail (and I think gmail is
pretty good at picking up threads).
Actually it isn't. GMail starts a new thread upon every change of the Subject
line. See:
http://shlomif.livejournal.com/46955.html
I've also looked through the headers and can't see anything that suggests
that his message is part of an existing thread.
There is:
{{{
In-reply-to: 20100708040930.ga25...@jasper.tkos.co.il
}}}
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Re: [4SALE] Opteron machine
Dear Avraham, The machine is fully Linux compatible. It is actually NOT Windows compatible (Win XP - no SATA, Win 7 - no audio). Under Linux (ubuntu and so on) works great. No need to send money before we meet. Easiest is paypal :-). Cash in hand is also fine. Will supply machine with a 1-2 VGA cable splitter (it is dual screen capable) and a spare 250GB disk, just in case. Best regards. Marc On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 07:20:01AM +0300, Marc Volovic wrote: Opteron 148 2GB RAM 250GB disk ATI 2400 1,200 ILS Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com Marc, You give very few details, but coming from you, I assume that all the hardware is linux-compatible. If this is so, I am interested in the machine. We live in Jerusalem, but we shall be in your neighbourhood (in Rehovot or/and Nes-Ziona) within the next two weeks. If you wish me to send the money before we meet, please indicate the modality. The simplest way would be to deposit it in your bank account, but I am open to any suggestion. Cheers, Avraham -- Please avoid sending Excel or Powerpoint attachments to this address. Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: GUI for WiFi connection
On 8 July 2010 08:07, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote: Nothing fancy. I need WiFi for unrestricted outside access, and wired for internal servers access. So I just let wicd connect to the default WiFi AP, and then do: # udhcpc -q -s /usr/local/bin/udhcpc.script -i eth0 With udhcpc.script being (lightly edited): #!/bin/sh if [ $1 != bound ]; then exit 0 fi ifconfig $interface $ip netmask $subnet # Access the mail server via the wired network when in example.net, since the # WiFi connection there is unstable if [ $domain = example.net ]; then for i in $router; do ip route add a.b.c.d via $i dev eth0 done fi Nice, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
automatic/passive grab vs XGrabPointer/XUngrabPointer q
hi X automatically does pointer grab when the mouse drags (i.e. press and hold the mouse button while moving it). It is possible to override the auto grab settings (i.e owner_events, etc) with a passive grab (e.g. XGrabButton) what if: 1. the user presses mouse button 1 (and holds it down) 2. the use moves the mouse 3. the application calles XUngrabPointer - will it ungrab ? or.. 3. the application calles XGrabPointer (withough XUngrabPointer first) - will it regrab ? thanks, erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: automatic/passive grab vs XGrabPointer/XUngrabPointer q
Erez D wrote: hi X automatically does pointer grab when the mouse drags (i.e. press and hold the mouse button while moving it). It is possible to override the auto grab settings (i.e owner_events, etc) with a passive grab (e.g. XGrabButton) what if: 1. the user presses mouse button 1 (and holds it down) 2. the use moves the mouse 3. the application calles XUngrabPointer - will it ungrab ? or.. 3. the application calles XGrabPointer (withough XUngrabPointer first) - will it regrab ? thanks, erez. 3.a no idea - this is not specifically explained in the man page - you'll need to check with a test program. 3.b read the man page for XGrabPointer: If the pointer is actively grabbed by some other client, it fails and returns Already‐Grabbed. If the pointer is frozen by an active grab of another client, it fails and returns GrabFrozen. note: the grab is done by some client. the question is - when you say X automatically does pointer grab - who are you talking about? the X server does NOT do that. it is more likely that the toolkit in use (or the window manager, if this is a drag on one of the windows it created, which include the title-bar/borders of all application windows) does this. so the question is - do you want to affect a dragdrop done by the same application in which your code resides? if so - it seems to be possible to do this - provider that you can send the right time-stamp (with regards to re-grabs). however, by doing this, you _might_ disrapt the working of the toolkit - so you should check that this does not happen by testing and by reading the source - and probably also by asking on the mailing list of the relevant toolkit. --guy ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Why are the serial port numbers changing?
A machine with a Gigabyte g33 motherboard and two serial expansion cards has an interesting situation in which on each boot the serial ports get different tty numbers. Why should they change on each boot, and how can I prevent that? The machine is currently running Ubuntu 10.04. I had run various Ubuntus and Debians without issue in the past. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Why are the serial port numbers changing?
IIRC correctly, it's due to the new features in Ubuntu (and Fedora): Each time you boot the machine, it re-maps everything, although most of the maps remains the same. You can, after the machine has finished booting, scan the tty for the new serial ports and use them whatever you like, since the /dev tree is being re-created every boot. Hetz 2010/7/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com A machine with a Gigabyte g33 motherboard and two serial expansion cards has an interesting situation in which on each boot the serial ports get different tty numbers. Why should they change on each boot, and how can I prevent that? The machine is currently running Ubuntu 10.04. I had run various Ubuntus and Debians without issue in the past. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Why are the serial port numbers changing?
On 8 July 2010 20:45, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC correctly, it's due to the new features in Ubuntu (and Fedora): Each time you boot the machine, it re-maps everything, although most of the maps remains the same. You can, after the machine has finished booting, scan the tty for the new serial ports and use them whatever you like, since the /dev tree is being re-created every boot. Hetz Thanks. I have some scripts that depend on the device being found at a particular tty. How can I disable scanning so that I won't have to change the scripts? Or, how can I tell what device is on which tty in my scripts? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 03:16:38PM +0300, Raz wrote: Hey linux il and others In http://sos-linux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sos-linux/LinuxHebrew/ you'll find a small book for linux beginners in pdf format and doc format. anyone willing to send his reviews and remarks please send it to me to this email. please edit it in word and use track changes. access: Simply download file one at a time through the web interface. In case you wish to add an entire section, you'll be acknowledged. Looks nice. thank you A few points: 1. What's the point in keeping all of those files under version control? Why not just use some FTP directory? This is the only public domain I have. 2. The book seems to use screenshots extensively. I can't copy text from a screenshot. Please try to use actual text rather than a screenshot if the window in case is a terminal. This will also greatly reduce the size of the file (well, not really, as you keep all the history in the file). good point. I will use OCR. 3. You write about ls: ls מקבלת תווים מיוחדים שתפקידם לייצג תבנית חיפוש , סימן הכוכב* מייצג מספר כלשהו של תווים I hope you explain later on that this is not ls that interperts those wildcards. Does it matter so much ? 4. rar is in the same class as tar (archiver) not as gzip (simpple file/stream compressor). Nobody really uses rar, and there's really no use mentioning it (you have not mentioned rar-nonfree and where exactly rar 3.x archives are supported. Let's just avoid the topic altogether). Maybe consider mentioning zip / unzip. i have mentioned zip and unzip one sentence before rar. One other question: does Docbook work well for Hebrew? Anybody tried it? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il wrote: Thank you very much for converting it to an open format. I have read the first part and find it written very easy to read, I liked it and will continue to read the rest. However in the first paragraph you said that someone coming from Windows will have the filling of going back in time, I don't understand why? Any time I see a Windows machine, I have a filling of going back in time, the graphical user interface of all popular distributions today is much more advanced then Windows so I do not understand why this is going back in time? fixed. As for CLI, I think it should be rephrased (I will think how later) to show that this is a very advanced interface and people should not be afraid of it. I am still waiting... -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: anyone interested odt format are uploaded to site. odt ,pdf and doc. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: And I totally forgot. It's kind of funny, but in the last OS course of the Open University (which is of course taught using Linux), the student were forced to use .doc format for their theoretical answers! On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: In fact I'm having difficulties to find reviewers for my .odt files! I'm not aware of any public service provider nor university in Israel which accepts open document format in principle. But I'll be glad to be proven wrong. (It might be that a specific grader at your university accepts documents at .odt format, but in general the university does not support this format, as opposed to .doc format which is officially supported). But OpenOffice is capable of saving documents in the propriety .doc format, which is the de facto standard in Israel. And you can have your work reviewed that way. Another option is to print it to PDF, but it's rather clumsy, because the reviewer cannot edit directly your document. 2010/7/5 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il So you decided to write in docx format and you expect people to review your work? I did not even looked at it because of the format. If you write it in OpenOffice even if it does not look the best, people may help you. The issue of how it looks can be fixed later. You may even work with simple text file to begin and later on transfer it to a good word processor to do the formatting. -- Ori Idan On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nadav When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i simply spent too much time trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on. also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see track changes. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010, Raz wrote about Re: linux beivrit: Open office would have been a much better choice (or lyx, or latex or a few others) I tried open format. does not look good at all. Hi, A lot of things can be said against Open Office (although I personally disagree with most of them), but I don't see how you can say its output (I assume you don't mean its UI) doesn't look good. What didn't you like? The fonts? The default style or layout? Or what? In my experience, you can create beautiful documents in Open Office, and it's not harder to do so than with with Microsoft Office, so I wonder whater problems you are referring to. Anyway, it's probably too late now for this document (converting formats is a harder issue), but it's something to think about for your next document :-) -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Jul 5 2010, 23 Tammuz 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Boat: A hole in the water surrounded by http://nadav.harel.org.il |wood into which one pours money. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Herouth Maoz hero...@spamcop.net wrote: Quoting Raz razi...@gmail.com: Hey Nadav When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i simply spent too much time trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on. also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see track changes. As a matter of fact, there is a track changes feature: Edit-changes-record. thank you hez. I will use it. Herouth ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2010 16:31, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Nadav When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i simply spent too much time trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on. also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see track changes. If you let us know specifically what problem you had, such that we can reproduce it, one of us (likely me) will file bugs and see that it gets fixed. I use Open Office in Hebrew fairly regularly and don't have the problems that you mention, but I might just be used to it's quirks. Write down step by step instructions about what you tried and what happened, and I'll test. Thanks. 1. prompt does not indicate hebrew or english 2. english and hebrew subtitles indent badly will let you know more as I moved to ooffice 3.0 -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linux beivrit
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:44:52PM +0300, Raz wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 03:16:38PM +0300, Raz wrote: Hey linux il and others In http://sos-linux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sos-linux/LinuxHebrew/ you'll find a small book for linux beginners in pdf format and doc format. anyone willing to send his reviews and remarks please send it to me to this email. please edit it in word and use track changes. access: Simply download file one at a time through the web interface. In case you wish to add an entire section, you'll be acknowledged. Looks nice. thank you A few points: 1. What's the point in keeping all of those files under version control? Why not just use some FTP directory? This is the only public domain I have. 2. The book seems to use screenshots extensively. I can't copy text from a screenshot. Please try to use actual text rather than a screenshot if the window in case is a terminal. This will also greatly reduce the size of the file (well, not really, as you keep all the history in the file). good point. I will use OCR. Hmm copy/paste? 3. You write about ls: ls מקבלת תווים מיוחדים שתפקידם לייצג תבנית חיפוש , סימן הכוכב* מייצג מספר כלשהו של תווים I hope you explain later on that this is not ls that interperts those wildcards. Does it matter so much ? Hmm... if you don't understand the difference - it does matter. The shell expantion is not that of simple wildcard. It is also of variables, command substitution, and more. For instance: cp *.a *.b is pointless (unless you happen to only have a single *.a, and in which case it will be bopied to the literal '*.b'. This is because 'cp' does not care about wildcard expansion. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Why are the serial port numbers changing?
Hi Dotan,
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:30:16PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 8 July 2010 20:45, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC correctly, it's due to the new features in Ubuntu (and Fedora): Each
time you boot the machine, it re-maps everything, although most of the maps
remains the same.
You can, after the machine has finished booting, scan the tty for the new
serial ports and use them whatever you like, since the /dev tree is being
re-created every boot.
Hetz
Thanks. I have some scripts that depend on the device being found at a
particular tty. How can I disable scanning so that I won't have to
change the scripts? Or, how can I tell what device is on which tty in
my scripts?
The right solution IMO is to use udev rules that instruct udev to create those
tty devices at a persistent location. To get the full information you need to
write these rules do something like the following for each tty device:
# udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/ttyXXX)
Then, use the info you get to write the rules according to
http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html. (Note that udevinfo that's
mention in this document is now 'udevadm info'). Put the udev rules in a file
(say, '70-persistent-tty.rules') under /etc/udev/rules.d/, and you're done.
baruch
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