Re: Should beginners work with WSL?
That's a cool trick, thanks for the idea! On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:23 AM אורי wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm using git bash - by installing Git for Windows, I get a bash shell with > most of the commands I need from Linux, and I can run it also when not > related to git. For example diff, awk, etc. > > Also if for some reason I need a real Linux machine, I can SSH to one of my > Ubuntu servers, and run my command remotely from there. > > I never had a need to run a Linux app that is not a shell command on my > desktop. > > > אורי > u...@speedy.net > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 11:44 AM Steve Litt wrote: >> >> אורי said on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 0 >> >> >Personally I never used WSL, and I have been using Linux servers and >> >Windows desktops for more than 20 years. >> >> Being a huge POSIX fan, I'm sure I'd use it if I had Windows machines. >> >> Sorry how my left to right settings garbled the reference to אורי . I >> tried to fix it and only made it worse. >> >> SteveT >> >> Steve Litt >> Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful >> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Should beginners work with WSL?
Hi, I'm using git bash - by installing Git for Windows, I get a bash shell with most of the commands I need from Linux, and I can run it also when not related to git. For example diff, awk, etc. Also if for some reason I need a real Linux machine, I can SSH to one of my Ubuntu servers, and run my command remotely from there. I never had a need to run a Linux app that is not a shell command on my desktop. אורי u...@speedy.net On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 11:44 AM Steve Litt wrote: > אורי said on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 0 > > >Personally I never used WSL, and I have been using Linux servers and > >Windows desktops for more than 20 years. > > Being a huge POSIX fan, I'm sure I'd use it if I had Windows machines. > > Sorry how my left to right settings garbled the reference to אורי . I > tried to fix it and only made it worse. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful > Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
Michael Tewner said on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:31:26 +0200 >After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug* Windows Subsystem for Linux. I'm at an even bigger disadvantage because when I hear "WSL", I think of my dad, Walter Scott Litt. :-) SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/ Meir Guttman Cell. +972-54-526 2264 On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:32 PM Michael Tewner wrote: > After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug* > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Shachar Shemesh > wrote: > >> >> On 06/02/2022 14:03, Mark E. Fuller wrote: >> >> I'm new here, but I find LMGTFY and similar responses (like RTFM) to be >> generally unwelcome and inappropriate. Whether or not they are part of the >> culture of a listserv or forum, I do not respond in that manner for the >> simple reason that if I have time to respond, then I have time to respond >> constructively. >> >> Let me just go on record to say I agree. My email referred to my original >> question, not to Aviram's answer. >> >> >> Shachar >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about "The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run a GNU/Linux environment -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a traditional virtual machine or dualboot setup." On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 8:33 PM אורי wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:32 PM Michael Tewner wrote: > >> After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug* >> > > Just something like the KGB or DDT. > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:32 PM Michael Tewner wrote: > After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug* > Just something like the KGB or DDT. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug* On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > On 06/02/2022 14:03, Mark E. Fuller wrote: > > I'm new here, but I find LMGTFY and similar responses (like RTFM) to be > generally unwelcome and inappropriate. Whether or not they are part of the > culture of a listserv or forum, I do not respond in that manner for the > simple reason that if I have time to respond, then I have time to respond > constructively. > > Let me just go on record to say I agree. My email referred to my original > question, not to Aviram's answer. > > > Shachar > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
On 06/02/2022 14:03, Mark E. Fuller wrote: I'm new here, but I find LMGTFY and similar responses (like RTFM) to be generally unwelcome and inappropriate. Whether or not they are part of the culture of a listserv or forum, I do not respond in that manner for the simple reason that if I have time to respond, then I have time to respond constructively. Let me just go on record to say I agree. My email referred to my original question, not to Aviram's answer. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
I'm new here, but I find LMGTFY and similar responses (like RTFM) to be generally unwelcome and inappropriate. Whether or not they are part of the culture of a listserv or forum, I do not respond in that manner for the simple reason that if I have time to respond, then I have time to respond constructively. On 06/02/2022 13:45, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 06/02/2022 11:41, Steve Litt wrote: Aviram Jenik said on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:15:58 -0800 LMGTFY: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=wsl+linux - Aviram I'm sorry, but questioning "what is WSL" doesn't justify an LMGTFY. I know the focus of your criticism wasn't aimed at me, but I do take it to heart. I posted WSL without explaining what it was. I'm not sure whether I assumed people would know what it was, or whether anyone who didn't know what it was would also not know how to answer my question. Either way, yeah, I guess I should have spelled it out. In my defense, WSL _is_ how the feature is usually referred to. It's even the command line that installs it. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 Nesher 3681219, Israel +972 (0)53-872-6579 +49 (0)1577 1848188 +1 401-214-4266 mark.e.ful...@gmail.com mark.e.ful...@gmx.de ful...@stossrohr.net @fuller:one.ems.host https://www.stossrohr.net PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
On 06/02/2022 11:41, Steve Litt wrote: Aviram Jenik said on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:15:58 -0800 LMGTFY: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=wsl+linux - Aviram I'm sorry, but questioning "what is WSL" doesn't justify an LMGTFY. I know the focus of your criticism wasn't aimed at me, but I do take it to heart. I posted WSL without explaining what it was. I'm not sure whether I assumed people would know what it was, or whether anyone who didn't know what it was would also not know how to answer my question. Either way, yeah, I guess I should have spelled it out. In my defense, WSL _is_ how the feature is usually referred to. It's even the command line that installs it. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Should beginners work with WSL?
אורי said on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 0 >Personally I never used WSL, and I have been using Linux servers and >Windows desktops for more than 20 years. Being a huge POSIX fan, I'm sure I'd use it if I had Windows machines. Sorry how my left to right settings garbled the reference to אורי . I tried to fix it and only made it worse. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?
Aviram Jenik said on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:15:58 -0800 >LMGTFY: >https://lmgtfy.app/?q=wsl+linux > >- Aviram I'm sorry, but questioning "what is WSL" doesn't justify an LMGTFY. The original post said nothing about Windows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_information_technology_initialisms didn't list "WSL". Neither did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computing_and_IT_abbreviations#W . Neither did https://techterms.com/category/acronyms . The LMGTFY you created still took about 2 minutes research to find. Let me tell you how I handle acronyms, because I'm not a WAD (Walking Acronym Dispenser). See how I did that? If there's a reasonable chance that some readers won't know an acronym, the first time I use it I spell it out and put the acronym in parenthesis, or use the acronym and put the phrase in parenthesis. That's no hardship on me, and that way, my readers don't need to take two minutes to look up an easy acronym, or ten minutes on this one. And don't get me started about acronyms meaning five different things, and having to research for the closest fit. Glib use of acronyms doesn't indicate intelligence, and refusal to research obscure ones before asking the user of the acronym doesn't indicate stupidity or laziness. SIOOT. Spell It Out One Time. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
