Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thank you Shachar and Eli, these suggestions are very helpful.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 1:24 PM Eli Billauer  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A somewhat different approach is to copy the entire filesystem into a
> new computer, and run the old operating system in parallel with the new
> one.
>
> I'm doing this myself, and this approach works surprisingly well:
>
> https://billauer.co.il/blog/2018/11/linux-chroot-system-in-parallel/
>
> And when I say that it works, I mean that some of the system's services
> still belong to the old OS. For example, the DHCP server on the machine
> that I write this mail on belongs to Fedora 12. Why? Because I never had
> a good reason to replace it with the current system's.
>
> The obvious advantage is that the transition to the new computer can be
> gradual. At some point, you'll just turn off the old computer because
> everything runs fine on the new one.
>
> So all you need is tar.
>
> The drawback that I can see with a full image of the old system (except
> for the obvious waste of disk space) is that the old kernel may not be
> compatible with the virtual machine. Which can be solved by installing a
> newer kernel. But then, why bother running a full virtual machine? You
> might as well use chroot. Which brings me back to my original suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Eli
>
> On 04/11/2023 9:34, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
> > old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
> > risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run
> > it in a virtual machine.
> >
> > How do we do this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
>
>
>
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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-04 Thread Eli Billauer

Hello,

A somewhat different approach is to copy the entire filesystem into a 
new computer, and run the old operating system in parallel with the new one.


I'm doing this myself, and this approach works surprisingly well:

https://billauer.co.il/blog/2018/11/linux-chroot-system-in-parallel/

And when I say that it works, I mean that some of the system's services 
still belong to the old OS. For example, the DHCP server on the machine 
that I write this mail on belongs to Fedora 12. Why? Because I never had 
a good reason to replace it with the current system's.


The obvious advantage is that the transition to the new computer can be 
gradual. At some point, you'll just turn off the old computer because 
everything runs fine on the new one.


So all you need is tar.

The drawback that I can see with a full image of the old system (except 
for the obvious waste of disk space) is that the old kernel may not be 
compatible with the virtual machine. Which can be solved by installing a 
newer kernel. But then, why bother running a full virtual machine? You 
might as well use chroot. Which brings me back to my original suggestion.


Regards,
   Eli

On 04/11/2023 9:34, Michael Shiloh wrote:

Hello all,

Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on 
old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this 
risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run 
it in a virtual machine.


How do we do this?

Thanks,
Michael




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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh


  
  
1. Write down the partitioning info (which directories are
  mounted under which partition)
2. mount each partition that holds data (i.e. - not sysfs and
  proc) separately, and tar it. Make sure to grab partitions that
  have other partitions cover them (/dev)

3. Partition new drive in similar separation (not necessary)
4. Extract your tars there.
5. Adjust /etc/fstab as necessary (it may contain UUIDs, that
  have now changed)
6. Use bootable media to boot, mount this somewhere, chroot in,
  make sure you have sys, proc and sufficient of /dev (you can bind
  mount the host's dev)
7. Reinstall GRUB
8. Regenerate the initramfs (should be a script to do that)



That's it. It should boot just fine.


Shachar



On 04/11/2023 9:34, Michael Shiloh
  wrote:


  
  Hello all,


Situation: We have a linux computer with various software
  installed on old hardware that may malfunction and be
  unsupported. To mitigate this risk, we would like to make an
  image of this machine so that we can run it in a virtual
  machine.


How do we do this?


Thanks,
Michael
  
  
  
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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-04 Thread Omer Zak
Hello Michael,

1. run 'dd' on the old computer's disk and transfer the output to a
disk image file in a modern computer. How to do it depends upon ability
to connect external hardware (such as a network card, a disk with
modern interface, or a DiskOnKey).

2. Write down old computer's BIOS settings having to do with hardware
configuration.

3. Write down which peripherals your old computer has and their
configuration (such as interrupt number and I/O address).

4. Check your virtual machine hypervisor's configuration options to see
how to configure your virtual machine to emulate the exact same
hardware. Consult your records of BIOS settings and peripherals.

5. In your new computer, loop-mount the disk image file and configure
the virtual machine to access it. See, for example:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/316401/how-to-mount-a-disk-image-from-the-command-line

Remember that old Linux versions (1.*, 2.*) are not as smart in auto-
discovery of hardware configurations as more recent ones.

More precise instructions depend upon the exact hardware and Linux
version you have.

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> Hello all,
> 
> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed
> on old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate
> this risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we
> can run it in a virtual machine.
> 
> How do we do this?
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How to image a linux computer

2023-11-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hello all,

Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on old
hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this risk, we
would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it in a
virtual machine.

How do we do this?

Thanks,
Michael
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