Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS
El mié, 18 may 2022 a las 20:25, Anton Amirian () escribió: > > This is a literal quote from RMS > >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The > >arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't > >voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea > >that their little baby is maturing > Hi, You can read RMS words https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong) Best, Julian > If you want to believe that it's all a slander invented by some mean people > who don't like poor RMS then sure whatever makes you sleep better at night > I don't really care > > Was just shocked that what people have problem with is his stance on the > palestinian/israeli conflict and not this > > real gamer moment, good job > > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:12 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> > From: Anton Amirian >> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:56:25 +0300 >> > Cc: Omer Zak , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> > >> > Honestly I'm kinda shocked that some people are more mad at him for not >> > liking israeli treatment of >> > palestinians than the whole pedophilia thing >> >> There's no pedophilia thing. There's a hostile campaign initiated by >> people with an agenda and unclean conscience, and propagated by people >> who cannot be bothered to read the original emails and posts and make >> up their own minds. > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS
El mié, 18 may 2022 a las 17:35, Omer Zak () escribió: > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances > so that Palestinians won't have to pay for his non-boycotting trip to > Israel and Palestine? Hi, The fact that RMS gave presentations at Israel universities in the past and that he is returning to do so is an evidence that he is not involved in a boycott against Israel despite constraints from one specific trip. Best, Julian > > On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 17:43 +0300, Julian Daich wrote: > > Hi, > > > > RMS is coming to Tel Aviv. I am receving him. He is looking for a > > place to give a prentation in a mayor university on Msy 31 st or > > June 1st. Is there here somebody from TAU or HUJI that can help to > > organize it? He will no chsrge for his talk. > > > > Please, contact me in private. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > -- > Any legal limit to self defense means that there is no right for self > defense at all. This is because the aggressors would exploit those > legal limits to render their victims totally defenseless. > My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which > I may be affiliated in any way. > WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Venue for RMS
Hi, RMS is coming to Tel Aviv. I am receving him. He is looking for a place to give a prentation in a mayor university on Msy 31 st or June 1st. Is there here somebody from TAU or HUJI that can help to organize it? He will no chsrge for his talk. Please, contact me in private. Thanks, Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Hebrew fonts in Supertux/ Ubuntu
Hi, Somebody knows how to have Supertux working with Hebrew fonts in Ubuntu? Best, Julian -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Presentation on computer reusing and FLOSS
Hi, Next Wednesday 19 at 20 I will give a presentation about old hardware reusing, FLOSS and planned obsolescence oriented to non technical skilled people. Hamekarer- Art Studio and Gallery. Hahesmonaim 90 Tel Aviv Everyone is welcome to attend. The entrance is free. Under the present conditions limited to 20 attendees. Best, -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Spare SSD or IDE cable - Tel Aviv area
El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 9:37, Marc Volovic () escribió: > > Mazkeret Batya is not far from Tel Aviv (i.e. 20minute drive, near Bilu > Junction). Hi Marc, I live with elderly people at home and cannot use other transportation than walking or bike. That is the equation. Best, Julian > Your call. > —mav > Marc Volovic > marcvolo...@me.com > > > > On 15 Apr 2020, at 10:36, Julian Daich wrote: > > El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 9:29, Marc Volovic > () escribió: > > > I can give you an old laptop drive or can LEND you a 250GB SSD. > > > Hi Marc, > > The old laptop drive may help, however I cannot move away from Tel > Aviv due to family concerns. > > Thank yo ant way! > > > Thanks! > > Julian > > Am located in Mazkeret Batya. > > —mav > Marc Volovic > marcvolo...@me.com > > > > On 15 Apr 2020, at 10:26, Julian Daich wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to an IDE cable or and old low capability( 40GB) SSD disk to > fix my main box. I am at Tel Aviv and spare parts are not easy to find > in these days. > Do somebody has any of them to give away? One of either will fix the problem. > > Thanks! > > -- > Julian > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > -- > Julian > > -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Spare SSD or IDE cable - Tel Aviv area
El mié., 15 abr. 2020 a las 9:29, Marc Volovic () escribió: > > I can give you an old laptop drive or can LEND you a 250GB SSD. Hi Marc, The old laptop drive may help, however I cannot move away from Tel Aviv due to family concerns. Thank yo ant way! Thanks! Julian > Am located in Mazkeret Batya. > > —mav > Marc Volovic > marcvolo...@me.com > > > > On 15 Apr 2020, at 10:26, Julian Daich wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to an IDE cable or and old low capability( 40GB) SSD disk to > fix my main box. I am at Tel Aviv and spare parts are not easy to find > in these days. > Do somebody has any of them to give away? One of either will fix the problem. > > Thanks! > > -- > Julian > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Spare SSD or IDE cable - Tel Aviv area
Hi, I need to an IDE cable or and old low capability( 40GB) SSD disk to fix my main box. I am at Tel Aviv and spare parts are not easy to find in these days. Do somebody has any of them to give away? One of either will fix the problem. Thanks! -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Looking for a lawyer
2017-12-08 8:51 GMT+01:00 Lior Kaplan <kaplanl...@gmail.com>: > http://www.shibolet.com/attorneys/ido-shomrony/ > > https://www.jonathanklinger.com/ > Hi Lior, Thanks, will try these two. > https://www.pearlcohen.com/professionals/haim_ravia/ > I once tried this office referred by a friend at their office at Hertzeliah and Boston without a clear outcome. Best, Julian > All three of them know the GPL well. About US - you'll have to ask them. > First two have Offices in Tel Aviv. > > Kaplan > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:02 AM, Julian Daich <julia...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am looking for a lawyer Who understands GPL, licencing and trademarks >> for the US. Preferably from the Tel Aviv área. >> >> Best, >> >> Julian >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Looking for a lawyer
Hi, I am looking for a lawyer Who understands GPL, licencing and trademarks for the US. Preferably from the Tel Aviv área. Best, Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Google: Create A Native Linux Google Drive Application -
Please sign for this campaign: http://www.change.org/es/peticiones/google-create-a-native-linux-google-drive-application?share_id=ADrOjDOjXrutm_campaign=mailto_linkutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SFD in Day of Atonement
El jue, 02-09-2010 a las 07:03 +, Tzafrir Cohen escribió: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 08:10:15AM +0200, Julian Daich wrote: Hi, Software Freedom Day (SFD)[ 1] is a worldwide celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). The goal in this celebration is to educate the worldwide public about the benefits of using high quality FOSS in education, in government, at home, and in business -- in short, everywhere! The non-profit organization Software Freedom International[ 2] coordinates SFD at a global level, providing support, giveaways and a point of collaboration, but volunteer teams around the world organize the local SFD events to impact their own communities. This year the FSD was selected to be on 18th of September which is alsothe Day of Atonement at the jewish calendar I'm highly involved in the FSD event at Madrid. It does not only mean that people highly involved at the event will unable to participate, but also that it will not be Israeli FSD in that date. I don't know how the desition was made. I wrote then about moving it on to a later date( September 30th) and I waiting for an answer. It colud be of great support if other people contact them also. http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D_%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%A9_%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%94 OK. Thanks. We decided to move the Madrid event to September 25 th. -- Julian Daich julia...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
SFD in Day of Atonement
Hi, Software Freedom Day (SFD)[ 1] is a worldwide celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). The goal in this celebration is to educate the worldwide public about the benefits of using high quality FOSS in education, in government, at home, and in business -- in short, everywhere! The non-profit organization Software Freedom International[ 2] coordinates SFD at a global level, providing support, giveaways and a point of collaboration, but volunteer teams around the world organize the local SFD events to impact their own communities. This year the FSD was selected to be on 18th of September which is alsothe Day of Atonement at the jewish calendar I'm highly involved in the FSD event at Madrid. It does not only mean that people highly involved at the event will unable to participate, but also that it will not be Israeli FSD in that date. I don't know how the desition was made. I wrote then about moving it on to a later date( September 30th) and I waiting for an answer. It colud be of great support if other people contact them also. Best Regards, Julian Links [ 1]http://softwarefreedomday.org/ [ 2]http://softwarefreedomday.org/content/who-sfi -- Julian Daich julia...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[ OT- Job Offer] Somebody from Tiberias for basic support
Hi, After three years of being a happy Linux user, my mom had to replace her computer for a new one. The problem is that she lives near Tiberias and I Live abroad and she does not know any technitian that knows about Linux. She will recieve on Sunday a Windows PC without access to all her files. She misses and likes her Linux desktop for its simplicity and stability. The task is easy to do. To put the old HD in the new PC, update Xubuntu 8.04 to 10.04 and maybe restoring her XP partition without side effects. Please, contact me for your disponibility and prices. Best regards, Julian -- Julian Daich julia...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
ESP Software Patents News » Blog Archive » Israel: one month to end software patents
Hi all, I received the following link inside a FSF bulletin. http://news.swpat.org/2010/01/israel-consultation-deadline-february/ Best regards, Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Why it is not possible to stream 106fm with a player different from Amarok or Rythminbox
Hi All, I live abroad and often use to listen 106fm from the following link http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?format=wmak=42191714ClipMediaID=20853 The issue is that prefer to play the stream from a media player rather than from the page 106fm.co.il and the only players that seems to work are Amarok and Rythmbox. I have lighweight desktops envirments in my laptops and don´t want to use the media players from above. I tryed with Exaile, Audacious and Xfmedia but any of these players cannot play the mentioned stream. Somebody knows the reason why? Julian -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Debian Lenny release party
Hi, 2009/2/15 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote: Hello folks, As some of you know, Debian Lenny was released this weekend, and we are going to meet for a little celebration at around 8.30-9pm in a cafe/bar called Lenny's in tel aviv (http://www.telavivcity.com/eng/BDisplay.asp?BusinessCode=1495) and you are all, of course, invited :) Feel free to contact me for any question/suggestions. shay How is the smoking situation there? Is it possible to sit and talk without suffocating? It is a relativelly quiet place at Florentin. The atmosphere it is not sophocant at all :), but AFAIK smoking is forbiden. Julian Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Debian Lenny release party
2009/2/15 Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org: Quoting Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar, from the post of Sun, 15 Feb: and we are going to meet for a little celebration at around 8.30-9pm in a cafe/bar called Lenny's in tel aviv Well, this is a very short notice. I didn't see any announcement about it until today which is the day of that event. right, we are quite spontaneous:) then how about Thursday? I'll celebrate after my server finishes the upgrade and reboots without a glitch. deal? :-) uma:~# uptime 22:12:33 up 521 days, 8:21, 3 users, load average: 1.99, 1.78, 1.99 yup, time to start the upgrade, I'll go tak to my partner :-) We are at the third beer and the wifi is up. Unfortunatelly there are not free beer:( We still does not undertand what about R.S. talk about with free beer -- Your hetero life mate Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Julian ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [ OT] Nostalgia is not what it used to be
On Thursday 04 October 2007 06:24:22 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Actually it was not the case for all of those little boxes. Is the reason why I then decided to have a ZX Spectrum :) Exqueeze me? Are you saying you could program the graphic characters without doing any direct memory manipulations? That's not what I remember. Yes, you was able to plot, draw and change any ASCII character straighfoward from BASIC. However, animations were limited to single NOR or OR pixels or whole characters made of 8x 8 pixels. If you wanted more elavorated animation( and they were), you needed to load your own machine code script. Management of memory screen was very tricky. Strips of 8 pixels were allocated according TV scanning and colors( atributes) were limited 8x 8 pixels cells or the size of an ASCII character. You often had to decide how to manage when two figures with different atributes were at the same cell or collided during animations. -- Julián [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ OT] Nostalgia is not what it used to be (was: Petition to ask MainConcept)
On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:41:15 Amos Shapira wrote: My personal first *owned* was a ZX Spectrum 48k (and not long ago I threw away the book of the source code of its ROM). --Amos I just installed Spectmu on my laptop. http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mszeredi/spectemu/spectemu.html Now, I'm looking for tape files... -- Julián [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[ OT] Nostalgia is not what it used to be (was: Petition to ask MainConcept)
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 09:52:34 Michael Tewner wrote: I remember when the C128 came out with Sprites - efficient basic animations. Ah... Those were the days. Sprtites( 2D hardware acceleration) were also included in the C64 and its 1980's predecessor Vic20. However there were no BASIC native commands to operate them. You needed to poke to use them. -- Julián [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ OT] Nostalgia is not what it used to be (was: Petition to ask MainConcept)
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:27:32 Amos Shapira wrote: You needed poke and pick(sp?) to do ANYTHING on those boxes, as far as I remember ( a good intro to computer hardware, as you learned about CPU port numbers in no time :). Actually it was not the case for all of those little boxes. Is the reason why I then decided to have a ZX Spectrum :) -- Julián [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems connecting to wireless networks. Need some assistance.
Hi all, I got an Inellinet wireless PCMCIA card[ 1] for my Compaq Armada M300 running Kubuntu 7.04. While trying to connect to several public networks using either wlassistant or Knetworkmanager, the networks are well recognized but I cannot log in. The connection is always refused. I came across forums and wikis, found myself a little bit lost with this and at the present, I cannot determinate if the problem is related to a) drivers, b) system or c) network configuration. I performed many tests that are too long to be included in this message, but any of them are conclusive. I need some help about how to proceed. I´m pasting two outputs that I got at a friend´d network. $ iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. ra0 RT61 Wireless ESSID:makhtesh Nickname: Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:CB:FB:83:4A Bit Rate=24 Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Link Quality=66/100 Signal level:-69 dBm Noise level:-103 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 $ ifconfig ra0 ra0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:2E:A3:71:49 inet6 addr: fe80::20e:2eff:fea3:7149/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6955 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:328 errors:3 dropped:3 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:45 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:847253 (827.3 KiB) TX bytes:14720 (14.3 KiB) Interrupt:11 Links: [ 1]http://www.intellinet-network.com/html/505314.htm Thanks, Julian -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ^T under ubuntu w hebrew keyboard
El lun, 14-05-2007 a las 11:08 +0300, Erez D escribió: hi i have an anoying problem with ubuntu when choosing hebrew keyboard layout: I had a similar problem with Kubuntu, but not with Ubuntu. AFAIK the problem is with KDE and not only with the *ubuntu distros. all the control keys (e.g. ctrl-T for new tab in FF) doesnt work ... it is probably mapped to CTRL-ALEPH instead, which is no use to me anyway Check your keyboard properties at the Gnome panel. is there a ubuntu build in solution ? if not, anyone has a modmap file ? or any othe solution ? If you are using KDE, follow this thread[ 1]or search at the archive also at[ 1]. Links: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg47621.html Julian erez. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphic card
El mar, 08-05-2007 a las 15:58 +0300, Meir Kriheli escribió: Yehoshua (shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote: That's why I am asking: is there any *other* card that is compatible with Linux, has open source drivers and is able to do 3d acceleration with those drivers? TIA, shay Intel has open drivers (starting with Xorg 7.2 IIRC), but they are usually laptop/on-board cards. And here you have some information about the Intel cards. It is for Ubuntu. I don´t think that for Debian the situation is different. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsIntel?highlight=%28graphic%29%7C%28cards%29 Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Symbol Spectrum 24 PCMCIA wireless card
Hi all, I´m already four days trying to make work a Symbol Spectrum 24 wifi card in my Compaq M300 laptop running Kubuntu 7.04. I need some help with it. The card is recognized. At the console I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pccardctl ident Socket 0: product info: Symbol, Spectrum24 WLAN Adapter, SLA V4.65/1.00/10229550-00022201-FW: EU , TSW:none manfid: 0x014d, 0x0801 function: 6 (network) but at KInfoCentr the PCMCIA port is empty. After many searches and tryings, I found at[ 1]( where my card is the LA 3021-101 at the upper row) the driver is the Wavelan driver. However I´m getting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe wavelan FATAL: Error inserting wavelan (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wavelan.ko): Input/output error I tried also with $ sudo modprobe wavelan_cs $ lsmod | grep wavelan wavelan_cs 30344 0 pcmcia 38972 1 wavelan_cs pcmcia_core 42128 4 wavelan_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic But I´m still getting $ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. I tried the card in other laptop running XP and it works. I also noted at the comments column at[ 1]¨ 100mW; works with Orinoco driver¨. What does 100nW mean? Somebody has a clue? Regards, Julian Links: [ 1]http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Symbol -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Symbol Spectrum 24 PCMCIA wireless card
El lun, 23-04-2007 a las 23:14 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson escribió: On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 10:41:32PM +0300, Julian Daich wrote: I tried the card in other laptop running XP and it works. I also noted at the comments column at[ 1]¨ 100mW; works with Orinoco driver¨. What does 100nW mean? Is it 100mw or 100nw? It probably is 100mw which is the maximum power allowed in Israel. That's 100 mili-watts, or one tenth of a watt. 100mW. But does it mean something regarding the Wavelan driver? Which symbol card do you have? Is it PCMCIA or one of the compact flash socket ones? Is it 1mb, 2mb or 11mb? Symbol Spectrum 24 PCMCIA, 2mb Symbol made many different cards with different speeds and functions. Just because something works with Windows XP does not mean that it will work with Linux. Did you try it with XP on the same laptop? It is supposed to work according to the link that I posted in my previous mail. If you are in Jerusalem, you are welcome to come to my home and try a real wavelan card in your laptop. I will be tomorrow morning- afternoon at Baaka. Julian -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New dumb question: how to USB
El mié, 18-04-2007 a las 14:08 +0300, Dan Bar Dov escribió: I'm on Fedora core 5. I have a simple user question, please assume kernel and the os are all set up fine, I simly need to know how to. I inserted a USB flash drive to the USB slot. man -k usb told me about lsusb, and the device is recognized. How do I access it (mount it)? [I don't think hotplugging is set up, but I want to do it manually, so please, don't teach me how to set up hotplugging]. Unless you are working without an elaborated GUI, an icon of your USB drive is supposed to appear at your desktop immediately after hotplugging in. Are your system updated? At least until Fedora 4 USB drives should be automatically mounted at /media/usbdisk or /mnt/sdaX where X=1,2,3, etc. You can try to mount it manually with # mount -t vfat /dev/sdaX /media/usbdisk where X=1,2,3, etc. Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Business Cards Print
Hi, El mar, 17-04-2007 a las 23:33 +0300, Shlomi Fish escribió: I'd like to print some Business Cards for myself. They will be in English exclusively, and will contain my name, my occupation (Software Developer, Essayist and Writer), and my contact details along with my EvilPHish icon. You can try Fotographyx. They took 140 nis for a thousand( it is the minimal qty.) three color card. I'd like a print for them that: 1. Will accept input in an open-content format that's well supported under Linux. (OpenOffice.org, TIFF, BMP, etc.) Well, I installed OOo at their PCs because they did not have how to open my odp file( it was the only one sentence that justify why I´m responding to the whole list;). They have all the Adobe stuff that support TIFF, BMP, etc. as well, and maybe don´t know that they can use Neooffice at their Macs. 2. In Tel-Aviv or vicinity Allenby 24 2nd floor 03- 6203290 3. Good service and good results. They were well- disposed and my order was ready on time. Cheers, -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
Hi, El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 10:46 +1000, Geoff Shang escribió: I'm about to move to Israel with my wife. We've managed to land ourselves a good deal for cable Internet, and I've been reading conflicting information about how it works. The best way I found to deal with cable was calling to the ISP( but never to HOT!) and ask them for Linux support otherwise I´ll move to other ISP. They instantly gave me a direct connection so I didn´t have to worry about protocols for the DHCP. The method works pretty well with many ISP. The howto at http://tx.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html says that everyone uses PPTP. The howto at http://iglu.org.il/amit/cable seems to indicate that this was changing, and the IGLU FAQ says all you need is a DHCP client and the cable modem. I've also heard from other sources that it uses PPPoE. So which is it? AFAIK and at least until four months ago, cable uses L2TP. For more information check out http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/BrdBandDefs/BrdBandDefs.htm Thanks in advance for any help you can give. It's confusing trying to get technical questions answered from the other side of the world when you don't speak the language. Cheers, -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 10:40 +0300, Jonathan Ben Avraham escribió: http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/BrdBandDefs/BrdBandDefs.htm This is a Hebrew article - is there something similar in English? - yba You are right. Sorry( see original Geoff comments bellow). At least the word Linux and the names of protocols and modems are in Latin characters at the tables, including their links. I just STFWed Googling for¨ israel cable L2TP¨ to find useful links. See some examples. http://l3ech.net/cables_linux_l2tp.php?reverse=on http://www.tournament.org.il/run/index.php?/archives/33-Cables-in-Israel-and-L2TP-on-Fedora-Core-3-Linux.html http://support.actcom.co.il/support/tips/cableen/cableRedhat_l2tp.php http://www.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html#pptp_l2tp_pppoe Hope it is useful. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. It's confusing trying to get technical questions answered from the other side of the world when you don't speak the language. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 21:51 +1000, Geoff Shang escribió: Hello, Thanks to everyone who responded. So it seems that some howtos need updating. Ok so since I'm going to get a router eventually anyway, I need to get one that does L2TP, right? Are most Israeli routers L2TP enabled or do I need to specifically ask for it? Many of them but not all, you should request for routers with good cable support. 3Com routers work fine with L2TP. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for a Laptop
El jue, 05-04-2007 a las 22:30 +0300, Dotan Cohen escribió: I'm using a Dell Inspiron 6400 lappy with Fedora Core 6. At the time I bought it, one HAD to purchase Windowx XP with it, but now I think that you have a choice of Vista or some Linux distro, I don't know which. I don't think that any lappy today comes without Vista. I had a short conversation with Alex Pinchev of Red Hat last week and he told me that Dell choose Ubuntu as the distro to be preinstalled from factory at some their laptops. I don´t know if these laptops will also provided with some Windows version or proprietary drivers, but they would work well with any other major distro without tricky solutions for drivers. Julian -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on The Smallest RSA Key on 01-April-2007
El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 19:11 +0200, Shlomi Fish escribió: By the way, I want to recall that it will the last opportunity to drink beer before Passover. So, those attendees who are interested can think about a place after the meeting. A possibility can be¨ Rosh Pina¨ it is at Bordetsky 5 min. walking from TAU, they have food, a happy hour, also is cheaper than the campus´ coffee shop and you not have to wait for big tables. I don't know about you, but I don't need beer (or any other alcohol or caffeine or sugar or cigarettes or whatever) to feel good. I don´t believe you about sugars. Beer would be nice for people who can enjoy it, but I'm not going to a smoke-filled pub instead of a nice outdoor cafי, like the TAU Coffee to Go which I really like. If you want to hit a pub later - be my guest. If not - can you consider wine instead? Considering the desires of some people last meeting, the intentions are to go to a quiet, cheaper, not smoke-filled, with better beers and no noisy people place, as the one that I´m proposing. The idea is to have fun after enjoying the lecture so it will ups to the people. Shlomi, if you accept to come and try once, I´ll give you a Red Hat edition of the Elite´s chocolate bar. Yes, such thing exists and I have three and no, is not open source. It was only for free( as beer?);) Cheers, Julian Regards, Shlomi Fish P.S: I don't drink alcohol at all. Not even the 4 mini-glasses of wine in Passover, or during Purim. I find that people who consume alcohol, caffeine, etc. are much less balanced and tend to be more drowsy and dysfunctional than I am. And I know how to have a good time without them. And no - you don't need to reply to that. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on The Smallest RSA Key on 01-April-2007
El sáb, 31-03-2007 a las 17:58 +0300, Shlomi Fish escribió: I don´t believe you about sugars. It's a fact. I'm perfectly happy without eating sugars. There was a time when I didn't eat processed sugar for months. Recently, though I had a relapse. In any case, I do eat carbohydrates. Some of us already saw what you actually eat;) and it´s OK. Like I said, I don't need aphrodisiacs to feel happy. Just eating and chatting with friends in a cafe is good enough. Not to mention hacking: working on code, writing articles, essays aphorisms, funny bits and stories, blogging etc. This is real, long-term, happiness of having achieved something or having genuine fun, not the short-term, temporary and back-firing happiness of having consumed a mood-altering substance. No place for sex? or are you getting enough fun and happiness from trolling again? I stop here. See you tomorrow. You might wish to see: http://catb.org/esr/jargon/html/chemicals.html -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on The Smallest RSA Key on 01-April-2007
It took to the bellow message more than 16 hours to reach the list! Is it a server´s April 1st joke or maybe the server become stoned from the discussion on alcohol, drugs and sugars? Julian El sáb, 31-03-2007 a las 13:44 +0300, Julian Daich escribió: El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 19:11 +0200, Shlomi Fish escribi³: By the way, I want to recall that it will the last opportunity to drink beer before Passover. So, those attendees who are interested can think about a place after the meeting. A possibility can be¨ Rosh Pina¨ it is at Bordetsky 5 min. walking from TAU, they have food, a happy hour, also is cheaper than the campus´ coffee shop and you not have to wait for big tables. I don't know about you, but I don't need beer (or any other alcohol or caffeine or sugar or cigarettes or whatever) to feel good. I don´t believe you about sugars. Beer would be nice for people who can enjoy it, but I'm not going to a smoke-filled pub instead of a nice outdoor caf™, like the TAU Coffee to Go which I really like. If you want to hit a pub later - be my guest. If not - can you consider wine instead? Considering the desires of some people last meeting, the intentions are to go to a quiet, cheaper, not smoke-filled, with better beers and no noisy people place, as the one that I´m proposing. The idea is to have fun after enjoying the lecture so it will ups to the people. Shlomi, if you accept to come and try once, I´ll give you a Red Hat edition of the Elite´s chocolate bar. Yes, such thing exists and I have three and no, is not open source. It was only for free( as beer?);) Cheers, Julian Regards, Shlomi Fish P.S: I don't drink alcohol at all. Not even the 4 mini-glasses of wine in Passover, or during Purim. I find that people who consume alcohol, caffeine, etc. are much less balanced and tend to be more drowsy and dysfunctional than I am. And I know how to have a good time without them. And no - you don't need to reply to that. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on The Smallest RSA Key on 01-April-2007
El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 03:23 +0200, Shlomi Fish escribió: Hi all, happy Passover, and happy upcoming April Fool's day! Shachar Shemesh will give on Sunday, 1 April 2007 (April Fool's) a presentation about Why the Smallest RSA Private Key is not 42 (it's 47): By the way, I want to recall that it will the last opportunity to drink beer before Passover. So, those attendees who are interested can think about a place after the meeting. A possibility can be¨ Rosh Pina¨ it is at Bordetsky 5 min. walking from TAU, they have food, a happy hour, also is cheaper than the campus´ coffee shop and you not have to wait for big tables. Julian http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/lin-club_files/Shachar-Shemesh--RSA-lecture.odp For this, we'll meet on 11-March-2007 at 18:30, in Schreiber 008 (note the change of room from last semester) in the Tel Aviv University campus. More information can be found on the site: http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ The attendance is free and everyone are welcome to attend. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ Chuck Norris wrote a complete Perl 6 implementation in a day but then destroyed all evidence with his bare hands, so no one will know his secrets. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scan to PDF question
El mar, 20-03-2007 a las 15:51 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo escribió: Hi People, I'm looking for an app that has the following features: * can use Sane to scan a document * can save it to PDF * The PDF shouldn't be a dumb TIFF/JPG file page/collection, but a real PDF (so I can search/grep for words in the scanned doc) * Should have some basic hebrew OCR (optionally) Any suggestions? Hocr + OpenOffice Thanks, Hetz -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió: There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these: Genius 1200XE - NIS 243 Genius HR7 - NIS 389 Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their scanners a month or so ago. Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨ good¨ support usually it means not complete. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p= However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported. Julian Plustek 1200 - NIS 289 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro mechanical components and scanning speed. Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent Hebrew Live CD
El dom, 11-03-2007 a las 10:49 +0200, Micha Silver escribió: As part of the Safe Internet Day we'd like to hand out to school kids a live CD with hebrew support built in. Does anyone know if the efforts with the Kinneret live CD, or Hebuntu are being updated? What's our best option today for a LiveCD with a hebrew interface out of the box? Is anyone doing any remastering for a hebrew distro these days? You can try with Kazit or, although less updated, Mini Kazit[ 1]. Kazit is based on Knoppix 5.0.1 and I found it better organized and easy to use than Kinneret. Mini Kazit it is a 2004 version based in Debian Sid. It is less actualized, but it is lighter and maybe more attractive to kids. [ 1]http://kazit.berlios.de/ Rgds, Julian Thanks, Micha = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random moves of the mouse
El lun, 05-03-2007 a las 09:47 +0200, Elazar Leibovich escribió: I'm having an ubuntu Edge Eft (2.6.17-11-generic) system with a ps2 mouse. After a period of times it moves randomly clicking spots on the screen. For reference, the system is affected by the bug mentioned here[1] on USB HID wireless mice from HP. Anyone know a cure for that? First time than I hear about such bug in Ubuntu. So I have not experience with it, but according to the link that you provided the bug, if it is the same than yours, was solved for Debian systems. It is also points at the bug description that there are two ways to get it working again: - unplug and replug the mouse - restart the gpm You can also try with other kernels by pressing¨ Delete when Grub starts or with the Ubuntu 6.06 or 7.04 live CDs. You also should search for a similar bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs or report a new one. PS this is a reason for the claim that linux is not for the home user yet. Why, by this rare case of an specific mouse on an specific system using an specific distro under, maybe, an specific kernel? The bug description also tells that unplug and replug the mouse will make it work again and also is clear than when the bug was reported, it was solved. I'm using windows since 95 on various hardwares, and never occured a problem with the crucial input/output (screen/keyboard/mouse). I want to see that if you report such bug to Microsoft, they will take care of you. By the way, have you noticed of the bunch of hardware that does not work on Vista? Hope it will help you. Julian [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314954 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the great jerusalem firewall
El vie, 02-03-2007 a las 12:44 +0200, Yonah Russ escribió: I'm confused... is there any parent that wants their kids to freely and easily access pornography? What about if they are?... Halevai the UN would treat pornography like they treat nuclear weapons. -Yonah On 3/2/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We (more exactly *you*) are about to join Iran, China and North Korea. Are you ready ? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3371412,00.html Peter P. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writing in Hebrew while using ies4linux[ SOLVED] (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El mar, 27-02-2007 a las 00:41 +0200, Julian Daich escribió: I tried to implement the patch on my laptop. I just copied and pasted the ie6 file and I receiving the following error bin/ie6: line 13: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8: command not found What could went wrong? The tabs were converted into spaces while pasting. Wit my lack of knowledge in scripting I did not note that. I changed that and now I can type in Hebrew in ie6 with my laptop too. Sorry for bothering the list. Julian Julian On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] computer recycling
Hi, I´m preparing a computer class for children in Linux at Givataim with some friends. It is intended to be a community center supported by artists and creative people( they are still docked at pirated Windows at their personal PCs, but I´m working on that). I already mounted three computers from scratch and they run Xubuntu/ Edubuntu and maybe Fluxbuntu or SDL for old PIs/ MMX. We need monitors, PC- 100 and 133 memories and any other working junk. I will be more than happy in receiving your stuff. Julian El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 14:14 +0200, Jason Friedman escribió: Sorry about the off-topic post, but I couldn't find this information anywhere . . . Is there anywhere in Israel where one can recycle old computers. I have several non-working and very old computers, monitors and printers that I would like to recycle rather than throw in the trash for environmental reasons. Thanks, Jason -- Jason Friedman Ph.D. Student Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] Hi, I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters. See also my comments at the bottom. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? Thanks, Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 22:41 +0200, Ori Idan escribió: The plus means a line added. You should not put the plus sign at the beginning of the line in your script. It works! I also noted that these lines must not being added but substitute the precedent similar lines. I guess now that patch -p /path/to/patch was for adding the modifications to the ie6 script from a external file of the kind of Gilboa sent. What he did was running diff on his new file versus the original file and that was the output. Gilboa, Ori Thanks, Julian -- Ori Idan On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. [1] Hi, I´m trying to implement your patch modifying my $HOME/bin/ie6 with my limited knowledge in programing and scripting. I´m receiving errors from every line preceded by the symbol + by running $HOME/bin/ie6 and I still see ? symbols instead Hebrew characters. See also my comments at the bottom. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa [1] $ cd ~/bin $ patch -p /path/to/patch What means? It is not $HOME/bin/ie6? Thanks, Julian = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 23:25 +0200, Julian Daich escribió: I tried to implement the patch on my laptop. I just copied and pasted the ie6 file and I receiving the following error bin/ie6: line 13: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8: command not found What could went wrong? Julian On 2/26/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 26-02-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: Just set the LANG to he_IL.UTF-8. Apply this patch to that $HOME/bin/ie6 shell script. === --- ie6.old 2007-02-26 11:46:11.0 +0200 +++ ie6 2007-02-26 11:46:21.0 +0200 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ #!/usr/bin/env bash # IEs 4 Linux script to run ie6 - http://tatanka.com.br/ies4linux - -cd +cd ~ +ENCODING=he_IL.UTF-8 export WINEPREFIX=/home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6 if [ -f /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun ]; then rm /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/.firstrun - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ok-en.html; else - wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ + LANG=$ENCODING wine /home/gilboa/.ies4linux/ie6/drive_c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/IEXPLORE.EXE $@ fi === - Gilboa = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ies4linux (was Re: Firefox and Isracard)
El dom, 25-02-2007 a las 11:40 +0200, Gilboa Davara escribió: FYI, IE4sLinux has a beta version that supports IE7. (I've played with it a bit - and it seems to work just fine.) Do you can write nativelly in Hebrew on it without pasting up from other application? Using ie6 under Wine I have to copy and paste from OpenOffice if I have to write in Hebrew. - Gilboa = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for a drawing application
El lun, 19-02-2007 a las 17:53 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: Is there some free linux app similar to Visio or McDraw? I'd like to draw some block diagrams and save as GIF/JPEG so I can display it in a web browser. You can try OpenOffice Draw. It is part of the OpenOffice suite. It is not so sophisticated as the apps you mentioned, but considering your needs, it should do the work. You always have the possibility of doing retouches with GIMP. An additional alternative, could be Xara. It is intended to vectorial graphics, but it would be well also for diagrams. Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El jue, 15-02-2007 a las 12:51 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: I agree with you that I was not specific enough, and I apologize for that. Switching from windows desktop to linux desktop is far from intuitive, therefore my questions are kind of dumb. Consider them newbee questions. My next one is about calendar/appointment book. Thundirbird does not have it AFAIK. What do I need to look for on FC5/KDE desktop? Kontact Thanks, Dan On 2/14/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 18:51 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: Thank you all for the very interesting thread. FYI I'm using fedora core 5, KDE, everything standard. But that is not relevant. Why do you think is what not relevant? Next time be more specific! Dotan I think, almost figured me out, I'm using Linux for years, (!) but always in console mode, never graphics, never gui. For that I used windows. All I needed to know is that on the bottom right there's a little icon with US on it, and by clicking it, I'd switch to hebrew input. You could have said - very similar to windows. Right click over the KDE toolbarselect add an item select from the items´ menu the keyboard app. In Windows( AFAIK at least until XP) you don´t have the possibility to add items to your toolbar at a glance. Anyway, this how to kill a fly with an atomic bomb was very educational. Next time try to play a little bit. Thanks Dan On 2/14/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 09:55 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: How do I input hebrew on Linux? Your question sound like,¨ How do I use an computer?¨ More specifically, in firefox (2.0). Could you be more specific? Which Linux distribution and desktop enviroment are you using? Did you set the Hebrew? Usually you have to: 1. Set the Hebrew keyboard. 2. Have installed the Hebrew packages of* your* distro including aspell for Hebrew if you want support for spelling and, if it is available for your distro, Firefox-locale-he if you want Firefox in Hebrew. Hebrew packages are often called Language-pack-he or Langauge-support-he in some distros. Hebrew fonts, as Culmus, and other basics features have to be installed by default in most distros. Julian Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 09:55 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: How do I input hebrew on Linux? Your question sound like,¨ How do I use an computer?¨ More specifically, in firefox (2.0). Could you be more specific? Which Linux distribution and desktop enviroment are you using? Did you set the Hebrew? Usually you have to: 1. Set the Hebrew keyboard. 2. Have installed the Hebrew packages of* your* distro including aspell for Hebrew if you want support for spelling and, if it is available for your distro, Firefox-locale-he if you want Firefox in Hebrew. Hebrew packages are often called Language-pack-he or Langauge-support-he in some distros. Hebrew fonts, as Culmus, and other basics features have to be installed by default in most distros. Julian Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 10:39 +0200, Tzahi Fadida escribió: You need to switch to a hebrew keyboard. If you have xorg, then you'll probably have to edit it and add/edit something like this to /etc/X11/xorg.conf: In many distros if you are using a Gnome or KDE all the keyboard layouts you do not need to make changes at /etc/X11/xorg.conf to switch the keyboard and it is not recommended to play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have not experience with it. In these cases you can change the keyboard layout from the desktop settings or adding the keyboard applet( as in Windows or Mac) to your toolbar and /etc/X11/xorg.conf will always set as¨ us¨ in the XkbLayout entry. Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd option CoreKeyboard option XkbRules xorg option XkbModel pc105 option XkbLayout us,il option XkbOptions grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll EndSection Restart X. Then use alt-shift to switch keyboard to hebrew. On Wednesday 14 February 2007 09:55, Dan Bar Dov wrote: How do I input hebrew on Linux? More specifically, in firefox (2.0). Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 11:20 +0200, Tzahi Fadida escribió: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 11:01, Julian Daich wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 10:39 +0200, Tzahi Fadida escribió: You are right, of course, but i wish it was true for my KDE on kubuntu. The dang thing ignores ALT-SHIFT or any combination for that matter when group switches are enabled. Or even more weirder, sometimes it switches once and stops. This is before and after a total reinstall 2 weeks ago. Guess KDE does not like my keyboard. In Gnome you can set keys shortcuts with the keyboard preferences, but at least in my Ubuntu, you have to restart xorg( or the system) to make the changes to have effect. So, in the event KDE configuration (System settings-Regional settings in KDE) won't succeed for our friend here, then he can do it in xorg.conf For all these reasons, it is important that Dan tell us which distro and GUI he is using, if he want an effective help. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 14:09 +0200, Dotan Cohen escribió: On 14/02/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 09:55 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: How do I input hebrew on Linux? Your question sound like,¨ How do I use an computer?¨ That wasn't nice. I meant that the question was too vague. Nothing more than that. Also my answer for the original threat had a continuation. Dan probably has experience with Windows, not Linux. When he learns Linux, and then sits down at a Mac, he will then also need to ask (As would you and I at a Mac terminal) how to enter Hebrew. And he turned to the rihgt place to ask: this mailing list. That's what we are here for. I remember also my first jump into Linux two and half years ago. The installer asked me about language and keyboard distribution and Hebrew was there, so my thinking was there will be some kind of control panel where to set or change my keyboard again if I need Hebrew. After playing one or two days with the desktop, I found the keyboard settings and the keyboard applet for the toolbar. So, again, I concluded that Dan question was too vague and that we need more information to help him. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/653/frukwan.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 18:51 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: Thank you all for the very interesting thread. FYI I'm using fedora core 5, KDE, everything standard. But that is not relevant. Why do you think is what not relevant? Next time be more specific! Dotan I think, almost figured me out, I'm using Linux for years, (!) but always in console mode, never graphics, never gui. For that I used windows. All I needed to know is that on the bottom right there's a little icon with US on it, and by clicking it, I'd switch to hebrew input. You could have said - very similar to windows. Right click over the KDE toolbarselect add an item select from the items´ menu the keyboard app. In Windows( AFAIK at least until XP) you don´t have the possibility to add items to your toolbar at a glance. Anyway, this how to kill a fly with an atomic bomb was very educational. Next time try to play a little bit. Thanks Dan On 2/14/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 09:55 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: How do I input hebrew on Linux? Your question sound like,¨ How do I use an computer?¨ More specifically, in firefox (2.0). Could you be more specific? Which Linux distribution and desktop enviroment are you using? Did you set the Hebrew? Usually you have to: 1. Set the Hebrew keyboard. 2. Have installed the Hebrew packages of* your* distro including aspell for Hebrew if you want support for spelling and, if it is available for your distro, Firefox-locale-he if you want Firefox in Hebrew. Hebrew packages are often called Language-pack-he or Langauge-support-he in some distros. Hebrew fonts, as Culmus, and other basics features have to be installed by default in most distros. Julian Thanks, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ubuntu - linux for smart humen beings only
El lun, 12-02-2007 a las 10:48 +0200, Erez D escribió: i migrated from fedora, which was not stable, to centos (rhel clone) which was stable enough but missing a lot of applications, and the apps it had were of older versions, which did not support many needed things. I migrated my main system, a PIII, from Fedora to Ubuntu 6.10 and noted huge improvements in performance, speed, usability, configuration( Hebrew in Gnome and OOo just works!) and packages availability. at work i installed ubuntu 6.10 edy x86_64 about a month ago. it was easy to use as windows is it was stable as windows is (it crushed in 1 month more than centos in 2 years) however, i was told it is the 64bit issue. many apps are missing in the 64version (for example macromedia's oroginal flash). some where solved by installing the 32bit versions of firefox, flash, mplayer ... mplayer32 crashes every time so i am using the mplayer64 which is stable but not many codecs firefox32 works well about Nvidia: for some reason, i have to reinstall nvidia after each end every boot !!! what i did like about ubuntu is that it has almost any program i can think of ported to it and easily installed with 'apt-get program' although it took me a lot of time adapting to not have /etc/inittab. You may try with Ubuntu 6.06( or Kubuntu) with long time support( LTS). It also stills has Init. You could replace Firefox 1.5 by Swiftfox 2.0( 1) which is an optimised version of FF for GNU/ Linux. Swiftfox has optimized versions for many processors. Regarding multimedia, Ubuntu works well with the combination Totem/ Xine for me, but I don´t know about 64 bits. You may check it out at the Ubuntu wiki/ forums´s answers. so i decided to install it on a spare partition on my home machine. and had the problems i reported in my original mail. So, what is going on with your home machine now?! so, what is the ubuntu convention ? which ubuntu is stable, which is not fully baked (aka beta), and which is alpha ? Ubuntu 6.06 is better tuned, more stable as has LTS( 2) but many packages as Firefox or OpenOffice are not updated( they are on 1.5.08 and 2.0.3 respectively), 6.10 is the current release and 7.04 is still on beta. You may also try Debian Etch as an alternative if you find that Ubuntu does not meet your expectatives. Links ( 1)http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm ( 2)http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases thanks, erez. On 2/11/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 22:35 +0200, ik escribió: The real problem with Ubuntu (that hopefully 7.06 will solve that) is that 6.10 was half beaked when it was released, and you feel it. There were problems with some packages as, I experienced, Nvidia drivers, Flash plugin and the HAL daemon all of them solved by the updates. Another issue was the integration with some BIOS. Most cases were solved and everything is well documented at the Ubuntu wiki/ forum. Ubuntu 7.04 will solve many problems and will opens new ones as usual. Neither 6.10 or 7.04 are intended for long time support as is 6.06 Julian Ido On 2/11/07, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi have tryed to install ubuntu edgy 6.10 i386 on my pc, and it crashed during install so i did a 'check disk for defects' and got a strange msg: check finished: 0 checksums failed. what is that ? is that a psycometric test to see if i am smart enough to install ubuntu ? (btw, i googled for it, and i saw people thinking this means error, and other thinking this means ok) and at ubuntu.com they say: ubuntu - linux for human beings go figure. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ubuntu - linux for smart humen beings only
El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 11:06 +0200, Erez D escribió: hi have tryed to install ubuntu edgy 6.10 i386 on my pc, and it crashed during install You forgot to tell us what your pc is, when exactly it crashes during the install process and if you did try again. so i did a 'check disk for defects' and got a strange msg: check finished: 0 checksums failed. i googled for it, and i saw people thinking this means error, and other thinking this means ok Well as you already noted, the checksum results are sometimes ambiguous. I had the case of one cd that I received from Cannonical that worked fine in one PC, but crashed at the end of the installing while¨ Removing unnecessary packages¨ in other and in both I received the checksum message that you had. I tried with other cd that I burned by myself and everything was ok. Maybe other members of the list knows better how checksum works, or if the problem can be related to the cd or the cd reader. Rgds, Julian and at ubuntu.com they say: ubuntu - linux for human beings go figure. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ubuntu - linux for smart humen beings only
El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 14:33 +0200, Erez D escribió: well, my hardware is: p4 3.2G HT 120GB sata hd 0.5GB ram. You can check for RAM errors also. Bad RAMs can the also the cause of installation crashes. Especially when trying to install from the live cd. If I not wrong, the OS is already loaded in you RAM. a clarification - by crush i ment 'hanged'. Sometimes hanging is not crushing. It happens to me helping a friend installing Xubuntu. The computer hanged for more than 20 minutes after copying the files while begun to configure the system, but the install process finished without inconveniences. i tried twice, and it hanged both times at the same place (don't remember exactly what pkg it was, i'll check it when i get home). Try also with other cd if problems persist. tnx, erez. On 2/11/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 11:06 +0200, Erez D escribió: hi have tryed to install ubuntu edgy 6.10 i386 on my pc, and it crashed during install You forgot to tell us what your pc is, when exactly it crashes during the install process and if you did try again. so i did a 'check disk for defects' and got a strange msg: check finished: 0 checksums failed. i googled for it, and i saw people thinking this means error, and other thinking this means ok Well as you already noted, the checksum results are sometimes ambiguous. I had the case of one cd that I received from Cannonical that worked fine in one PC, but crashed at the end of the installing while¨ Removing unnecessary packages¨ in other and in both I received the checksum message that you had. I tried with other cd that I burned by myself and everything was ok. Maybe other members of the list knows better how checksum works, or if the problem can be related to the cd or the cd reader. Rgds, Julian and at ubuntu.com they say: ubuntu - linux for human beings go figure. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ubuntu - linux for smart humen beings only
El dom, 11-02-2007 a las 22:35 +0200, ik escribió: The real problem with Ubuntu (that hopefully 7.06 will solve that) is that 6.10 was half beaked when it was released, and you feel it. There were problems with some packages as, I experienced, Nvidia drivers, Flash plugin and the HAL daemon all of them solved by the updates. Another issue was the integration with some BIOS. Most cases were solved and everything is well documented at the Ubuntu wiki/ forum. Ubuntu 7.04 will solve many problems and will opens new ones as usual. Neither 6.10 or 7.04 are intended for long time support as is 6.06 Julian Ido On 2/11/07, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi have tryed to install ubuntu edgy 6.10 i386 on my pc, and it crashed during install so i did a 'check disk for defects' and got a strange msg: check finished: 0 checksums failed. what is that ? is that a psycometric test to see if i am smart enough to install ubuntu ? (btw, i googled for it, and i saw people thinking this means error, and other thinking this means ok) and at ubuntu.com they say: ubuntu - linux for human beings go figure. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] - Somee dangers of living under the United States of American law system[ was The dangers of using windows]
El lun, 29-01-2007 a las 11:55 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham escribió: Hi Yuval, Ok, another example. So what difference would using Linux or FOSS have made? The difference is that security flaws in FOSS, which are easier to be noticed about and therefore to fix them, were not extensively exploited yet. But the real threat do not reside in the software, spyware or *ware but in the United States of America law system. Fortunately me, as other many members of this mailing list, do not live there. julian - yba On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Yuval Langer wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:33:58 +0200 From: Yuval Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-IL linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: [OT] - The dangers of using windows On Monday 29 January 2007 04:29:17 Amos Shapira wrote: Have to read it to believe it... Substitute Teacher Faces Jail Time Over Spyware A 40-year-old former substitute teacher from Connecticut is facing prison time following her conviction for endangering students by exposing them to pornographic material displayed on a classroom computer. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/01/substitute_teacher_faces _jail.html Some 16 year old kid got arrested and charged with possession of child porngraphy. http://sex.goleshet.com/home/516 -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
El dom, 28-01-2007 a las 17:05 +0200, Dotan Cohen escribió: On 28/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a direct solution ;-) ;-) ;-) http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ origin: /. Peter That site downlaods an exe. What is in it? Debian as a windows executable? Somehow I don't think so. Click at the More details about it link and at the Ubuntu sister project. You will see. It is Amazing! Julian Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/398/pet_shop_boys.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
Is that what we've come to? Running a Debian spinoff on NTFS? Amazing indeed. Well, it is for those whom are already running WinXP in NTFS... The bad side for this threat, it will not work for Win98. AFAIK Win98 is FAT. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/398/pet_shop_boys.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
El dom, 28-01-2007 a las 23:32 +0200, Beni Cherniavsky escribió: To add my $2e-2 to the argument, this is not a big concern. How many times have you seen NTFS crash? NTFS is not FAT (*), so windows is not really going to ruin the image file (unless the sky falls hard upon the partition, in which case windows will die as well the user will know who is to blame ;-). And from linux's side, since it's only a fixed-size image file, there is no danger of damaging the NTFS either - the only access to NTFS is read-only to find the sectors where the image file sits. (*) Still, the world is crazy in trusting all their data to a hardly documented proprietary FS... See the future improvements for install.exe, the Ubuntu version( sister) of the program. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe#head-7180a43dffb23de674cd6b75ee727a30d3b9c0ef The option to create an ext3 system and export all the OS will be available. The program will also import internet setting( maybe connections too?), emails, bokkmarks, etc... -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evolution crashes while trying to correct speling errors
El dom, 07-01-2007 a las 03:51 +0200, Oded Arbel escribió: Happens here as well. there's a bug open on that in GNOME's bugzilla, and I'd appreciate it if you sign in and comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360995 I cloned the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393819 These crashes did not happen with Evolution 2.5, but then editing and writing in Hebrew was buggy and the Hebrew speller never worked for me. At least, after installing Ubuntu with Evolution 2.8 everything worked well for a week or so. While I'm using Evolution as my main e-mail/calender client, there are some serious issues with Evolution, including crashes ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330728 - this is serious and happens to me several times a day), It never happened to me with any Evolution version that I used in the past 2 and half years. usability ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207624 - this one is so basic that its amazing no developer had yet to address it, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357953 , http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356729 ) and just plain stupid bugs ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380065 ), These are not different from the minor bugs that you can find at almost any decent and complex program. You cannot blame Evolution for that. none of which apparently do not warrant serious effort from the developers - Is not Novell a major player in the development of Evolution? Evolution 2.9 is being actively developed without any of a long list of important bugs I'm CCed on or reported personally getting any attention - I really have no idea what 2.10 will be different then the current 2.8, if even serious everyday crashes aren't going to be fixed. As such, I would not recommend anyone to use Evolution if you care about your data H... (I'm using IMAP, so I'm not in that much of a problem if Evo fouls up, although there was a case where Evo deleted large chunks of my IMAP storage). I can't really recommend any Linux mail client at the moment as the best solution, and I'm not talking about a PIM client at all. If you corner me, I'd admit that Kmail/Kontact is a useful PIM client if you don't mind giving up on HTML e-mail and remotely stored contacts, and Thunderbird is useful if you don't plan on writing Hebrew and rarely reads Hebrew e-mail, and if you don't mind long waits for remote folders syncing (and at least developers for both product do take note of bug reports. In my experience KDE developer are better in that respect then any other community, but they are all busy now with KDE 4, so don't expect too much). And who says that Kmail and Thunderbird have not similar bugs or people that some time lost their messages and or storage? The problems that I´m experiencing are related with spelling and editing and no mail editor is 100% perfect in that if you include html, ctl and encoding. Otherwise, I recommend everyone who can handle it to use some console mail client like mutt, Yeah, and Lynx for surfing the web to avoid, pop- ups, flash intros, malaware, etc. or even Telnet to keep layout compatibility...:P Just jocking:) and everyone else to use webmail. Which service? Gmail. Many people lost their messages and accounts due a server problem a couple of months ago. Yahoo! A bunch of publicity, unnecessary windows, security issues, bad encoding support and changes of police every couple of months. Hotmail. In general lines as Yahoo!, but with a record mark in the number of cracked and stolen accounts. Reminds the rest of the services that are basically the same as the above, but with less user friendly interfaces most of the time. Julian -- Oded ::.. What qualities are needed by an author? A determination to keep at it. -- Douglas N. Adams = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evolution crashes while trying to correct speling errors
El dom, 07-01-2007 a las 12:04 +0200, Julian Daich escribió: El dom, 07-01-2007 a las 03:51 +0200, Oded Arbel escribió: Happens here as well. there's a bug open on that in GNOME's bugzilla, and I'd appreciate it if you sign in and comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360995 I cloned the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393819 I was contacted by the GNOME bugzilla team. They closed the bug arguing that it is related to aspell and not with GNOME or Evolution. Now I checked out at the aspell bug tracker and found what seems to be the actual bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1614925group_id=245atid=100245 Libaspell crashes when it is called from a third application when multiple languages are installed. The developers apparently solved the issue in aspell 6.05. The current available version to the public is aspell 6.04- 4. I filled out my comments to the bug with my bug log. By the meantime I´ll wait till the release of the dpkg. -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evolution crashes while trying to correct speling errors
Hi all, I have installed Ubuntu 6.10 with myspell in four languages. While right clicking in Evolution over bad written words trying to correct them, Evolution crashes and leaves these error messages only( with their English translations). ** (bug-buddy:25742): WARNING **: No se pudo cargar el icono para Abrir carpeta( Unable to load the Open folder icon) ** (bug-buddy:25742): WARNING **: No se pudo cargar el icono para Administrador de teléfonos( Unable to load the Phone manager icon) Any idea? -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 15:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company decided that Wine was not getting there, and stopped sponsoring any more work on it. Is that also an evil thing to do? I personally do not so join Peter´s point of view, but¨ Lindows¨ was sued by Microsoft by using a name similar to¨ Windows¨ for a OS that runs Windows´ apps. I do not remember what exactly occurred with the trial, but¨ Lindows¨ became¨ Linspire¨ and they were granted by Microsoft with the rights to use or distribute codecs as the win32 package and other proprietary software within their distribution. Julian In conclusion, I think that this email is a bit paranoid. Peter Shachar P.s. Since some of the list's administrators have seemed to jump those guns in the past, threatening actions, I would like to clarify that though I think that Peter's email is paranoid, I have no reason to believe that Peter himself is paranoid. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 16:40 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: Julian Daich wrote: El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 15:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company decided that Wine was not getting there, and stopped sponsoring any more work on it. Is that also an evil thing to do? I personally do not so join Peter´s point of view, but¨ Lindows¨ was sued by Microsoft by using a name similar to¨ Windows¨ for a OS that runs Windows´ apps. The incident you refer to happened over two years after the one I'm referring to, which is the reason I find it hard to believe there is any relation between the two. Lindow's decision to forsake Wine was purely economic. I do not remember what exactly occurred with the trial, The suing party (MS) paid the defendants (Lindows) to change their name, understanding that if the trial does go forward MS will lose their trademark. With¨ paid¨ do you mean that MS lost the case? but¨ Lindows¨ became¨ Linspire¨ and they were granted by Microsoft with the rights to use or distribute codecs as the win32 package and other proprietary software within their distribution. Which, you have agree, is a very strange outcome, considering it was MS that sued Linspire, not vice versa. Julian Shachar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 16:40 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: but¨ Lindows¨ became¨ Linspire¨ and they were granted by Microsoft with the rights to use or distribute codecs as the win32 package and other proprietary software within their distribution. Which, you have agree, is a very strange outcome, considering it was MS that sued Linspire, not vice versa. Not so strange is Microsoft lost the case http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3080897910.html Julian Shachar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ubuntu freeze
El mié, 22-11-2006 a las 18:03 +0200, David Suna escribió: It is a brand new machine with a new install of Ubuntu Dapper. I have gotten some automatic updates but basically it is a 6.06 system. Did the problems start from the beginning or after some update? which repositories are you using for apt-get? It is a Gigabyte motherboard with a dual core Pentium 4 processor. The video is the onboard Intel 945G graphics controller. It has a single 250GB SATA drive. It currently has 512 MB of DDR2 RAM. The second 512 MB chip was returned because it failed memtest. I am waiting to get a replacement. Even with half of the RAM your system not seems to be shortcoming in resources. Ubuntu was developed and well tested with such hardware. The issues that I told about are related to older hardware not so well tested in *ubuntu 6.06 or higher. Are you still experiencing troubles after removing that RAM? It is also very recommendable to use the kernel 686 from the* stable* repositories. If after revert or upgrade to the 686 kernel and upgrade your system with the* stable* repositories the problems persists is time to think about a broken package or a hardware failure. I am running GNOME (I installed the workstation install and added the server packages that I wanted). Sometimes the freezes occur when the machine is idle and sometimes when the machine is active. What the machine did then? Since I had memory problems on this machine before I ran memtest on the memory but no errors were reported even after running the test for more than 10 hours. Check also if your motherboard is overclocked and remove the defective RAM. Check for your specific hardware at the Ubuntu bug reports. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs Check also if your swap is active. The new system that replace Init at Ubuntu 6.10 sometimes forgets to activate the swap space. However it seems only occur if you upgraded from an older version and was not has been yet reported in fresh installs. Try with Ubuntu 5.10 and if it works, don´t forget to fill a bug. Can anyone suggest how to go about diagnosing what the problem is? Thanks, = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novell and Microsoft
El vie, 10-11-2006 a las 22:16 +1100, Amos Shapira escribió: On 10/11/06, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El vie, 10-11-2006 a las 11:01 +0200, Oron Peled escribió: Yes, but copyright law is not the only game in town. The deal talks specifically about patents -- Now it may be your software but you are not allowed to use it. It is more than a patent deal. It is a patent deal to support a distribution model. It can mean that Microsoft will embed Suse as they do with Internet Explorer or something different, but the announce tells that Microsoft is paying about distribution rights( 1). In addition, 348 M$ is too much for a simple patent agreement. You cannot get this money today by suing Linux companies, users or communities. ( 1) http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6133361.html?tag=nl.e550 To quote from the link you give: entitling customers to support and maintenance for Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Server. That doesn't sound like Distribution Rights. It looks like MS will be another sales channel for Novell. Sales channels are often called distributors by the industry. Obviously, they didn't say *which* patents they are trading (if any). FUD has the interesting property of causing real damage even when it deals with purely imaginary facts. So even if those patent threats are hollow (as I really think), they may be doing real harm. The official announce from the Novell side( 2)tells that some open source project as Mono or Evolution, does not infringe Microsoft´s patents. It could be an important a positive milestone from the legal side. They also says that any software that infringes Microsoft´s patents will be removed from Suse so we will a clearer picture in the near future, but I sure that it will include NTFS drivers. Hmppfff, speculations speculations speculations - NTFS is part of the Linux Kernel (or at least it's on its way there), if MS wants to sue someone they should sue the developer of this module. The NTFS and FAT file systems are covered by several patents or are patent pending in the US( not in most of the world including Europe). The coverage of these patents include the files systems themselves, algorithms and their implementations. Once the patent is granted they can sue every one who sells, distribute or use Microsoft´s inventions without their authorization. Developers cannot be sued in most of the cases even if they copy an invention step by step. They are covered by the fair use of testing and evaluation. Patents are different from copyrights. For example, researches at universities constantly¨ infringe¨ patents for their investigation purposes and nobody can sue them. The NTFS driver CAN'T be both GPL-compliant and infringe on MS's patents. True. If Suse removes NTFS from their kernels then users will either move away to other distros (if they need it at all) or compile their own kernels. No if they are at the US and fear to be sued. And the main point again - if there are any MS patents being infringed on then MS can sue without this agreement. In the real world Microsoft can stop big vendors and distributions channels by suing them, but for several reasons, it is much harder to make money from that. Also, an aggressive lawsuit campaign could have a global negative impact in sells and other global issues. ( 2) http://dw.com.com/redir?destUrl=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.novell.com%2Flinux %2Fmicrosoft% 2Ffaq_opensource.htmlsiteId=22oId=2100-3513-6133361ontId=3513lop= nl.ex Have you read this QA? It rebuffs all the claims raised by you and Oron so far - they will NOT put patented code into their product, They not, but Microsoft maybe yes. they were NOT threatened by MS, they do NOT admit to any patent infringement in the past, they will NOT break Mono's ability to be incorporated by other distributions. Effectively, I read the link and it is what I tried to say. My English was maybe no clear enough. Thanks for the point. From reading this link (have you read it?) I get the impression that Novell have approached MS to get an agreement to support the new MS Office file format on its systems (the new format is covered by some stupid patents) and got this agreement from MS, only maybe MS's lawyers managed to convolute the document so much that it got some people confused and now Novell is painted as a traitor by the community and have to apologize for its actions simply because they are conceived to be wrong. Totally possible. My take - let's wait and see what Moglen and co. have to say once they see the full contract (so far even he
Re: Novell and Microsoft
El sáb, 11-11-2006 a las 20:16 +0200, Oron Peled escribió: Julian Daich said that some 300M$ is too much money for a patent agreement because suing Linux companies won't get you as much money. He is just doing the wrong math: * The growth of the Linux market does a lot more damage to MS. Slowing the penetration of Linux is a must for MS. Using FUD like only the customers of that Linux company have legality assurance is one way to help them. And in this case, the way for Microsoft to get back their 348M$ is having a sales or distribution agreement with such Linux company. * Sabotaging ODF is also critical for MS. Otherwise, it has the potential to damage the biggest MS cache-cow. Novel is helping them to spread their alternative and cast a shadow on ODF acceptance. It is also a distribution agreement about a Microsoft format. In both cases the money comes from sales after a sales or distribution agreement but not directly from patent lawsuits. So effectively I think it is more than just a patent agreement. We'll have to wait and see about that Sure. Let's wait for the Vista to clear ;-) -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Low end display card
El dom, 12-11-2006 a las 15:17 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson escribió: On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 02:56:42PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: NVidia on the other hand has very good and stable 3D under XFree/Xorg, although the drivers are closed source if you care about this issue. I have NVidia based cards running on several Linux servers and they all work fine. Both the Fedora (core 4 and now 5) and Debian distributions of X include a freeware driver for them. It's not as good as the closed source versions that NVidia provides, but it's good enough. If you don't mind the closed source drivers, NVidia provides excelent support for their cards under Linux. Debians, most rpm and other distributions also have ready and easy to install packages for Nvidia and also for ATI graphic card proprietary drivers. By the way, if you are looking for a cheap solution and you are near Tel Aviv, you can pick an used graphic card at the Yaffa´s market for 30- 50 nis. They usually have Nvidia, ATI, Intel or Savage graphic cards with 32- 64 MB of RAM. Julian Geoff. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novell and Microsoft
El dom, 12-11-2006 a las 21:02 +0200, Oron Peled escribió: This is just an example of a company that abused the patent system for years. It opponents were not RedHat, Suse or some IGLU members, but some pretty big corporates (Infineon, Hyundai, etc.) and still, it managed to manipulate them for some 6 years in a very lucrative market. Keep in mind also that companies as Novell, Red Hat, IBM, Sun, etc. also have a huge number of patents to fire over Microsoft if they are seriously threatened. I don´t know if it was the case with Rambus. So, who knows? On what grounds are you trying to enumerate the patents in NTFS (zero as you said), FAT or .NET? What MS said in the PR? Some good assurances indeed... By the way, big corporations as Microsoft tend to hide the actual purposes of their IP. You usually will not found terms as operating system, file system or GUI but much mor ambiguous and general ones. Sometimes the patent examiners are smart enough to discover the purposes of a patent application and to include these terms in the patent classification. In addition sometimes these patents are applied by dummies bodies, institutions or employers whose names are different of the actual corporation which owns or applies for a patent. Thus, to perform a serious research to know is Microsoft have or not a granted patent or a patent application in the pipeline is a matter of days of work. I just choose the NTFS and FAT cases because they were discussed at Slahsdot( 1), but it will better to wait and see if it will be a real threat. ( 1)http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/08/0244242from=rss I have nothing against Novel and they did contribute many good things to Linux and FOSS in general. They have just made themselves another pawn in MS powerplay. This pawn will be sacrificed by MS when the time is right for them (as all the previous had). Until than I intend to do as you suggested -- wait and see -- But I'll do it from a safer distance... no Novel advertised technologies... -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Novell and Microsoft
, it is. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but That's funny ... -- Isaac Asimov To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: There is no right to remain silent
El dom, 05-11-2006 a las 15:24 +0200, Ira Abramov escribió: Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sun, 05 Nov: On Sun, Nov 05, 2006, Uri (Adam Hofshi) wrote about Re: There is no right to remain silent: Dear Philip Zimmermann, Uri, why do you think that we at Linux-il are interested in what you wrote to Philip Zimmerman? I never got that Email you are all answering, but can you please do it off list? It seems that Uri was banned from the list( he was warned, I recall), but somehow the response of PZ made Uriś address allowed again by the server. Could the administrator´s list, please, explain Uri why he has the felling that his messages are stopped by servers? I can filter Uri´s messages, but not all the answer of other members which are also not related with Linux or OSS. I think that we already helped Uri answering his technical questions, but it is not the place to discuss his ideas or make suggestions about him. Julian Uri seems to be going through some emotional breakdown or paranoid attack, he should just be blocked out of the list for the time being and be allowed to sort it out with his therapist. this is doing no good to the list otherwise, so please stop answering him... -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Contact number of Uri Even Chen?
By the way, if we talk about Uri´s stuff... http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/02/1513239 El vie, 03-11-2006 a las 08:17 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I'm trying to reach Uri Even Chen who keeps sending me his paranoid spam messages It's not spam unless you don't know the guy. Paranoid it is, though. and including my e-mail address on CC for any spambot to harvest It is amazing to me how someone who wants to solicit my help regarding his privacy and rights can disrespect mine so much. Maybe it is spam, after all. (and just generally associating myself with this nut case). Yes, well. I tried to call the numbers mentioned in speedy.net's WHOIS records (+972.97715013, +972.97716721) but the first reaches a voice mailbox (I left a message) and the second is a FAX (I'll send a fax too). Email wasn't effective either so far. His resume lists the same number: Hagefen 35 Raanana43550 Israel Home:+972-9-7715013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uri.co.il/ Does anyone here have a reliable phone number where I can reach him and ask him to remove me from his spam list? I doubt he'll honor it. I'm open to being pleasantly surprised, however. Thanks, --Amos Shachar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slashdot | Microsoft to Announce Linux Partnership
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Re: offtopic: BitTorrent Traffic shaping tricks by Israeli ISP's?
El sáb, 28-10-2006 a las 03:54 +0200, Oded Arbel escribió: On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 02:34 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I have tried the same test with 80 different torrent files, be it legal stuff and illegal stuff (movies, episodes etc), it's almost always the same result: the download is about 70-90% slower than the US machine. My ISP: Netvision. So, does anyone knows if Netvision and/or other ISP's are doing some serious bandwidth tricks? if so, is there a way to bypass it (and still use bittorrent)? All the major ISPs have dedicated services for file-sharing protocols, which include transparent proxying and caching. That being said, that should not prevent you from reaching a download rate much higher then 10K/sec. I often clock legal downloads at over 80K, and some peek at over 150K - this is using connections through Actcom, Bezeq-Int, 012.net and Barak - but not Netvision, though I'd be surprised to find it different for a Netvision customer. It could to be true also for Netvision. I´m connected trough them and usually I can download legal torrents( specially from sites that only allow downloads to register users) at a speed that overcomes 100K/ s while other stuff at 4 K/ s and rarely overcomes the 20 K/ s. I always though that it was because you legal torrents involve servers most of the time between their sources, but other torrents come from private machines with limited upload rate. J Just a note - I'm sure that you are aware that on a such a constrained upstream, you need to tightly control your upload - if you saturate your upstream you are going to seriously hurt your downstream bandwidth. On a 96KBits up, I recommend limiting upload to 6KBytes/sec and no more. I don't know how likely is that, but due to the way P2P network are distributed, and the larger number of users in north America, you might see the effect of too much upload: your US system isn't taxed for upload because of much more attractive seeders close by, while your Israeli system is asked to upload more often and more data because of the lack of high speed seeders in the locality. -- Oded ::.. The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation problems
El mié, 18-10-2006 a las 09:32 +0200, David Suna escribió: Yes I tried installing each distribution more than once with the same results. Try also with Knoppix 5.0 or higher it is excellent to detect and check hardware configuration at booting. If it successfully boots to the graphical mode, then you can also easily check sound and that all your drives appear and if they are writuable. You also may check that the disks´ cables( IDE, SATA) and jumpers are well configured and connected and how they appear at the BIOS. Try different configurations. It does matter. Your Etch problem sounds like that. David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Omer Zak wrote: On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 08:55 +0200, David Suna wrote: I just purchased a new machine and I have been having a very frustrating time installing linux on it. I have tried installing ubuntu workstation, ubuntu server and debian etch all without success but with different failures. The machine is a Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz with a Gigabyte 945GZ motherboard. It has 1GB of DDR2 RAM, a 250 GB SATA hard disk and a generic DVD RW combo. I am using the onboard video and LAN with an additional network card in the box. Below are details of the errors that I get. I don't know how to tell if this is a hardware compatibility issue, broken hardware, bad CDs or the phase of the moon. Any help would be much appreciated. The thing, which I notice is that different distributions have completely different problems. Did you try to install the same distribution twice, at different times, to see if the reported errors get reproduced? If they are different, then I would suspect overheating. Then, try to rule out shorts (such as a fallen screw) and overheating. Then suspect defective motherboard and/or memory chips. For general troubleshooting advice: http://www.troubleshooters.com/ --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indexing and search engine for website
El dom, 15-10-2006 a las 11:12 +0200, Danny L escribió: google? The Google API is not open source or free software. It is proprietary. Elazar Leibovich wrote: Can anyone recommend an opensource website-search engine one can index his website and add a search capability to it with it? The most important thing for me is ease of use, minimum software requirements (that's why java-lucene doesn't really shines) the quality and speed of the search are less relevant, there's a small amount of traffic to the website. Thanks Elazar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indexing and search engine for website
El dom, 15-10-2006 a las 11:59 +0200, Danny L escribió: not the API - google your own web site. You can freely build up a search field which links to Google search in xyy.org, but you cannot get the indexing, furthermore it will be up to Google policies and existence. Julian Daich wrote: El dom, 15-10-2006 a las 11:12 +0200, Danny L escribió: google? The Google API is not open source or free software. It is proprietary. Elazar Leibovich wrote: Can anyone recommend an opensource website-search engine one can index his website and add a search capability to it with it? The most important thing for me is ease of use, minimum software requirements (that's why java-lucene doesn't really shines) the quality and speed of the search are less relevant, there's a small amount of traffic to the website. Thanks Elazar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli ADSL dialers and privacy
El vie, 13-10-2006 a las 16:01 +0200, guy keren escribió: from customer support point of view, it is easier to give people CDs that they just need to install, then give them written instructions. The provided written instructions of how to run and configure the CD are not simpler than open your browser and type 138.0.0.10 in the address bar. The booklet also does not include in its 10 pages alternative instructions for whose that run Linux, Mac, have not CD drive or older PC that cannot run the dialer. Furthermore, their request of 233MHz of minimal CPU speed not seem to be not logical for any firmware of software dialer which is supposed to do less work than a old phone modem. Maybe is only a bad after aftertaste of my Windows ages, but I don´t trust these CDs. if you give the average user written instructions, they are likely to make a mistake. --guy On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 09:13 +0200, Julian Daich wrote: El jue, 12-10-2006 a las 00:17 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson escribió: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:43:57PM +0200, Julian Daich wrote: This week I have the opportunity to connect a new Linux PC to the Internet with Bezeq´s ADSL via an Adtech( or whatever it is called) 600 modem/ ruter. I was surprised to find that there are not instructions of how to set the ruter, instead they( Bezeq) give you a CD with a program for Window to configure a dialer and a booklet of how to install and configure that program which in fact is more complicate that doing 138.0.0.10 from your browser from any OS and set Admin as username and password as I did to configure the ruter. After examining the booklet with more detail I found within the technical requirements to have an at least 233Mhz which I suspect is to much requirement for a simple dialer. I´m trying to understand why Bezeq try to force users to use these dialers since it is more complicate to users, uses too much computer resources, costs more paper and CDs to Bezeq and from the Bezeq side there is not difference in resources if it is the modem or the PC what diales. By law, BEZEQ can not sell you access to the Internet. All they can sell you is access to their public data network which uses the ATM protocol. I have been told, but can not verify, that the ATM network realy has no speed or access limitations, you can open a virtual connection to anyone that can receive it. I do know that at one time, and they may still do, every ISP had a guest user id that allowed you to access their network without being a subscriber. The rates were very high, IMHO only usefull if you wanted to spend a few minutes testing out an ISP or if you wanted to connect to another ISP to forward that must-go-out email when yours was down. What you call a modem is really an ethernet to ATM proctol converter or packet assembler/disassmbler or PAD. Therefore they have to use a VPN aka tunnel to connect you directly with your ISP. The ISP then can regulate your data rates and access. I understand, and maybe I was not so clear with my posting. My question is why Bezeq gives you a CD with a dialer instead to teach you to configure the VPN which resides inside the little blackbox( aka modem or ruter) which is quite easier and straightforward to do. In fact, at least for the Adtech modem, you do not need the CD program which Bezeq calls¨ dialer¨. Is for what it makes me suspect that maybe this program is more than a dialer. J HOT uses the same mechanism to connect their customers, but with an added twist. Routers made for the U.S. market assume that the gateway is the IP address of both the IP gateway off of the local segment and the tunneling host. In Israel they are seperate and most routers sold in the U.S. will not work on HOT's network. There is a way around it, since HOT's network is IP over token ring, they can set up your connection so that all packets from your cable modem go to your ISP, allowing you a direct DHCP connection. Some ISPs do it, some won't, some charge for it, all require you to talk to many customer service people before you find one that understands what you want. :-) In the rest of the world, the company that sells you your xDSL service is also your ISP, so a VPN/tunnel is not needed. Geoff. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli ADSL dialers and privacy
El vie, 13-10-2006 a las 22:37 +0200, Micha Feigin escribió: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:13:04 +0200 Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El jue, 12-10-2006 a las 00:17 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson escribió: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:43:57PM +0200, Julian Daich wrote: This week I have the opportunity to connect a new Linux PC to the Internet with Bezeq´s ADSL via an Adtech( or whatever it is called) 600 modem/ ruter. I was surprised to find that there are not instructions of how to set the ruter, instead they( Bezeq) give you a CD with a program for Window to configure a dialer and a booklet of how to install and configure that program which in fact is more complicate that doing 138.0.0.10 from your browser from any OS and set Admin as username and password as I did to configure the ruter. After examining the booklet with more detail I found within the technical requirements to have an at least 233Mhz which I suspect is to much requirement for a simple dialer. I´m trying to understand why Bezeq try to force users to use these dialers since it is more complicate to users, uses too much computer resources, costs more paper and CDs to Bezeq and from the Bezeq side there is not difference in resources if it is the modem or the PC what diales. By law, BEZEQ can not sell you access to the Internet. All they can sell you is access to their public data network which uses the ATM protocol. I have been told, but can not verify, that the ATM network realy has no speed or access limitations, you can open a virtual connection to anyone that can receive it. I do know that at one time, and they may still do, every ISP had a guest user id that allowed you to access their network without being a subscriber. The rates were very high, IMHO only usefull if you wanted to spend a few minutes testing out an ISP or if you wanted to connect to another ISP to forward that must-go-out email when yours was down. What you call a modem is really an ethernet to ATM proctol converter or packet assembler/disassmbler or PAD. Therefore they have to use a VPN aka tunnel to connect you directly with your ISP. The ISP then can regulate your data rates and access. I understand, and maybe I was not so clear with my posting. My question is why Bezeq gives you a CD with a dialer instead to teach you to configure the VPN which resides inside the little blackbox( aka modem or ruter) which is quite easier and straightforward to do. In fact, at least for the Adtech modem, you do not need the CD program which Bezeq calls¨ dialer¨. Is for what it makes me suspect that maybe this program is more than a dialer. This way they can give the same instructions to everyone regardless of the modem. It also translates network errors for the help-desk (I once gave them the verbal error linux gave me and they were stomped since it was not the numer that they use to look up in the book which tells them how to guide you) Now it makes sense. My problem is that when I see those CDs I recall the CDs which come with every piece of hardware intended for Windows( Lexmark and most webcams are the champions). These¨ drivers¨ usually installs heavy programs docked in your system tray with a bunch of security holes, features that nobody needs and report every single thing that you do to their mother company. J HOT uses the same mechanism to connect their customers, but with an added twist. Routers made for the U.S. market assume that the gateway is the IP address of both the IP gateway off of the local segment and the tunneling host. In Israel they are seperate and most routers sold in the U.S. will not work on HOT's network. There is a way around it, since HOT's network is IP over token ring, they can set up your connection so that all packets from your cable modem go to your ISP, allowing you a direct DHCP connection. Some ISPs do it, some won't, some charge for it, all require you to talk to many customer service people before you find one that understands what you want. :-) In the rest of the world, the company that sells you your xDSL service is also your ISP, so a VPN/tunnel is not needed. Geoff. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli ADSL dialers and privacy
El jue, 12-10-2006 a las 00:17 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson escribió: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:43:57PM +0200, Julian Daich wrote: This week I have the opportunity to connect a new Linux PC to the Internet with Bezeq´s ADSL via an Adtech( or whatever it is called) 600 modem/ ruter. I was surprised to find that there are not instructions of how to set the ruter, instead they( Bezeq) give you a CD with a program for Window to configure a dialer and a booklet of how to install and configure that program which in fact is more complicate that doing 138.0.0.10 from your browser from any OS and set Admin as username and password as I did to configure the ruter. After examining the booklet with more detail I found within the technical requirements to have an at least 233Mhz which I suspect is to much requirement for a simple dialer. I´m trying to understand why Bezeq try to force users to use these dialers since it is more complicate to users, uses too much computer resources, costs more paper and CDs to Bezeq and from the Bezeq side there is not difference in resources if it is the modem or the PC what diales. By law, BEZEQ can not sell you access to the Internet. All they can sell you is access to their public data network which uses the ATM protocol. I have been told, but can not verify, that the ATM network realy has no speed or access limitations, you can open a virtual connection to anyone that can receive it. I do know that at one time, and they may still do, every ISP had a guest user id that allowed you to access their network without being a subscriber. The rates were very high, IMHO only usefull if you wanted to spend a few minutes testing out an ISP or if you wanted to connect to another ISP to forward that must-go-out email when yours was down. What you call a modem is really an ethernet to ATM proctol converter or packet assembler/disassmbler or PAD. Therefore they have to use a VPN aka tunnel to connect you directly with your ISP. The ISP then can regulate your data rates and access. I understand, and maybe I was not so clear with my posting. My question is why Bezeq gives you a CD with a dialer instead to teach you to configure the VPN which resides inside the little blackbox( aka modem or ruter) which is quite easier and straightforward to do. In fact, at least for the Adtech modem, you do not need the CD program which Bezeq calls¨ dialer¨. Is for what it makes me suspect that maybe this program is more than a dialer. J HOT uses the same mechanism to connect their customers, but with an added twist. Routers made for the U.S. market assume that the gateway is the IP address of both the IP gateway off of the local segment and the tunneling host. In Israel they are seperate and most routers sold in the U.S. will not work on HOT's network. There is a way around it, since HOT's network is IP over token ring, they can set up your connection so that all packets from your cable modem go to your ISP, allowing you a direct DHCP connection. Some ISPs do it, some won't, some charge for it, all require you to talk to many customer service people before you find one that understands what you want. :-) In the rest of the world, the company that sells you your xDSL service is also your ISP, so a VPN/tunnel is not needed. Geoff. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Somebody from Zfat
Hi all, Somebody who lives near Zfat is needed for helping and teaching a 64 years old person to operate her PC with Xububtu installed. In principle, she needs the PC for writing documents with Oo, read e- mail and surfing the web and manage documents. I think a couple of times will be enough. Eventual technical support will be also paid. If interested call me at 03- 5189549 or 054- 6900076 Thank you, -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli ADSL dialers and privacy
Hi all, This week I have the opportunity to connect a new Linux PC to the Internet with Bezeq´s ADSL via an Adtech( or whatever it is called) 600 modem/ ruter. I was surprised to find that there are not instructions of how to set the ruter, instead they( Bezeq) give you a CD with a program for Window to configure a dialer and a booklet of how to install and configure that program which in fact is more complicate that doing 138.0.0.10 from your browser from any OS and set Admin as username and password as I did to configure the ruter. After examining the booklet with more detail I found within the technical requirements to have an at least 233Mhz which I suspect is to much requirement for a simple dialer. I´m trying to understand why Bezeq try to force users to use these dialers since it is more complicate to users, uses too much computer resources, costs more paper and CDs to Bezeq and from the Bezeq side there is not difference in resources if it is the modem or the PC what diales. Is there maybe an additional factor that I´m not considering which can concern security or privacy issues? Are these dialers free of spyware? -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up a Yahoo account in Kmail[ SOLVED].
El jue, 28-09-2006 a las 13:54 -0400, Tzafrir Cohen escribió: On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 07:40:48AM +0300, Julian Daich wrote: Hi all, Last week I tried to set up a Yahoo mail account in Kmail, but it failed to sign in. After some search at Yahoo, I found that Yahoo mail is not free any more and you must pay for POP access as it was a couple of years ago. The Yahoo´s native web interface Hebrew support is terrible! It is possible any way to gain free POP access from Yahoo? I know for example, that it is possible to do that in Hotmail using Thuntherbird. Yahoo does not provide a standard protocol to access its mailboxes. One alternative to consider, which is somewhat similar to the old pop3 access, is the program fetchyahoo. It is a fetchmail for Yahho's webmail. That is: will fetch the mail from the Yahoo inbox to your local mail system. It requieres some configuration, but it worked fine with Kmail. Fetchyahoo is also included within the *ubuntu official repositories. I found later, that there is an extension for Thunderbird called Webmail which is more straightforward to configure. Thanks, J Then configure KMail to read mail from the local spool. -- Tzafrir -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up a Yahoo account in Kmail.
El jue, 28-09-2006 a las 12:39 +0300, Oded Arbel escribió: I'm not sure what are you implying to - do you mean to say that MSN are bumbleheads and don't really require you to sign up for POP3 access to Hotmail, they just pretend that you need to pay them money ? I would be inclined to believe that. Still - if you can't log in to Yahoo! using POP3 and the Yahoo! website says that you have to pay to do that, I would think that this sounds reasonable and I wouldn't expect Yahoo! to support the same unfeature set that Hotmail sports. POP3 access from Yahoo! was free at least 6 months ago! I set up my cousin account in Outlook and other one for a friend in Thuntherbird under Windows. They only requested permission to add adds to the text of the sent mails. None the less, there are several applications, free and otherwise that emulate POP3 access for your desktop e-mail client. The Google search webmail proxy pop3 yahoo It sound cool. I´ll keep in touch. J is probably something that you want to run, and lo and behold - the first hit is something that explains your reference above to thunderbird supposedly allowing users to circumvent Hotmail's insistence on being paid for POP3. ;-) -- Oded ::.. Those are awfully big 'if's, said Valentine. You forget, said Olhado. We start from the premise that wishing makes it so. -- Xenocide / Orson Scott Card -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up a cable modem under linux (barak)
Forget the l2tp set up. Call to Barak and request a direct connection. They do that if you have any non Windows PC. The formal procedure is the request from Barak and they will call to Hot to make the change. If the change does not occur in a couple of hours, call again to any of the companies and request a conference calling, It sounds as a headache, but is easier and better than trying to set a l2tp. At the long time it consumes less resources from you and your PC:) Good Luck, Julian El jue, 28-09-2006 a las 03:17 +0300, Micha Feigin escribió: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:29:09 + (UTC) Shaul karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try http://tx.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp_he.html I couldn't find any l2tp client for debian (l2tpd seems to be a server and not a client). One of the points that are mentioned there is that for debian you are looking for pptp-linux. which is a pptp client and not l2tp client, but also from that article I managed to iron the creases out of my pptp setup and get it working. I found that package without the article btw, just aptitude search pptp = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up a Yahoo account in Kmail.
Hi all, Last week I tried to set up a Yahoo mail account in Kmail, but it failed to sign in. After some search at Yahoo, I found that Yahoo mail is not free any more and you must pay for POP access as it was a couple of years ago. The Yahoo´s native web interface Hebrew support is terrible! It is possible any way to gain free POP access from Yahoo? I know for example, that it is possible to do that in Hotmail using Thuntherbird. Regords, -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux xbox
El vie, 22-09-2006 a las 08:04 +0200, Erez D escribió: hi i'm looking for a cheap and quiet platform to run linux on I've heard Xbox is one. and there is debian for Xbox (called xebian) How much is cheap for a Xbox? You can get a Via or AMD based PCs for less than 1000 nis @zap.co.il and replace the fans for less than 100 nis as Amos pointed. You just have to be careful about the hardware configuration and avoid the SiS graphic cards, for example, which does not support 3D acceleration in Linux. J 1. does anyone have experiance with it ? (and can help me if i get into trouble) 2. is it really quiet (i know it has a fan), can i leave the box running at night and still be able to sleep ? thanks erez. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: קוד פתוח אלק
El vie, 22-09-2006 a las 09:56 +0200, Danny L escribió: Ram You're totally right. www.linux-org.il DOES look like a piece of shit. Sure. The site simply does not exist. Did you mean www.linux.org.il, maybe? There is something cultural going on here - like Yerushalmim wearing socks and sandals - Why, did you also study at Givat Ram? Cheers, Julian like , we dont want to look to professional or people might think we're not nerdy enough. Let's not talk about management and business issues, because people may confuse us with Microsoft. Get with the agenda guys. OSS in the US and Europe is stylish and PC. Maayan, - for $30 and 30' work you can buy a template and setup a Joomla site. It will look 100x better than linux-org.il - if you have any doubt - see www.software.co.il Just my two cents Ktiva Ve'Chatima Tova Maayan Eshed wrote: זה רק מוכיח את הכוח של יזמה חפשית פרטית. כל הכבוד לפרטיים! חבל מאוד שיצא ככה בעמותה. אולי נעשה אאוט סורסינג על האתר לאחד הפרטיים המצויינים? או כדי לא לגרום לבעיות *בניהם* נשאיר מאגר מאמרים ותוכן שהם יכולים לשקף בפורמט שלהם (כן, תהייה בעיית עודף וכפילויות בחיפוש בגוגל וכו)? אפילו אם רוחב הפס יגיע משרת העמותה. זה לא יפתור בעית משחקי כוחות אבל בכל מקרה יעזור לפעילות באתר להראות פחות ישנה. עמותה גם לא חייבת להיות פורטל חדשות. עניינה ממילא להיות גוף חוקי לכל מטרה שהקהילה שלנו עשוייה להצטרך (כמו מימון ויצוג ) כך שרוב מה שצריך שם זה פרטים להתקשרות והצטרפות, שמות חברי הועד, (תקצירי פרוטוקולים?) ודוח פעילות ( כולל תאריך עדכון...) שלה . כל השאר זה אקסטרה מבורך ויכול לבוא בתור לינקים לפורטלים הקיימים או ארכיב בצד ולא מוצג כתוכן מעודכן בשוטף. לאחר שאמרתי כל זאת - אנא זכור שגם לאתרי הפינגווין וווטסאפ לקח זמן להמריא ולצבור קוראים ומאמרים. שנה טובה לכל הפינגווינים באשר הם מעין On 9/20/06, *Ram-on Agmon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: וואלה, כשאני חושב על כל המאמצים שאנשים משקיעים כאן באופן פרטי כדי לקדם את הקוד הפתוח, העמותה הזו נראית יותר ויותר כמכשול לקוד הפתוח בישראל. ראיתם את האתר של רוכבי האופניים? http://www.bike.org.il/ את העמותה של המדע הבדיוני? http://www.sf-f.org.il/index.php3 לא רק שהם נראים פי אלף יותר טוב מהאתר של העמותה ,הם גם כוללים כל מיני טכנולוגיות מתקדמות כמו רישום באינטרנט, פורומים ועוד כל מיני דברים שבעמותת המקור לקידום הקוד הפתוח עדיין לא החליטו כיצד אפשר ליישם. ושלא תבינו לא נכון, האתרים שלהם בנויים ב- php. גם הם מקדמים את הדרך שלהם, אבל כנראה שאצלם האגו הוא לא המרכיב העיקרי. שהתחרות היא לא מי כותב יותר בפורומים אלא מי עושה יותר. וככה זה גם נראה. לו אני עיתונאי הרוצה לסקר את הקוד הפתוח בארץ, הרושם הראשוני שהייתי מקבל זה שמיקרוסופט מנהלת את האתר. מדברים כאן על טכנולוגיה בזמן שהעמוד הראשון מדבר על החדשות בשנת 2005. על איזה קידמה טכנולוגית גוף כמו עמותת המקור מדבר אם הוא בעצמו לא סומך על הטכנולוגיות שהוא רוצה לקדם. אם הטענות כאן שהטכנולוגיות לא מספיק בטוחות בשביל האתר של העמותה. אז בשביל מי הן כן מספיק בטוחות? והתמונה נראית עוד יותר עגומה כאשר בודקים פרוייקטים פרטים בתחום. whatsup ולינמגזין עושים בדיוק את מה שעמותת המקור היתה צריכה לעשות. אבל משום מה, הם כן הצליחו להרים אתר עם פורמים ואפילו שליחת ידיעות. ממש הישג טכנולוגי. בנתיים, האתר של העמותה נראה כמו אתר פרויקט סיום כיתה י' לא מוצלח מדי. כפי שזה נראה כיום, האתר של עמותת המקור לא רק שלא עוזר לקדם את הקוד, הוא פשוט מזיק לעניין. אני מציע להעלות דף אחד של html עם הפניות לפרויקטים אחרים, של אנשים שמסוגלים גם לעשות. וואלה, אני אפילו מוכן לתחזק את הדף הבודד הזה. מה שמוזר, שכאשר מתנדבים שאינם קשורים לוועד עושים משהו, אז הדברים נראים נהדר. כמו האירגון של אוגוסט פינגויין, שפתאום נמצא לו מקום לויקי ואתר חמוד. רם-און. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
I don´t know about servers, but I have experience on Desktop using. I recommend Debian Etch. It is stable, simple to use and install and it has a bunch of software well actualized with many maintainers. It also has a lot of both community and private support. However, Etch is still on Beta until December and the current Debian stable, sagger, is not so actualized. I use Debian in my laptop. Ubuntu is very similar to Etch and it supposed to be simpler to use and install, also it comes in a single CD, but it shows a much poorer performance than Debian does. I use Fedora, the¨ free¨ Red Hat, at home and I do not recommend it, at least for desktop use. Short life span, few programs or not so actualized and poor performance. Julian El jue, 21-09-2006 a las 10:04 +0300, David Suna escribió: I am purchasing a new computer and will be setting it up from scratch. Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) I would like to get recommendations for what would be the best distribution for my needs. This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup. It will provide the following services: Samba Apache PHP MySQL Backup storage NAT + firewall connecting via ADSL to actcom dosemu The load on the machine will not be heavy. There will be four or five other machines (mainly Windows) connecting to the Internet via this machine and sharing files via Samba. In the future I hope to be adding other Linux workstations to the network as well. The main criteria for me is that the system should just work and be easy to maintain. On my current server I am still running RedHat 9. After having overcome the initial setup problems with it I have been able to basically just ignore it and it keeps working. Thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera[ Concluded]
El mié, 20-09-2006 a las 14:40 +1000, Amos Shapira escribió: On 20/09/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:19:54PM +0300, Julian Daich wrote: 1) frequent security patches, Frequent? Not that bad. You just install the package from your package manager and forget about it. Why maintain a separate FireFox installation? Actually it's some annoyance I noticed last week - Firefox just came out with 1.5.0.7 and normally when I used a privately installed package it would just pick such updates automatically but since I started using Debian Etch's package it doesn't pick up the update and still stays at 1.5.0.6. The Help-Check for Updates option is disabled (maybe I should run it as root to enable it?). I suppose that a private 1.5.0.7 should be considered more secure than a debian-maintained 1.5.0.6 but here we are - either install my own private Firefox from mozilla.org or wait for Debian to update its package. 2) its extensions( they are very useful in fact, but not for somebody who is not technically skilled as the person that I trying to help) and The proper extension, once set up, will help even a non-technical user... e.g. the Haaretz and Ynet must-have extensions, SessionSaver (made pretty obsolete by FF 2) and others which the user doesn't have to do anything in order to take advantage of. There are few extensions that I love and install as mandatories at any Firefox instalation. They are TabMix plus, Noscript, Flasgot, Flashblock, GreaseMonkey, Search WP and a lot more. But more extensions are more options that sometimes confuse certain users that most of the time will not take advantage of them, In my opinion, adding an additional browser will have a negative impact in a non skilled user as ambiguas or double program association with many KDE applications, two sets of favosites and the user will be confused about the historial or what he did with which browser. In fact, the simplest users( in this case my sister) just want to click a link or open an url and see the page and its functionality properly and Firefox and for what I read Opera, cannot add no value to Konqueror in that. I think that the combination Konqueror/ IE( as backup) is optimal for simple users that will do extensive use of Israeli sites. J PS - FF2's spell checker is a godsend. --Amos -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera
Thank you Avraham and Oded. El mar, 19-09-2006 a las 02:21 +0300, Oded Arbel escribió: On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 21:13 +0300, Julian Daich wrote: Hi all, A pooling question. Do you have any experience on Opera? I'm using Opera 9 from time to time. I have used older versions of Opera browser in the past. It does improve the surfing performance at the Israeli websites? It haves any advantage over Konqueror? I can't say that it does - I'm not using Opera 9 to browse Israeli sites, but from a cursory examination I did just now it looks ok, though definitely not better then Konqueror or Firefox. Opera 8 was a disaster. It is not for me but for a newbie who is suffering from the Israeli Websites´ Microsoft Disease. I´m thinking to suggest trying Opera for web browsing, but I will prefer to have a well based argument before. While I like Konqueror as a browser (almost as much as I like its file management capabilities), I feel that Firefox provides a more solid browsing experience, and I recommend using it for any purpose. There are some specific badly written websites (some of them Israeli) which may have some features missing or working improperly on Firefox and using these sites with Konqueror may or may not allow you to access some of these missing features - but I don't have concrete examples at the moment and I suggest that these issues be solved on a site-to-site basis. I personally use de combination Firefox/ IE under Wine but I found that Konqueror was much more powerful in viewing Israeli sites. Since the major advantages that I found in Firefox are the 1) frequent security patches, 2) its extensions( they are very useful in fact, but not for somebody who is not technically skilled as the person that I trying to help) and 3) the integration with other no- KDE applications, I will not recommend to her to install neither Firefox or Opera. Regards, Julian -- Oded ::.. Dawson : Like all great romantics, Shakespeare realized love was a lot more likely to end with a bunch of dead Danish people than with a kiss. -- from 'Dawson's Creek' -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Opera
Hi all, A pooling question. Do you have any experience on Opera? It does improve the surfing performance at the Israeli websites? It haves any advantage over Konqueror? It is not for me but for a newbie who is suffering from the Israeli Websites´ Microsoft Disease. I´m thinking to suggest trying Opera for web browsing, but I will prefer to have a well based argument before. Thank you, J -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: paying Bituach Leumi using Firefox
El vie, 15-09-2006 a las 22:28 +0300, Shachar Shemesh escribió: Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Nope, Mac isn't an option for IE- IE for Mac is dead, isn't available for download, and never supported Hebrew or Active-X anyway. (see here for more info: http://www.xslf.com/archives/000321.html ) But now you can run the Windows IE on Intel macs using Wine.. And again you will need a MS Windows license to use IE or pay for CrossOver Office, but in this case I don know what Microsoft stipulates for using IE for W2000 or higher. J Shachar -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: paying Bituach Leumi using Firefox
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:20 +0300, Gabor Szabo escribió: I called 02-6463252 the number on the main page of that site. A nice guy called Yossi answered me. After a quick trial and error he asked me about my browser and then explained to me that the government sites are built by Microsoft and they support IE only (5.5 and above). It is legal? i mind there are not antitrust laws or laws that protect the citizens against these kind of private interests in Israel? J He also told me I can write to Yossi Serri Pniot HaTzibur Sderot Weizman 13 Jerusalem 91909 (I am sorry if I made a typo in his name) There also seem to be a web form from http://www.btl.gov.il/ 'Pniot HaTzibur' to submit questions. Gabor On 9/14/06, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just tried to pay Bituach Leumi via their web interface. BankHaPolaim has this option to pay your companies taxes via their web interface. As the first step they redirected me to a web site of the government that does not seem to work in Firefox. This is the page I was redirected to: https://b2b.btl.gov.il/B2B/pay.asp I also tried to look at their home page http://b2b.btl.gov.il/ Non of the things that say click here work. not even the one that sais click here if you found a problem. Can someone confirm it and/or let me know about a workaround? Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: paying Bituach Leumi using Firefox
A quick workaround (while far from perfect) might be to use: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html By the way, you will need a MS Winows license to legally use IE. -- - Josh = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
