Re: Distribution recommendation
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:49:18AM +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: --=-uEA6EYo52oxs/+4ni8Zq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 10:04 +0300, David Suna wrote: I am purchasing a new computer and will be setting it up from scratch. Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) I would like to get recommendations for what would be the best distribution for my needs. This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup. The main criteria for me is that the system should just work and be easy to maintain. Unlike some people, I would recommend going with something rather more modern then Debian stable. The main problem with Debian stable is while it is stable (which is great for serious production work by trained professionals), its is rather old, (Though not as old as RHEL4/CentOS4) -- Tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
On 22/09/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike some people, I would recommend going with something rather more modern then Debian stable. The main problem with Debian stable is while it is stable (which is great for serious production work by trained professionals), its is rather old, has very limited configuration tools for servers (or most anything useful actually) and what it does have is notoriously non-newbie friendly. Then just go for Etch - it's modern, its installation and configuration is automatic (last time I saw Ubuntu's installer it was basically Etch's), it'll recognize most hardware without user intervention, and it's bloody stable. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
I went to the Ubuntu site and they have an option for a server configuration. Anyone know anything about it? Any pointers for a review etc.? Thanks and Shana Tova David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oded Arbel wrote: Ubuntu and a lot of other new and rather interesting and even well done Linux operating system are sadly almost entirely desktop oriented, and while it shouldn't be hard to setup server software on such (assuming you know what you are doing), if you're not going to use them as desktop systems - why bother ? Get something which was designed for the task you have at hand - its not like it costs more. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) On my current server I am still running RedHat 9. So I suggest you to use CentOS - today we have CentOS 4 and in a few months CentOS5, based on RHEL5 will be released. Rgds, Vitaly = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution recommendation
I am purchasing a new computer and will be setting it up from scratch. Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) I would like to get recommendations for what would be the best distribution for my needs. This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup. It will provide the following services: Samba Apache PHP MySQL Backup storage NAT + firewall connecting via ADSL to actcom dosemu The load on the machine will not be heavy. There will be four or five other machines (mainly Windows) connecting to the Internet via this machine and sharing files via Samba. In the future I hope to be adding other Linux workstations to the network as well. The main criteria for me is that the system should just work and be easy to maintain. On my current server I am still running RedHat 9. After having overcome the initial setup problems with it I have been able to basically just ignore it and it keeps working. Thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated. -- David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
David Suna wrote: This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup. It will provide the following services: Server ? Take Debian stable. I'm afraid I won't take Ubuntu for server as they focus on bleeding edge software for desktop while using the Debian infrastructure. -- Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
I don´t know about servers, but I have experience on Desktop using. I recommend Debian Etch. It is stable, simple to use and install and it has a bunch of software well actualized with many maintainers. It also has a lot of both community and private support. However, Etch is still on Beta until December and the current Debian stable, sagger, is not so actualized. I use Debian in my laptop. Ubuntu is very similar to Etch and it supposed to be simpler to use and install, also it comes in a single CD, but it shows a much poorer performance than Debian does. I use Fedora, the¨ free¨ Red Hat, at home and I do not recommend it, at least for desktop use. Short life span, few programs or not so actualized and poor performance. Julian El jue, 21-09-2006 a las 10:04 +0300, David Suna escribió: I am purchasing a new computer and will be setting it up from scratch. Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) I would like to get recommendations for what would be the best distribution for my needs. This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup. It will provide the following services: Samba Apache PHP MySQL Backup storage NAT + firewall connecting via ADSL to actcom dosemu The load on the machine will not be heavy. There will be four or five other machines (mainly Windows) connecting to the Internet via this machine and sharing files via Samba. In the future I hope to be adding other Linux workstations to the network as well. The main criteria for me is that the system should just work and be easy to maintain. On my current server I am still running RedHat 9. After having overcome the initial setup problems with it I have been able to basically just ignore it and it keeps working. Thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated. -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution recommendation
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On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 10:04 +0300, David Suna wrote:
I am purchasing a new computer and will be setting it up from scratch.
Until now I have been using RedHat releases however I have read a lot
about newer distributions (i.e Ubuntu etc.) I would like to get
recommendations for what would be the best distribution for my needs.
This machine will be an internal server for a SOHO setup.
The main criteria for me is that the system should just work and be
easy to maintain.
Unlike some people, I would recommend going with something rather more
modern then Debian stable. The main problem with Debian stable is while
it is stable (which is great for serious production work by trained
professionals), its is rather old, has very limited configuration tools
for servers (or most anything useful actually) and what it does have is
notoriously non-newbie friendly.
So unless you are already familiar with Debian, and/or like to learn
such stuff and have the time to invest in it (a lot of time - we're not
talking Gentoo here, but to get the stuff you want going - plan on at
least a week where all your free time is invested in setting up the
beast), I would recommend to stay away from that and go with something
which is both modern and mainstream (and not Debian testing/unstable -
which fall under all the categories above {including non-modernism}
except that they're not stable).
My recommendations (in no particular order) would be SuSE (open or
otherwise) - which has great tools although a bit harder to understand
w/o reading the documentation; Fedora - which has rather limited set of
server configuration tools, but IIRC has all the stuff you required in
easy to use and understand GUI tools; and lastly, Mandriva - which has
all the tools you need, all the software you need, is very modern but
their choices of where the stuff you need is located are not always
obvious.
Ubuntu and a lot of other new and rather interesting and even well done
Linux operating system are sadly almost entirely desktop oriented, and
while it shouldn't be hard to setup server software on such (assuming
you know what you are doing), if you're not going to use them as desktop
systems - why bother ? Get something which was designed for the task you
have at hand - its not like it costs more.
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Oded
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Unlike some people, I would recommend going with something rather more modern
then Debian stable. The main problem with Debian stable is while it is stable
(which is great for serious production work by trained professionals), its is
rather old, has very limited configuration tools for servers (or most anything
useful actually) and what it does have is notoriously non-newbie friendly.BR
BR
So unless you are already familiar with Debian, and/or like to learn such stuff
and have the time to invest in it (a lot of time - we're not talking Gentoo
here, but to get the stuff you want going - plan on at least a week where all
your free time is invested in setting up the beast), I would recommend to stay
away from that and go with something which is both modern and mainstream (and
not Debian testing/unstable - which fall under all the categories above
{including non-modernism} except that they're not stable).BR
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My recommendations (in no particular order) would be SuSE (open or otherwise) -
which has great tools although a bit harder to understand w/o reading the
documentation; Fedora - which has rather limited set of server configuration
tools, but IIRC has all the stuff you required in easy to use and understand
GUI tools; and lastly, Mandriva - which has all the tools you need, all the
software you need, is very modern but their choices of where the stuff you need
is located are not always obvious.BR
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