Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Shlomo Solomon shlomo.solo...@gmail.com wrote: I got several replies. Here's a summary of what worked or didn't. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Ori Idan wrote: I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have. Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine. I installed adblock plus, but it didn't solve the problem. CPU use dropped only slightly, but adblock killed all the pictures and the icons at the top of the page (but only some of the flash!!) so YNET was not really usable. On Sunday 28 September 2008, David Ronkin wrote: I had the same issue in Suse. After i installed the Flash blocker it disappeared: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+blockcat=all This did seem to solve the problem, but, although I agree there's to much flash on YNET, killing it all seems to be over-kill. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Boaz Rymland wrote: To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news thingy they use which eats the CPU. I don't think that's true. After installing flash blocker, the scrolling news was also gone. Clicking on the location it usually appears re-enabled the scrolling news and CPU use only went up about 2%. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gal Gur-Arie wrote: If you'r using the extension of the HTML validator then disable it for Ynet it will help. not installed On Sunday 28 September 2008, Micha wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:44:08 +0300 snip snip I tend to see this mostly with weaker cpus where it comes into play. Also appears with explorer on windows, not only firefox. The issue is flash and ynet have a lot of them and they are very dynamic which take a lot of cpu. As I mentioned above, the flash blocker did reduce CPU use, but my box is an AMD 4200 dual core. A few flash windows should not have any real impact on the CPU. In fact, with 10 - 15 tabs open (and many of them use flash), I get about 2% (or less) CPU usage. Opening YNET jumps that to 140% (as I wrote earlier - over 70% on each core). That really makes no sense. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 I can verify that disabling JS on firefox solves the problem. I'm working with FF 3.0.5 on Red Hat 5 EL, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz, 3GB Ram. My CPU usage without FF is ~6%, with FF 90%. To test this - 1. Using firefox 3, JS enabled. Open http://ynet.co.il in 10 new tabs 2. Measure CPU usage in 5min interval. You should see a constant increase in CPU usage until the point where FF hangs and needs forced kill. Now repeat the test, with JS disabled (EditPreferencesContent, uncheck Enable JavaScript). To work around this bug, First install Greasemonkey https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748, then install this script http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/32443 Now install http://noscript.net/getit To verify the workaround, browse to ynet, You should see in the upper right corner - where the news flash used to be - the NoScript logo. Note that this also disables your ability to read / post comments, If this functionality is required the easiest solution IMHO is to click on the S icon on the right and selecting Temporarily allow all this page HTH P.S - If someone has a better solution on how to block just the required JS code on ynet.co.il (Using AdBlock Plus) or something alike, I would love to hear it. -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news thingy they use which eats the CPU. Ori Idan wrote: I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have. Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 http://2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ספרים וסיפורים שכתבתי: http://www.thestories.org
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
If you'r using the extension of the HTML validator then disable it for Ynet it will help. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:44:08 +0300 Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. I tend to see this mostly with weaker cpus where it comes into play. Also appears with explorer on windows, not only firefox. The issue is flash and ynet have a lot of them and they are very dynamic which take a lot of cpu. My current laptop can handle it, but my p-4 windows machine back home with explorer chokes the machine on 100% cpu with about 5 ynet pages open and the only option is to wait 5 minutes for each page to respond or kill explorer. Try installing a flash blocker, it will seriously reduce the overhead = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
I got several replies. Here's a summary of what worked or didn't. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Ori Idan wrote: I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have. Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine. I installed adblock plus, but it didn't solve the problem. CPU use dropped only slightly, but adblock killed all the pictures and the icons at the top of the page (but only some of the flash!!) so YNET was not really usable. On Sunday 28 September 2008, David Ronkin wrote: I had the same issue in Suse. After i installed the Flash blocker it disappeared: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+blockcat=all This did seem to solve the problem, but, although I agree there's to much flash on YNET, killing it all seems to be over-kill. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Boaz Rymland wrote: To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news thingy they use which eats the CPU. I don't think that's true. After installing flash blocker, the scrolling news was also gone. Clicking on the location it usually appears re-enabled the scrolling news and CPU use only went up about 2%. On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gal Gur-Arie wrote: If you'r using the extension of the HTML validator then disable it for Ynet it will help. not installed On Sunday 28 September 2008, Micha wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:44:08 +0300 snip snip I tend to see this mostly with weaker cpus where it comes into play. Also appears with explorer on windows, not only firefox. The issue is flash and ynet have a lot of them and they are very dynamic which take a lot of cpu. As I mentioned above, the flash blocker did reduce CPU use, but my box is an AMD 4200 dual core. A few flash windows should not have any real impact on the CPU. In fact, with 10 - 15 tabs open (and many of them use flash), I get about 2% (or less) CPU usage. Opening YNET jumps that to 140% (as I wrote earlier - over 70% on each core). That really makes no sense. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firefox chokes on YNET
I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
I noticed similar phenomenon with the same version of Firefox (technically, Iceweasel) on Debian Etch - but with http://news.walla.co.il/ Firefox chokes and crashes if I open more than 2 or so tabs on the above Web site. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 07:44 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- My 25 year old Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have. Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine. -- Ori Idan On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ספרים וסיפורים שכתבתי: http://www.thestories.org
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
I had the same issue in Suse. After i installed the Flash blocker it disappeared: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+blockcat=all -David 2008/9/28 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] I noticed similar phenomenon with the same version of Firefox (technically, Iceweasel) on Debian Etch - but with http://news.walla.co.il/ Firefox chokes and crashes if I open more than 2 or so tabs on the above Web site. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 07:44 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- My 25 year old Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- בברכה, דוד רונקין
