Getting rid of proprietary fonts
Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's niqqudless.odt) which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts. Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian, etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better! Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the document was converted to the free fonts. But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run pdffonts on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style), but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these non-free fonts. I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists. Thanks, Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 22 2012, n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Earth First! We can strip-mine the other http://nadav.harel.org.il |planets later... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's niqqudless.odt) which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts. Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian, etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better! Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the document was converted to the free fonts. But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run pdffonts on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style), but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these non-free fonts. I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Hmm... Save as HTML ? # As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists. Thanks, Nadav. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
You can gunzip odp file and grep xml sources. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's niqqudless.odt) which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts. Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian, etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better! Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the document was converted to the free fonts. But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run pdffonts on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style), but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these non-free fonts. I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists. Thanks, Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 22 2012, n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Earth First! We can strip-mine the other http://nadav.harel.org.il |planets later... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Constantine Shulyupin http://www.MakeLinux.co.il/ Embedded Linux Systems, Device Drivers, TI DaVinci ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Did you try OO's find and replace dialog? It seems to be able to search by format/attributes (hidden behind a more options button, at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora). -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Dotan Shavit wrote about Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Hmm... Save as HTML ? Thanks for the idea. This is ugly, and tedious, but it actually works and I finally was able to find and remove all the references to those nasty non-free fonts. I still wonder if there isn't a much easier way. Some search font form in OpenOffice, or a utility to turn all text in some font to pink ;-) Thanks, Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 22 2012, n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Attention: There will be a rain dance http://nadav.harel.org.il |Friday night, weather permitting. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts: On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Did you try OO's find and replace dialog? It seems to be able to search by format/attributes (hidden behind a more options button, at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora). Thanks - even after you told me about this option, it was hard to find :-) But I don't understand what this does... All I can check is font - where do I tell it *which* font to look for? I tried putting Arial in the text box, choosing the font button, and then searching. It found nothing. Maybe I, or you, or both of us, are misunderstanding what this dialog is supposed to be doing... -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 22 2012, n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |You do not need a parachute to skydive. http://nadav.harel.org.il |You only need one to skydive twice. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts: On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Did you try OO's find and replace dialog? It seems to be able to search by format/attributes (hidden behind a more options button, at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora). Thanks - even after you told me about this option, it was hard to find :-) But I don't understand what this does... All I can check is font - where do I tell it *which* font to look for? I tried putting Arial in the text box, choosing the font button, and then searching. It found nothing. Maybe I, or you, or both of us, are misunderstanding what this dialog is supposed to be doing... Don't look in Attributes, but in Format. Make sure that you only set the font family to search in CTL and not in Western, as if there is a family (or another condition) in both, the search if for and of both conditions. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's niqqudless.odt) which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts. Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian, etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better! Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the document was converted to the free fonts. But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run pdffonts on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style), but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these non-free fonts. I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? I can suggest some ideas, since I spent today hunting fonts in a pdf document, and I know you are an xfig fan. I found that filling with pattern in xfig creates a type 3 font (use filled to get rid of this), and that the default xfig fonts are postscript fonts, the default of which is times new roman (use latex fonts to get rid of this, and set the special flag flag to special. I could not get rid of these fonts unless I changed the font in the figure and exported the figure again. For the pattern, I had to re-edit each patterned object, and this included a thick dashed line. As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists. Thanks, Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 22 2012, n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Earth First! We can strip-mine the other http://nadav.harel.org.il |planets later... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
Isn't the settings dialogue for font replacement is for? I am not in front of it now, but I remember there is a font substitution setting somewhere... Amichai. On Jan 22, 2012 5:35 PM, Nadav Harapos;El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Not directly an answer to the question asked, but what the heck, here for the history: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TestFonts -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On Sunday, January 22, 2012 02:09:30 PM Matan Ziv-Av wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Did you try OO's find and replace dialog? It seems to be able to search by format/attributes (hidden behind a more options button, at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora). And just before that, look through all the paragraph styles and character styles to see if one of them uses a nonfree font. SteveT * My new 99 cent Kindle book : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006QTBLA2 * * Steve Litt : http://www.troubleshooters.com * . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts
On 01/23/2012 02:31 AM, Michael Vasiliev wrote: On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used? Not directly an answer to the question asked, but what the heck, here for the history: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TestFonts My mistake, sorry (I blame late-night posting), it does exactly what's asked. You can select a font and search for all occurrences of said font in the document. -- Cheers, MichaelV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
