Re: HTML Mail (was: Re: Which technology should I learn to do this?)

2012-01-08 Thread Omer Zak
[bottom posted, contrary to my usual custom]

On Sun, 2012-01-08 at 09:15 +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 08:50:45AM +0200, Dotan Shavit wrote:
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 Dear Linux-IL subscribers,
 
 Should I officially give up and declare text email as a thing of the
 past? Should I move to some graphical mail client that displays and
 composes html mail? I tried Thunderbird a few times, for a few days
 each, over the last 5 or so years, and always went back to mutt.
 
 I see on this list some people that still use mutt. I also have a
 feeling that some of the past users of mutt on this list moved to html
 mail clients.
 
 I do not intend to start a flame war. Feel free to ignore, give advice,
 share your struggles, etc...

My policy is to send text E-mail (except when I need the extra features
of HTML E-mail) and use a graphical client (Evolution, in my case) to
accept both text and HTML E-mails.

--- Omer
P.S.:  How to export all folders from Evolution to Icedove and
Thunderbird?


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Re: HTML Mail (was: Re: Which technology should I learn to do this?)

2012-01-08 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 09:38:21AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 09:15, Yedidyah Bar-David
 linux...@didi.bardavid.org wrote:
  Should I officially give up and declare text email as a thing of the
  past? Should I move to some graphical mail client that displays and
  composes html mail? I tried Thunderbird a few times, for a few days
  each, over the last 5 or so years, and always went back to mutt.
 
  I see on this list some people that still use mutt. I also have a
  feeling that some of the past users of mutt on this list moved to html
  mail clients.
 
  I do not intend to start a flame war. Feel free to ignore, give advice,
  share your struggles, etc...
 
 
 
 For my personal email I use Thunderbird with text email. Why do you
 want to give up on text email? HTML email is the problem, not text.

Well, at least you and Shachar, which happen to also be the participants
in this discussion - but I think it's just a coincidence, happen to send
html-only to the list. mailman added a signature as text-only, and mutt
shows me the text by default. So I have to 'v' and choose the html part
to see the actual message. But do not take this persoanally - I think
that's a symptom, while the real issue is that no significant part of the
population uses text email, and so those who do see it becoming less and
less comfortable.

BTW, if you were under the impression that you use TB BUT send text only,
you have just discoverred that at least in some cases it sends html even
when you ask it to send text only.

My most recent real issue was with the way some mail clients format the
replies, and the way lynx (also tried others) renders them to text,
which in certain cases makes it impossible to understand who wrote what.
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Re: HTML Mail (was: Re: Which technology should I learn to do this?)

2012-01-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Sunday, January 08, 2012 02:15:44 AM Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 08:50:45AM +0200, Dotan Shavit wrote:
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 Dear Linux-IL subscribers,
 
 Should I officially give up and declare text email as a thing of
 the past? Should I move to some graphical mail client that
 displays and composes html mail? I tried Thunderbird a few times,
 for a few days each, over the last 5 or so years, and always went
 back to mutt.
 
 I see on this list some people that still use mutt. I also have a
 feeling that some of the past users of mutt on this list moved to
 html mail clients.
 
 I do not intend to start a flame war. Feel free to ignore, give
 advice, share your struggles, etc...

I'm 7000 miles away, and don't come to meetings, so I'm not really a 
group member, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. :-)

In my own, personal opinion, HTML email is an unnecessary hassle and 
even possibly an unnecessary security risk. I've never sent an HTML 
email, and I often skip reading them, because kmail requires an extra 
click every time you read HTML email.

Out of a refusal to switch to kmail2 with its unnecessary complication 
of Akonadi, I need to change email clients before transitioning to 
Ubuntu 11.10. I'll probably be using Balsa or GNUMail or something 
similar. I don't know if my next email client will support HTML email 
or not.

Thanks
 
SteveT

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HTML Mail (was: Re: Which technology should I learn to do this?)

2012-01-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 08:50:45AM +0200, Dotan Shavit wrote:
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Dear Linux-IL subscribers,

Should I officially give up and declare text email as a thing of the
past? Should I move to some graphical mail client that displays and
composes html mail? I tried Thunderbird a few times, for a few days
each, over the last 5 or so years, and always went back to mutt.

I see on this list some people that still use mutt. I also have a
feeling that some of the past users of mutt on this list moved to html
mail clients.

I do not intend to start a flame war. Feel free to ignore, give advice,
share your struggles, etc...
-- 
Didi


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Re: HTML Mail (was: Re: Which technology should I learn to do this?)

2012-01-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 09:15, Yedidyah Bar-David
linux...@didi.bardavid.org wrote:
 Should I officially give up and declare text email as a thing of the
 past? Should I move to some graphical mail client that displays and
 composes html mail? I tried Thunderbird a few times, for a few days
 each, over the last 5 or so years, and always went back to mutt.

 I see on this list some people that still use mutt. I also have a
 feeling that some of the past users of mutt on this list moved to html
 mail clients.

 I do not intend to start a flame war. Feel free to ignore, give advice,
 share your struggles, etc...



For my personal email I use Thunderbird with text email. Why do you
want to give up on text email? HTML email is the problem, not text.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

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