Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-03-06 Thread Amit Aronovitch
Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 Version 2 of Crossover Office seemed to work OK, and then it broke on
 version 3+.

 Solution:
 Using Samba, network and old Pentium II just to run MS IE, Office c.

Interesting idea.
Will a PII work faster than QEMU on an Athlon? (How about VMWare?)

Note that to make the machine work with modern versions of
Windows/Office, you probably need more disk and memory than what was
standard at the time.
 On a PI-mmx, I had to flash the BIOS to make it work with a 20G hd, and
I could not make it use more than 128M ram consistently. A PII might be
just good enough though.


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Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-03-06 Thread Eran Tromer
Hi Noam,

On 2006-01-29 12:45, Noam Meltzer wrote:
 I can see Hebrew alright, but not write.
 I tried to contact the crossover office presale support, but what I was
 told was that they don't support Hebrew.
 
 I tried running the crossover IE with my default locale (POSIX) as well
 as  with LANG=he_IL and LANG=he_IL.UTF-8
 using POSIX locale, it just did not work at all. using one of the
 'he_IL' combinations, every thing I typed became the letter KUF (ק).

This works for me with Crossover Office 5.01 (and also earlier versions):

$ setxkbmap -option -option grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:caps us,il
$ export LANG=he_IL
$ ~/cxoffice/bin/iexplore

Keyboard layout toggling is via Caps Lock.

It's high time that Wine/cxoffice moved to Unicode, though.

  Eran

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Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-01-29 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Noam Meltzer wrote:

Did any of you succeeded to write Hebrew in Crossover Office IE? Can you 
please enlighten me of how to achieve this goal?


See here: http://www.lingnu.com/support.html

And thank Shachar Shemesh/Lingnu for creating it.

PS. I don't use IE and I have no idea if it works, but I know the page 
exists and it sounded like it will help you.


Cheers,
Gilad

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Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-01-29 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Version 2 of Crossover Office seemed to work OK, and then it broke on 
version 3+.


Solution:
Using Samba, network and old Pentium II just to run MS IE, Office c.

Cost: Apart from MS Win X and/or Office you pay for anyway - peanuts.

Noam Meltzer wrote:


Hi All,

I'm evaluating crossover office to see if it suits my needs, and I was 
faced with a problem to write Hebrew in it.

I can see Hebrew alright, but not write.
I tried to contact the crossover office presale support, but what I 
was told was that they don't support Hebrew.


I tried running the crossover IE with my default locale (POSIX) as 
well as  with LANG=he_IL and LANG=he_IL.UTF-8
using POSIX locale, it just did not work at all. using one of the 
'he_IL' combinations, every thing I typed became the letter KUF (ק).


Did any of you succeeded to write Hebrew in Crossover Office IE? Can 
you please enlighten me of how to achieve this goal?


Thanks,
Noam Meltzer


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Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-01-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

 Noam Meltzer wrote:

 Did any of you succeeded to write Hebrew in Crossover Office IE? Can
 you please enlighten me of how to achieve this goal?


 See here: http://www.lingnu.com/support.html

 And thank Shachar Shemesh/Lingnu for creating it.

 PS. I don't use IE and I have no idea if it works, but I know the page
 exists and it sounded like it will help you.

Yes, well.

That DLL was compiled with a rather old version of CrossOver Office.
There is a long planned overhaul of the BiDi support in Wine (and,
consequently, in CrossOver Office) that will make CrossOver Office
support BiDi out of the box again (or as near it as to make no
difference). It will also add quite a lot to Wine's own BiDi support.
This is some work, however, and has been pushed back due to more urgent
things on our plate.

If there is a true interest from one or more people willing to finance
this, we will be more than happy to carry out the actual work. Contact
me if this is such a case.

I'll make this last statement clearer. The work we do is solely on the
(free) Wine. CrossOver will benefit from this work in the usual way, as
it will get what work we put into Wine in that respect. Anyone who puts
money into such a project would, however, be putting money to
development effort released under the GNU LGPL license, and be
completely free software.

 Cheers,
 Gilad

   Shachar


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Re: Crossover office - Writing hebrew in IE

2006-01-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 Version 2 of Crossover Office seemed to work OK, and then it broke on
 version 3+.

Yes, it did :-(

That is when I switched from implementing my own, extremely partial,
BiDi algorithm, to using the pre-existing support provided by ICU.

the problem is that ICU is a C++ library, and thus requires lots of
standard C++ support libraries. CodeWeavers did not wish to have
CrossOver Office require those libraries (which are rather a pain to set
up and cause a mini-DLL hell), and thus stopped shipping CrossOver
Office with BiDi support enabled. The effort Gilad linked to was an
override, of us compiling the relevant libraries from XOO ourselves with
the relevant support. We could do that, because they are under the LGPL
license, even when part of the proprietary XOO.

The intent is to move the BiDi support into a different DLL. This means
that the existance of said DLL will cause any version of Wine to support
BiDi. This means that Code Weavers are then free not to compile this one
DLL, and we can compile it independantly from XOO itself. This, of
course, will take some time, which at Lingnu's current status, will
require funding to take place.

 Solution:
 Using Samba, network and old Pentium II just to run MS IE, Office c.

Don't you mean rdesktop as well?

 Cost: Apart from MS Win X and/or Office you pay for anyway - peanuts.

Well, at least in theory, you save on the Windows license with XOO.

I will mention that there are, today, very good wrappers outside of XOO
that allow installing of IE over the standard Wine. This should not stop
anyone from offering money to sponsor the above addition, but will allow
you to use your own Wine, which will have the BiDi support.

  Shachar

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