Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:52:20AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
 Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Thu, 03 Aug:
  Hi,
  
  Someone asked me about a GUI program that can be used to connect to the 
  ADSL. 
  I know that pppoe (pon/poff) works like a charm, but it's command-line 
  based 
  and the user wants an easy to use applet instead.

pon/poff is generally for ppp connections. You should also be able to
define a ppp0 network interface and use ifup/ifdown.

 # apt-cache search ppp|grep -i kde
  kppp - KDE dialer and frontend to pppd
 
 but I still think it's pointless...

Right. I could not make it work with pppoeciadsl . pppoe seems basically
the same. It's a GUI for a totally different task.

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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-05 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 19:32 +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote:
 Someone asked me about a GUI program that can be used to connect to the ADSL. 
 I know that pppoe (pon/poff) works like a charm, but it's command-line based 
 and the user wants an easy to use applet instead.
 
 I googled for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant (except for a 
 project that hasn't been maintained in the last 4 years). Does anyone know if 
 there's a simple way to do this on KDE?

Most modern linux distributions have a network configuration wizard that
supports setting all kinds of connections, including DSL. They then
offer you interesting ways in which a user can invoke such connections -
for example, Mandriva have a network applet tray icon from which you
can connect to the internet, while Fedora requires you to use a modem
applet or have the user run system-config-network unpriviliged, in
which case only the relevant interfaces can be turned on an off.

None of these interfaces are KDE centric, but as they are integrated
into the distribution desktop it should not be a problem. otherwise you
can probably tinker around with kppp to let you do that.

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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-05 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Saturday 05 August 2006 11:54, Oded Arbel wrote:

 Most modern linux distributions have a network configuration wizard that
 supports setting all kinds of connections, including DSL.

Any idea if there's something like that on Debian?

 otherwise you 
 can probably tinker around with kppp to let you do that.

From what I've seen kppp needs a phone number (i.e. it's a modem dialer not an 
ADSL dialer). Am I missing something?


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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Thu, 03 Aug:
 Hi,
 
 Someone asked me about a GUI program that can be used to connect to the ADSL. 
 I know that pppoe (pon/poff) works like a charm, but it's command-line based 
 and the user wants an easy to use applet instead.

kde and gnome both let you define icons to run any command you want, why
not create two for pon and poff?

I've never even bumped into such questions since the broadband prices
went down, I just set machines to dial as soon as the OS comes up and
keep it alive, period. why would you ever want to manually futz around
with that?

 I googled for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant (except for a 
 project that hasn't been maintained in the last 4 years). Does anyone know if 
 there's a simple way to do this on KDE?

# apt-cache search ppp|grep -i kde
 kppp - KDE dialer and frontend to pppd

but I still think it's pointless...

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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-04 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Friday 04 August 2006 10:52, Ira Abramov wrote:
 I just set machines to dial as soon as the OS comes up and
 keep it alive, period. 

Me too. But that person has a laptop, and he wants to come home, connect it to 
the ADSL modem and turn the connection 'on'. Sure, he can buy an ADSL router 
instead but I think it's silly when connecting to ADSL on Linux is so 
trivial.

 why would you ever want to manually futz around 
 with that?

Because it's there


 # apt-cache search ppp|grep -i kde
  kppp - KDE dialer and frontend to pppd


That's the first program I checked out - it's for modem dialing, not ADSL. For 
one, it expects a phone number.

- Aviram

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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Fri, 04 Aug:
 On Friday 04 August 2006 10:52, Ira Abramov wrote:
 
 Me too. But that person has a laptop, and he wants to come home, connect it 
 to 
 the ADSL modem and turn the connection 'on'. 

ahh, that makes more sense. ok then, back to my first idea, define two
icons that activate pon and poff...

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Re: GUI program for pppoe

2006-08-03 Thread David Suna
I have been using tkpppoe on a RedHat 9 system (GNOME) for a couple of 
years.  I had to download the source and recompile it to get it to work 
with my Alcatel Speedtouch modem to connect to actcom.  This was all 
quite a long time ago but under the old adage of If it ain't broke 
don't fix it I am still running that system.



On a side note: I installed RedHat 9 at the time for a project I was 
working on.  Since nothing lasts forever I want to think about what to 
do when I have to upgrade the system.  The distributions out there have 
changed radically with new distributions out.  Without trying to start a 
distribution war I wanted to know what people would recommend for a 
system that needs to provide the following requirements:


1. Connect to the Internet via ADSL (currently I use actcom as my ISP)

2. Provide NAT services to an internal network of mainly windows machines

3. Provide SAMBA services for the internal network

4. Run Apache, PHP, MySQL for internal web application development

5. Run dosemu for an old DOS accounting application that is still holding on

6. The Windows machines will sometimes connect to the Linux box using 
Cygwin's X server.



I think that is it for now.  When the time comes I will probably have to 
replace it in a hurry so I am looking for something that would just work.


Thanks,

David Suna
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Aviram Jenik wrote:

Hi,

Someone asked me about a GUI program that can be used to connect to the ADSL. 
I know that pppoe (pon/poff) works like a charm, but it's command-line based 
and the user wants an easy to use applet instead.


I googled for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant (except for a 
project that hasn't been maintained in the last 4 years). Does anyone know if 
there's a simple way to do this on KDE?


- Aviram

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