Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
Hi I installed Geany. It works both with Java and C++. Using Geany with GDB seems problematic but I figure that it's a good bet for 1st year students to get started. Thank you all for your suggestions! On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 6:00 PM Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > Forgot the JetBrains mentioned here > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 4:55 PM Evgeniy Ginzburg > wrote: > >> Hello Josh. >> I'll try to answer the question that you not really asked. >> >> The problem with lightweight editors (best ones are variants of Vim or >> Emacs) that making them work "good" for Java coding is a very non-trivial >> task. >> Especially if you want any debugging, code navigation and/or snippets. >> (Also if anybody can point me to a good configuration example for >> Java/Scala in Vim or Emacs I'll be eternally grateful.) >> >> C/C++ is easier in this case. >> Still, making ctags(or equivalent) and GDB to work under Vim or Emacs is >> not the 5 minutes task. >> And one will need to integrate some kind of build system make, cmake, >> etc... >> Whoever is going to do this will need to know exactly what he wants, and >> this is not expected from the first year student. >> >> And also I assume that you'd prefer a solution that "Just works (TM)". >> >> Then your choices are limited to full-fledged IDEs, and those are not in >> any way lightweight. >> From my point of view, Netbeans is just a little bit lighter than Eclipse >> on resources, but this is just a matter of personal taste. >> >> Best regards Evgeniy. >> >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> Happy Purim! >>> We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students >>> that is light on resources. >>> Thanks, >>> Josh >>> >>> ___ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> >> >> -- >> So long, and thanks for all the fish. >> > > > -- > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
Forgot the JetBrains mentioned here On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 4:55 PM Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > Hello Josh. > I'll try to answer the question that you not really asked. > > The problem with lightweight editors (best ones are variants of Vim or > Emacs) that making them work "good" for Java coding is a very non-trivial > task. > Especially if you want any debugging, code navigation and/or snippets. > (Also if anybody can point me to a good configuration example for > Java/Scala in Vim or Emacs I'll be eternally grateful.) > > C/C++ is easier in this case. > Still, making ctags(or equivalent) and GDB to work under Vim or Emacs is > not the 5 minutes task. > And one will need to integrate some kind of build system make, cmake, > etc... > Whoever is going to do this will need to know exactly what he wants, and > this is not expected from the first year student. > > And also I assume that you'd prefer a solution that "Just works (TM)". > > Then your choices are limited to full-fledged IDEs, and those are not in > any way lightweight. > From my point of view, Netbeans is just a little bit lighter than Eclipse > on resources, but this is just a matter of personal taste. > > Best regards Evgeniy. > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> Happy Purim! >> We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students >> that is light on resources. >> Thanks, >> Josh >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > > > -- > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
Atom On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, 11:53 AM Josh Roden, wrote: > Hi everyone, > Happy Purim! > We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students > that is light on resources. > Thanks, > Josh > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
Hello Josh. I'll try to answer the question that you not really asked. The problem with lightweight editors (best ones are variants of Vim or Emacs) that making them work "good" for Java coding is a very non-trivial task. Especially if you want any debugging, code navigation and/or snippets. (Also if anybody can point me to a good configuration example for Java/Scala in Vim or Emacs I'll be eternally grateful.) C/C++ is easier in this case. Still, making ctags(or equivalent) and GDB to work under Vim or Emacs is not the 5 minutes task. And one will need to integrate some kind of build system make, cmake, etc... Whoever is going to do this will need to know exactly what he wants, and this is not expected from the first year student. And also I assume that you'd prefer a solution that "Just works (TM)". Then your choices are limited to full-fledged IDEs, and those are not in any way lightweight. >From my point of view, Netbeans is just a little bit lighter than Eclipse on resources, but this is just a matter of personal taste. Best regards Evgeniy. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: > Hi everyone, > Happy Purim! > We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students > that is light on resources. > Thanks, > Josh > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
We give jetbrains to our first year students. We used to let then use emacs but I think jetbrains was more comfortable for them. Ely On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 12:41 Shay Gover wrote: > As far as I know only eclipse support both. > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:26 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> Hi Josh! >> >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> Happy Purim! >>> We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students >>> that is light on resources. >>> >> >> How much light? People used to complain about emacs needing more than 8 >> megabytes of RAM... >> Anyway, see >> https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/editors-and-IDEs/ . >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> Josh >>> >>> ___ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> >> >> -- >> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ >> >> Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. >> >> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply >> . >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
As far as I know only eclipse support both. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:26 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Josh! > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> Happy Purim! >> We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students >> that is light on resources. >> > > How much light? People used to complain about emacs needing more than 8 > megabytes of RAM... > Anyway, see > https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/editors-and-IDEs/ . > > >> Thanks, >> Josh >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > > > -- > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestion for java/c++ editor with compile, run and debug capabilities.
Hi Josh! On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:53 AM Josh Roden wrote: > Hi everyone, > Happy Purim! > We're looking for a Linux editor for first year CS students > that is light on resources. > How much light? People used to complain about emacs needing more than 8 megabytes of RAM... Anyway, see https://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/editors-and-IDEs/ . > Thanks, > Josh > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
