Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi Eli, sorry for the late reply. On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:11 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Shlomi Fish > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 15:52:49 +0300 > > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > > > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are > > using? > > > > They are part of the mageia 7 x86-64 packages. See > http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/mageia/distrib/7/ . You can try > > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rpm2cpio&atb=v140-1&ia=web or building from > source. Note that I already got it > > working for my use case so it is not too critical. > > I'm using the dictionary from an earlier version of this distribution, > 1.1-6 (you pointed me to 1.4-2). My version of Hunspell refuses to > load this dictionary: it complains about multiple table definition on > line 3371. And indeed, there are 2 lines in the aff file which say > "MAP 10". > > I don't know enough about Hunspell internals to figure out whether > this could or couldn't be the culprit. My suggestion would be to > upgrade to the latest version of Hunspell (1.7.0, AFAIK), and if that > doesn't fix the problem, report a bug to the distribution maintainers. > > I am already using 1.7.0 which is indeed the latest - https://github.com/hunspell/hunspell/releases . > Sorry I couldn't be of more help. > -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
> From: Shlomi Fish > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 15:52:49 +0300 > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are > using? > > They are part of the mageia 7 x86-64 packages. See > http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/mageia/distrib/7/ . You can try > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rpm2cpio&atb=v140-1&ia=web or building from source. > Note that I already got it > working for my use case so it is not too critical. I'm using the dictionary from an earlier version of this distribution, 1.1-6 (you pointed me to 1.4-2). My version of Hunspell refuses to load this dictionary: it complains about multiple table definition on line 3371. And indeed, there are 2 lines in the aff file which say "MAP 10". I don't know enough about Hunspell internals to figure out whether this could or couldn't be the culprit. My suggestion would be to upgrade to the latest version of Hunspell (1.7.0, AFAIK), and if that doesn't fix the problem, report a bug to the distribution maintainers. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi Eli! Sorry for the late reply. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:36 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Shlomi Fish > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 23:11:40 +0300 > > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > > > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > On my system that cmdline invocation gives me this on stdout: > > Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are > using? > They are part of the mageia 7 x86-64 packages. See http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/mageia/distrib/7/ . You can try https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rpm2cpio&atb=v140-1&ia=web or building from source. Note that I already got it working for my use case so it is not too critical. -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
> From: Shlomi Fish > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 23:11:40 +0300 > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > On my system that cmdline invocation gives me this on stdout: Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are using? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi! On my system that cmdline invocation gives me this on stdout: ``` באופן באמצע באמת בבידוד בודאי בזהירות ביותר בישראל בכל במטה במסגרת במשך בפיתוח ברמה ברשת בשימוש בשנת בתחילת האינטרנט האמונה החשובה היוניקסית הינה היתה הלינוקס המפוזרים המתוכנת העדינים העובדה העובדים העולם העורך הפיתוח הקורים הקתדרלה הראשונים הרשת ואחרים וגישות והבזאר והרבה ויציבה וכלים וכן ומחוברים ומלווה ומצאתי ומתוכננת וסואן וקוד-פתוח ותכנות טורבלדס כאילו כהפתעה ככל כרגע כשלינוקס כשפיתחתי לבזאר להבנות להטיף להשתפר להתלכד לינוס למודעות לעברית לעשות לפרוייקט לצאת מהתורמים מראש מתוך ניסים סטיבן פיש ריימונד שהשתתפתי שהתוכנה שידעתי שמעליה שמערכת שמתוכו שסומלו שעדיין שקהילת תוכנות ``` So it does not work as it should. Thanks! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi Eli and all, first note that after playing a little with https://github.com/eranroz/HspellPy , the mageia hspell package and with https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Inline-Python/Python.pod , I was able to overcome the issue in my code. Thanks for the motivation. On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 5:53 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Shlomi Fish > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 22:56:28 +0300 > > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > > > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix > > project. Hunspell version is 1.3.2. > > > > Ah, I have hunspell-1.7.0 and hspell 1.4. > > I don't think it should make any difference. > > Right. > > Moreover, how are you using/invoking hunspell? Can you show a shell > session? > > > > I spell-checked your list in Emacs, using flyspell-region. What > > do you want to know about the invocation? I used UTF-8 encoding to > > communicate to Hunspell, if that's the question. > > > > Well, there may be a difference in the way flyspell uses hunspell/hspell > and the way > > https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell does. We need to figure out > what goes wrong on my end. > > OK, so from the shell prompt, invoking Hunspell like this: > > hunspell -d he_IL -i utf-8 -L hewords.txt > > where hewords.txt is a UTF-8 encoded text file with the list of the > words you sent, gives me just 18 mis-spelled words: > > בודאי > בווסט-צ'סטר > בלנסות > בפרוייקטים > דברי-חוכמה > היוניקסית > הינה > היתה > הפרוייקט > טורבלדס > לינוס > לפרוייקט > ניסים > סטיבן > פיש > פרוייקט > ריימונד > תוכנות > > All of the mis-spellings look reasonable to me. > > Do you get the same result if you invoke Hunspell like above? > I'll try, thanks. -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
> From: Shlomi Fish > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 22:56:28 +0300 > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix > project. Hunspell version is 1.3.2. > > Ah, I have hunspell-1.7.0 and hspell 1.4. I don't think it should make any difference. > > Moreover, how are you using/invoking hunspell? Can you show a shell > session? > > I spell-checked your list in Emacs, using flyspell-region. What > do you want to know about the invocation? I used UTF-8 encoding to > communicate to Hunspell, if that's the question. > > Well, there may be a difference in the way flyspell uses hunspell/hspell and > the way > https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell does. We need to figure out what goes > wrong on my end. OK, so from the shell prompt, invoking Hunspell like this: hunspell -d he_IL -i utf-8 -L hewords.txt where hewords.txt is a UTF-8 encoded text file with the list of the words you sent, gives me just 18 mis-spelled words: בודאי בווסט-צ'סטר בלנסות בפרוייקטים דברי-חוכמה היוניקסית הינה היתה הפרוייקט טורבלדס לינוס לפרוייקט ניסים סטיבן פיש פרוייקט ריימונד תוכנות All of the mis-spellings look reasonable to me. Do you get the same result if you invoke Hunspell like above? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:57 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Shlomi Fish > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 20:47:29 +0300 > > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > > > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > Latest version as https://packages.debian.org/sid/hspell . What is > your OS/dist/version? > > I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix > project. Hunspell version is 1.3.2. > > Ah, I have hunspell-1.7.0 and hspell 1.4. > > Moreover, how are you using/invoking hunspell? Can you show a shell > session? > > I spell-checked your list in Emacs, using flyspell-region. What > do you want to know about the invocation? I used UTF-8 encoding to > communicate to Hunspell, if that's the question. > Well, there may be a difference in the way flyspell uses hunspell/hspell and the way https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell does. We need to figure out what goes wrong on my end. Thanks! -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
> From: Shlomi Fish > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 20:47:29 +0300 > Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" , > dan...@users.sourceforge.net > > Latest version as https://packages.debian.org/sid/hspell . What is your > OS/dist/version? I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix project. Hunspell version is 1.3.2. > Moreover, how are you using/invoking hunspell? Can you show a shell session? I spell-checked your list in Emacs, using flyspell-region. What do you want to know about the invocation? I used UTF-8 encoding to communicate to Hunspell, if that's the question. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:34 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > Thanks Eli! > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:20 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > From: Shlomi Fish >> > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 19:49:32 +0300 >> > >> > So I created this branch - >> https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew >> (note the >> > branch name). Which adds autochecking using >> https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many >> > legitimate Hebrew words are marked as errors: >> >> FWIW, using Hunspell and he_IL dictionary, I see only a small number >> of words from this list marked as misspellings: >> >> בודאי - should be "בוודאי" >> בווסט-צ'סטר - this is not Hebrew >> בלנסות - this is incorrect Hebrew >> בפרוייקטים - should be "בפרויקטים" >> דברי-חוכמה - should be "דברי-חכמה" >> היוניקסית - not a Hebrew word >> הינה - should be "הנה" >> היתה - should be "הייתה" >> טורבלדס - not a Hebrew word >> לינוס - ditto >> ניסים - should be "נסים" >> >> and a few more. >> >> Maybe your dictionary is not the best one? >> > > I am on Mageia Linux v7 using: > > ``` > shlomif[cleanup]:~$ rpm -qil hunspell-he > Name: hunspell-he > Version : 1.4 > Release : 2.mga7 > Architecture: noarch > Install Date: Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:13:52 IST > Group : System/Internationalization > Size: 7875297 > License : LGPL > Signature : RSA/SHA256, Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:53:10 IDT, Key ID > b742fa8b80420f66 > Source RPM : hspell-1.4-2.mga7.src.rpm > Build Date : Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:32:02 IDT > Build Host : localhost > Relocations : (not relocatable) > Packager: umeabot > Vendor : Mageia.Org > URL : http://hspell.ivrix.org.il/ > Summary : Hebrew hunspell dictionaries > Description : > Hebrew hunspell dictionaries > /usr/share/hunspell/he_IL.aff > /usr/share/hunspell/he_IL.dic > /usr/share/myspell/he_IL.aff > /usr/share/myspell/he_IL.dic > ``` > > Latest version as https://packages.debian.org/sid/hspell . What is your > OS/dist/version? > > Moreover, how are you using/invoking hunspell? Can you show a shell session? > -- > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Thanks Eli! On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:20 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Shlomi Fish > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 19:49:32 +0300 > > > > So I created this branch - > https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew > (note the > > branch name). Which adds autochecking using > https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many > > legitimate Hebrew words are marked as errors: > > FWIW, using Hunspell and he_IL dictionary, I see only a small number > of words from this list marked as misspellings: > > בודאי - should be "בוודאי" > בווסט-צ'סטר - this is not Hebrew > בלנסות - this is incorrect Hebrew > בפרוייקטים - should be "בפרויקטים" > דברי-חוכמה - should be "דברי-חכמה" > היוניקסית - not a Hebrew word > הינה - should be "הנה" > היתה - should be "הייתה" > טורבלדס - not a Hebrew word > לינוס - ditto > ניסים - should be "נסים" > > and a few more. > > Maybe your dictionary is not the best one? > I am on Mageia Linux v7 using: ``` shlomif[cleanup]:~$ rpm -qil hunspell-he Name: hunspell-he Version : 1.4 Release : 2.mga7 Architecture: noarch Install Date: Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:13:52 IST Group : System/Internationalization Size: 7875297 License : LGPL Signature : RSA/SHA256, Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:53:10 IDT, Key ID b742fa8b80420f66 Source RPM : hspell-1.4-2.mga7.src.rpm Build Date : Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:32:02 IDT Build Host : localhost Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager: umeabot Vendor : Mageia.Org URL : http://hspell.ivrix.org.il/ Summary : Hebrew hunspell dictionaries Description : Hebrew hunspell dictionaries /usr/share/hunspell/he_IL.aff /usr/share/hunspell/he_IL.dic /usr/share/myspell/he_IL.aff /usr/share/myspell/he_IL.dic ``` Latest version as https://packages.debian.org/sid/hspell . What is your OS/dist/version? -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
> From: Shlomi Fish > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 19:49:32 +0300 > > So I created this branch - > https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew (note > the > branch name). Which adds autochecking using > https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many > legitimate Hebrew words are marked as errors: FWIW, using Hunspell and he_IL dictionary, I see only a small number of words from this list marked as misspellings: בודאי - should be "בוודאי" בווסט-צ'סטר - this is not Hebrew בלנסות - this is incorrect Hebrew בפרוייקטים - should be "בפרויקטים" דברי-חוכמה - should be "דברי-חכמה" היוניקסית - not a Hebrew word הינה - should be "הנה" היתה - should be "הייתה" טורבלדס - not a Hebrew word לינוס - ditto ניסים - should be "נסים" and a few more. Maybe your dictionary is not the best one? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi all! I found https://github.com/eranroz/HspellPy which seems exactly what I need. Any other insights would still be appreciated though. On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 7:49 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi all! > > I'd like to automatically check for spelling errors in the Hebrew text of > my site which is close to be fully validated XHTML5. > > So I created this branch - > https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew > (note the branch name). Which adds autochecking using > https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many legitimate Hebrew > words are marked as errors: > > ``` > GLOBAL: > > אב-טיפוס > באופן > באמצע > באמת > בבידוד > בבית > בבלבול > בדיוק > בודאי > בווסט-צ'סטר > בזהירות > ביותר > ביממה > ביראת-כבוד > בישראל > בכל > בכמעט > בלנסות > במהירות > במודע > במטה > במסגרת > במשך > בסגנון > בעוד > בעולם > בעזרת > בעצמך > בפיתוח > בפעם > בפרוייקטים > בקיצור > ברגע > ברמה > ברשת > בשימוש > בשנת > בתחילת > דברי-חוכמה > האינטרנט > האלה > האמונה > הבזאר > הדברים > הדואר > החשובה > הטכני > היוניקסית > הייחודית > הינה > היתה > הלינוקס > המזל > המחשב > המפוזרים > המקומיים > המתוכנת > הסיפור > העבודה > העדינים > העובדה > העובדים > העולם > העורך > הפיתוח > הפרוייקט > הצד > הקורים > הקתדרלה > הראשונים > הרשת > התאוריה > ואוכל > ואחרים > וגישות > והבזאר > והוא > והרבה > וייתכן > ויציבה > וכלים > וכן > וכתבתי > ומחוברים > ומלווה > ומצאתי > ומתוכננת > וסואן > ועובד > וקוד-פתוח > ותכנות > טורבלדס > כאילו > כאשר > כהלם > כהפתעה > כיום > ככל > כרגע > כשלינוקס > כשפיתחתי > ל- > לבדוק > לבזאר > לבחון > לדואר > להבין > להבנות > להגיע > להטיף > להיות > להציע > להריץ > להשתפר > להתלכד > לחיל > לחלום > לטפל > לינוס > ליעדו > למודעות > למעיין > למעשה > לעברית > לעשות > לפרוייקט > לצאת > לראשונה > לרשת > מאז > מהתורמים > מראש > מרובת-המשתמשים > מתוך > ניסים > סטיבן > על-ידי > פיש > פרוייקט > קוד-פתוח > ריימונד > שהדואר > שהוא > שהלך > שהם > שהשתתפתי > שהתוכנה > שידעתי > שיודיעו > שיכולתי > שלא > שמעליה > שמערכת > שמתוכו > שנראה > שסגנון > שסומלו > שעדיין > שקהילת > תוכנות > ``` > > the main problem seems the handling of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affix > es such as "be" "le" "she". So I wish to avoid whitelisting all these > variations which is a lot of menial work. > > How can I use hspell to spellcheck UTF8 hebrew text inside valid XHTML in > the context of an automated test suite - > https://github.com/shlomif/what-you-should-know-about-automated-testing ? > In theory what I need is a way to: 1. Get a boolean indicating if any > errors were found. 2. Give me a list of disliked words so I can correct or > whitelist them. > > Should I use https://linux.die.net/man/3/hspell ? > > > -- > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
How do I use hspell / hunspell hebrew as part of an HTML site test suite?
Hi all! I'd like to automatically check for spelling errors in the Hebrew text of my site which is close to be fully validated XHTML5. So I created this branch - https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew (note the branch name). Which adds autochecking using https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many legitimate Hebrew words are marked as errors: ``` GLOBAL: אב-טיפוס באופן באמצע באמת בבידוד בבית בבלבול בדיוק בודאי בווסט-צ'סטר בזהירות ביותר ביממה ביראת-כבוד בישראל בכל בכמעט בלנסות במהירות במודע במטה במסגרת במשך בסגנון בעוד בעולם בעזרת בעצמך בפיתוח בפעם בפרוייקטים בקיצור ברגע ברמה ברשת בשימוש בשנת בתחילת דברי-חוכמה האינטרנט האלה האמונה הבזאר הדברים הדואר החשובה הטכני היוניקסית הייחודית הינה היתה הלינוקס המזל המחשב המפוזרים המקומיים המתוכנת הסיפור העבודה העדינים העובדה העובדים העולם העורך הפיתוח הפרוייקט הצד הקורים הקתדרלה הראשונים הרשת התאוריה ואוכל ואחרים וגישות והבזאר והוא והרבה וייתכן ויציבה וכלים וכן וכתבתי ומחוברים ומלווה ומצאתי ומתוכננת וסואן ועובד וקוד-פתוח ותכנות טורבלדס כאילו כאשר כהלם כהפתעה כיום ככל כרגע כשלינוקס כשפיתחתי ל- לבדוק לבזאר לבחון לדואר להבין להבנות להגיע להטיף להיות להציע להריץ להשתפר להתלכד לחיל לחלום לטפל לינוס ליעדו למודעות למעיין למעשה לעברית לעשות לפרוייקט לצאת לראשונה לרשת מאז מהתורמים מראש מרובת-המשתמשים מתוך ניסים סטיבן על-ידי פיש פרוייקט קוד-פתוח ריימונד שהדואר שהוא שהלך שהם שהשתתפתי שהתוכנה שידעתי שיודיעו שיכולתי שלא שמעליה שמערכת שמתוכו שנראה שסגנון שסומלו שעדיין שקהילת תוכנות ``` the main problem seems the handling of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affix es such as "be" "le" "she". So I wish to avoid whitelisting all these variations which is a lot of menial work. How can I use hspell to spellcheck UTF8 hebrew text inside valid XHTML in the context of an automated test suite - https://github.com/shlomif/what-you-should-know-about-automated-testing ? In theory what I need is a way to: 1. Get a boolean indicating if any errors were found. 2. Give me a list of disliked words so I can correct or whitelist them. Should I use https://linux.die.net/man/3/hspell ? -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test Message] Ignore or Acknowledge
On 07/18/2012 02:09 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: OK, I now see that this message arrived at the mailing list and was displayed at the archives almost instantly. However, an earlier E-mail that I had sent from my home (and preferred) address of shlo...@shlomifish.org did not arrive. So there appears to be a problem with the mailing list or its underlying server's E-mail configuration. Ely, can you please investigate? Regards, — Shlomi Fish Yep, on the 14/06/2012 09:49 AM, my reply to the mail with the subject "OT: clean out your junkpile (suff wanted)" did not get through for some reason too. HTH, Sorry for wrong subject line in the other email. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test Message] Ignore or Acknowledge
Hi all, On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > This is a test message which is safe to ignore. It was sent at roughly: > > Wed Jul 18 14:00:55 IDT 2012 > > I am sending it because I had problems sending E-mails from my home address. > OK, I now see that this message arrived at the mailing list and was displayed at the archives almost instantly. However, an earlier E-mail that I had sent from my home (and preferred) address of shlo...@shlomifish.org did not arrive. So there appears to be a problem with the mailing list or its underlying server's E-mail configuration. Ely, can you please investigate? Regards, — Shlomi Fish > Regards, > > -- Shlomi Fish > > -- > -- > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done > that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. -- -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Test Message] Ignore or Acknowledge
This is a test message which is safe to ignore. It was sent at roughly: Wed Jul 18 14:00:55 IDT 2012 I am sending it because I had problems sending E-mails from my home address. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish -- -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Test.
It seems that you can since this is the second mail I see from you. On Jul 22, 2011 9:12 PM, "Shlomi Fish" wrote: > This is a test message, since I was unable to send E-mail to Linux-IL from home. > > Regards, > > -- Shlomi Fish > > -- > -- > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done > that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Test.
This is a test message, since I was unable to send E-mail to Linux-IL from home. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish -- -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[TEST, ignore] My messages are not posted in the linux-il list
An attempt to debug the problem > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:54:21 +0200 > To: linux...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: My messages are not posted in the linux-il list > > On 12/04/2010 11:34 PM, Ron Varburg wrote: > > Please advise. Would you like me sending a test message? > > Thank you. > Nothing in the mod queue from that address. Could you send a test > message and CC the owner so I could track it? > > -- > Michael V. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test] Kmail, Firefox, etc scrambling text -without attachment
> So, my message gets through when I remove the attachment. > Does the list reject messages with attachments ? > Does it reject messages which are over a certain size ? > Are there sunspots which are affecting my messages ? > Send to me the message off list. I administer http://gibberish.co.il and I have a bit of experience with these things! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test] Kmail, Firefox, etc scrambling text -without attachment
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > So, my message gets through when I remove the attachment. > > Does the list reject messages with attachments ? > > Does it reject messages which are over a certain size ? > > Are there sunspots which are affecting my messages ? > > > > > > Who knows all the dirty secrets about the list ? > > Now now. Calm down and READ YOUR MAIL. OK, I'm calm ;-) > > When you send a message to the list that violates the list's policy, you > get a message titled "Your message to Linux-il awaits moderator > approval", with a precise explanation of why your message was not posted > to the list immediately. I received no such message - I just checked again to be sure, but no, I received no such message. > I have just sent a 100K file as attachment and > confirmed that this message IS received. Instead of spaming the list, > all you had to do was read your inbox to find out why your message was > not coming through. > > Here is the message I got for my test message: > > Your mail to 'Linux-il' with the subject > > > > Test big message (please delete if it gets through) > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > > > The reason it is being held: > > > > Message body is too big: 138921 bytes with a limit of 40 KB > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > > > > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/confirm/linux- il/a185c64fe6a1f0399ec > >0b7e33d896b02793af3a7 -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test] Kmail, Firefox, etc scrambling text -without attachment
Aharon Schkolnik wrote: So, my message gets through when I remove the attachment. Does the list reject messages with attachments ? Does it reject messages which are over a certain size ? Are there sunspots which are affecting my messages ? Who knows all the dirty secrets about the list ? Now now. Calm down and READ YOUR MAIL. When you send a message to the list that violates the list's policy, you get a message titled "Your message to Linux-il awaits moderator approval", with a precise explanation of why your message was not posted to the list immediately. I have just sent a 100K file as attachment and confirmed that this message IS received. Instead of spaming the list, all you had to do was read your inbox to find out why your message was not coming through. Here is the message I got for my test message: Your mail to 'Linux-il' with the subject Test big message (please delete if it gets through) Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 138921 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/confirm/linux-il/a185c64fe6a1f0399ec0b7e33d896b02793af3a7 -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Test] Kmail, Firefox, etc scrambling text -without attachment
So, my message gets through when I remove the attachment. Does the list reject messages with attachments ? Does it reject messages which are over a certain size ? Are there sunspots which are affecting my messages ? Who knows all the dirty secrets about the list ? TIA ! On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > Hi ! > > I have attached a screen shot showing a portion of an email which I > received. Note the line which is supposed to say flying over Israel on > Monday night, but is scrambled. > > Below is the email source. The text in the source looks fine ! > I see the same sort of thing with Firefox. > > I am running Fedora 10 with kde 4.2.2. > > Any ideas ? > > Does it have to do with my font settings ? > > > TIA ! > > > > > > Return-path: > Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com ([209.85.218.213]) > by mxin4.netvision.net.il > (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) > with ESMTP id <0kj5007gbx1if...@mxin4.netvision.net.il> for > schkol...@013.net (ORCPT schkol...@013.net.il); Tue, 05 May 2009 11:33:36 > +0300 (IDT) Received: by mail-bw0-f213.google.com with SMTP id > 9so4277170bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:35 > -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.204.100.11 with SMTP id w11mr6676668bkn.32.1241512415925; > Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.204.59.66 with SMTP id k2cs7885bkh; Tue, > 05 May 2009 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.224.45.144 with SMTP id e16mr6796325qaf.53.1241512414874; > Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:34 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from host.richman.co.il (host.richman.co.il [70.85.251.162]) > by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 4si2979521yxd.49.2009.05.05.01.33.32; Tue, > 05 May 2009 01:33:34 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from bzq-79-179-117-138.red.bezeqint.net > ([79.179.117.138] helo=owner-cf9530ff0) by host.richman.co.il with > esmtpa > (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1G5Z-5Y-LL; > Tue, > 05 May 2009 03:33:22 -0500 > Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:37:58 +0300 > From: Jacob Richman > Subject: Educational websites about Lag Ba'Omer > To: Facebook > Reply-to: jrich...@jr.co.il > Message-id: <4a002516.31906.124...@localhost> > X-Forwarded-for: aschkol...@gmail.com schkol...@013.net.il > MIME-version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) > Content-type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Content-description: Mail message body > Priority: normal > Delivered-to: aschkol...@gmail.com > Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jrich...@jr.co.il designates > 70.85.251.162 as permitted sender) client-ip=70.85.251.162; > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of > jrich...@jr.co.il designates 70.85.251.162 as permitted sender) > smtp.mail=jrich...@jr.co.il > X-Forwarded-To: schkol...@013.net.il > X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, > please include it with any abuse report > X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.richman.co.il > X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gmail.com > X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] > X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jr.co.il > X-Source: > X-Source-Args: > X-Source-Dir: > Status: R > X-Status: N > X-KMail-EncryptionState: > X-KMail-SignatureState: > X-KMail-MDN-Sent: > > Hi Everyone! > > The Jewish festival "Lag Ba'Omer" is Tuesday, May 12, 2009. > If you are flying over Israel on Monday night (11th) and you > look down out of your plane, you will see thousands of bonfires > dotting the landscape as far as the eye can see. There > are various customs and explanations for these celebrations. > > I posted on my website 38 links to learn about "Lag Ba'Omer". > All 38 links have been reviewed / checked this week. > > The web address is: > > http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-hdayla.htm > > I also added Lag Ba'Omer stickers to the Facebook > "Send Jewish Stickers" application at: > http://apps.facebook.com/jewish-stickers/ > > Enjoy the bonfires! > Jacob -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Test] Kmail, Firefox, etc scrambling text -without attachment
Hi ! I have attached a screen shot showing a portion of an email which I received. Note the line which is supposed to say flying over Israel on Monday night, but is scrambled. Below is the email source. The text in the source looks fine ! I see the same sort of thing with Firefox. I am running Fedora 10 with kde 4.2.2. Any ideas ? Does it have to do with my font settings ? TIA ! Return-path: Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com ([209.85.218.213]) by mxin4.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0kj5007gbx1if...@mxin4.netvision.net.il> for schkol...@013.net (ORCPT schkol...@013.net.il); Tue, 05 May 2009 11:33:36 +0300 (IDT) Received: by mail-bw0-f213.google.com with SMTP id 9so4277170bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.100.11 with SMTP id w11mr6676668bkn.32.1241512415925; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.59.66 with SMTP id k2cs7885bkh; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.45.144 with SMTP id e16mr6796325qaf.53.1241512414874; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host.richman.co.il (host.richman.co.il [70.85.251.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 4si2979521yxd.49.2009.05.05.01.33.32; Tue, 05 May 2009 01:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bzq-79-179-117-138.red.bezeqint.net ([79.179.117.138] helo=owner-cf9530ff0)by host.richman.co.il with esmtpa (Exim 4.69)(envelope-from ) id 1M1G5Z-5Y-LL; Tue, 05 May 2009 03:33:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:37:58 +0300 From: Jacob Richman Subject: Educational websites about Lag Ba'Omer To: Facebook Reply-to: jrich...@jr.co.il Message-id: <4a002516.31906.124...@localhost> X-Forwarded-for: aschkol...@gmail.com schkol...@013.net.il MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Delivered-to: aschkol...@gmail.com Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jrich...@jr.co.il designates 70.85.251.162 as permitted sender) client-ip=70.85.251.162; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jrich...@jr.co.il designates 70.85.251.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jrich...@jr.co.il X-Forwarded-To: schkol...@013.net.il X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.richman.co.il X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jr.co.il X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: Hi Everyone! The Jewish festival "Lag Ba'Omer" is Tuesday, May 12, 2009. If you are flying over Israel on Monday night (11th) and you look down out of your plane, you will see thousands of bonfires dotting the landscape as far as the eye can see. There are various customs and explanations for these celebrations. I posted on my website 38 links to learn about "Lag Ba'Omer". All 38 links have been reviewed / checked this week. The web address is: http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-hdayla.htm I also added Lag Ba'Omer stickers to the Facebook "Send Jewish Stickers" application at: http://apps.facebook.com/jewish-stickers/ Enjoy the bonfires! Jacob -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
test - please ignore
-- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
You guessed it - another test
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Re: EFF latest "test your isp" software
I am interested to do these tests. Someone wants to participate with me? On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Moish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.eff.org/testyourisp/switzerland > > Have fun and share results > > moish > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
EFF latest "test your isp" software
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OSDC::Israel and Test Automation Hackathon - Whom to invite?
Hi, You might have already heard that I started to organize the Open Source Developers' Conference Israel to be held in February 2009. The main theme of the conference is Integrating Unit Testing and Test Automation. Around the conference I would like to have a few days of Hackathon to improve the Integration among the various Testing systems. For this I'd like to get some of the central people of the test automation world together. For details of the hackathon see http://act.osdc.org.il/osdc2009il/hackathon.html If this whole thing is interesting for you then 1) register on the conference web page to show interest and to gain write access to the wiki 2) Recommend someone whom you think should attend the hackathon on the wiki. 3) If your company is interested in sponsoring one or more of the attendees please let me know. Forward this message to others whom might be interested. Blog about this in places you know both in Hebrew and English and post a link to the blog here: http://act.osdc.org.il/osdc2009il/wiki?node=PublicRelations regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Test Automation Tips and discussion list
Hi, for some time I thought that the Perl-Tips http://perltraining.com.au/tips/ sent out by Perl Training Australia is a neat idea. To follow my tradition of taking lots of good ideas from the Australians I thought I'd like to have one too. Of course it did not make much sense to create another Perl tips list but now, following the advice of brian d foy, finally the puzzle is complete. What I can really offer is tips on test automation. That's something I know quite a bit about and I don't think others provide such information. It also does not need to be Perl specific. So I setup a mailing list where I can send out these tips. Actually I setup two lists. One for the tips and one for those who might want to discuss ideas on how to automate tests. Go ahead, subscribe to it now as I am going to send out the first message soon. For the tips: http://szabgab.com/mailman/listinfo/test-automation-tips For the discussion: http://szabgab.com/mailman/listinfo/test-automation Of course you might want to know first what am going to write about there? Well, I am not sure yet. You might get an idea if you look at my blog http://www.szabgab.com/blog.html where I have mentioned a few topics already but that might not be enough to convince you that it is worth your time. == Planned Content == So let me think aloud a bit. For sure I'll give tips on how to write better unit tests in Perl. My QA Test Automation using Perl http://www.pti.co.il/qa_automation.html also contains lots of parts on how to test other thing such as web applications, databases, file systems etc. using Perl. I am going to take ideas from there an discuss them on this newsletter. I am also planning to add information on how to write unit tests in other languages - mostly the dynamic flavors - and how to integrate between the tests written in several languages. == Registration == So if these sound interesting, here is the link again: http://szabgab.com/mailman/listinfo/test-automation-tips http://szabgab.com/mailman/listinfo/test-automation This is a double opt-in mailing list, just like most of the lists today. First you have to type in your e-mail address and optionally your name. Then you'll get an e-mail message with instructions on how to finish your subscription. regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/ Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/szabgab = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re:IT question - server Acceptance test
Ira, Some time ago I discovered RH "Red Hat Certification Testing Suites" http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=files with tools/procedures for testing RHEL and RH Cluster Manager. Rgds, Vitaly = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT question - server Acceptance test
Hello people. this question is both generic and specific. I'm googling around for a good answer but none so far. I'm trying to build a standard procedure paper for an acceptance test of a server installation. I think I can sit and write an ATP but I am sure people did it countless times before me and thought of things I haven't, and maybe even developped some clever test scripts for specific subsystems (I suppose it's illogical to make a "generic" all-inclusive test suite, and a big modular one that supports both Debian LAMP and Red Hat plus Oracle is a major undertaking as well). so, has anyone got recommendations for such a paper? Even MS-focusd that I can use as a base to "translate" to *ix? thanks, Ira. -- Do you want fries with that? Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All test page (printer) is black
1. Which printer, driver, CUPS package version? 2. When you print from an app, what does Print Review show? 3. Did you try to change the page color (if your printer is color printer)? 4. How does the printer behave when connected to another PC and/or printed to from another OS or a different printer setup system (such as an older Linux version or a different distribution, I am not speaking about MS-Windows :-) )? On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 23:02, Offer Kaye wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to setup my printer. I'm using Mepis+KDE 3.2.3. > I opened Start menu ( the KDE logo) -> System -> Settings -> Printing > Manager, that opened up a window called "Configure - Printing > Manager". > There I used a wizard to setup my printer (uses CUPS). The problem is, > this wizard has a test page, when I try to print it, I get a black > page. This is also the case if I print from an app (like OO Writer). > Next to the Test (page) button there was a settings button, with stuff > like brightness, contrast etc., all with values between 0-1. The > problem is, I don't know what I should choose as settings, so I won't > get a black page. > Anyone have any idea? > > The printer is recognized correctly, incuding brand+model. > > Thanks in advance, -- My own blog is at http://www.livejournal.com/users/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All test page (printer) is black
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:02:18 -0500, Offer Kaye wrote: > like brightness, contrast etc., all with values between 0-1. The > problem is, I don't know what I should choose as settings, so I won't > get a black page. Okay, found the answer at: http://www-eleves-isia.cma.fr/Doc/gimpprint-4.2.7/users-guide-html/x85.html Final values for now: Brightness, Contrast, Gamma, C/M/Y = 1.0 Density = 0.8 Saturation = 1.2 -- Offer Kaye = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All test page (printer) is black
Hi, I'm trying to setup my printer. I'm using Mepis+KDE 3.2.3. I opened Start menu ( the KDE logo) -> System -> Settings -> Printing Manager, that opened up a window called "Configure - Printing Manager". There I used a wizard to setup my printer (uses CUPS). The problem is, this wizard has a test page, when I try to print it, I get a black page. This is also the case if I print from an app (like OO Writer). Next to the Test (page) button there was a settings button, with stuff like brightness, contrast etc., all with values between 0-1. The problem is, I don't know what I should choose as settings, so I won't get a black page. Anyone have any idea? The printer is recognized correctly, incuding brand+model. Thanks in advance, -- Offer Kaye = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
test message - lap 2
Sorry for that... I installed a courier smtp server, and probably misconfigured it, and it didn't receive mails sent to the list using the domain: cs.huji.ac.il I hope it will be ok now, and i stop mailbombing... Noam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Looking for Cd-based distro to test new comp
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 09:14:47AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Diego Iastrubni wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Hi, Amos, > >>I was very pleased with the hardware recognition of Knoppix (I > >>think it was version 3.2). Out of curiosity I checked it on several > >>computers. Lately I tried PClinuxOS-NV (Mandrake), which was also good. > >>But neither was 100% perfect. > >>You may wish to try a couple of such CD's to make sure (hopefully) that > >>everything is recognized. > >> > >> > >JFYI, they have differnet HW detection code, so it's a good idea to test > >them both. > > > > Yes, that's more or less what I had in mind. > > But apart from the HW detection - once the system is up and running > from a live CD - is there a particular recommanded procedure I should > run in order to check the hardware? Anything beyond "dmesg"? Any tool > particularly made for these distros? > > Thanks, > > --Amos > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi Amos, Sorry that I cannot answer your last question. But I recall a detail about PClinux, which may be worth sharing: On boot, you are given the option to login as guiest or as root, AND ARE ASKED FOR A PASSWORD. This is the same as the login name, ie gust for guest/ root for root. Good luck again, Avraham = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for Cd-based distro to test new comp
Diego Iastrubni wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Amos, I was very pleased with the hardware recognition of Knoppix (I think it was version 3.2). Out of curiosity I checked it on several computers. Lately I tried PClinuxOS-NV (Mandrake), which was also good. But neither was 100% perfect. You may wish to try a couple of such CD's to make sure (hopefully) that everything is recognized. JFYI, they have differnet HW detection code, so it's a good idea to test them both. Yes, that's more or less what I had in mind. But apart from the HW detection - once the system is up and running from a live CD - is there a particular recommanded procedure I should run in order to check the hardware? Anything beyond "dmesg"? Any tool particularly made for these distros? Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for Cd-based distro to test new comp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Amos, I was very pleased with the hardware recognition of Knoppix (I think it was version 3.2). Out of curiosity I checked it on several computers. Lately I tried PClinuxOS-NV (Mandrake), which was also good. But neither was 100% perfect. You may wish to try a couple of such CD's to make sure (hopefully) that everything is recognized. JFYI, they have differnet HW detection code, so it's a good idea to test them both. -- diego, kde-il translation team Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Free MS-Office replacement for most platforms http://www.openoffice.org/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for Cd-based distro to test new comp
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 07:50:22PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I helped my mom order her first computer. We have it without Windows on > it and we hope to have it delivered during next week (Sukot). > > I was wondering how can/should I test that we really got what we ordered > (heard stories about people getting something completly > different/missing parts etc) > and figured that a LiveCD based Linux distro would probably be the best > way to both try to test the machine at the lab before I take it out and > also maybe try to impress the store personel with nice Linux screens. > > So the stress is on: > > 1. Best automatic hardware detection possible (or otherwise allows me to > easely find exactly what kind of hardware is in there, in addition to > actually openeing the case as much as I can). > 2. Nice looks would be a big advantage, but not in expense of (1). > > Going through the "CD-based Linux Distributions and Live Linux CDs" page > at distrowatch.com (http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd) I > concluded that the main choice is between Gnoppix and Knoppix and maybe > some Forensics/Rescuee distros (e.g. F.I.R.E.) that might not answer (2) > very well. > > So - can I count on Gnoppix/Knoppix for such a task? > > Thanks, > > --Amos > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, Amos, I was very pleased with the hardware recognition of Knoppix (I think it was version 3.2). Out of curiosity I checked it on several computers. Lately I tried PClinuxOS-NV (Mandrake), which was also good. But neither was 100% perfect. You may wish to try a couple of such CD's to make sure (hopefully) that everything is recognized. Good lock, Avraham = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for Cd-based distro to test new comp
Hello, I helped my mom order her first computer. We have it without Windows on it and we hope to have it delivered during next week (Sukot). I was wondering how can/should I test that we really got what we ordered (heard stories about people getting something completly different/missing parts etc) and figured that a LiveCD based Linux distro would probably be the best way to both try to test the machine at the lab before I take it out and also maybe try to impress the store personel with nice Linux screens. So the stress is on: 1. Best automatic hardware detection possible (or otherwise allows me to easely find exactly what kind of hardware is in there, in addition to actually openeing the case as much as I can). 2. Nice looks would be a big advantage, but not in expense of (1). Going through the "CD-based Linux Distributions and Live Linux CDs" page at distrowatch.com (http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd) I concluded that the main choice is between Gnoppix and Knoppix and maybe some Forensics/Rescuee distros (e.g. F.I.R.E.) that might not answer (2) very well. So - can I count on Gnoppix/Knoppix for such a task? Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: test
That makes it right? tests FROM the administrator are not acceptable. I owe you a thanks tough. Needed that last push towards the unsubscription. Cheers On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:53:04PM +0200, Aviram Jenik wrote: > Sent with permission from the list administrator :-) > > - Aviram > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.uadm.com | Local and Remote Unix/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Administration. No outsourcing. Phone: +972 3 6201373 | Security, Installations, Support http://www.uadm.com/gpg.key | Upgrades and Maintenance. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Fri, 14 May: > please ignore How can we?! does this mean IGLU is back up and running? :) on Debian? Double Mazal tov to us all! and thanks Tzafrir/shachar for your work! -- Something for everyone Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: test new address - sorry
Sorry, just wanted to see if you like crap in your inbox. I vote to ban people who send crap to the list. Starting with me of course. On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 03:32:03PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > -- > Shlomo Solomon > http://come.to/shlomo.solomon > Sent by KMail 1.5.3 (KDE 3.1.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.2 > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.uadm.com | Local and Remote Unix/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Administration. No outsourcing. Phone: +972 3 6201373 | Security, Installations, Support http://www.uadm.com/gpg.key | Upgrades and Maintenance. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quoting Amir Tal, from the post of Thu, 05 Feb: > back from the dead :) you mean you are back in (+972)? :) -- Fifth wheel Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Q: how to test that nfs lockd is working
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:58:44 +0300 (IDT), Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nathan Fain wrote: > > > > How can i test and verify that the lock manager is working and doing > > it's job over NFS? > > You can't. There is no NFS locking in kernels > 2.4.0 (and maybe > earlier). > > NFS locking used to work, but it never worked well, and the designers of it > could never come up with an ALL-INCLUSIVE locking system for NFS locks, so > they gave up. As Ariel Biener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> stated, NFS locking works on Linux (at least from kernel 2.2.x). The problem you are refering to is addressed by rpc.statd. From its man page: The rpc.statd server implements the NSM (Network Status Monitor) RPC protocol. This service is somewhat misnomed, since it doesn't actually provide active monitoring as one might suspect; instead, NSM implements a reboot notification service. It is used by the NFS file locking service, rpc.lockd, to implement lock recovery when the NFS server machine crashes and reboots. This also solves the lost connection problem - the client reclaims the locks it had before the connection was lost. The remaining problem (the client machine does not release a lock when the locking process ends) can not be solved and is the same as locking on local FS (except that connection to local disk almost never fails). >From my experience I can testify that NFS locking is working on Linux better than on DG/UX (a dying OS) and IRIX (still floating). Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Better Safe Than Sorry = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: how to test that nfs lockd is working
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > You can't. There is no NFS locking in kernels > 2.4.0 (and maybe > earlier). Huh ??? There is lockd, it's just user space not kernel based. It exists, it's needed and improves NFS reliability by a great deal. The mount command supports the lock option for nfs file systems. It is used here on all NFS servers (and clients) running Linux with 2.4.x kernels. --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: how to test that nfs lockd is working
Nathan Fain wrote: > > How can i test and verify that the lock manager is working and doing > it's job over NFS? You can't. There is no NFS locking in kernels > 2.4.0 (and maybe earlier). NFS locking used to work, but it never worked well, and the designers of it could never come up with an ALL-INCLUSIVE locking system for NFS locks, so they gave up. BSDI (and I assume the other "free" BSD systems) also do not support it. The only system I know of that has NFS file locking that works is Solaris, and I may be wrong about that. And to be quite blunt the problems that caused the Linux developers to give up would still exist in the Solaris version. :-( For example, there is no way to determine if a remote task has died and it's time to remove a stale lock. Timneouts won't work without disturbing tasks that access files once an hour. If you can, configure the program to run without flock and to use an alternate locking scheme. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson Bloomberg L.P., BFM (Israel) 2 hours ahead of London, 7 hours ahead of New York. Tel: 972-(0)3-754-1158 Fax 972-(0)3-754-1236 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How can i test and verify that the lock manager is working and doing it's job over NFS? Having trouble running a certain program over NFS (only over nfs) and getting strange lock errors, and have my doubts that despite my impression that it *should* be running and working (ie, rpcinfo shows the nlockmgr running). If you have no leads/clues to give me for the first Q perhaps someone knows what exactly RedHat's linuxconf does when you enable the nfs lock enable option. Reason being: It so happens that the documentation for this application (Cadence) gives direction to, on RedHat, use linuxconf to enable nfs locking. However, I'm trying to get this working on SuSE >). thanks Nathan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hackers-il] Stallman's Printer Driver Test (was: RE: making anon-GPLed module)
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > There is a discussion about GPL related issues in the Linux-IL mailing > list, and since my point is not Linux-specific, I suggest to move the > discussion (if any) to Hackers-IL. > > Everyone, who read the history of FSP, knows that Stallman started the > free software idea after having encountered a problem with a printer > driver.He bought a new printer. The printer's driver lacked a feature, > which he needed very much in order to be able to use the printer in his > network.He tried to get the printer driver modified to include this > feature.But the company, which produced the printer, refused to fix the > driver (low priority for them), or to give him the source code so that he > can fix the driver himself. > > As a result, Stallman was forced to buy another printer. > > In view of the above, I suggest that every time someone argues about the > merits of GPL, LGPL etc., Stallman's Printer Driver Test be applied, where > the test is: > Suppose Stallman's printer driver were licensed under the terms in > question, would Stallman have been able to have the driver fixed according > to his needs?And once the driver was fixed, would Stallman have been > able to share the fix with other people, who bought the same printer and > need the same fix to the driver? There is also the issue of commercial re-distribution. Consider an example that is related to printers, in a way: So how do you consider, for instance, APFL GhostScript? Background: Ghostscript is develped by a company called Aladin. The latest version is available under a license called AFPL (Aladin Free Public License). It basically allows you to do anything you like with it, except selling it. Aladin also makes older versions of GS available under the GNU GPL. This is Gnu Ghostscript. All major linux distros include Gnu Ghostscript. But what would have happened if Aladin wouldn't have had such a policy? AFPL Ghostscript and other programs with "almost free" licenses (pine, qmail) certainly pass the Stallman Printer Driver Test. RMS could have made his modifications available as patches. Anyone else can download the original sources and patch them. But in a way they do limit: Compare the installation of Qmail and Djbdns to the installation of Sendmail and Bind . All for four programs are not trivial to set-up. but sendmail and bind got added to some major linux distros, and as a result, setting them up has become easier. Linux vendors tend to put in some patches that they think are useful (even if the original package maintainer thinks otherwise. Sometimes the original maintainer isn't right). This can save you a whole bunch of troubles when setting up the package. So this test not perfect... -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [hackers-il] Stallman's Printer Driver Test (was: RE: making a non-GPLed module)
> Stallman's Printer Driver Test, as formulated above, has two > non-obvious > consequences: > 1. If GPLed/LGPLed code is used in embedded devices, then a > way needs to >be provided for the customer to update the code. >Such a requirement would have been helpful in overcoming > Y2K problems >in embedded devices, which are date-sensitive > (fortunately, there were >not too many such devices two years ago). > 2. Test cases and test scripts should be considered as part > of software's >source code, as far as copyright and licensing are concerned: >Representing software in unobfuscated (SP?) source code is > necessary to >make it easy to modify the software. >Making test cases available is necessary to make it easy > to modify the >software, by making it safer to modify the software, by making it >possible to certify that one's changes do not have unintended >consequences. 3. Adequate documentation. Its almost the same requirment as the "unobfuscated source code" rule. Free software should be possible to change by people other than the original developer, software distributed without adequate documentation (at least on source level) is virtually impossible to change. Also, while writing the code, the programmer knew what he was doing, when you look at undocumented code, you often have no idea what the coder was doing, this hiding of vital information should be considered obfuscation. Thanks, Chen. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stallman's Printer Driver Test (was: RE: making a non-GPLed module)
There is a discussion about GPL related issues in the Linux-IL mailing list, and since my point is not Linux-specific, I suggest to move the discussion (if any) to Hackers-IL. Everyone, who read the history of FSP, knows that Stallman started the free software idea after having encountered a problem with a printer driver. He bought a new printer. The printer's driver lacked a feature, which he needed very much in order to be able to use the printer in his network. He tried to get the printer driver modified to include this feature. But the company, which produced the printer, refused to fix the driver (low priority for them), or to give him the source code so that he can fix the driver himself. As a result, Stallman was forced to buy another printer. In view of the above, I suggest that every time someone argues about the merits of GPL, LGPL etc., Stallman's Printer Driver Test be applied, where the test is: Suppose Stallman's printer driver were licensed under the terms in question, would Stallman have been able to have the driver fixed according to his needs? And once the driver was fixed, would Stallman have been able to share the fix with other people, who bought the same printer and need the same fix to the driver? If the answer to both questions is YES, then the software is free according to the spirit of GPL, even if not according to the letter of GPL. Stallman's Printer Driver Test, as formulated above, has two non-obvious consequences: 1. If GPLed/LGPLed code is used in embedded devices, then a way needs to be provided for the customer to update the code. Such a requirement would have been helpful in overcoming Y2K problems in embedded devices, which are date-sensitive (fortunately, there were not too many such devices two years ago). 2. Test cases and test scripts should be considered as part of software's source code, as far as copyright and licensing are concerned: Representing software in unobfuscated (SP?) source code is necessary to make it easy to modify the software. Making test cases available is necessary to make it easy to modify the software, by making it safer to modify the software, by making it possible to certify that one's changes do not have unintended consequences. --- Omer There is no IGLU Cabal. None of the proposals, presented to the Official Founders of the IGLU Cabal, passed Stallman's Printer Driver Test. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the missing line of echo -n test?
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > I believe that Debian's bash is compiled with readline support. However I > found this: believe ? that's nice ;-) > [01:53:44 tmp]$ zcat /usr/share/doc/libreadline4/changelog.gz | head -8 > This document details the changes between this version, readline-4.2, > and the previous version, readline-4.1. > > 1. Changes to Readline > > a. When setting the terminal attributes on systems using `struct termio', > readline waits for output to drain before changing the attributes. > > [01:53:59 tmp]$ > > I wonder if this has something to do with the unexpected behavior. what > version of readline does MDK 8 have? MDK8 uses readline 4.1 (it also uses bash 2.04 and not the latest). But I faile to see how this (the changelog entry) could be related : the behaviour I got when executing $ echo -n "test"; sleep 1 was getting the "test" message, a short pause, and then the prompt apeared over it - overwriting the message. I think this suggests that there's no problem of buffering. Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the missing line of echo -n test?
> > Ok, looked at the change log, and nothing sprang out, but I did > somethinking - does Bash on Debian (or whatever system that has a new Bash > and doesn't feature that annoying behaviour) compiles with readline ? > > Anyway - I recompiled Bash from the Mandrake source RPM - this time making > sure to remove the --with-installed-readline option from configure, and > now it doesn't do that anymore - > [oded@computer oded]$ echo -n test > test[oded@computer oded]$ > > yey :-) > so this looks like a readline feature, which bash gets just from using > readline. from looking at the changelog, I think (not a readline expert > here ;-) that it's possible to user readline, w/o letting it draw the > prompt, and thus regain the MDK72 behaviour. > > Oded > I believe that Debian's bash is compiled with readline support. However I found this: [01:53:44 tmp]$ zcat /usr/share/doc/libreadline4/changelog.gz | head -8 This document details the changes between this version, readline-4.2, and the previous version, readline-4.1. 1. Changes to Readline a. When setting the terminal attributes on systems using `struct termio', readline waits for output to drain before changing the attributes. [01:53:59 tmp]$ I wonder if this has something to do with the unexpected behavior. what version of readline does MDK 8 have? > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > Maybe you should check the Bash changelog on whether this is a new thing > > in Bash. I know that in Zsh, for example, this was changed a few years > > ago (5 years? I don't remember), and it was also hard for me to get used > > to it. > > The rationale behind such a change can be that when the shell has a > > suphisticated command-line editor, sometimes it needs to know _exactly_ > > what the current line looks like, because some some changes involve more > > than just backspacing over the last few characters. So if you have some > > unkown characters like "test" before the prompt, the shell can mess up > > the look of the line when it redraws some characters in the wrong place, > > so it prefers to overwrite this "test" word. Previously, when you saw such > > a mess-up, you had to press control-L for the shell to redraw the entire > > line. > > > > Nowadays, whenever I run a program which might output something without > > a new line I run it like > > $ ./test; print > > > > By the way, be careful when naming your program "test" - I've seen, more > > than once, people spending HOURS on trying to figuring out why their program, > > called "test", did not work. Apparently, it printed nothing, and just exited! > > Of course, the "solution" is that "test" is a builtin in most shells (for > > testing existance of files, and stuff like that), so unless you do something > > like ./test, you end up running a builtin test, that for some unknown reason > > (at least to me) doesn't print any error when it doesn't have any arguments... > > > > On Wed, May 02, 2001, Shaul Karl wrote about "Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the >missing line of echo -n test?": > > > Just wondering if there is something new about it? > > > > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the missing line of echo -n test?
Maybe you should check the Bash changelog on whether this is a new thing in Bash. I know that in Zsh, for example, this was changed a few years ago (5 years? I don't remember), and it was also hard for me to get used to it. The rationale behind such a change can be that when the shell has a suphisticated command-line editor, sometimes it needs to know _exactly_ what the current line looks like, because some some changes involve more than just backspacing over the last few characters. So if you have some unkown characters like "test" before the prompt, the shell can mess up the look of the line when it redraws some characters in the wrong place, so it prefers to overwrite this "test" word. Previously, when you saw such a mess-up, you had to press control-L for the shell to redraw the entire line. Nowadays, whenever I run a program which might output something without a new line I run it like $ ./test; print By the way, be careful when naming your program "test" - I've seen, more than once, people spending HOURS on trying to figuring out why their program, called "test", did not work. Apparently, it printed nothing, and just exited! Of course, the "solution" is that "test" is a builtin in most shells (for testing existance of files, and stuff like that), so unless you do something like ./test, you end up running a builtin test, that for some unknown reason (at least to me) doesn't print any error when it doesn't have any arguments... On Wed, May 02, 2001, Shaul Karl wrote about "Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the missing line of echo -n test?": > Just wondering if there is something new about it? > > > We have a program which writes a single line (with no new line) to stdout > > and quits - this small test program is a good example: > > .. > > Now, on a MDK72 and any other well behaving 2.2 distro running this would > > get you something like this : > > --- > > [user@computer user]$ ./test > > test[user@computer user]$ > > --- > > But on MDK8 I got this : > > --- > > [user@computer user]$ ./test > > [user@computer user]$ > > --- > > .. > > it seems that the Mandrake 8 default shell - bash 2.04.18 - sends a > > carriage return before printing it's prompt - overwriting everything > > written on the same line, as this revised code shows: > > .. -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, May 2 2001, 9 Iyyar 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Long periods of drought are always http://nadav.harel.org.il |followed by rain. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anything new with Mandrake 8 and the missing line of echo -n test?
Just wondering if there is something new about it?
> Hi list.
>
> We've just solved this really weird problem with Mandrake 8 (well - solved
> is a harsh word - let's say : we found it why we were going in circles and
> wanted to show you the way in case you get lost too :-), which made my
> life a bit diificult in the last three days or so -
>
> We have a program which writes a single line (with no new line) to stdout
> and quits - this small test program is a good example:
>
> #include <string.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main (int argc, char* argv[]) {
> char temp[200];
>
> sprintf(temp,"test");
> write(1,temp,strlen(temp));
> return 0;
> }
> ---
>
> Now, on a MDK72 and any other well behaving 2.2 distro running this would
> get you something like this :
> ---
> [user@computer user]$ ./test
> test[user@computer user]$
> ---
> But on MDK8 I got this :
> ---
> [user@computer user]$ ./test
> [user@computer user]$
> ---
> no mention of the output text at all. redirecting stdout to a file and
> 'cat'ing the file it seemed like it does not do output at all.
> stracing proved that not only it does call write() it actually prints what
> I want it to print.
> Although at first we thought we had a glibc flush problem (the original
> program uses printf) or (weird as it may seem) a kernel buffer flushing
> problem, and we were about to raise hell on the kernel development mailing
> list - the solution was pretty simple :
>
> it seems that the Mandrake 8 default shell - bash 2.04.18 - sends a
> carriage return before printing it's prompt - overwriting everything
> written on the same line, as this revised code shows:
>
> #include <string.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main (int argc, char* argv[]) {
> char temp[200];
>
> sprintf(temp,"test");
> write(1,temp,strlen(temp));
> sleep(1);
> return 0;
> }
> ---
>
> simply annoying.
> I was wandering if I should report this as a bug, and if so - to how ?
> Mandrake ?
>
> Oded
>
> p.s. -
> All you csh lovers, please no flaims as to the superiority of tcsh over
> bash, this is not a good example, as even considering this minor
> anoyance, Bash is clearly supreme ;-)
>
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pptp patch to be submitted to maintainer- please test!
hi everyone
i cleaned up the patch to pptp and put up a new pptp-mulix-0.06.tar.gz
at http://www.pointer.co.il/~mulix/
ADSL users, and especially alcatel and orckit ATUR3 users, please test
and verify that it works for you.
as soon as i get positive test results i will forward the patch onwards
to the pptp maintainer and hopefully get it incorporated into the main
pptp tree.
patch attached below
--
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http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix
linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead
diff -u -r -b pptp-linux-1.0.2/Makefile pptp-mulix/Makefile
--- pptp-linux-1.0.2/Makefile Thu Feb 19 00:42:14 1998
+++ pptp-mulix/Makefile Sat Feb 3 16:04:43 2001
@@ -1,10 +1,11 @@
VERSION = 1.0.2
VERSION_DEFINE = '-DPPTP_LINUX_VERSION="${VERSION}"'
+PROTOCOL_DEFINE = '-DPPTP_BEZEQ_ISRAEL=1'
CC = gcc -Wall
DEBUG = -g
INCLUDE =
-CFLAGS = -O9 $(VERSION_DEFINE) $(DEBUG) $(INCLUDE)
+CFLAGS = -O9 $(VERSION_DEFINE) $(PROTOCOL_DEFINE) $(DEBUG) $(INCLUDE)
LIBS =
LDFLAGS=
@@ -36,7 +37,7 @@
$(CC) -o vector_test vector_test.o vector.o
clean:
- $(RM) *.o *~
+ $(RM) *.o *~ $(PPTP_BIN) $(CALLMGR_BIN) core
clobber: clean
$(RM) $(PPTP_BIN) $(CALLMGR_BIN) vector_test
Only in pptp-mulix/: pptp-linux-1.0.2-mulix.diff
diff -u -r -b pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp.c pptp-mulix/pptp.c
--- pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp.c Thu Feb 19 00:42:14 1998
+++ pptp-mulix/pptp.c Tue Jan 16 23:57:02 2001
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
/* pptp.c ... client shell to launch call managers, data handlers, and
*the pppd from the command line.
*C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+ *patched by mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*
* $Id: pptp.c,v 1.7 1997/12/16 11:38:48 cananian Exp $
*/
@@ -40,6 +41,7 @@
void usage(char *progname) {
fprintf(stderr,
"%s\n"
+ "patched by mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n"
"Usage:\n"
" %s hostname [pppd options]\n", version, progname);
exit(1);
@@ -69,6 +71,7 @@
usage(argv[0]);
/* Step 1: Get IP address for the hostname in argv[1] */
+ log("trying to connect to '%s'\n", argv[1]);
inetaddr = get_ip_address(argv[1]);
/* Step 2: Open connection to call manager
diff -u -r -b pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp_callmgr.c pptp-mulix/pptp_callmgr.c
--- pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp_callmgr.c Thu Feb 19 00:42:14 1998
+++ pptp-mulix/pptp_callmgr.c Wed Jan 17 00:11:02 2001
@@ -186,6 +186,7 @@
struct local_callinfo *lci;
int s;
+ log("new call!");
/* Accept the socket */
if ((s = accept(unix_sock, (struct sockaddr *) &from, &len))<0) {
warn("Socket not accepted: %s", strerror(errno));
diff -u -r -b pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp_ctrl.c pptp-mulix/pptp_ctrl.c
--- pptp-linux-1.0.2/pptp_ctrl.cThu Feb 19 00:42:14 1998
+++ pptp-mulix/pptp_ctrl.c Sat Feb 3 16:02:39 2001
@@ -206,10 +206,15 @@
{
struct pptp_out_call_rqst packet = {
PPTP_HEADER_CTRL(PPTP_OUT_CALL_RQST),
- hton16(call->call_id), hton16(call->sernum),
+ 0, /* hton16(call->callid) */
+ 0, /* hton16(call->sernum) */
hton32(PPTP_BPS_MIN), hton32(PPTP_BPS_MAX),
+#ifndef PPTP_BEZEQ_ISRAEL
hton32(PPTP_BEARER_CAP), hton32(PPTP_FRAME_CAP),
- hton16(PPTP_WINDOW), 0, 0, 0, {0}, {0}
+#else
+ hton32(PPTP_BEARER_DIGITAL), hton32(PPTP_FRAME_ANY),
+#endif
+ hton16(PPTP_WINDOW), 0, hton16(PPTP_HOSTNAME_LEN),0, PPTP_HOSTNAME, {0}
};
if (pptp_send_ctrl_packet(conn, &packet, sizeof(packet))) {
pptp_reset_timer();
@@ -458,6 +463,22 @@
}
}
+static void
+pptp_set_link(PPTP_CONN* conn, int peer_call_id)
+{
+ struct pptp_set_link_info packet = {
+ PPTP_HEADER_CTRL(PPTP_SET_LINK_INFO),
+ hton16(peer_call_id),
+ 0,
+ 0x,
+ 0x};
+
+ if (pptp_send_ctrl_packet(conn, &packet, sizeof(packet))) {
+ log("pptp_set_link() packet sending succesfull");
+ pptp_reset_timer();
+ }
+}
+
void pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet(PPTP_CONN * conn, void * buffer, size_t size) {
struct pptp_header *header = (struct pptp_header *)buffer;
u_int8_t close_reason = PPTP_STOP_NONE;
@@ -513,7 +534,10 @@
close_reason = PPTP_STOP_PROTOCOL;
goto pptp_conn_close;
}
- if (ntoh8(packet->result_code)!=1) { /* some problem with start */
+ /* alcatel modems in used israel require this change to function correctly*/
+ /* QUESTION: result code 0 does not appear in pptp-draft ? */
+ if ((ntoh8(packet->result_code)!=1) && (ntoh8(packet->result_code)!=0)){
+ /*some problem with start */
/* if result_code == 5, we might fall back to different version */
if (conn->callback!=NULL) conn->callback(conn, CONN_OPEN_FAIL);
close_reason
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