What Dist for a servers
I'm going to install a new server and as usual im asking my self what distro should I use. Until now I used Redhat and the latest version installed is 7.3, which work very well. What about Fedora ? is it suitable for a web server or any other server ? Or its better if I buy a Server OS from Redhat / suse / mandrake ? What about Debian ? is it suitable to such task without allot of hassle around ? And if I already dive into free systems why not use Gentoo which is amazingly fast but require lots of work around it. I know there is no one true around this subject, but ill be happy to hear some feedbacks. Thanks -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I'm going to install a new server and as usual im asking my self what distro should I use. Until now I used Redhat and the latest version installed is 7.3, which work very well. What about Fedora ? is it suitable for a web server or any other server ? Or its better if I buy a Server OS from Redhat / suse / mandrake ? What about Debian ? is it suitable to such task without allot of hassle around ? And if I already dive into free systems why not use Gentoo which is amazingly fast but require lots of work around it. I know there is no one true around this subject, but ill be happy to hear some feedbacks. I'm facing the same question myself at the moment. I used Redhat, but now the lack of updates suggests moving to some other distro. IMHO -- Fedora is still the new kid -- time will tell how much support it will gain. Gentoo I believe is too much of a hassle. I use it at home, for a server the critical aspectes for me are easy maintenance and quick responses to new security volunrabilities. With gentoo a security update is a recompile. I'm leaning towards Debian at the moment -- it has a wide user base, uses the great apt system (though Fedora can use it too, I guess), and generates new security updates quickly. Anyone can contradict that? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
- Original Message - From: Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: What Dist for a servers I'm leaning towards Debian at the moment -- it has a wide user base, uses the great apt system (though Fedora can use it too, I guess), and generates new security updates quickly. Anyone can contradict that? Isnt debian very slow in releasing updates for her stable tree ? also im not relly familiur with debian,for example how much power i have in selecting which php to use: version, flags, etc ... -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
Do you want to start a distro war? I think that everybody has his own opinion on this subject. I have tried Red-Hat 7.3, Mandrake 9.1, Red-Hat 9.0 and Debian If you install debian, you are about to have a hard time installing it but... Once you get it installed it is the easiest distribution to upgrade (well nowadays fedora also has APT so what I am saying might be wrong, I did not try fedora). Debian has a vast selection of packages for all tasks you can think of, I use debian on the desktop and not on a server. However the distro works a little bit different when it comes to network definitions etc. so it will take some time when you start just to get used to it. Since you already know Red-Hat, than if you go to Fedora, or Mandrake I think it will not be hard for you to install or using it, since installation is done by a good software with decent hardware recognition. Also the definitions and locations of network scripts etc. are very similar to what you know in Red-Hat 7.3 As for SUSE, I have no idea, I have never used it and never installed it. -- Ori Idan Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I'm going to install a new server and as usual im asking my self what distro should I use. Until now I used Redhat and the latest version installed is 7.3, which work very well. What about Fedora ? is it suitable for a web server or any other server ? Or its better if I buy a Server OS from Redhat / suse / mandrake ? What about Debian ? is it suitable to such task without allot of hassle around ? And if I already dive into free systems why not use Gentoo which is amazingly fast but require lots of work around it. I know there is no one true around this subject, but ill be happy to hear some feedbacks. Thanks -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:50:52PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: - Original Message - From: Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: What Dist for a servers I'm leaning towards Debian at the moment -- it has a wide user base, uses the great apt system (though Fedora can use it too, I guess), and generates new security updates quickly. Anyone can contradict that? Isnt debian very slow in releasing updates for her stable tree ? Debian release almost no updates to stable, only bug fixes (and usually after some time only security-related ones). In that, they are quite fast - I guess more-or-less as other distros. also im not relly familiur with debian,for example how much power i have in selecting which php to use: version, flags, etc ... Debian has: In stable - php3 (3.0.18), php4 (4.1.2). In unstable - php3 (3.0.18), php4 (4.3.3). If by flags you mean 'things you usually change only during compilation' then of course you don't have control over that, unless you compile by yourself. I don't think other distros are different - actually, Debian does have such packages, which I think other distros don't, but not php. E.g. they have emacs21-nox and emacs21, ickle and ickle-gnome, various versions of vim, libapache-mod-acct-mysql and libapache-mod-acct-pgsql, libsdl1.2debian-all and libsdl1.2debian-arts and libsdl1.2debian-esd and libsdl1.2debian-oss, etc. -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
Yes, debian is slow in releasing updates for the stable tree (that does not include security updates as much as I know). However you can be sure that what they have in their stable tree is absolutily stable. You can use the unstable tree that in my opinion is stable enough. Ben-Nes Michael wrote: - Original Message - From: Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: What Dist for a servers I'm leaning towards Debian at the moment -- it has a wide user base, uses the great apt system (though Fedora can use it too, I guess), and generates new security updates quickly. Anyone can contradict that? Isnt debian very slow in releasing updates for her stable tree ? also im not relly familiur with debian,for example how much power i have in selecting which php to use: version, flags, etc ... -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
I know some people/companies that use Debian for servers... I don't hear complains. I think Debian is a great choice. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: What Dist for a servers Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I'm going to install a new server and as usual im asking my self what distro should I use. Until now I used Redhat and the latest version installed is 7.3, which work very well. What about Fedora ? is it suitable for a web server or any other server ? Or its better if I buy a Server OS from Redhat / suse / mandrake ? What about Debian ? is it suitable to such task without allot of hassle around ? And if I already dive into free systems why not use Gentoo which is amazingly fast but require lots of work around it. I know there is no one true around this subject, but ill be happy to hear some feedbacks. I'm facing the same question myself at the moment. I used Redhat, but now the lack of updates suggests moving to some other distro. IMHO -- Fedora is still the new kid -- time will tell how much support it will gain. Gentoo I believe is too much of a hassle. I use it at home, for a server the critical aspectes for me are easy maintenance and quick responses to new security volunrabilities. With gentoo a security update is a recompile. I'm leaning towards Debian at the moment -- it has a wide user base, uses the great apt system (though Fedora can use it too, I guess), and generates new security updates quickly. Anyone can contradict that? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What Dist for a servers
The part about hard to install isn't true. 1. The installation isn't a graphical, but still easy. 2. Woody's hardware recognition isn't as good as other distros. Don't forget its 1.5 years old. 3. Debian Sarge installer is a huge leap in hardware recognition. Sarge is now in testing to be stable in the future. Debian has a very organized mechanism for security updates... just two apt-get commands about you know you have the last security updates. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: Re: What Dist for a servers Do you want to start a distro war? I think that everybody has his own opinion on this subject. I have tried Red-Hat 7.3, Mandrake 9.1, Red-Hat 9.0 and Debian If you install debian, you are about to have a hard time installing it but... Once you get it installed it is the easiest distribution to upgrade (well nowadays fedora also has APT so what I am saying might be wrong, I did not try fedora). Debian has a vast selection of packages for all tasks you can think of, I use debian on the desktop and not on a server. However the distro works a little bit different when it comes to network definitions etc. so it will take some time when you start just to get used to it. Since you already know Red-Hat, than if you go to Fedora, or Mandrake I think it will not be hard for you to install or using it, since installation is done by a good software with decent hardware recognition. Also the definitions and locations of network scripts etc. are very similar to what you know in Red-Hat 7.3 As for SUSE, I have no idea, I have never used it and never installed it. -- Ori Idan Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I'm going to install a new server and as usual im asking my self what distro should I use. Until now I used Redhat and the latest version installed is 7.3, which work very well. What about Fedora ? is it suitable for a web server or any other server ? Or its better if I buy a Server OS from Redhat / suse / mandrake ? What about Debian ? is it suitable to such task without allot of hassle around ? And if I already dive into free systems why not use Gentoo which is amazingly fast but require lots of work around it. I know there is no one true around this subject, but ill be happy to hear some feedbacks. Thanks -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
