Re: X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Boaz Rymland
I don't know if this could help but if you are in a need for some 
non-standard modelines for X, trying to bypass some limitations, the 
following might help calculating such modelines:

http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html
http://zaph.com/Modeline/
http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
Boaz.

Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them 
in when I have them again.

I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't 
have exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest 
to install.

It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At 
least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work.

However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest 
resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, 
I can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but 
discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what 
it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no 
problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).

Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also 
think of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have 
high availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the 
information I might need in advance.

 Shachar



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Re: X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi,

It pretty much seems to be incorrect H and V frequencies 
detected.check XF86Config with manuals.  Also check modes in 
XF86Config.

behdad


On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in 
> when I have them again.
> 
> I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have 
> exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to 
> install.
> 
> It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At 
> least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work.
> 
> However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest 
> resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I 
> can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but 
> discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what 
> it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no 
> problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).
> 
> Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think 
> of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high 
> availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information 
> I might need in advance.
> 
>   Shachar
> 
> 

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Re: X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

Could you give me the Dell model name and number please?

To me, it seems it identied the amount of ram for X wrongly...

Thanks,
Hetz

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Subject: X won't give high-res with high colors


> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in 
> when I have them again.
> 
> I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have 
> exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to 
> install.
> 
> It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At 
> least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work.
> 
> However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest 
> resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I 
> can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but 
> discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what 
> it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no 
> problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).
> 
> Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think 
> of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high 
> availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information 
> I might need in advance.
> 
>   Shachar
> 
> -- 
> Shachar Shemesh
> Open Source integration consultant
> Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/
> 
> 
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Re: X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Oleg Kobets
If the GPU is NVIDIA, then you need to install their drivers, otherwise X
(sometimes) detects it wrong and uses the nv driver instead of nvidia.

If it's not nvidia gpu, then post what is the hardware specs and the x log,
if poossible.

Oleg.

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From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: X won't give high-res with high colors


> Hi all,
>
> Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in
> when I have them again.
>
> I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have
> exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to
> install.
>
> It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At
> least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work.
>
> However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest
> resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I
> can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but
> discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what
> it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no
> problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).
>
> Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think
> of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high
> availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information
> I might need in advance.
>
>   Shachar
>
> -- 
> Shachar Shemesh
> Open Source integration consultant
> Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/
>
>
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Re: X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 
> However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest
> resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I
> can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but
> discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what
> it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no
> problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).

I'm not a real expert, but I think resolution detection works like this
(pseudocode):

foreach ( res in vesa_resolutions ) {

 if ( monitor_supports( res, depth ) ) {

  set_resolution( res, depth );
  break;
 }
}

if ( resolution_still_unset ) {

   fail (X);

}

Although I think it also tries other depths in an outer loop if your depth
doesn't match, but I'm not sure.

I think your problem is that laptop monitors have resolutions that don't
necessarily match vesa standard resolutions, so you either have to give a
specific modeline (complete voodo), or hope that one of the monitor resolution
matches a vesa resolution. I would venture further to guess that the highest
vesa resolution supported by your monitor takes too much memory from the
graphics card to support full depth.

Herouth

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X won't give high-res with high colors

2003-09-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all,

Sorry that this post is a little scarce on details. I will fill them in 
when I have them again.

I am installing Linux on my sister's laptop (a Dell centrino, don't have 
exact model). I went for RH9 because that's what would be fastest to 
install.

It correctly detected almost everything (sound, display adapter). At 
least, I think it did. Everything seemed to work.

However, when X is set up for 16 or 32 bits/pixel, the highest 
resolution available seem to be 640x480. Looking at the X startup log, I 
can see that the system detects resolutions of up to 1280x1024, but 
discards them all as non-matching (I did not manage to understand what 
it was they did not match). When I set the color depth to 8, X has no 
problem starting at 1024x768 (the highest the LCD will support).

Can anyone think of a reason without the X log available, and also think 
of what I may need to look at besides the X log? I don't have high 
availability of the laptop, so I'm trying to pick up all the information 
I might need in advance.

 Shachar

--
Shachar Shemesh
Open Source integration consultant
Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/


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