Re: boot messages
OK - more info. I´ve come to the conclusion that something is seriously fucked-up with permissions, but I have no idea how to fix it. As I wrote earlier, I´m now using a rescue partition on the same box. So, in effect, I can mount any partitions I want to. I mounted /usr as /-usr and tried running random programs from that partition. Nothing runs, even thoug the permissions SEEM to be OK. Hereś a random example of runnng rpmquery. I hope it´s clear what I´ve done here, but to be sure, I´ĺl add some comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # rpmquery runs normally on my rescue system [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # same result if I specify the path [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm bash: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # if I use a path that runs the same program, but from my real system´s /usr partition, I have no permission [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery ls: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # I can´t even see the file [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # but root CAN run the program [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery lrwxrwxrwx 1 rpm rpm 15 Nov 30 2006 /-usr/bin/rpmquery - ../lib/rpm/rpmq* # and root can see what seems to be normal permissions - note that it´s a link [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq -rwxr-xr-x 1 rpm rpm 11296 Nov 6 2006 /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq* # and just to be sure, here root is seeing the permissions of the actual file - still OK for read and exec [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# So why can´t solomon see or run programs in /-usr? This must be connected to my login problem. There are obviously actions that need to be done to complete the login and permissions prevent them from being done.
Re: boot messages
On Friday 21 December 2007 11:17:23 shlomo solomon wrote: OK - more info. I´ve come to the conclusion that something is seriously fucked-up with permissions, but I have no idea how to fix it. As I wrote earlier, I´m now using a rescue partition on the same box. So, in effect, I can mount any partitions I want to. I mounted /usr as /-usr and tried running random programs from that partition. Nothing runs, even thoug the permissions SEEM to be OK. Here¶ a random example of runnng rpmquery. I hope it´s clear what I´ve done here, but to be sure, I´וl add some comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # rpmquery runs normally on my rescue system [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # same result if I specify the path [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm bash: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # if I use a path that runs the same program, but from my real system´s /usr partition, I have no permission [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery ls: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # I can´t even see the file [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # but root CAN run the program [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery lrwxrwxrwx 1 rpm rpm 15 Nov 30 2006 /-usr/bin/rpmquery - ../lib/rpm/rpmq* # and root can see what seems to be normal permissions - note that it´s a link [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq -rwxr-xr-x 1 rpm rpm 11296 Nov 6 2006 /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq* # and just to be sure, here root is seeing the permissions of the actual file - still OK for read and exec [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# So why can´t solomon see or run programs in /-usr? This must be connected to my login problem. There are obviously actions that need to be done to complete the login and permissions prevent them from being done. Can you ls on dirs above this file from your user, and see their permission? Remember that you need to have +x for your user on all the directories above the file/dir you're trying to access... Perhaps you have something it your (solomon user) login script (.profile, *rc files, etc) that makes this happen. I once saw a developer playing with things like the env variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH in his login script, and as a result, the dynamic loader went crazy and caused similar effects. And of course - strace -f is your friend if nothing else works :-) -- Shimi To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 11:30 AM, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you use strace to see the exac reason for the permission error ? I ran ls -la, but I have no idea what I´m looking for. Hereś the output. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery ls: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ clear [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery ls: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ strace ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery execve(/bin/ls, [ls, -la, /-usr/bin/rpmquery], [/* 62 vars */]) = 0 brk(0) = 0x805e000 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7fc6000 access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=50427, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 50427, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0xb7fb9000 close(4)= 0 open(/lib/i686/librt.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 4 read(4, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\360\34..., 512) = 512 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=30584, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 33356, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0) = 0xb7fb mmap2(0xb7fb7000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0x6) = 0xb7fb7000 close(4)= 0 open(/lib/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 4 read(4, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240X\1..., 512) = 512 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1220244, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1230204, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0) = 0xb7e83000 mmap2(0xb7faa000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0x126) = 0xb7faa000 mmap2(0xb7fad000, 9596, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7fad000 close(4)= 0 open(/lib/i686/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 4 read(4, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 K\0\000..., 512) = 512 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=90680, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 74208, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0) = 0xb7e7 mmap2(0xb7e7f000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 4, 0xe) = 0xb7e7f000 mmap2(0xb7e81000, 4576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7e81000 close(4)= 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7e6f000 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7e6fab0, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 mprotect(0xb7faa000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xb7fdf000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xb7fb9000, 50427) = 0 set_tid_address(0xb7e6faf8) = 15123 sendto(-1209599232, umovestr: Input/output error 0xc, 3085434868, MSG_PROXY|MSG_EOR|MSG_TRUNC|MSG_ERRQUEUE|MSG_CONFIRM|MSG_FIN|MSG_RST|MSG_NOSIGNAL|MSG_MORE|0xb7e6, ptrace: umoven: Input/output error {...}, 3216877960) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0xb7e746e0, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0xb7e745f0, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0 getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=8192*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0 _sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xbfbda6e0, 35, (nil), 0}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x805e000 brk(0x807f000) = 0x807f000 open(/usr/share/locale/locale-archive, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/locale.alias, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2586, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7e4f000 read(4, # Locale name alias data base.\n#..., 131072) = 2586 read(4, , 131072) = 0 close(4)= 0 munmap(0xb7e4f000, 131072) = 0 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_IDENTIFICATION, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=373, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 373, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0xb7fc5000 close(4)= 0 open(/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=26026, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 26026, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 4, 0) = 0xb7fbe000 close(4)= 0 futex(0xb7faca4c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MEASUREMENT, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=23, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 23, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0xb7fbd000 close(4)= 0 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TELEPHONE, O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 59, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0xb7fbc000 close(4)= 0
Re: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 12:17 PM, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you ls on dirs above this file from your user, and see their permission? Remember that you need to have +x for your user on all the directories above the file/dir you're trying to access... everything seems OK Perhaps you have something it your (solomon user) login script (.profile, *rc files, etc) that makes this happen. I once saw a developer playing with things like the env variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH in his login script, and as a result, the dynamic loader went crazy and caused similar effects. I didn´t (knowingly) make any changes and untill yesterday, the system has worked for years. In any case, the problem is with ALL users - including a new user I just created after the problem started. And of course - strace -f is your friend if nothing else works :-) see my previous post in answer to Lior To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 12:27 PM, Alex Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check group and other permissions on all directories recursively to see which folder blocks your normal user from accessing the file. did that and I don see a problem. -rwxr-xr-x 1 rpm rpm 11296 Nov 6 2006 /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq* from the looks of it, either lib/ or rpm/ have invalid permissions. As I already wrote, trying to run rpmq was just an example - I can run anything in /usr/bin = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 12:35 PM, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you run stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery stat: cannot stat `/-usr/bin/rpmquery': Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery File: `/-usr/bin/rpmquery' - `../lib/rpm/rpmq' Size: 15 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 131072 symbolic link Device: 809h/2057d Inode: 2210Links: 1 Access: (0777/lrwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 13/ rpm) Gid: ( 101/ rpm) Access: 2007-12-21 10:52:02.0 +0200 Modify: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 Change: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot messages
Check group and other permissions on all directories recursively to see which folder blocks your normal user from accessing the file. -rwxr-xr-x 1 rpm rpm 11296 Nov 6 2006 /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq* from the looks of it, either lib/ or rpm/ have invalid permissions. Alex On Dec 21, 2007 11:17 AM, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - more info. I´ve come to the conclusion that something is seriously fucked-up with permissions, but I have no idea how to fix it. As I wrote earlier, I´m now using a rescue partition on the same box. So, in effect, I can mount any partitions I want to. I mounted /usr as /-usr and tried running random programs from that partition. Nothing runs, even thoug the permissions SEEM to be OK. Hereś a random example of runnng rpmquery. I hope it´s clear what I´ve done here, but to be sure, I´ĺl add some comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # rpmquery runs normally on my rescue system [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # same result if I specify the path [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm bash: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # if I use a path that runs the same program, but from my real system´s /usr partition, I have no permission [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery ls: /-usr/bin/rpmquery: Permission denied # I can´t even see the file [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# /-usr/bin/rpmquery xterm xterm-215-4mdv2007.0 # but root CAN run the program [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery lrwxrwxrwx 1 rpm rpm 15 Nov 30 2006 /-usr/bin/rpmquery - ../lib/rpm/rpmq* # and root can see what seems to be normal permissions - note that it´s a link [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# ls -la /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq -rwxr-xr-x 1 rpm rpm 11296 Nov 6 2006 /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq* # and just to be sure, here root is seeing the permissions of the actual file - still OK for read and exec [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# So why can´t solomon see or run programs in /-usr? This must be connected to my login problem. There are obviously actions that need to be done to complete the login and permissions prevent them from being done. -- | | Alex Alexander | http://linuxized.blogspot.com | http://www.nerd.gr \
Re: boot messages
On Friday 21 December 2007 12:49:06 shlomo solomon wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 12:35 PM, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you run stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery stat: cannot stat `/-usr/bin/rpmquery': Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# stat /-usr/bin/rpmquery File: `/-usr/bin/rpmquery' - `../lib/rpm/rpmq' Size: 15 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 131072 symbolic link Device: 809h/2057d Inode: 2210Links: 1 Access: (0777/lrwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 13/ rpm) Gid: ( 101/ rpm) Access: 2007-12-21 10:52:02.0 +0200 Modify: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 Change: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# stat /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq is a better idea, I think. -- Shimi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 1:09 PM, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stat /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq is a better idea, I think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# stat /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq File: `/-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq' Size: 11296 Blocks: 24 IO Block: 131072 regular file Device: 809h/2057d Inode: 2256Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 13/ rpm) Gid: ( 101/ rpm) Access: 2007-12-21 11:08:38.0 +0200 Modify: 2006-11-06 22:10:25.0 +0200 Change: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot messages
how about (root) chmod 755 /-usr/lib/ chmod 755 /-usr/lib/rpm/ /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq or (root) chmod 755 /-usr/bin/ /-usr/bin/rpmquery ? On Dec 21, 2007 1:40 PM, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 1:09 PM, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stat /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq is a better idea, I think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# stat /-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq File: `/-usr/lib/rpm/rpmq' Size: 11296 Blocks: 24 IO Block: 131072 regular file Device: 809h/2057d Inode: 2256Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 13/ rpm) Gid: ( 101/ rpm) Access: 2007-12-21 11:08:38.0 +0200 Modify: 2006-11-06 22:10:25.0 +0200 Change: 2006-11-30 02:19:57.0 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | | Alex Alexander | http://linuxized.blogspot.com | http://www.nerd.gr \
Re: Fwd: boot messages
I compared your strace with strace in my system when running ls -la . Since my system is Debian Etch, may I suggest that you request someone, who is running Mandriva like you, to run strace and E-mail you his strace output for comparison with yours? On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 12:20 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 11:30 AM, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ strace ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery [... snipped ...] set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7e6fab0, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 mprotect(0xb7faa000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xb7fdf000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xb7fb9000, 50427) = 0 set_tid_address(0xb7e6faf8) = 15123 sendto(-1209599232, umovestr: Input/output error 0xc, 3085434868, MSG_PROXY|MSG_EOR|MSG_TRUNC|MSG_ERRQUEUE|MSG_CONFIRM|MSG_FIN|MSG_RST|MSG_NOSIGNAL|MSG_MORE|0xb7e6, ptrace: umoven: Input/output error {...}, 3216877960) = 0 The above is an I/O error which I do not see in my system's strace. Google has a lot of stuff about umoven I/O error, but included no explanations or solutions. Some people said that those errors are normal in straces. open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, : Permission denied, 19: Permission denied) = 19 write(2, \n, 1 ) = 1 You may be having a problem with /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: boot messages
On Dec 21, 2007 3:39 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Shlomo! I'm attaching my strace ls -la /usr/bin/rpmquery dump compressed. I tried comparing to my ls -la results, but after only 2 or 3 lines, there is almost no similarity. I don´t know what to look for. I see (in your strace) alot of referals to specific files that are not relevant to my system. So I don´t know what a ¨normal strace output should be. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boot messages
When I boot, I see hundreds of messages flying off the screen faster than I can read them - some of them error messages. Alot, BUT NOT ALL, of the messages can be seen with dmesg, but there are many messages that I can´t see there or in the logs (unless, of course there are additional logs I haven´t checked). This is probably related to my previous, unsolved issue aboout not being able to login, because I´m pretty sure that in the past I didn´t see error messages during boot. Can anyone suggest how to slow down the messages and/or capture them into a file I can see after booting. In case I didn mention it earlier, my system is Mandriva 2007.0 with all upgrades.. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]