Re: can the BIOS be changed from Linux? - failed overclocking with new computer

2009-10-30 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:40 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 07:28 +0200, lior wrote:
  On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:44:17 +0200, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote:
   I just bought a new computer, install Ubuntu 9.10 beta (not the RC as
   it was not out yet)
   and after I try to reboot, the computer does not even reach the BIOS
   boot sequence.
   (blank screen).
   After letting it rest for some time I can turn it on, then it gets to
   the BIOS boot and displays the
   following error:
  
   Warning!!! The previous overclocking had failed, and system will
   restore its default setting.
   Press any key to continue...
  
   Pressing a key makes it boot but the happens again after one or two
   bootings.
  
   Oh, an *I* have not touched the BIOS and *I* did not configure
   overclocking.
  
   I already took the computer back once and they told me about some rare
   thing that happens
   only once every 2 years that the BIOS is flips.
   I think they just either did not configure it well or for some reason
   it gets broken after the first boot.
   Or something is broken or incompatible in the hardware.
  
  
   The question if Linux might change the BIOS or cause this problem?
   If not, what do you think could be the reason and the fix?
  
   Here are the details of the computer (from the order form) just in
   case someone can see
   some parts that do not work well with Linux or with each other.
  
   CPU: Q8200 2.33 Gh 4MB Core 2 Quad
   mother board: G41M-E43 DDR3 HDMI MSI
   screen card: Nvidia GeForce 9400Gt 512MB P.P.View
   HD: 500 Gb SATA2 16 Mb Hitachi
   Memory: CL7 DBT GEIL 2x2Gb (4Gb) DDR3 1066 Mhz
   DVD: GH22NS SATA LG DVDX22 DL
   power: 350W FAN 12 CM Power man
  
  
 
  I think you might be underpowered. I input the above specification in the
  newegg PSU calculator and got ~390W.
 
  http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html
 
  The boot sequence is one point in time where you might notice this.
 
  Lior
 
  I second the above.
  You need at -least- a 450w PSU for this machine.
  (In your case, the CPU + GPU alone can eat more than 250w...)
 
  - Gilboa
 
 Interesting.
 I took back the computer again. They called me 3 days later and
 told me they tried to reboot it 100 times and it worked fine.
 
 They also told me to look at the power calculator of MSI
 http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=power
 and that one shows that I need less than 300 W.
 
 Very strange and I am not sure what to do with this whole situation.
 
 
 Gabor

When in doubt - buy big.
Don't forget that most computer shop labs are heavily A/C'ed, and last
week was one of the hottest days of the year.
PSU's doesn't really function that well at ~35C...

- Gilboa


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Re: can the BIOS be changed from Linux? - failed overclocking with new computer

2009-10-28 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 07:28 +0200, lior wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:44:17 +0200, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote:
  I just bought a new computer, install Ubuntu 9.10 beta (not the RC as
  it was not out yet)
  and after I try to reboot, the computer does not even reach the BIOS
  boot sequence.
  (blank screen).
  After letting it rest for some time I can turn it on, then it gets to
  the BIOS boot and displays the
  following error:
 
  Warning!!! The previous overclocking had failed, and system will
  restore its default setting.
  Press any key to continue...
 
  Pressing a key makes it boot but the happens again after one or two
  bootings.
 
  Oh, an *I* have not touched the BIOS and *I* did not configure
  overclocking.
 
  I already took the computer back once and they told me about some rare
  thing that happens
  only once every 2 years that the BIOS is flips.
  I think they just either did not configure it well or for some reason
  it gets broken after the first boot.
  Or something is broken or incompatible in the hardware.
 
 
  The question if Linux might change the BIOS or cause this problem?
  If not, what do you think could be the reason and the fix?
 
  Here are the details of the computer (from the order form) just in
  case someone can see
  some parts that do not work well with Linux or with each other.
 
  CPU: Q8200 2.33 Gh 4MB Core 2 Quad
  mother board: G41M-E43 DDR3 HDMI MSI
  screen card: Nvidia GeForce 9400Gt 512MB P.P.View
  HD: 500 Gb SATA2 16 Mb Hitachi
  Memory: CL7 DBT GEIL 2x2Gb (4Gb) DDR3 1066 Mhz
  DVD: GH22NS SATA LG DVDX22 DL
  power: 350W FAN 12 CM Power man
 
 

 I think you might be underpowered. I input the above specification in the
 newegg PSU calculator and got ~390W.

 http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

 The boot sequence is one point in time where you might notice this.

 Lior

 I second the above.
 You need at -least- a 450w PSU for this machine.
 (In your case, the CPU + GPU alone can eat more than 250w...)

 - Gilboa

Interesting.
I took back the computer again. They called me 3 days later and
told me they tried to reboot it 100 times and it worked fine.

They also told me to look at the power calculator of MSI
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=power
and that one shows that I need less than 300 W.

Very strange and I am not sure what to do with this whole situation.


Gabor

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Re: can the BIOS be changed from Linux? - failed overclocking with new computer

2009-10-27 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 07:28 +0200, lior wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:44:17 +0200, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote:
  I just bought a new computer, install Ubuntu 9.10 beta (not the RC as
  it was not out yet)
  and after I try to reboot, the computer does not even reach the BIOS
  boot sequence.
  (blank screen).
  After letting it rest for some time I can turn it on, then it gets to
  the BIOS boot and displays the
  following error:
  
  Warning!!! The previous overclocking had failed, and system will
  restore its default setting.
  Press any key to continue...
  
  Pressing a key makes it boot but the happens again after one or two
  bootings.
  
  Oh, an *I* have not touched the BIOS and *I* did not configure
  overclocking.
  
  I already took the computer back once and they told me about some rare
  thing that happens
  only once every 2 years that the BIOS is flips.
  I think they just either did not configure it well or for some reason
  it gets broken after the first boot.
  Or something is broken or incompatible in the hardware.
  
  
  The question if Linux might change the BIOS or cause this problem?
  If not, what do you think could be the reason and the fix?
  
  Here are the details of the computer (from the order form) just in
  case someone can see
  some parts that do not work well with Linux or with each other.
  
  CPU: Q8200 2.33 Gh 4MB Core 2 Quad
  mother board: G41M-E43 DDR3 HDMI MSI
  screen card: Nvidia GeForce 9400Gt 512MB P.P.View
  HD: 500 Gb SATA2 16 Mb Hitachi
  Memory: CL7 DBT GEIL 2x2Gb (4Gb) DDR3 1066 Mhz
  DVD: GH22NS SATA LG DVDX22 DL
  power: 350W FAN 12 CM Power man
  
 
 
 I think you might be underpowered. I input the above specification in the
 newegg PSU calculator and got ~390W.
 
 http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html
 
 The boot sequence is one point in time where you might notice this.
 
 Lior

I second the above.
You need at -least- a 450w PSU for this machine.
(In your case, the CPU + GPU alone can eat more than 250w...)

- Gilboa


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can the BIOS be changed from Linux? - failed overclocking with new computer

2009-10-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
I just bought a new computer, install Ubuntu 9.10 beta (not the RC as
it was not out yet)
and after I try to reboot, the computer does not even reach the BIOS
boot sequence.
(blank screen).
After letting it rest for some time I can turn it on, then it gets to
the BIOS boot and displays the
following error:

Warning!!! The previous overclocking had failed, and system will
restore its default setting.
Press any key to continue...

Pressing a key makes it boot but the happens again after one or two bootings.

Oh, an *I* have not touched the BIOS and *I* did not configure overclocking.

I already took the computer back once and they told me about some rare
thing that happens
only once every 2 years that the BIOS is flips.
I think they just either did not configure it well or for some reason
it gets broken after the first boot.
Or something is broken or incompatible in the hardware.


The question if Linux might change the BIOS or cause this problem?
If not, what do you think could be the reason and the fix?

Here are the details of the computer (from the order form) just in
case someone can see
some parts that do not work well with Linux or with each other.

CPU: Q8200 2.33 Gh 4MB Core 2 Quad
mother board: G41M-E43 DDR3 HDMI MSI
screen card: Nvidia GeForce 9400Gt 512MB P.P.View
HD: 500 Gb SATA2 16 Mb Hitachi
Memory: CL7 DBT GEIL 2x2Gb (4Gb) DDR3 1066 Mhz
DVD: GH22NS SATA LG DVDX22 DL
power: 350W FAN 12 CM Power man



Gabor
ps, search for the warning message turned up a number of reports, (with windows)
that indicate either broken mother board or incorrect BIOS configuration but I'd
like to get your opinion too.

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