Re: encoding hebrew text
On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 01:09:29 Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Just a note, one can use iconv or Perl's http://perldoc.perl.org/Encode.html module or something to convert an entire file from one encoding to the other: iconv -f windows-1255 -t utf-8 1.txt Seems to work here. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Best Introductory Programming Language - http://shlom.in/intro-lang Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 01:09:29 Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Just a note, one can use iconv or Perl's http://perldoc.perl.org/Encode.html module or something to convert an entire file from one encoding to the other: iconv -f windows-1255 -t utf-8 1.txt Seems to work here. Regards, Shlomi Fish I am using iconv on linux. I am not sure if iconv exists for windows. -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 11:50:49 Ori Idan wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 01:09:29 Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Just a note, one can use iconv or Perl's http://perldoc.perl.org/Encode.html module or something to convert an entire file from one encoding to the other: iconv -f windows-1255 -t utf-8 1.txt Seems to work here. Regards, Shlomi Fish I am using iconv on linux. I am not sure if iconv exists for windows. It does: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libiconv.htm Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ The Case for File Swapping - http://shlom.in/file-swap Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
iconv is what i was going to recommend in the first place, once the encodings were figured out. 2009/12/16 Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 11:50:49 Ori Idan wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 01:09:29 Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Just a note, one can use iconv or Perl's http://perldoc.perl.org/Encode.html module or something to convert an entire file from one encoding to the other: iconv -f windows-1255 -t utf-8 1.txt Seems to work here. Regards, Shlomi Fish I am using iconv on linux. I am not sure if iconv exists for windows. It does: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libiconv.htm Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ The Case for File Swapping - http://shlom.in/file-swap Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
encoding hebrew text
Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
also i just remembered, notepad itself has an option of saving the files natively to utf8 format, however it is utf8 with BOM, which is bad for you. 2009/12/16 Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to read the file with notepad and notepad++. Uri. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com wrote: could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il זיכרון נייד חדשני Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. דגם: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT מספר מכירה: 11648541 מחיר המוצר כולל דמי משלוח: 139 ₪ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
what's the difference with encoding with BOM and without BOM? with notepad++ I have both options, I don't know which one is better. I know that with BOM notepad recognizes it as utf-8, which is good when opening the files with notepad. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com wrote: also i just remembered, notepad itself has an option of saving the files natively to utf8 format, however it is utf8 with BOM, which is bad for you. 2009/12/16 Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
OK, your file is encoded in windows-1255. What is the problem? Open it in Notepad and save it as UTF-8. You will get a BOM at the beginning. If this is bad for you, edit the file with any editor except Notepad and remove the first 3 bytes. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 502Fax: +972 2 5870333Mobile: +972 52 2554160 From: Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net To: Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com Cc: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: 16/12/2009 00:47 Subject: Re: encoding hebrew text Sent by: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to read the file with notepad and notepad++. Uri. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com wrote: could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il [attachment 1.txt deleted by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM] ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
If I open the file with notepad, the hebrew text is not readable. If I save it as utf-8, the hebrew text is not readable even in notepad++. I need to convert the file to utf-8 in another way, I can't see any option to encode it with windows-1255 in notepad. attached it the file in utf-8. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Matitiahu Allouche mat...@il.ibm.com wrote: OK, your file is encoded in windows-1255. What is the problem? Open it in Notepad and save it as UTF-8. You will get a BOM at the beginning. If this is bad for you, edit the file with any editor except Notepad and remove the first 3 bytes. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 502 Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 2554160 From: Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net To: Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com Cc: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: 16/12/2009 00:47 Subject: Re: encoding hebrew text Sent by: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to read the file with notepad and notepad++. Uri. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com wrote: could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il [attachment 1.txt deleted by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM] ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il æéëøåï ðééã çãùðé Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. ãâí: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT îñôø îëéøä: 11648541 îçéø äîåöø ëåìì ãîé îùìåç: 139 ¤ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Matitiahu Allouche mat...@il.ibm.com wrote: OK, your file is encoded in windows-1255. What is the problem? Open it in Notepad and save it as UTF-8. You will get a BOM at the beginning. If this is bad for you, edit the file with any editor except Notepad and remove the first 3 bytes. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 502 Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 2554160 From: Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net To: Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com Cc: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: 16/12/2009 00:47 Subject: Re: encoding hebrew text Sent by: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to read the file with notepad and notepad++. Uri. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren motne...@gmail.com wrote: could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. tom. 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il [attachment 1.txt deleted by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM] ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il זיכרון נייד חדשני Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. דגם: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT מספר מכירה: 11648541 מחיר המוצר כולל דמי משלוח: 139 ₪ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
