Re: hosting in USA
Hi, sorry for joining in late... but I'll add my own experiences in US hosting until now, to add to what everyone else has written here. *See also my end point about speeds from Israel* 1) unixshell.com; this is where I started off, it was a VPS running of Xen. Was great for over a year until my VM neighbours started doing some weird shit and the thing became unusable. Being dependent on my neighbous to watch their iowait and otherwise play nice didn't suit me. Their sister company tektonic.net running virtuozzo claimed that it handled iowait better, but I decided to get my own dedicated server. 2) server4you.com; was very happy there also for over a year, until I had problems I couldn't fix myself (i.e. on their side). Traffic simply stopped coming in on my primary IP. We exchanged many emails, their response time was appaling, and every time they said it was fixed it wasn't. Eventually after TWO WEEKS they told me I was blocked on their providers routers because someone tried a DDoS against my IP, although it's hard to know since they conclusively told me the problem was a number of other things. Kitzur, I had migrated all my data and was up and running on another server at another company long before they fixed the problem. 3) serverbeach.com; this is where youtube was hosted before google bought them. Their tagline is by geeks for geeks which I liked, because I hate dealing with stupid people. Been here for over two years now I think. It's a bit more expensive then I was used to, but I'm happy to pay more for quick response time and people who know what they're doing. Problems when they arose were sorted out very quickly (including a hardware failure). What I also love is that whenever they have a problem, even it only affected some users, they post a report and post-mortem analysis -- what went wrong, why it went wrong, and what steps they've taken to ensure it won't happen again, including on issues related to customer satisfaction. That responsibility sold me aswell, because a lot of other providers like to pretend the problem is on your side, or doesn't exist, etc. Lastly, they're partnered with peer1.com, one of the US' big first tier backbones. Also wherever you go make sure you have good tools to e.g. reboot your system, AND access a recovery mode, etc. I got a cheap VPS in Israel for VPN use, and was amazed that I had to call an after hours number and physically ask someone to reboot the machine for me. With all the servers above, a primary concern was of course speed to Israel. You have to be pretty careful here. It can vary by ISP of course too. I can say with serverbeach that off-peak on NV, I tend to max out my 7mbps connection (I get around 750K/sec or so...). At Peak times, NV treats their users like Gaza, but fortunately I have a smuggling tunnel (aka VPN) which still works great ;) Obviously latency cannot compare to a local server, but everything else is cheaper. To my server at ServerBeach I get around 164ms. Note the big companies have multiple data centres, make sure to check out latency and bandwidth to all of them... generally you want something on the East Coast. If anyone wants to check out serverbeach, let me know... maybe I can get points for it or something :) Good luck! On 07/05/2010 00:01, Steve G. wrote: There is no 'one size fits all' internet. Rackspace is a good company, no doubt, but if you do not need 100% uptime guarantee, you may save 30-50% or more by using another provider, who would give you 99.995% uptime. There are many choices, from shared to virtual private servers, to dedicated, to managed dedicated, each at a different price level and with many excellent hosts. I suggest you check out web hosting forums in the US (google), I am sure this is addressed regularly. Good luck! Z. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com mailto:stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote: At 16:30:03 on Thursday Thursday 06 May 2010, Serge linux...@vects.com mailto:linux...@vects.com wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. My domain has been hosted by Host Excellence http://www.hostexcellence.com/ for years. I can recommend it highly, but of course someone may have needs that it can't answer, I wouldn't know; for example, I didn't enquire into the possibility of hosting a co.il http://co.il domain, but as far as I know, they don't care. It's inexpensive. It's worth looking into it. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net http://www.words2u.net
Re: hosting in USA
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:48:23AM +0300, Gadi Cohen wrote: Hi, sorry for joining in late... but I'll add my own experiences in US hosting until now, to add to what everyone else has written here. *See also my end point about speeds from Israel* 1) unixshell.com; this is where I started off, it was a VPS running of Xen. Was great for over a year until my VM neighbours started doing some weird shit and the thing became unusable. Being dependent on my neighbous to watch their iowait and otherwise play nice didn't suit me. Their sister company tektonic.net running virtuozzo claimed that it handled iowait better, but I decided to get my own dedicated server. I've also started there. At around that time that company mostly gave up on being the cheapest Xen provider and switched to Virtuozzo (with the name Tektonic). Other providers proved to be more stable. 2) server4you.com; was very happy there also for over a year, until I had problems I couldn't fix myself (i.e. on their side). Traffic simply stopped coming in on my primary IP. We exchanged many emails, their response time was appaling, and every time they said it was fixed it wasn't. Eventually after TWO WEEKS they told me I was blocked on their providers routers because someone tried a DDoS against my IP, although it's hard to know since they conclusively told me the problem was a number of other things. Kitzur, I had migrated all my data and was up and running on another server at another company long before they fixed the problem. 3) serverbeach.com; this is where youtube was hosted before google bought them. Their tagline is by geeks for geeks which I liked, because I hate dealing with stupid people. Been here for over two years now I think. It's a bit more expensive then I was used to, but I'm happy to pay more for quick response time and people who know what they're doing. Problems when they arose were sorted out very quickly (including a hardware failure). What I also love is that whenever they have a problem, even it only affected some users, they post a report and post-mortem analysis -- what went wrong, why it went wrong, and what steps they've taken to ensure it won't happen again, including on issues related to customer satisfaction. That responsibility sold me aswell, because a lot of other providers like to pretend the problem is on your side, or doesn't exist, etc. Lastly, they're partnered with peer1.com, one of the US' big first tier backbones. Also wherever you go make sure you have good tools to e.g. reboot your system, AND access a recovery mode, etc. I got a cheap VPS in Israel for VPN use, and was amazed that I had to call an after hours number and physically ask someone to reboot the machine for me. I've used a number of Xen-based VPS hostings, and all of them provided similar abilities (remote console - with most, but at least the ability to order a reboot). Naturally this is something you should check before you buy. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.comcould be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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And after asking all these questions, the answer is still rackspace. Note that had he asked about cheap colo, I'd have answered differently. M On May 6, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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FYI: bluehost.com doesn't host CO.IL 2010/5/6 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Constantine Shulyupin Embedded Linux Expert TI DaVinci Expert Tel-Aviv Israel http://www.LinuxDriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Hmm? I hosted there 4 web sites, 3 of them were with co.il up to 4 months ago. Hetz 2010/5/6 Constantine Shulyupin co...@linuxdriver.co.il FYI: bluehost.com doesn't host CO.IL 2010/5/6 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Constantine Shulyupin Embedded Linux Expert TI DaVinci Expert Tel-Aviv Israel http://www.LinuxDriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 17:08 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: Sorry, I didn't mentioned that. We are looking for VPS/dedicated server managed by us, depends from the price what to take. * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? It's for the hosting 2-3 web stores, no information about the how many people, the hosting must be done in USA. Thanks, Serge. After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Thanks, I'll check again On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm? I hosted there 4 web sites, 3 of them were with co.il up to 4 months ago. Hetz 2010/5/6 Constantine Shulyupin co...@linuxdriver.co.il FYI: bluehost.com doesn't host CO.IL 2010/5/6 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Constantine Shulyupin Embedded Linux Expert TI DaVinci Expert Tel-Aviv Israel http://www.LinuxDriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org -- Constantine Shulyupin Embedded Linux Expert TI DaVinci Expert Tel-Aviv Israel http://www.LinuxDriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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I would suggest to check theplanet.com Hetz 2010/5/6 Serge linux...@vects.com On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 17:08 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Rackspace? it's like killing a Mosquito with a Canon, and their price is really big.. It really depends on the person's needs: Is he looking for Dedicated server? VPS? or a simple shared account? He/she should also take into consideration other details such: Sorry, I didn't mentioned that. We are looking for VPS/dedicated server managed by us, depends from the price what to take. * Where his target audience is located? if his customers are located in Israel, perhaps it's best to find a good deal here in IL * Is shared hosting good enough for him? then something like bluehost.com could be sufficient for him (although their uptime record is horrible) * How many people are accessing his web site? It's for the hosting 2-3 web stores, no information about the how many people, the hosting must be done in USA. Thanks, Serge. After answering these questions (to himself) it would be easier for him to find a good company for his needs. Hetz 2010/5/6 Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com rackspace On May 6, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Serge wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Serge wrote: Sorry, I didn't mentioned that. We are looking for VPS/dedicated server managed by us, depends from the price what to take. vpslink.com ; linode.com ; prgmr.com Prices are great. I have experience with good service from linode and vpslink; no experience with prgmr, but I heard great things about them -- and their motto is we don't assume you are stupid. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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At 16:30:03 on Thursday Thursday 06 May 2010, Serge linux...@vects.com wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. My domain has been hosted by Host Excellence http://www.hostexcellence.com/ for years. I can recommend it highly, but of course someone may have needs that it can't answer, I wouldn't know; for example, I didn't enquire into the possibility of hosting a co.il domain, but as far as I know, they don't care. It's inexpensive. It's worth looking into it. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: hosting in USA
There is no 'one size fits all' internet. Rackspace is a good company, no doubt, but if you do not need 100% uptime guarantee, you may save 30-50% or more by using another provider, who would give you 99.995% uptime. There are many choices, from shared to virtual private servers, to dedicated, to managed dedicated, each at a different price level and with many excellent hosts. I suggest you check out web hosting forums in the US (google), I am sure this is addressed regularly. Good luck! Z. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote: At 16:30:03 on Thursday Thursday 06 May 2010, Serge linux...@vects.com wrote: Hello there, Could you advise any good hosting provider in USA? Somebody wants to move from godaddy. Any input very appreciated. Thanks, Serge. My domain has been hosted by Host Excellence http://www.hostexcellence.com/ for years. I can recommend it highly, but of course someone may have needs that it can't answer, I wouldn't know; for example, I didn't enquire into the possibility of hosting a co.il domain, but as far as I know, they don't care. It's inexpensive. It's worth looking into it. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
