Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
A friend recommended Handbrake which converted no problem with MP4-H.264 (doubled the size of the files compared to .flv) but the Nokia didn't play the Video. I heard that H.264 is problematic. Proprietary codec. I'm now trying to convert with MP4-FFMPEG and see if it works. Would .AVI work better? Thanks everyone for your suggestions! Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:43:55 +0300 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: A friend recommended Handbrake which converted no problem with MP4-H.264 (doubled the size of the files compared to .flv) but the Nokia didn't play the Video. I heard that H.264 is problematic. Proprietary codec. It's patented, not sure about proprietary, on the other hand, it's the main format that is supported by todays phones and such. I think that you need to pay royalties if you use it in your software but not to use it as a user, although there is x264 which is compatible and free, and ffmpeg which includes support for x264, so I don't know where the legal side lies. Note though that there are several profiles, and not all of them are supported in each player/device so that may be the problem. Try using a lower profile, that should solve your problem probably. Also check what container your device supports since h264 defines only the video encoding, it can still go inside avi (partial support, not all features), mpeg2/4, flash (yes, most flash encapsulated movies are h264) etc. I'm now trying to convert with MP4-FFMPEG and see if it works. Would .AVI work better? Thanks everyone for your suggestions! Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
2009/7/25 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il It's patented, not sure about proprietary, on the other hand, it's the main format that is supported by todays phones and such. I think that you need to pay royalties if you use it in your software but not to use it as a user, although there is x264 which is compatible and free, and ffmpeg which includes support for x264, so I don't know where the legal side lies. Note though that there are several profiles, and not all of them are supported in each player/device so that may be the problem. Try using a lower profile, that should solve your problem probably. Also check what container your device supports since h264 defines only the video encoding, it can still go inside avi (partial support, not all features), mpeg2/4, flash (yes, most flash encapsulated movies are h264) etc. This is more of a theoretical discussion for me right now since I got some time this morning and watched the rest on the desktop, but here goes anyway - 1. I tried to convert to .mp4 container with H.264, which I expect the Nokia E71 to support. The player said something about not being able to play the video but at the same time it played the audio alone. 2. The player can play the .flv file very well, it just can't skip forward or backward while doing so. 3. The resulting .mp4 file was more than twice the size of the original .flv file which seems odd to me - I though the h.264 format was supposed to be strong on compression. Also I didn't do any scientific comparison but I suspect that the .flv file looks actually better than the .mp4 file (on the desktop). 4. I couldn't find a way to tell HandBrake anything about the result (e.g. set the resolution to 320x240) except that it has some Presets on the right-hand side-bar and the one I was using was apparently the default Basic-Normal. I still have to get around to try the result of the second conversion (which uses ffmpeg) and then maybe the Normal-Classic preset. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
2009/6/28 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com: Another option I was thinking about, triggered by the tcpdump suggestion, is to use proxyfire to have connections to castup.net and ynet.co.il through my own proxy, which in turn can record the URL's for me (and maybe even cache the files). I'll try that when I get around to it (had a busy weekend, pending a not less busy week). OK, so I finally got around to implement this and would like to document what I did here: Installed tinyproxy. It was the simplest proxy among those I found for Ubuntu. It started working immediately, at INFO mode which logs requested URL, listening on port on localhost. Installed FoxyProxy and configured it to use tinyproxy. Pretty quickly it became obvious that the ynet.co.il links are not interesting and I should concentrate on the castup.net links, configured foxyproxy to: a. all - blacklist (i.e. don't use foxyproxy by default) b. *.castup.net and *.flv wildcard patterns white listed. This quickly showed the links I need in the tinyproxy logs (/var/log/tinyproxy.log), e.g.: http://sv2dl.castup.net/server12/434/520/5201878-80.flv?ct=AUrg=NAaid=434cu=B5793E19-6919-48D2-B7D8-EE1B3B531D31att=1 a wget on these url's brought down the entire FLV file, playable both on Linux and Nokia E71. To get the file to the E71 memory card over USB I got it messed up a bit - it needs to be in Mass Storage Mode then ubuntu will auto-mount it (I had a corrupt filesystem on the phone's memory card so had to back it up and reformat through the Nokia interface, I don't know whether this happened because I put the phone in a different connection mode or not). The obstacle I face now is that the Nokia Flash player will not allow me to skip the movie - forward or backwards. I can pause at least but still it's annoying that I can't rewind to re-view a bit I missed or have to keep the player open all the time not to lose the current position in the movie. mencoder bombed on codec not found or somesuch when I tried to convert to mp4. I configured mediabuntu but didn't have time to find how to actually force install of mencoder from that repo. A friend recommended Handbrake which converted no problem with MP4-H.264 (doubled the size of the files compared to .flv) but the Nokia didn't play the Video. I'm now trying to convert with MP4-FFMPEG and see if it works. Would .AVI work better? Thanks everyone for your suggestions! Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
2009/6/28 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Look for: vsrc=http://switch434-01.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=434ar=runway_s01_extra008ak=nulltest=test.flv; 5) The above link (vsrc) is the FLV movie you wanted Thanks everyone. The tcpdump commands extracted some Host: lines but none with the interesting URL's. The above procedure looks doable, I might do it. Another option I was thinking about, triggered by the tcpdump suggestion, is to use proxyfire to have connections to castup.net and ynet.co.il through my own proxy, which in turn can record the URL's for me (and maybe even cache the files). I'll try that when I get around to it (had a busy weekend, pending a not less busy week). Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
2009/6/27 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi Amos, I haven't done anything special and I am able to see all the movies :) I can view the video just fine on FF3/Ubuntu 8.10/9.04. But I want to be able to download it to a file on disk and view it later. DownloadHelper can do this for many sites, but it didn't provide the pop-up menu for reshet.ynet.co.il. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
On Saturday 27 June 2009, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/6/27 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi Amos, I haven't done anything special and I am able to see all the movies :) I can view the video just fine on FF3/Ubuntu 8.10/9.04. But I want to be able to download it to a file on disk and view it later. DownloadHelper can do this for many sites, but it didn't provide the pop-up menu for reshet.ynet.co.il. Don't know about download helper, but you can use tcpdump, while the movie starts, and watch for 'GET' messages for flv files. something like this: , | $ tcpdump -i eth0 -s 512 -l -A port http | egrep Host:|GET.*flv.*HTTP ` Then use wget on the URL you find. Not a one-click-your-mother-proof solution, but works most of the time. --y signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
The FLV won't help him much since it's an SWF based player which plays WMV streams, look for strings like mms, castup etc... Hetz 2009/6/27 Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net: On Saturday 27 June 2009, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/6/27 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi Amos, I haven't done anything special and I am able to see all the movies :) I can view the video just fine on FF3/Ubuntu 8.10/9.04. But I want to be able to download it to a file on disk and view it later. DownloadHelper can do this for many sites, but it didn't provide the pop-up menu for reshet.ynet.co.il. Don't know about download helper, but you can use tcpdump, while the movie starts, and watch for 'GET' messages for flv files. something like this: , | $ tcpdump -i eth0 -s 512 -l -A port http | egrep Host:|GET.*flv.*HTTP ` Then use wget on the URL you find. Not a one-click-your-mother-proof solution, but works most of the time. --y ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
Amos, You are right, I didn't read your email properly :) Sorry BTW: The tcpdump option is a nice one, though a bit expensive (work wise) to do. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/27 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com: Hi Amos, I haven't done anything special and I am able to see all the movies :) I can view the video just fine on FF3/Ubuntu 8.10/9.04. But I want to be able to download it to a file on disk and view it later. DownloadHelper can do this for many sites, but it didn't provide the pop-up menu for reshet.ynet.co.il. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
There is an add on for firefox called Unplug. This one lets you download the file. I haven't tried it with reshet. You may try it and report to us. On 6/27/09, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how to download the streams available on http://reshet.ynet.co.il? I'd like to watch them on my own time. They play well as a stream on my Ubuntu 9.04 but there are long programs I can't always watch in one go and I'd like to save the re-downloading (have capped Internet plan, very slow from long distance). DownloadHelper for Firefox doesn't seem to recognize this site. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:42 PM, sara fink wrote: There is an add on for firefox called Unplug. This one lets you download the file. I haven't tried it with reshet. You may try it and report to us. Did not work for me. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
Amos,
How hard are you willing to work?
Its not hard to get the FLV from the HTML, steps:
1) Open the source code seek - white_player.swf
invokeLater(function() {
var so = new SWFObject(/flash/white_player.swf,
Flash90_embed, 412, 337, 8, #00);
so.addParam(wmode, opaque);
so.addParam(allowFullScreen, true);
so.addParam(menu, false);
so.addVariable(pageUrl, http://reshet.ynet.co.il/1.aspx;);
so.addVariable(xmlURL,
/Handlers/CompnentVideos.ashx?id=90%26webPageId=1%26headerId=);
so.addVariable(fixed, false);
so.write(Flash90);
});
2) Copy the xmlURL section, like so
http://reshet.ynet.co.il/Handlers/CompnentVideos.ashx?id=90%26webPageId=1%26headerId=
3) Change %26 to
http://reshet.ynet.co.il/Handlers/CompnentVideos.ashx?id=90webPageId=1headerId=
4) In the source of:
http://reshet.ynet.co.il/Handlers/CompnentVideos.ashx?id=90webPageId=1headerId=
Look for:
vsrc=http://switch434-01.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=434ar=runway_s01_extra008ak=nulltest=test.flv;
5) The above link (vsrc) is the FLV movie you wanted
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:47 PM, geoffrey
mendelsongeoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:42 PM, sara fink wrote:
There is an add on for firefox called Unplug. This one lets you
download the file. I haven't tried it with reshet. You may try it and
report to us.
Did not work for me.
Geoff.
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reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
Hi, Does anyone know how to download the streams available on http://reshet.ynet.co.il? I'd like to watch them on my own time. They play well as a stream on my Ubuntu 9.04 but there are long programs I can't always watch in one go and I'd like to save the re-downloading (have capped Internet plan, very slow from long distance). DownloadHelper for Firefox doesn't seem to recognize this site. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: reshet.ynet.co.il not on Download Helper, anything else?
Hi Amos, I haven't done anything special and I am able to see all the movies :) Not sure what I have installed if anything, but I just click Play on Ubuntu 9.04 with FF3.5 (I am pretty sure its not related to FF3.5) and it works. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how to download the streams available on http://reshet.ynet.co.il? I'd like to watch them on my own time. They play well as a stream on my Ubuntu 9.04 but there are long programs I can't always watch in one go and I'd like to save the re-downloading (have capped Internet plan, very slow from long distance). DownloadHelper for Firefox doesn't seem to recognize this site. Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
