Re: (Not so) Stupid question
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, guy keren wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Omer Musaev wrote:
System time jumps one hour backwords once a day (a night).
There is no rdate, ntpdate, or similar on cron.
There is no apmd running.
There is no ntpd or xntpd running.
There is no timezone, since system time is stored in RTC.
i would suggest the following to try and track the problem:
1. enable process accounting.
2. write a cron job that will write the time into a file, once a minute.
Been there done that...
Took me a long time to realize that cron can't be used to diagnose clock
troubles. IMHO cron is a victim of the problem, not a means of diagnosis.
Better to use a process that waits on a read from a machine whose clock
you trust.
- yba
then wait a day. check the exact time in which the machine's time drifted
by an hour, and then look for suspicious activity in the proces accounting
data.
btw, i assume that the machine is not rebooted every day. right?
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Re: (Not so) Stupid question
Afer you find out the hour it happened in Check NASA logs for UFO acitivity around your house I heard missing time usually happens then Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, guy keren wrote: | | On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Omer Musaev wrote: | | System time jumps one hour backwords once a day (a night). | There is no rdate, ntpdate, or similar on cron. | There is no apmd running. | There is no ntpd or xntpd running. | There is no timezone, sincesystem time is stored in RTC. | | i would suggest the following to try and track the problem: | | 1. enable process accounting. | 2. write a cron job that will write the time into a file, once a minute. | | then wait a day. check the exact time in which the machine's time drifted | by an hour, and then look for suspicious activity in the proces accounting | data. | | btw, i assume that the machine is not rebooted every day. right? | | guy | | "For world domination - press 1, | or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy | | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Not so) Stupid question
Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, guy keren wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Omer Musaev wrote:
System time jumps one hour backwords once a day (a night).
There is no rdate, ntpdate, or similar on cron.
There is no apmd running.
There is no ntpd or xntpd running.
There is no timezone, since system time is stored in RTC.
i would suggest the following to try and track the problem:
1. enable process accounting.
2. write a cron job that will write the time into a file, once a minute.
Been there done that...
Took me a long time to realize that cron can't be used to diagnose clock
troubles. IMHO cron is a victim of the problem, not a means of diagnosis.
Better to use a process that waits on a read from a machine whose clock
you trust.
- yba
Well, writing a small script which is:
while date /tmp/time_track.log ; do
sleep 60
done
was my first attempt.
From there I know that time is changes at 4:01 AM to 3:01 AM.
However, there was no sign of any process that changed its time!!
then wait a day. check the exact time in which the machine's time drifted
by an hour, and then look for suspicious activity in the proces accounting
data.
btw, i assume that the machine is not rebooted every day. right?
No, it is linux machine (tm).
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Re: Not at all Stupid question
The way I see it, there can be no hardware related problems to cause this problem (and this problem only). The time is kept totally independant of the RTC, and it also seems that the RTC has a drift, but does not have this problem. Being as it is that I remeber some complaints about clock inacuracies in the past, I am given to suspect that we are dealing with a kernel bug here. Anyone cares to comment? Shachar while date /tmp/time_track.log ; do sleep 60 done was my first attempt. From there I know that time is changes at 4:01 AM to 3:01 AM. However, there was no sign of any process that changed its time!! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GeFroce Asus 6800
Hi I have the Asus 6800 that work great on linux exept from capturing video. Any one know if I can capture video through the GeForce 6800 ? Where I can read more on this subject ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALSA Problem
Anyone knows why the ALSA drivers _don't_ work with Mandrake 7.02 (Hebrew)? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GeForce and X ?
Hey, What X Server do I need to use for a GeForce 32M card ? =---= Nimrod Simba Carmi, School Sucks http://www.schoolsucks.com http://www.schoolsucks.co.il Phone: +972-5423-9910 Fax: +972-6651-5473 "... So let me in, from the cold Turn my land into gold Coz there's a chill wind blowing in my soul And I think I'm growing old ..." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GeFroce Asus 6800
Repeat after me: * closed source companies (E.g. Nvidia) - are evil since they don't release specs... :) Seriously, there aren't any specs for this cards, so it's a bit of a problem even to write a driver Sorry, Hetz Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi I have the Asus 6800 that work great on linux exept from capturing video. Any one know if I can capture video through the GeForce 6800 ? Where I can read more on this subject ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA Problem
"Anyone" might share some info with us? info such as: * Which ALSA version? * Which kernel? * What sound card? * ALSA as an RPM or source packages? * Did you run alsa mixer? * Did you read carefully the docs and modprobe all the modules needed? * Did you compile OSS emulation in?? With this sort of question - NO ONE will be able to help you - unless you provide the above details.. Ofcourse - you have the alsa-user mailing lists to help you. Check their WEB site: http://www.alsa-project.org Hetz Doron Barzilay wrote: Anyone knows why the ALSA drivers _don't_ work with Mandrake 7.02 (Hebrew)? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GeForce and X ?
Hi I used the one that come with RH 6.2 I think 3.3.6 or something like this "Nimrod S. Carmi" wrote: Hey, What X Server do I need to use for a GeForce 32M card ? =---= Nimrod Simba Carmi, School Sucks http://www.schoolsucks.com http://www.schoolsucks.co.il Phone: +972-5423-9910 Fax: +972-6651-5473 "... So let me in, from the cold Turn my land into gold Coz there's a chill wind blowing in my soul And I think I'm growing old ..." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Not so) Stupid question
As someone else has implied, 1 hour is the difference between the winter and the summer clocks. Therefore, it might be that the system tries to get back to winter clock (no day light saving time). The cause might be that you have not updated the Israel zoneinfo file. Here is the relevant part on my system: [15:25:35 /tmp]$ zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel |grep 2000 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel Thu Apr 13 23:59:59 2000 UTC = Fri Apr 14 01:59:59 2000 IST isdst=0 gmtoff=7200 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel Fri Apr 14 00:00:00 2000 UTC = Fri Apr 14 03:00:00 2000 IDT isdst=1 gmtoff=10800 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel Thu Oct 5 21:59:59 2000 UTC = Fri Oct 6 00:59:59 2000 IDT isdst=1 gmtoff=10800 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel Thu Oct 5 22:00:00 2000 UTC = Fri Oct 6 00:00:00 2000 IST isdst=0 gmtoff=7200 [15:25:44 /tmp]$ -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Not so) Stupid question
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote: 2. write a cron job that will write the time into a file, once a minute. Been there done that... Took me a long time to realize that cron can't be used to diagnose clock troubles. IMHO cron is a victim of the problem, not a means of diagnosis. Better to use a process that waits on a read froma machine whose clock you trust. a-ha! but if cron will mulfunction at the transition time - you will see where in the log file this happened (e.g. cause there will be missing entries after some location, or that the time will move backwards). for this specific purpose, a cron job should work fine. guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GeFroce Asus 6800
I would recheck the nvidia site they released new drivers for geforce TNT and TNT 2 which were buggy before there is problem with GeForce MX and ULTRA if I remmber right Those drivers are really new only 2-3 days old I think and as far as I know open source at least the kernel module is for sure Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: | Repeat after me: | | * closed source companies (E.g. Nvidia) - are evil since they don't release | specs... :) | | Seriously, there aren't any specs for this cards, so it's a bit of a problem | even to write a driver | | Sorry, | Hetz | | | Ben-Nes Michael wrote: | | Hi | | I have the Asus 6800 that work great on linux exept from capturing | video. | | Any one know if I can capture video through the GeForce 6800 ? | | Where I can read more on this subject ? | | -- | -- | Canaan Surfing Ltd. | Internet Service Providers | Ben-Nes Michael - Manager | Tel: 972-6-6925757 | Fax: 972-6-6925858 | http://www.canaan.co.il | -- | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
