Re: Maybe it's time to shut this thread down (Was: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 02:44:21PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:03:24PM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > Come to KS! You're more than welcome to discuss this with us there. > Thanks for the invitation, but those events don't fit into my schedule. I hope in my absence you'll find away to empower yourself without disenfranchising others or reinforcing harmful cis-gender stereotypes. I wish you a constructive summit! khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Maybe it's time to shut this thread down (Was: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 02:44:21PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:03:24PM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: Come to KS! You're more than welcome to discuss this with us there. Thanks for the invitation, but those events don't fit into my schedule. I hope in my absence you'll find away to empower yourself without disenfranchising others or reinforcing harmful cis-gender stereotypes. I wish you a constructive summit! khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > I'm not trying to shut down this discussion. But please, let's continue > this discussion at KS, away from the court of public opinion. I would > love for this email to serve as a final summary of my opinion. We can > use this email to start a conversation at KS, and we can argue our > hearts out there about the various points. Well more than half your argument is about how "the court of public opinion" regards interactions on the mailing list. Why is this discussion exempt? > > Just please, let me do my job as a kernel maintainer, and please stop > replying to this conversation. I can only write so many long emails a > day without it cutting into my time for writing code and debugging USB > issues. > You should have thought about that before you posted your assault on free expression to every single social media outlet you have access to, With any luck, next time, you will. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due respect, > you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here and > elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let the > discussion be brought to a conclusion, wherever that may take us, compared > to your initial view? > This wasn't about having a discussion, it was about "taking a stand," and since the reaction to the stand wasn't unanimously supportive, it's easier to take it inside the wire, out of public view, before backing down. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due respect, you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here and elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let the discussion be brought to a conclusion, wherever that may take us, compared to your initial view? This wasn't about having a discussion, it was about taking a stand, and since the reaction to the stand wasn't unanimously supportive, it's easier to take it inside the wire, out of public view, before backing down. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: mistakes in code vs. maintainer flow mistakes (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: I'm not trying to shut down this discussion. But please, let's continue this discussion at KS, away from the court of public opinion. I would love for this email to serve as a final summary of my opinion. We can use this email to start a conversation at KS, and we can argue our hearts out there about the various points. Well more than half your argument is about how the court of public opinion regards interactions on the mailing list. Why is this discussion exempt? Just please, let me do my job as a kernel maintainer, and please stop replying to this conversation. I can only write so many long emails a day without it cutting into my time for writing code and debugging USB issues. You should have thought about that before you posted your assault on free expression to every single social media outlet you have access to, With any luck, next time, you will. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:40:43AM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > The result: 75% of their developers are women. If you give a flying > fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source > project, your developers need to be civil, and not verbally abuse each > other. > I object to your sexist implicit assertion that women are incapable of dealing with differing approaches to interpersonal communication. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:40:43AM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: The result: 75% of their developers are women. If you give a flying fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source project, your developers need to be civil, and not verbally abuse each other. I object to your sexist implicit assertion that women are incapable of dealing with differing approaches to interpersonal communication. khm -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait()
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:27:01PM +, Al Viro wrote: > > Al, that -><- close to volunteering for maintaining that FPOS kernel-side... > This would be fantastic. Kurt H Maier -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an .async_probe() type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait()
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:27:01PM +, Al Viro wrote: Al, that -- close to volunteering for maintaining that FPOS kernel-side... This would be fantastic. Kurt H Maier -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
