RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Haney

Oh God.  You're right.  But who's going to patent the patent on the patent?
*ad infinitum*


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?

Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.

After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?

:)

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RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Haney

Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I wonder
if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?


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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Alan Olsen wrote:
>
> > I expect the next thing that will happen is that they will get
> > patents on key portions of their protocols and then start
> > enforcing them.
>
> If Microsoft would start pissing off IBM and other major
> companies which have big business interests in Linux by
> invoking their patents, I can just imagine IBM coming down
> on Microsoft with their own patents ...
>
> "Hey you!  Stop flipping those bits!  Hold it right there!
>  ... Don't you flip any more bits, read this patent first..."
>
> (and I'm sure they must have patents on _setting_ bits as
> well ;))

Apparently they DO have a patent on the tab key - you thought Amazon's
"one click shopping" patent was bad?!


James.


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RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Haney

Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I wonder
if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?


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Subject: RE: Linux stifles innovation...


On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Alan Olsen wrote:

  I expect the next thing that will happen is that they will get
  patents on key portions of their protocols and then start
  enforcing them.

 If Microsoft would start pissing off IBM and other major
 companies which have big business interests in Linux by
 invoking their patents, I can just imagine IBM coming down
 on Microsoft with their own patents ...

 "Hey you!  Stop flipping those bits!  Hold it right there!
  ... Don't you flip any more bits, read this patent first..."

 (and I'm sure they must have patents on _setting_ bits as
 well ;))

Apparently they DO have a patent on the tab key - you thought Amazon's
"one click shopping" patent was bad?!


James.


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RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Haney

Oh God.  You're right.  But who's going to patent the patent on the patent?
*ad infinitum*


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
 wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?

Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.

After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?

:)

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RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Haney

>> repeated exposition to Linux...
Hey isn't that _exposure_ to Linux?  Or one of Dubya's words?  Like
strategery?

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Watch Microsoft's Jim Allchin go Linux-bashing!!!
Nice little article on how we're all going to die of herpes from our
repeated exposition to Linux...
http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?ta
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RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Haney

 repeated exposition to Linux...
Hey isn't that _exposure_ to Linux?  Or one of Dubya's words?  Like
strategery?

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Watch Microsoft's Jim Allchin go Linux-bashing!!!
Nice little article on how we're all going to die of herpes from our
repeated exposition to Linux...
http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?ta
g=ltnc
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RE: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Are you mocking me? :)
You know, I don't even know why we are even qualifying the idiot's comments
by talking about it.

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mark Haney wrote:

> Richard Johnson wrote:
> >Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
> >the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
> >the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
> >studying for the M-CAP test.
>
> Not true.  Cary is quite large and is the fastest growing city in NC as of
> 1999 figures.  It is right next to Raleigh and houses a lot of tech
offices.
> Lucent, Cable & Wireless, HP.  You would be amazed at the tech nology
> centers there.  Matter of fact, Research Triangle Park is just down the
> road.
> Not all of NC, or the South for that matter, is a hotbed of ignorance.
>
>

Oops, of course, how careless of me. I stand corrected. It's a great
technology center. Just like Duluth, Missoula, and Redmond. ^;)

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.2.17 on an i686 machine (801.18 BogoMips).

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RE: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Richard Johnson wrote:
>Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
>the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
>the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
>studying for the M-CAP test.

Not true.  Cary is quite large and is the fastest growing city in NC as of
1999 figures.  It is right next to Raleigh and houses a lot of tech offices.
Lucent, Cable & Wireless, HP.  You would be amazed at the tech nology
centers there.  Matter of fact, Research Triangle Park is just down the
road.
Not all of NC, or the South for that matter, is a hotbed of ignorance.


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Subject: Re: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux


On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Dan Hollis wrote:
[Snipped...]

>
> The machine's physical location is in Cary, NC. Anyone live near there
> willing to make a personal visit to the location to identify the
> individual responsible?
>
> -Dan

"You get more respect with a kind word and a gun than a kind word".
- Al Capone.

Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
studying for the M-CAP test.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.2.17 on an i686 machine (801.18 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.


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RE: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Man, I wish I was close enough.  I am only about 4 hours from there, but I
woulnd't waste my time.  If he doesn't like it he can stick with Windows and
all of it's wonderful on time development and bug free environment.  ;)


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Subject: Re: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux


On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alex Buell wrote:
> Feel free to send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get his account
> yanked for abuse of mailing lists.

http://www.ilan.net/contact.htm for a nice list of addresses to send
complaints to.

The machine's physical location is in Cary, NC. Anyone live near there
willing to make a personal visit to the location to identify the
individual responsible?

-Dan

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RE: TRACED] Re: Tux is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Man, I wish I was close enough.  I am only about 4 hours from there, but I
woulnd't waste my time.  If he doesn't like it he can stick with Windows and
all of it's wonderful on time development and bug free environment.  ;)


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Subject: Re: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux


On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alex Buell wrote:
 Feel free to send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get his account
 yanked for abuse of mailing lists.

http://www.ilan.net/contact.htm for a nice list of addresses to send
complaints to.

The machine's physical location is in Cary, NC. Anyone live near there
willing to make a personal visit to the location to identify the
individual responsible?

-Dan

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RE: TRACED] Re: Tux is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Richard Johnson wrote:
Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
studying for the M-CAP test.

Not true.  Cary is quite large and is the fastest growing city in NC as of
1999 figures.  It is right next to Raleigh and houses a lot of tech offices.
Lucent, Cable  Wireless, HP.  You would be amazed at the tech nology
centers there.  Matter of fact, Research Triangle Park is just down the
road.
Not all of NC, or the South for that matter, is a hotbed of ignorance.


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Johnson
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:32 PM
To: Dan Hollis
Cc: Alex Buell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux


On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Dan Hollis wrote:
[Snipped...]


 The machine's physical location is in Cary, NC. Anyone live near there
 willing to make a personal visit to the location to identify the
 individual responsible?

 -Dan

"You get more respect with a kind word and a gun than a kind word".
- Al Capone.

Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
studying for the M-CAP test.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.2.17 on an i686 machine (801.18 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.


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RE: TRACED] Re: Tux is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Haney

Are you mocking me? :)
You know, I don't even know why we are even qualifying the idiot's comments
by talking about it.

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Subject: RE: TRACED] Re: "Tux" is the wrong logo for Linux


On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mark Haney wrote:

 Richard Johnson wrote:
 Cary, NC. can't be very large. There are, probably, three persons in
 the whole county than have computers. Two haven't been booted since
 the day the were received by the kids because they've been busy
 studying for the M-CAP test.

 Not true.  Cary is quite large and is the fastest growing city in NC as of
 1999 figures.  It is right next to Raleigh and houses a lot of tech
offices.
 Lucent, Cable  Wireless, HP.  You would be amazed at the tech nology
 centers there.  Matter of fact, Research Triangle Park is just down the
 road.
 Not all of NC, or the South for that matter, is a hotbed of ignorance.



Oops, of course, how careless of me. I stand corrected. It's a great
technology center. Just like Duluth, Missoula, and Redmond. ^;)

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.2.17 on an i686 machine (801.18 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.


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