Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-29 Thread Thunder from the hill



Chris Meadors wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Daniel Chemko wrote:
> 
> > Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging
> > microsoft.com...
> 
> It's down, ha ha, Microsoft is down!  I'm joking of course.  But you don't
> know how many times my techs have told me that.  It's either that, or
> something is seeming a little strange on our network, and to trouble
> shoot, they ping microsoft.com and don't get a responce.  Then they call
> me at home, to tell me that our T1s are down.
> 
> I wonder how much bandwidth was used up by people pinging MS to trouble
> shoot when they still allowed ICMP packets through.
That's why the nmap manual tells us to use -P0 to scan
www.microsoft.com.
Operating system guess returned some unix...

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Re: Patches

2001-01-29 Thread Thunder from the hill

Marc Mutz wrote:
> 
> Thunder from the hill wrote:
> >
> > Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> > > Kmail works fine.
> > Hmmm. Would be great, but could you get working beyond some proxy?
> 
> 
> Um, mail proxy? Is there such a beast? I always thought that that was
> called 'mail server'. Where do you find configuration tabs for that in
> netscape?
Whenever it works, it seems to use the socks proxy. We unfortunately
have a NT 4 Workstation as proxy for administration, so I have to proxy
my mail data.

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Re: Patches

2001-01-29 Thread Thunder from the hill

Marc Mutz wrote:
 
 Thunder from the hill wrote:
 
  Chris Wedgwood wrote:
   Kmail works fine.
  Hmmm. Would be great, but could you get working beyond some proxy?
 snip
 
 Um, mail proxy? Is there such a beast? I always thought that that was
 called 'mail server'. Where do you find configuration tabs for that in
 netscape?
Whenever it works, it seems to use the socks proxy. We unfortunately
have a NT 4 Workstation as proxy for administration, so I have to proxy
my mail data.

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Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-29 Thread Thunder from the hill



Chris Meadors wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Daniel Chemko wrote:
 
  Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging
  microsoft.com...
 
 It's down, ha ha, Microsoft is down!  I'm joking of course.  But you don't
 know how many times my techs have told me that.  It's either that, or
 something is seeming a little strange on our network, and to trouble
 shoot, they ping microsoft.com and don't get a responce.  Then they call
 me at home, to tell me that our T1s are down.
 
 I wonder how much bandwidth was used up by people pinging MS to trouble
 shoot when they still allowed ICMP packets through.
That's why the nmap manual tells us to use -P0 to scan
www.microsoft.com.
Operating system guess returned some unix...

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My appologies

2001-01-28 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi, all,

My mailer (NS4.76/Linux 2.4.0-test10) has corrupted some messages and
send them at least twice. I apologize for that, please don't be worried.

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My appologies

2001-01-28 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi, all,

My mailer (NS4.76/Linux 2.4.0-test10) has corrupted some messages and
send them at least twice. I apologize for that, please don't be worried.

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Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

> A file-system without a lost+found directory is like love without sex.
You mean, possible but leaving you unsatisfied? Well, I think a file
system without a lost+found is a lot worse.

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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

Mark Smith wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:02:05AM -0700, Thunder from the hill wrote:
> > > > > my vaio F-series used to sleep correctly under RH6.1.  it now hangs
> > > > > forever making the sleep mode much less useful.
> > > i just push the sleep button.  it used to work under RH6.1.  under RH7.0
> > > it never wakes up.
> > Well, this seems not to be right...
> > Already any idea?
> 
> i haven't had a chance to look at it.  i'm not quite sure where to start
> looking either.  i suppose i could track down if there's any resource
> still running?  trying out different configurations.  it's kinda annoying.
> the battery drain on linux is pretty high so it would be useful to sleep
> to save juice.  not quite annoying enough yet to start debugging though.
> too many other things above it on the sliding scale.
Hmmm... Can you access objects on the penguin via network? Try using
telnet, or better ssh, to be sure if it is a crash or a graphic error.

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Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

> Hotmails failing machines, for example, send RST packets back when
> they see ECN.  Ignoring valid TCP RST frames is unacceptable and
> Linux will not do that as long as I am maintaining it.
Whadda word!
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Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

> Don't they understand that Linux is actually a system that is growing to
> be very popular?
That's why they ignore and don't support it.

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Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

Stefani Seibold wrote:
> 
> Hi Linus,
> Hi Alan,
> Hi everybody,
> 
> this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the
> printk function with a dummy printk macro.
> 
> This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes
> and normaly no textconsole is attachted nor any user will see the boot
> messages. Also, it is nice for rescue disks.
> 
> On my system this saves about 10% of disk- and ramspace.
> 899664
> For example: My standart desktop kernel is 994834 bytes, without printk
> messages it is only 899664 bytes long. The basic kernel ram usage is also 10%
> less than the same kernel with printk messages.
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefani
> 
> BTW: this is my first try to submit a kernel patch
What sense does it make to ripp the kernel off its "tongue"? This means
to make it completely silent, a oops() could _not_ be noticed! This
means that you don't know when your system has nearly crashed.
You'd better leave printk where it is.

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Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

"David S. Miller" wrote:
> 
> Chris Wedgwood writes:
>  > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:34:47AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
>  >
>  > That's it, in 4 weeks time I am putting a kernel onto
>  > vger.kernel.org that speaks ECN.  This is my official and only
>  > warning.
>  >
>  > Why wait 4 weeks at all? You seem to be very clear how you feel about
>  > the issue; do it now then.
> 
> Because I am at least sympathetic enough with users of the lists that
> I am going to offer them sufficient time to go and get a usable ISP if
> need be.
Hmmm... Does anyone know whether german ISP T-Online supports ECN? I am
currently customer of T-Online.

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Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

> Every single connection to ECN-broken sites would work as normal - it
> would just take an extra few seconds. Instead of "Hotmail doesn't
> work!" it becomes "Hrm... Hotmail is fscking slow, but Yahoo is fine. I'll
> use Yahoo". A few million of those, and suddenly Hotmail isn't so hot...
I think Yahoo's cables will become hot then instead. And hot cables mean
slower connections.
So what?

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Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

"David S. Miller" wrote:
 
 Chris Wedgwood writes:
   On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:34:47AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
  
   That's it, in 4 weeks time I am putting a kernel onto
   vger.kernel.org that speaks ECN.  This is my official and only
   warning.
  
   Why wait 4 weeks at all? You seem to be very clear how you feel about
   the issue; do it now then.
 
 Because I am at least sympathetic enough with users of the lists that
 I am going to offer them sufficient time to go and get a usable ISP if
 need be.
Hmmm... Does anyone know whether german ISP T-Online supports ECN? I am
currently customer of T-Online.

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Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

 Every single connection to ECN-broken sites would work as normal - it
 would just take an extra few seconds. Instead of "Hotmail doesn't
 work!" it becomes "Hrm... Hotmail is fscking slow, but Yahoo is fine. I'll
 use Yahoo". A few million of those, and suddenly Hotmail isn't so hot...
I think Yahoo's cables will become hot then instead. And hot cables mean
slower connections.
So what?

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Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

Stefani Seibold wrote:
 
 Hi Linus,
 Hi Alan,
 Hi everybody,
 
 this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the
 printk function with a dummy printk macro.
 
 This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes
 and normaly no textconsole is attachted nor any user will see the boot
 messages. Also, it is nice for rescue disks.
 
 On my system this saves about 10% of disk- and ramspace.
 899664
 For example: My standart desktop kernel is 994834 bytes, without printk
 messages it is only 899664 bytes long. The basic kernel ram usage is also 10%
 less than the same kernel with printk messages.
 
 Greetings,
 Stefani
 
 BTW: this is my first try to submit a kernel patch
What sense does it make to ripp the kernel off its "tongue"? This means
to make it completely silent, a oops() could _not_ be noticed! This
means that you don't know when your system has nearly crashed.
You'd better leave printk where it is.

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Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

 Hotmails failing machines, for example, send RST packets back when
 they see ECN.  Ignoring valid TCP RST frames is unacceptable and
 Linux will not do that as long as I am maintaining it.
Whadda word!
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Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

 Don't they understand that Linux is actually a system that is growing to
 be very popular?
That's why they ignore and don't support it.

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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

Mark Smith wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:02:05AM -0700, Thunder from the hill wrote:
 my vaio F-series used to sleep correctly under RH6.1.  it now hangs
 forever making the sleep mode much less useful.
   i just push the sleep button.  it used to work under RH6.1.  under RH7.0
   it never wakes up.
  Well, this seems not to be right...
  Already any idea?
 
 i haven't had a chance to look at it.  i'm not quite sure where to start
 looking either.  i suppose i could track down if there's any resource
 still running?  trying out different configurations.  it's kinda annoying.
 the battery drain on linux is pretty high so it would be useful to sleep
 to save juice.  not quite annoying enough yet to start debugging though.
 too many other things above it on the sliding scale.
Hmmm... Can you access objects on the penguin via network? Try using
telnet, or better ssh, to be sure if it is a crash or a graphic error.

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Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill

 A file-system without a lost+found directory is like love without sex.
You mean, possible but leaving you unsatisfied? Well, I think a file
system without a lost+found is a lot worse.

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In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-26 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400
machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including
2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB
gets stuck while booting. Last messages are:
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $time 07:06:37 Jan 14 2001
usb-uhci.c: high bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Assigned IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1

That's all.
I debugged a while and noticed that the error occurs beyond
drivers/usb/usb-uhci.c in the function alloc_uhci() after start_hc (s);
when calling request_irq(), the line reads:
if (request_irq (irq, uhci_interrupt, SA_SHIRQ, MODNAME, s)) {
The called function crashes somewhere on top, as I noticed.
Is there a patch avariable, or should I do further investigation?

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In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-26 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400
machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including
2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB
gets stuck while booting. Last messages are:
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $time 07:06:37 Jan 14 2001
usb-uhci.c: high bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Assigned IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1

That's all.
I debugged a while and noticed that the error occurs beyond
drivers/usb/usb-uhci.c in the function alloc_uhci() after start_hc (s);
when calling request_irq(), the line reads:
if (request_irq (irq, uhci_interrupt, SA_SHIRQ, MODNAME, s)) {
The called function crashes somewhere on top, as I noticed.
Is there a patch avariable, or should I do further investigation?

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In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400
machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including
2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB
gets stuck while booting. Last messages are:
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $time 07:06:37 Jan 14 2001
usb-uhci.c: high bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Assigned IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1

That's all.
I debugged a while and noticed that the error occurs beyond
drivers/usb/usb-uhci.c in the function alloc_uhci() after start_hc (s);
when calling request_irq(), the line reads:
if (request_irq (irq, uhci_interrupt, SA_SHIRQ, MODNAME, s)) {
The called function crashes somewhere on top, as I noticed.
Is there a patch avariable, or should I do further investigation?

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Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> Michael Rothwell wrote:
> > Unfortunately, unix allows everything but "/" in filenames. This was
> > probably a mistake, as it makes it nearly impossible to augment the
> > namespace, but it is the reality.
> 
> For some reason totally beyond my comprehension // inside a file name is
> taken to be the same as /, but if it wasn't it could be the stream
> separator.  *sigh*
It seems that you mix up forward and backward slashes. a // means //,
but a \\ means a single \. So if you want a double backslash, you have
to write . Thus, removing double backslashes from NETBIOS names via
perl is: $name =~ s///;
So what...?

Cheers!
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Re: Patches

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> Kmail works fine.
Hmmm. Would be great, but could you get working beyond some proxy? I
couldn't, and so I have to use Netscape, since pine doesn't really
support proxies, too. Same with MS Outlook, which is - o horror - also
avariable for Linux (in one package with MS Internet Exploder)!
If there is a way, please tell me!

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Re: make mrproper

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Ville Herva wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:00:26AM -0500, you [James Lewis Nance] claimed:
> >
> > ( mrproper == Mr. Proper )
> >
> > I saw a post from Linus once about this.  It is Finnish for "Mr. Clean".
> 
> Just to be sure: 'proper' does not mean anything in Finnish (nor Swedish
> for that matter AFAIK) it just the European(?) product name for 'Mr
> Clean'. Possibly it's from German ('proper' = 'clean').
I wouldn't call all clean things proper, and I would really not call all
proper things clean. That's one thing I learned in europe.

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Re: vfat <-> vfat copying of ~700MB file, so slow!

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> 
> On/Dnia Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:23:03PM -0600, Brad Felmey wrote/napisa³(a)
> > > I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
> >
> > hdparm -c1 /dev/hda, or are you running in 16-bit mode on purpose?
> no purpose. Setting this can only speed up all operations a bit but it doesn't
> change nothing in vfat <-> vfat copying. It still slows down while copying.
I noticed the kernel to increase cache and let the buffers break down during long file 
copies, it seems like this is the wrong way if only copying one large file. This also 
happens on SMB connections. I don't know if this info is useful.

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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Mark Smith wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:14:19AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
> > > This is probably a user-land and/or undocumented thing, but I am not
> > > certain where to get the correct info.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to get the screen brightness control to work on a
> > > Sony Vaio N505VE?  There seems to be some sort of proprietary hook to get
> > > it to work that requires their install of Windows.  (This is a problem as
> > > it was removed immediatly after purchacing the laptop.)
> >
> > All the newer Vaios seem to have this problem. They rely on support from
> > Windows to control the brightness, instead of doing it through the BIOS,
> > like older machines. I don't know a solution. More annoyingly, they
> > won't hibernate, as they rely on Windows Me or 2000 doing it for them.
> > The APM hibernate in the BIOS seems to have gone. I have a Z505GAT,
> > which I think is the Asian version of the model sold in the US as the
> > Z505LE. I guess this will become the norm now none of the current
> > versions of Windows require any hibernation support from the BIOS. The
> > hibernate to swap patch for Linux really needs to get into the
> > mainstream, and be more thoroughly exercised.
> 
> if anyone finds a way of dimming the brightness make sure you post!
> besides killing the battery, it also makes it hard to use in dark
> places such as night flights.  i feel as if i'm lighting up the
> cabin in these cases.
> 
> my vaio F-series used to sleep correctly under RH6.1.  it now hangs
> forever making the sleep mode much less useful.
Maybe it has some problems with the way you send it to sleep. It could
have changed through the times...

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Re: make mrproper

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

> My guess is that it is a joke.  'Meister Proper' is the German
>   Mister Clean (the big, bald guy on the same-name cleaning
>   agent bottle).  I'm not sure of the spelling, though.  It's been
>   a while since I've seen the commercials.
You've spelled it correct.
> I dunno if it's Finnish, though.  Never been there.  Maybe it was
>   put in by a German developer.  Maybe not.  It was there when
>   I started.
Sure it was, since Mr. Proper already existed in the sixties...
People who don't know what it means usually use make spotless. 
I have also already seen Mr. Proper in the US, and some other countries
seem to have it, too.

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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Steve Underwood wrote:
> 
> Alan Olsen wrote:
> >
> > This is probably a user-land and/or undocumented thing, but I am not
> > certain where to get the correct info.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get the screen brightness control to work on a
> > Sony Vaio N505VE?  There seems to be some sort of proprietary hook to get
> > it to work that requires their install of Windows.  (This is a problem as
> > it was removed immediatly after purchacing the laptop.)
> 
> All the newer Vaios seem to have this problem. They rely on support from
> Windows to control the brightness, instead of doing it through the BIOS,
> like older machines. I don't know a solution. More annoyingly, they
> won't hibernate, as they rely on Windows Me or 2000 doing it for them.
> The APM hibernate in the BIOS seems to have gone. I have a Z505GAT,
> which I think is the Asian version of the model sold in the US as the
> Z505LE. I guess this will become the norm now none of the current
> versions of Windows require any hibernation support from the BIOS. The
> hibernate to swap patch for Linux really needs to get into the
> mainstream, and be more thoroughly exercised.
Couldn't it be possible to write a "hole" or such into the kernel's vaio
driver - or even a /dev file - which can be used by some program to set
screen brightness?

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Re: Driver migration question

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

The way drivers have to be done is mixed of two aspects:
1. The way you do drivers and
2. the way the driver works.
You should also try not to rewrite existing functions for not to get a
mess of e.g. memory allocation functions that do the same but have
different names.
Georg Nikodym wrote:
> 
> So, rather than repeated ask questions of the form:
> 
> How do I change X (a 2.2 thingy in my driver) to the blessed
> form on 2.4.x?
> 
> I'm wondering if there's a driver in the kernel tree that somebody can
> point to and say, "This is how drivers should be done."  In
> particular, I'm interested in networking drivers but any non-trivial
> driver will do.
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Teledat USB 2 a/b

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

Is there support for external USB ISDN boxes like the Teledat USB 2 a/b?
I don't really know this box, but there's someone asking for it...

Cheers!
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Teledat USB 2 a/b

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

Is there support for external USB ISDN boxes like the Teledat USB 2 a/b?
I don't really know this box, but there's someone asking for it...

Cheers!
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Re: Driver migration question

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

The way drivers have to be done is mixed of two aspects:
1. The way you do drivers and
2. the way the driver works.
You should also try not to rewrite existing functions for not to get a
mess of e.g. memory allocation functions that do the same but have
different names.
Georg Nikodym wrote:
 
 So, rather than repeated ask questions of the form:
 
 How do I change X (a 2.2 thingy in my driver) to the blessed
 form on 2.4.x?
 
 I'm wondering if there's a driver in the kernel tree that somebody can
 point to and say, "This is how drivers should be done."  In
 particular, I'm interested in networking drivers but any non-trivial
 driver will do.
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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Steve Underwood wrote:
 
 Alan Olsen wrote:
 
  This is probably a user-land and/or undocumented thing, but I am not
  certain where to get the correct info.
 
  Does anyone know how to get the screen brightness control to work on a
  Sony Vaio N505VE?  There seems to be some sort of proprietary hook to get
  it to work that requires their install of Windows.  (This is a problem as
  it was removed immediatly after purchacing the laptop.)
 
 All the newer Vaios seem to have this problem. They rely on support from
 Windows to control the brightness, instead of doing it through the BIOS,
 like older machines. I don't know a solution. More annoyingly, they
 won't hibernate, as they rely on Windows Me or 2000 doing it for them.
 The APM hibernate in the BIOS seems to have gone. I have a Z505GAT,
 which I think is the Asian version of the model sold in the US as the
 Z505LE. I guess this will become the norm now none of the current
 versions of Windows require any hibernation support from the BIOS. The
 hibernate to swap patch for Linux really needs to get into the
 mainstream, and be more thoroughly exercised.
Couldn't it be possible to write a "hole" or such into the kernel's vaio
driver - or even a /dev file - which can be used by some program to set
screen brightness?

Cheers!
Thunder
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Re: make mrproper

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

 My guess is that it is a joke.  'Meister Proper' is the German
   Mister Clean (the big, bald guy on the same-name cleaning
   agent bottle).  I'm not sure of the spelling, though.  It's been
   a while since I've seen the commercials.
You've spelled it correct.
 I dunno if it's Finnish, though.  Never been there.  Maybe it was
   put in by a German developer.  Maybe not.  It was there when
   I started.
Sure it was, since Mr. Proper already existed in the sixties...
People who don't know what it means usually use make spotless. 
I have also already seen Mr. Proper in the US, and some other countries
seem to have it, too.

Cheers!
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Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Mark Smith wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:14:19AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
   This is probably a user-land and/or undocumented thing, but I am not
   certain where to get the correct info.
  
   Does anyone know how to get the screen brightness control to work on a
   Sony Vaio N505VE?  There seems to be some sort of proprietary hook to get
   it to work that requires their install of Windows.  (This is a problem as
   it was removed immediatly after purchacing the laptop.)
 
  All the newer Vaios seem to have this problem. They rely on support from
  Windows to control the brightness, instead of doing it through the BIOS,
  like older machines. I don't know a solution. More annoyingly, they
  won't hibernate, as they rely on Windows Me or 2000 doing it for them.
  The APM hibernate in the BIOS seems to have gone. I have a Z505GAT,
  which I think is the Asian version of the model sold in the US as the
  Z505LE. I guess this will become the norm now none of the current
  versions of Windows require any hibernation support from the BIOS. The
  hibernate to swap patch for Linux really needs to get into the
  mainstream, and be more thoroughly exercised.
 
 if anyone finds a way of dimming the brightness make sure you post!
 besides killing the battery, it also makes it hard to use in dark
 places such as night flights.  i feel as if i'm lighting up the
 cabin in these cases.
 
 my vaio F-series used to sleep correctly under RH6.1.  it now hangs
 forever making the sleep mode much less useful.
Maybe it has some problems with the way you send it to sleep. It could
have changed through the times...

Cheers!
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Re: vfat - vfat copying of ~700MB file, so slow!

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
 
 On/Dnia Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:23:03PM -0600, Brad Felmey wrote/napisa(a)
   I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 
  hdparm -c1 /dev/hda, or are you running in 16-bit mode on purpose?
 no purpose. Setting this can only speed up all operations a bit but it doesn't
 change nothing in vfat - vfat copying. It still slows down while copying.
I noticed the kernel to increase cache and let the buffers break down during long file 
copies, it seems like this is the wrong way if only copying one large file. This also 
happens on SMB connections. I don't know if this info is useful.

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Re: make mrproper

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Ville Herva wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:00:26AM -0500, you [James Lewis Nance] claimed:
 
  ( mrproper == Mr. Proper )
 
  I saw a post from Linus once about this.  It is Finnish for "Mr. Clean".
 
 Just to be sure: 'proper' does not mean anything in Finnish (nor Swedish
 for that matter AFAIK) it just the European(?) product name for 'Mr
 Clean'. Possibly it's from German ('proper' = 'clean').
I wouldn't call all clean things proper, and I would really not call all
proper things clean. That's one thing I learned in europe.

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Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Daniel Phillips wrote:
 
 Michael Rothwell wrote:
  Unfortunately, unix allows everything but "/" in filenames. This was
  probably a mistake, as it makes it nearly impossible to augment the
  namespace, but it is the reality.
 
 For some reason totally beyond my comprehension // inside a file name is
 taken to be the same as /, but if it wasn't it could be the stream
 separator.  *sigh*
It seems that you mix up forward and backward slashes. a // means //,
but a \\ means a single \. So if you want a double backslash, you have
to write . Thus, removing double backslashes from NETBIOS names via
perl is: $name =~ s///;
So what...?

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In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-25 Thread Thunder from the hill

Hi,

I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400
machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including
2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB
gets stuck while booting. Last messages are:
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $time 07:06:37 Jan 14 2001
usb-uhci.c: high bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Assigned IRQ 10 for device 00:07.2
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe400, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1

That's all.
I debugged a while and noticed that the error occurs beyond
drivers/usb/usb-uhci.c in the function alloc_uhci() after start_hc (s);
when calling request_irq(), the line reads:
if (request_irq (irq, uhci_interrupt, SA_SHIRQ, MODNAME, s)) {
The called function crashes somewhere on top, as I noticed.
Is there a patch avariable, or should I do further investigation?

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