Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Hi,
On Monday, 4 of April 2005 11:34, Yu, Luming wrote:
> Please testing patch filed at
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3851#c64
> My testing results on toshiba satellite M20 is:
>
> /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0#time cat state
> present: yes
> capacity state: ok
> charging state: charging
> present rate:1500 mA
> remaining capacity: 4064 mAh
> present voltage: 15000 mV
>
> real0m0.023s
> user0m0.000s
> sys 0m0.020s
Here's my result on Asus L5D ("plain" 2.6.12-rc1-mm3 with the patch):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0> time cat state
present: yes
capacity state: ok
charging state: charged
present rate:unknown
remaining capacity: unknown
present voltage: unknown
real0m15.113s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.034s
Greets,
Rafael
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Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Please testing patch filed at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3851#c64 My testing results on toshiba satellite M20 is: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0#time cat state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charging present rate:1500 mA remaining capacity: 4064 mAh present voltage: 15000 mV real0m0.023s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.020s Thanks Luming On Friday 01 April 2005 17:51, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Friday, 1 of April 2005 11:31, Yu, Luming wrote: > > On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the > > > > > > ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, > > > > > > the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE > > > > > > 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much > > > > > > % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected > > > > > > (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no > > > > > > battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave > > > > > > always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the > > > > > > battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's > > > > > > nothing suspicious in dmesg. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greets, > > > > > > Rafael > > > > > > > > > > Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? > > > > > > > > Could you please point me to it? > > > > > > I assume you mean the "Enable EC Burst Mode" patch at: > > > > > > http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=inde > > >x.htm l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) > > > > Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? > > They are available at: > > http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dmesg.out > http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dsdt > > The dmesg output is from 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 with the patch reverted. > > Greets, > Rafael > > > -- > - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? > - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. > -- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/Info/Sentarus/hamr30 > ___ > Acpi-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/acpi-devel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Please testing patch filed at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3851#c64 My testing results on toshiba satellite M20 is: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0#time cat state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charging present rate:1500 mA remaining capacity: 4064 mAh present voltage: 15000 mV real0m0.023s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.020s Thanks Luming On Friday 01 April 2005 17:51, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 1 of April 2005 11:31, Yu, Luming wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? I assume you mean the Enable EC Burst Mode patch at: http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=inde x.htm l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? They are available at: http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dmesg.out http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dsdt The dmesg output is from 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 with the patch reverted. Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll Alice's Adventures in Wonderland --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/Info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Acpi-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/acpi-devel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Hi, On Monday, 4 of April 2005 11:34, Yu, Luming wrote: Please testing patch filed at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3851#c64 My testing results on toshiba satellite M20 is: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0#time cat state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charging present rate:1500 mA remaining capacity: 4064 mAh present voltage: 15000 mV real0m0.023s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.020s Here's my result on Asus L5D (plain 2.6.12-rc1-mm3 with the patch): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0 time cat state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charged present rate:unknown remaining capacity: unknown present voltage: unknown real0m15.113s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.034s Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Friday, 1 of April 2005 11:31, Yu, Luming wrote: > > On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI > > > > > battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the > > > > > battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is > > > > > no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is > > > > > loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is > > > > > connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the > > > > > box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the > > > > > battery is 1% loaded). > > > > > > > > > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery > > > > > module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing > > > > > suspicious in dmesg. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > > > > > > > Greets, > > > > > Rafael > > > > > > > > Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? > > > > > > Could you please point me to it? > > > > I assume you mean the "Enable EC Burst Mode" patch at: > > > > http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.htm > >l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) > > Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? They are available at: http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dmesg.out http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dsdt The dmesg output is from 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 with the patch reverted. Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI > > > > battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the > > > > battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is > > > > no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is > > > > loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is > > > > connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the > > > > box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the > > > > battery is 1% loaded). > > > > > > > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery > > > > module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing > > > > suspicious in dmesg. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > > > > > Greets, > > > > Rafael > > > > > > Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? > > > > Could you please point me to it? > > I assume you mean the "Enable EC Burst Mode" patch at: > > http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.htm >l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? TIA - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? I assume you mean the Enable EC Burst Mode patch at: http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.htm l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? TIA - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Friday, 1 of April 2005 11:31, Yu, Luming wrote: On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? I assume you mean the Enable EC Burst Mode patch at: http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.htm l|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Could you let me see Dmesg and DSDT? They are available at: http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dmesg.out http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/050401/dsdt The dmesg output is from 2.6.12-rc1-mm4 with the patch reverted. Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Hi, On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI > > > battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery > > > monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able > > > to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only > > > check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves > > > as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, > > > kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). > > > > > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, > > > but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. > > > > > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > > > Greets, > > > Rafael > > > > Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? > > Could you please point me to it? I assume you mean the "Enable EC Burst Mode" patch at: http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.html|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
Hi, On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 12:05, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? I assume you mean the Enable EC Burst Mode patch at: http://linux-acpi.bkbits.net:8080/to-akpm/cset%401.2181.17.12?nav=index.html|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, reverting this patch helps. :-) Greets, Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: > On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI > > battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery > > monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able > > to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only > > check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves > > as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, > > kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). > > > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, > > but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. > > > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > > > Greets, > > Rafael > > Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Wednesday, 30 of March 2005 07:53, Yu, Luming wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? Could you please point me to it? Rafael -- - Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? - That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. -- Lewis Carroll Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > Hi, > > There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI > battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery > monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able > to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only > check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves > as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, > kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). > > Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, > but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. > > Please let me know if you need any additional information. > > Greets, > Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? -- Thanks, Luming - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [ACPI] 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3]: ACPI battery monitor does not work
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, There is a problem on my box (Asus L5D, x86-64 kernel) with the ACPI battery driver in the 2.6.12-rc1-mm[1-3] kernels. Namely, the battery monitor that I use (the kpowersave applet from SUSE 9.2) is no longer able to report the battery status (ie how much % it is loaded). It can only check if the AC power is connected (if it is connected, kpowersave behaves as though there was no battery in the box, and if it is not connected, kpowersave always shows that the battery is 1% loaded). Also, there are big latencies on loading and accessing the battery module, but the module loads successfully and there's nothing suspicious in dmesg. Please let me know if you need any additional information. Greets, Rafael Could you just revert ec-mode patch, then retest? -- Thanks, Luming - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
