Re: [OT] Sane Architectures
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:07:56PM -0500, Adam Schrotenboer wrote: > > alpha? mips? > > Yes, I just didn't feel like listing all arch's. Plus, (ducks) the MIPS > is no longer supported by Windoze, and I rarely see any discussion on lk > about this arch, and I forgot about Alpha for a minute. Mostly because there is an entirely seperate mailing list for MIPS issues. You'll find a quite active list that is so prestegious there are guys that work the MIPS Technologies (The MIPS people :-) ) on it. You might even want to check in on it. The MIPS arch is actually quite nice. It has generally good FP performance, a large pool of general use registers, and many other really convenient attributes. You can join the list by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe linux-mips [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the body. Matthew Fredrickson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Sane Architectures
Mark Hahn wrote: >> Are there any architectures that are simple (sane) to implement sftw on? > > > sftw? software? yes: portable C/C++ is a fine platform. Not really the platform, but the architecture, from a C/C++ compiler and kernel/asm/lowlevel lang development standpoint > >> The i386 is plagued by it's 16-bit (arguably its 8 or even 4 bit) past. > > > I wonder what you mean by that. it's ia32's accumulator-based > architecture, and stack-based FPU that "plague" it, neither of which > has anything to do with bitness. or are you actually talking about > instruction encoding? the limited number of registers (3 bits allocated, IIRC) which limits the number to 8 minus CS,DS,IP; meaning only 5 GPRs, the requirement of an (antiquated) BIOS (design), 16-bit bootstrap > >> This can include architectures like the IA64 & the upcoming x86-64. Just >> looking for something with lots of GPR's, sane MM support, etc. > If not lots of GPRs, but at least enough to be able to allocate sanely. > > alpha? mips? Yes, I just didn't feel like listing all arch's. Plus, (ducks) the MIPS is no longer supported by Windoze, and I rarely see any discussion on lk about this arch, and I forgot about Alpha for a minute. I admit that I likely look like an idiot right now, and I am not intending to insult anyone, just curious about this. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Sane Architectures
Mark Hahn wrote: Are there any architectures that are simple (sane) to implement sftw on? sftw? software? yes: portable C/C++ is a fine platform. Not really the platform, but the architecture, from a C/C++ compiler and kernel/asm/lowlevel lang development standpoint The i386 is plagued by it's 16-bit (arguably its 8 or even 4 bit) past. I wonder what you mean by that. it's ia32's accumulator-based architecture, and stack-based FPU that "plague" it, neither of which has anything to do with bitness. or are you actually talking about instruction encoding? the limited number of registers (3 bits allocated, IIRC) which limits the number to 8 minus CS,DS,IP; meaning only 5 GPRs, the requirement of an (antiquated) BIOS (design), 16-bit bootstrap This can include architectures like the IA64 the upcoming x86-64. Just looking for something with lots of GPR's, sane MM support, etc. If not lots of GPRs, but at least enough to be able to allocate sanely. alpha? mips? Yes, I just didn't feel like listing all arch's. Plus, (ducks) the MIPS is no longer supported by Windoze, and I rarely see any discussion on lk about this arch, and I forgot about Alpha for a minute. I admit that I likely look like an idiot right now, and I am not intending to insult anyone, just curious about this. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [OT] Sane Architectures
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:07:56PM -0500, Adam Schrotenboer wrote: alpha? mips? Yes, I just didn't feel like listing all arch's. Plus, (ducks) the MIPS is no longer supported by Windoze, and I rarely see any discussion on lk about this arch, and I forgot about Alpha for a minute. Mostly because there is an entirely seperate mailing list for MIPS issues. You'll find a quite active list that is so prestegiousg there are guys that work the MIPS Technologies (The MIPS people :-) ) on it. You might even want to check in on it. The MIPS arch is actually quite nice. It has generally good FP performance, a large pool of general use registers, and many other really convenient attributes. You can join the list by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe linux-mips [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the body. Matthew Fredrickson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
