Re: [PATCH] Add renameat2 function [BZ #17662]

2018-07-02 Thread Florian Weimer

On 07/02/2018 10:46 AM, Yury Norov wrote:


Is my understanding correct that glibc community finds 
inappropriate for their use, and prefer to re-introduce (duplicate)
its functionality locally? I think it's wrong. The right way to go
is to make kernel headers comfortable for users instead of ignoring
it.


In some cases, we already use UAPI headers ( is an 
example), but it is not always possible.



Are you OK to switch to kernel RENAME_* definitions if they will be
located in separated small file? Like in the patch below.

Signed-off-by: Yury Norov 
---
  include/uapi/linux/fs.h |  4 +---
  include/uapi/linux/rename.h | 12 
  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/rename.h

diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
index c27576d471c2..46c03ea31a76 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
@@ -44,9 +44,7 @@
  #define SEEK_HOLE 4   /* seek to the next hole */
  #define SEEK_MAX  SEEK_HOLE
  
-#define RENAME_NOREPLACE	(1 << 0)	/* Don't overwrite target */

-#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)  /* Exchange source and dest */
-#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)  /* Whiteout source */
+#include 
  
  struct file_clone_range {

__s64 src_fd;
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/rename.h b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
new file mode 100644
index ..7178f0565657
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
+#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+#define _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+
+/*
+ * Definitions for rename syscall family.
+ */
+#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)  /* Don't overwrite target */
+#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)  /* Exchange source and dest */
+#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)  /* Whiteout source */
+
+#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H */


This would help.

We would need to provide definitions for compatibility with older kernel 
headers locally, but on newer kernels, we could use the UAPI header file.


Thanks,
Florian


Re: [PATCH] Add renameat2 function [BZ #17662]

2018-07-02 Thread Florian Weimer

On 07/02/2018 10:46 AM, Yury Norov wrote:


Is my understanding correct that glibc community finds 
inappropriate for their use, and prefer to re-introduce (duplicate)
its functionality locally? I think it's wrong. The right way to go
is to make kernel headers comfortable for users instead of ignoring
it.


In some cases, we already use UAPI headers ( is an 
example), but it is not always possible.



Are you OK to switch to kernel RENAME_* definitions if they will be
located in separated small file? Like in the patch below.

Signed-off-by: Yury Norov 
---
  include/uapi/linux/fs.h |  4 +---
  include/uapi/linux/rename.h | 12 
  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/rename.h

diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
index c27576d471c2..46c03ea31a76 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
@@ -44,9 +44,7 @@
  #define SEEK_HOLE 4   /* seek to the next hole */
  #define SEEK_MAX  SEEK_HOLE
  
-#define RENAME_NOREPLACE	(1 << 0)	/* Don't overwrite target */

-#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)  /* Exchange source and dest */
-#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)  /* Whiteout source */
+#include 
  
  struct file_clone_range {

__s64 src_fd;
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/rename.h b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
new file mode 100644
index ..7178f0565657
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
+#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+#define _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+
+/*
+ * Definitions for rename syscall family.
+ */
+#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)  /* Don't overwrite target */
+#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)  /* Exchange source and dest */
+#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)  /* Whiteout source */
+
+#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H */


This would help.

We would need to provide definitions for compatibility with older kernel 
headers locally, but on newer kernels, we could use the UAPI header file.


Thanks,
Florian


Re: [PATCH] Add renameat2 function [BZ #17662]

2018-07-02 Thread Yury Norov
+ Alexander Viro , kernel maillists. 

On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 08:48:36AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/01/2018 11:49 PM, Yury Norov wrote:
> 
> > > +#ifdef __USE_GNU
> > > +/* Flags for renameat.  */
> > 
> > Flags for renameat2, right?
> 
> Thanks, fixed.
> 
> > > +# define RENAME_NOREPLACE (1 << 0)
> > > +# define RENAME_EXCHANGE (1 << 1)
> > > +# define RENAME_WHITEOUT (1 << 2)
> > 
> > I really don't understand how it works. Could you / somebody explain me?
> > 
> > include/uapi/linux/fs.h in kernel sources already defines this flags,
> > and this file is usually available in Linux distribution. So I don't
> > understand what for it is duplicated here. If you keep in mind
> > old linux headers or non-linux systems, I think it should be protected
> > with #ifndef guards.
> 
>  undefines and defines macros not mentioned in the standards
> (and it even contains a few unrelated structs), so we cannot include it
> without _GNU_SOURCE.
> 
> It might be possible to include it only for _GNU_SOURCE, but there are a
> lot of things in , so that does not seem to be particularly
> advisable.
> 
> We still support building glibc with 3.2 kernel headers, and if the
> definitions you quoted above are not available, building the test case
> would fail.

Is my understanding correct that glibc community finds 
inappropriate for their use, and prefer to re-introduce (duplicate)
its functionality locally? I think it's wrong. The right way to go
is to make kernel headers comfortable for users instead of ignoring
it.

Are you OK to switch to kernel RENAME_* definitions if they will be
located in separated small file? Like in the patch below.

Signed-off-by: Yury Norov 
---
 include/uapi/linux/fs.h |  4 +---
 include/uapi/linux/rename.h | 12 
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/rename.h

diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
index c27576d471c2..46c03ea31a76 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
@@ -44,9 +44,7 @@
 #define SEEK_HOLE  4   /* seek to the next hole */
 #define SEEK_MAX   SEEK_HOLE
 
-#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)/* Don't overwrite target */
-#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)/* Exchange source and 
dest */
-#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)/* Whiteout source */
+#include 
 
 struct file_clone_range {
__s64 src_fd;
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/rename.h b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
new file mode 100644
index ..7178f0565657
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
+#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+#define _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+
+/*
+ * Definitions for rename syscall family.
+ */
+#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)/* Don't overwrite target */
+#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)/* Exchange source and 
dest */
+#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)/* Whiteout source */
+
+#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H */
-- 
2.17.1



Re: [PATCH] Add renameat2 function [BZ #17662]

2018-07-02 Thread Yury Norov
+ Alexander Viro , kernel maillists. 

On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 08:48:36AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/01/2018 11:49 PM, Yury Norov wrote:
> 
> > > +#ifdef __USE_GNU
> > > +/* Flags for renameat.  */
> > 
> > Flags for renameat2, right?
> 
> Thanks, fixed.
> 
> > > +# define RENAME_NOREPLACE (1 << 0)
> > > +# define RENAME_EXCHANGE (1 << 1)
> > > +# define RENAME_WHITEOUT (1 << 2)
> > 
> > I really don't understand how it works. Could you / somebody explain me?
> > 
> > include/uapi/linux/fs.h in kernel sources already defines this flags,
> > and this file is usually available in Linux distribution. So I don't
> > understand what for it is duplicated here. If you keep in mind
> > old linux headers or non-linux systems, I think it should be protected
> > with #ifndef guards.
> 
>  undefines and defines macros not mentioned in the standards
> (and it even contains a few unrelated structs), so we cannot include it
> without _GNU_SOURCE.
> 
> It might be possible to include it only for _GNU_SOURCE, but there are a
> lot of things in , so that does not seem to be particularly
> advisable.
> 
> We still support building glibc with 3.2 kernel headers, and if the
> definitions you quoted above are not available, building the test case
> would fail.

Is my understanding correct that glibc community finds 
inappropriate for their use, and prefer to re-introduce (duplicate)
its functionality locally? I think it's wrong. The right way to go
is to make kernel headers comfortable for users instead of ignoring
it.

Are you OK to switch to kernel RENAME_* definitions if they will be
located in separated small file? Like in the patch below.

Signed-off-by: Yury Norov 
---
 include/uapi/linux/fs.h |  4 +---
 include/uapi/linux/rename.h | 12 
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/rename.h

diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
index c27576d471c2..46c03ea31a76 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/fs.h
@@ -44,9 +44,7 @@
 #define SEEK_HOLE  4   /* seek to the next hole */
 #define SEEK_MAX   SEEK_HOLE
 
-#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)/* Don't overwrite target */
-#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)/* Exchange source and 
dest */
-#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)/* Whiteout source */
+#include 
 
 struct file_clone_range {
__s64 src_fd;
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/rename.h b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
new file mode 100644
index ..7178f0565657
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/rename.h
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
+#ifndef _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+#define _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H
+
+/*
+ * Definitions for rename syscall family.
+ */
+#define RENAME_NOREPLACE   (1 << 0)/* Don't overwrite target */
+#define RENAME_EXCHANGE(1 << 1)/* Exchange source and 
dest */
+#define RENAME_WHITEOUT(1 << 2)/* Whiteout source */
+
+#endif /* _UAPI_LINUX_RENAME_H */
-- 
2.17.1